openEHR Querying specifications

2008-06-10 Thread Tim Cook
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 11:36 +0930, Heath Frankel wrote: The v1draft convention is already deprecated. The BNF for AQL doesn't support it deliberately, to ensure only non-draft archetypes are used when committing/retrieving data. Heath The previously referred to AQL BNF carries this

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2008-06-05 Thread Ian McNicoll
Hi Gerard, I 'm afraid I agree with Tim on this one. The difference between 'breaking' Version changes and non-breaking Revisions is clearly documented in the specification. The reason for confusion and non-use within the NHS is simply that the current tools do not support Revisions. Now that the

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2008-06-05 Thread Peter Gummer
Heath Frankel wrote: [openEHR-EHR-COMPOSITION.encounter.v1*] (or perhaps more correctly [openEHR-EHR-COMPOSITION.encounter.v1.*], where the dot means any character not the version delimiter) and [openEHR-EHR-COMPOSITION.encounter.v\d+] are different. The first allows all revisions of .v1

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2008-06-05 Thread Heath Frankel
at openehr.org] On Behalf Of Peter Gummer Sent: Thursday, 5 June 2008 11:14 AM To: For openEHR technical discussions Subject: Re: openEHR Querying specifications Heath Frankel wrote: [openEHR-EHR-COMPOSITION.encounter.v1*] (or perhaps more correctly [openEHR-EHR-COMPOSITION.encounter.v1

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2008-06-05 Thread Mikael Nyström
-technical-bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of Rong Chen Sent: den 4 juni 2008 22:07 To: For openEHR technical discussions Subject: Re: openEHR Querying specifications On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Mikael Nystr?m mikny at imt.liu.se wrote: I disagree with Rong. If for example the change between

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2008-06-04 Thread Mikael Nyström
...@openehr.org [mailto:openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of Rong Chen Sent: den 3 juni 2008 22:54 To: For openEHR technical discussions Subject: Re: openEHR Querying specifications I suspect changes between version could potentially break the paths in WHERE clause. So maybe

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2008-06-04 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 11:26:08PM +0200, Mikael Nystr?m wrote: I therefore think that excluding the version information can result in a mess. It shouldn't, of course, be excluded by default but should be excludable on demand. By, say, allowing regex matching for path definitions. Karsten --

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2008-06-04 Thread Chunlan Ma
Hi Tim, -Original Message- From: openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org [mailto:openehr-technical- bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of Tim Cook Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 4:49 AM To: For openEHR technical discussions Subject: Re: openEHR Querying specifications Hi Tom

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2008-06-04 Thread Heath Frankel
To: For openEHR technical discussions Subject: Re: openEHR Querying specifications Fair point. Perhaps AQL should support ranges of version numbers to simplify the query as in many cases the query will not be affected by a structrural change to the archetype e.g. FROM EHR [ehr_id/value=$ehrUid

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2008-06-04 Thread Stef Verlinden
. /Micke From: openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org [mailto:openehr- technical-bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of Rong Chen Sent: den 3 juni 2008 22:54 To: For openEHR technical discussions Subject: Re: openEHR Querying specifications I suspect changes between version could

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2008-06-04 Thread Mikael Nyström
2008 08:58 To: For openEHR technical discussions Subject: Re: openEHR Querying specifications I'm not a technical person but to me it seems very cumbersome if such 'differences' could exist between 2 versions of the same archetypes. This would mean that for every query one has to go into detail

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2008-06-04 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 12:42:56AM +0200, Mikael Nystr?m wrote: It shouldn't, of course, be excluded by default but should be excludable on demand. By, say, allowing regex matching for path definitions. To be excludable on demand is probably a good solution, but I still think that there

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2008-06-04 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 09:09:56AM +0930, Heath Frankel wrote: Versions should be handled using the regular expression syntax of the archetype ID, as is done in ADL to represent slot constraints and action_arcehtype_id in ACTIVITY. E.g. [openEHR-EHR-COMPOSITION.encounter.v1*]

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2008-06-04 Thread Thomas Beale
Stef Verlinden wrote: I'm not a technical person but to me it seems very cumbersome if such 'differences' could exist between 2 versions of the same archetypes. This would mean that for every query one has to go into detail of every version of that AT which could mean al lot of work. To

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2008-06-04 Thread Stef Verlinden
Op 4-jun-2008, om 10:23 heeft Thomas Beale het volgende geschreven: I hope this clarifies things Absolutely, thanks. Stef -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:

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2008-06-04 Thread Gerard Freriks
Dear all, The text below by Thomas warrants a conclusion: - openEHR needs a (place in a) document that defines the correct wording and meaning of: version and revision. To my mind these words are to much similar and can generate confusions. Alternatives: Package (new Archetype that breaks the

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2008-06-04 Thread Rong Chen
*To:* For openEHR technical discussions *Subject:* Re: openEHR Querying specifications I suspect changes between version could potentially break the paths in WHERE clause. So maybe the version information isn't significant here since either the path works and the criteria are checked

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2008-06-04 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 21:56 +0200, Gerard Freriks wrote: Dear all, The text below by Thomas warrants a conclusion: - openEHR needs a (place in a) document that defines the correct wording and meaning of: version and revision. To my mind these words are to much similar and can

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2008-06-03 Thread Thomas Beale
As part of the ongoing specification work this year, we have started to build some resource pages for the various specifications. One of them concerns a querying solution for openEHR - see the wiki page at: http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/spec/openEHR+Query+Specifications I have uploaded

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2008-06-03 Thread Tim Cook
Hi Tom, On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 16:39 +0100, Thomas Beale wrote: I have uploaded the Ocean Informatics developed 'Archetype Query Language' (AQL) as a candidate solution for querying archetype-based data. As explained in the query specification home page, AQL can be treated as a starting

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2008-06-03 Thread Greg Caulton
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2008-06-03 Thread Ian McNicoll
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2008-06-03 Thread Rong Chen
caultonpos at gmail.com: -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:39:37 +0100 From: Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com Subject: openEHR Querying specifications To: Openehr-Technical openehr-technical at openehr.org Message-ID: 484565B9.6030805