Hi all,
Today I have run GUI Update Manager in oi_151a, and it has found 871
updated packages, 186.17 Mb in total. I wonder why this update was not
announced at OI website nor mailing list?
After installing the updates and rebooting into new BE, and after login,
all that appeared is black
Thanks. Now I see.
Successfully updated to oi_151a2, but only after switching off visual
effects. Cannot switch them back in oi_151a2 (white screen). On the plus
side, fonts are looking much sharper than in oi_151a (FreeType improved?).
- Dmitry.
On 14.02.2012 19:25, Jeppe Toustrup wrote:
I may be wrong, but have you tried issuing the su command without -
parameter?
IMHO su - and just su behave reversely different in Linux and OI.
Dmitry.
When system admin su to root and launch X 11 utilities (for exemple
system-config-printer)
or java application (for exemple OpenOffice
But making OI look well-polished with a fancy and easy to administer
web-admin GUI that would encourage the average-Joe to use it as a
home-NAS / virtual server is not a bad thing.
It is not have to be fancy, but GUI is absolutely necessary. Well, I am
an average-Joe in UNIX world
Secondly I find it incredibly hard to start developing things on the
operating system.
I may be irrelevant here, but there are rapid application development
tools in modern computing world. One of them could be packaged for
OpenIndiana. I am talking about Lazarus - a RAD environment for Free
Open Indiana wrote:
I guess i sparked this discussion about the GUI.
Thanks for that. I cannot ignore GUI discussion.
most people that call OI a stupid OS are the people that only use a
GUI to do things. ;-)
+1 :)))
1. Who wants to help develop OI?
I want. But unfortunately I do not
Open Indiana wrote:
It's not that OI doesn't have to have a GUI, it's only that not all
settings
have to be set OVER a GUI.
Of course it needs a decent GUI, but that doesn't imply that you can
change/alter anything without getting deeper and into the commandline.
Totally agreed. Though I
Michael Stapleton wrote:
The future of OI is on the server, and it should have a usable
GUIinterface.
But in my opinion, trying to support every Desktop application is a
bit futile.
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Hi all,
I have a quite old machine running OI: ASUS A7N8X-X motherboard, Athlon XP
1150Mhz CPU, 1GB RAM. Everything worked fine until the 151a6 update. Now
the boot process hangs (progress bar is moving, no HDD activity, nothing).
Previous 151a5
, Dmitry Kozhinov a écrit :
Thank you, Andrey, for pointing me into right direction.
Now I have figured out that it does not hang, but stops at console login
prompt. GUI not loads for some reason. Graphics card is ATI Radeon 9600.
How do I inspect a boot log (if any)?
Maybe the reason of the glitch
Great work, great intentions! Thank you!
On 10.09.2012 18:14, Martin Bochnig wrote:
p.s. I will not allow, that OI dies!
If nobody else wants to keep it alive, I will ensure ...
We here will keep OI alive, okay? ;-)
Cheers to all OI users,
Martin
What filesystem do you have at the USB drive? Is it supported by OI?
XP may see NTFS filesystem, which is not readable by OI.
XP sees it and VBox also sees it but OI doesn't.
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Hi Milan,
What I need
it is described here:
https://www.illumos.org/issues/3150#note-5
https://www.illumos.org/issues/3150#note-9
I need to collect data to see if all cases are same.
$ svcs -xv svc:/system/hal:default
svc:/system/hal:default (Hardware Abstraction Layer daemon)
State:
am trying to find for investigation asap.
Best regards,
Milan
On 17.09.2012 13:13, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote:
Hi Milan,
What I need
it is described here:
https://www.illumos.org/issues/3150#note-5
https://www.illumos.org/issues/3150#note-9
I need to collect data to see if all cases are same
Thanks everyone involved in the investigation/fixing.
151a7 works fine. I am a happy user again :)
I can reproduce it on my system now in 32-bit mode only. I
am trying to find for investigation asap.
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Why Firefox 13?
Firefox 16.0.1 is available at
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/16.0.1/contrib/
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Hi all,
I am still newbie to UNIX administration. Please advise. After setting
up a storage server (a number of smb shares, as described at
http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Using+OpenIndiana+as+a+storage+server), I
ended up having a number of users at my system, each one needed only to
access
I have already tried setting a shell to /bin/false. This may prevent
remote logins or local text logins (I have not tested though), but local
graphic login went without problems.
On 29.10.2012 21:24, Jan Owoc wrote:
Hi Dmitry,
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Dmitry Kozhinov d
Thank you for the suggestion.
I have not tried this yet, but I have tried to make user a role, which
effectively disables login. Don't know whether smb share is still
working in this scenario. Actually I am not able to connect to smb share
from Windows machine in *any* case :(
The
I do not feel similarly :)
if it didn't feature a GUI we wouldn't notice or care.
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Yet I remember OpenWindows... Quite distinctive.
WindowMaker sounds good. Used it for a while a few years ago. Been thinking
about looking at it again. :)
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17.0 crashes all the time :(
Windows version works fine.
What about Preferences dialogue in 16.x - never tried. Worked without
problems under OI.
please tell me if 17 works for you.
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Please don't get me wrong, I am using OI in production environment, and
very interested in its further successful development. But isn't the
last conversation about OI future looked like this (sorry for exaggeration):
Q: Who is leading OI development?
A: We don't need a leader.
Q: Who is
Very well said. Agreed 100%.
I wish I could contribute to these tasks, but I am a Windows developer,
and humble OI user.
Obviously, we all need to sit down and start to lead, sponsor, develop, and
make the site working.
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It's time to invent a mirrored ZFS-based flash drive...
Newest drive I have.
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Wow, cool. I thought this area has stalled in OI. Thank you for your
efforts.
I spend my spare time on JDS/Gnome for now (nearly completed task).
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How much are you willing to pay for this service?
Correct me if I am wrong, but roadmap and paid services are
different things.
The fact that OI is an open source and community driven project does not
mean a no roadmap strategy.
- Dmitry.
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If you want security updates, there's no reason why some of you can't
get together and start your own business offering these updates for a
fee. OI is open source. You wouldn't necessarily have to start your
own distribution, although you could do that, too. But the code base
is out there.
Thank you for the replies. I need Dovecot only to provide an
authentication mechanism for Postfix. So all that I wanted to do:
- Install Dovecot;
- Run Dovecot service;
- Tweak Dovecot configuration so that Postfix can use authentication.
I have run GUI Package Manager (I am a newcomer from
Thanks to advices from Rob McMahon:
svcs -l dovecot
Showed where the log file is, and log file indicated that
/etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf was initially missing;
svcadm clear dovecot
Resolved the issue when the dovecot.conf was in place.
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Isn't DilOS itself Illumos-based?
all subsequent monthly releases of OpenSXCE will no
longer be based on Illumos.*NON*-org, but on
Igor Kozhukhov's great DilOS.org OS/Net work.
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In OI 151 the DMZ-White mouse pointer is selected by default in Nimbus
theme, but looks like the corresponding file is absent - black default
pointer is actually used. Should I report a bug at bugs.openindiana.org?
BTW the
OI 151 Text installer does not calculate local time based on selected
time zone (GUI installer does).
I think that I will report a bug.
- Dmitry.
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Now I have discovered that mouse pointers in OI 151 are refusing to
customize at all...
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Helios would be nice, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeliOS .
OpenIndiana name already got some recognition, I see no point of
changing it.
What *is* necessary for branding IMO: a good logo and GNOME theme.
Dmitry.
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As long as the reaction people get when installing and using it is
not OY!
Yes :)))
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The main difference is (in)ability to use large amount of RAM.
32-bit systems use 32-bit pointers, and maximum value of unsigned 32-bit
integer is 2^32,
or 4Gb. In practice many 32-bit OSes are able to address only 2Gb of RAM.
64-bit pointers can address much more RAM (no hardware has reached
So I guess it would be fair to say that the best OS is the one that
support both at the same time
Yes, and that's OSol and OI do.
On 24.06.2011 22:17, Michael Stapleton wrote:
So I guess it would be fair to say that the best OS is the one that
support both at the same time, and leaves the
doesn't pull let them manage their own time better?
Yes. This is why my vote is for forum, not mailing list.
Dmitry.
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Congratulations on the new release! I think someone should update
openindiana.org front page now.
As always, thank you all who contributed.
Dmitry.
Wot, no-one's mentioned this yet?
http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/oi_151a_prestable8+Release+Notes
--
Dave Koelmeyer
Sad to hear. OpenIndiana becomes a niche OS rather than all-purpose
superior alternative to Linux.
GUI in a modern world is a must-have.
Why Android and iOS dominate the mobile world? They are easy to use and
multipurpose - thanks to GUI. Why Nokia lost its mobile devices
business? They failed
151a9 update went without problems, but the updated version goes into
reboot loop immediately after SunOS... initial boot message. The
machine is Athlon XP (32bit).
In verbose mode a number of messages appear, something like
x86feature=something and the last message shows amount of RAM
Not to blame anyone, but IMO every next OI release becomes less stable
than previous...
The latest release which works stable for me is 151a7. 151a8 also
worked, though I could not configure network interface using GUI tool in
it (after disabling nwam and enabling default).
Then 151a9 was
Seems like there is something with GNOME config files in user home
folder, indeed.
After touching GNOME so that it saves some config, the problem disappeared.
(I have removed the Volume applet from the upper toolbar in production
server, and after that upgrade went without problems; Seems like
As far as I know, the 151a9 release has no ISO. It only may be upgraded
from earlier release.
Marc Lobelle wrote:
I see that a new version 0I-151a9 is available, but the version to
download athttp://openindiana.org/download/ is still 151a8. Where can I
find the ISO for 151a9 ?
BE, and
then you booted to OI151a9.
Whereupon everything worked perfectly after logging in under OI151a9???
On 2014-02-20 19:32, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote:
/ Seems like there is something with GNOME config files in user home
// folder, indeed.
// After touching GNOME so that it saves some config
Hi Milan,
Is this considered a next release preview?
pkg set-publisher-ghttp://pkg.opensolaris.cz:1/
--search-before=openindiana.org jds.openindiana.org
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I have exactly the same question.
OI allows me to select maximum resolution of 1024x768 only.
LCD monitor has slightly better resolution (1152x1024?). The monitor has
a VGA connector, and videocard has a DVI. I believe that my videocard is
capable of supporting much higher resolutions than
Sorry if my question was misleading. The original post by Harry Putnam
was regarding a vbox vm. My question though is about bare metal server.
But the question is the same: How to get higher screen resolution? OI
limits me to 1024x768 for some reason, while nVidia card can give more.
Does anybody know where to find Firefox 30 for OpenIndiana?
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That links to v24.6.0, not v30.
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-esr/contrib/
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In weeks and months and YEARS nobody ever came who bought it from me.
That is, you blame evil users in your commercial fail. They all
conspired. Maybe in reality there is no demand for your product?
Give me everything you got
paid for your job from 2006 till 2014. NOW!
What is this? A
Thanks, Jon!
This makes me really happy with OI.
Actually this small advancement in OI /dev a9 makes me happier than all
great advancements in /hipster.
Regards,
Dmitry.
Jon Tibble has just pushed updated bash package with recent security
fixes to OI /dev a9.
Hello,
I am using OI 151a9 with some server packages installed (some of them
from opencsw.org), but I have no idea which libraries they depend on, or
which compiler was used to compile the packages or required libraries.
Just hope that OI will remain compatible/usable in the future.
F...ck! They censored out the industry leading site! What next?
Is SFE hosted on GitHub? I thought it resides on openindiana.org .
WTF, github is blocked by russian ISPs. Fuck them all and
especially Roskomnadzor. I need SFE at least for tor :)
noone interested in *making* stable OI release.
- admits OI developer. Oracle rubs his hands with a satisfied grin.
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We have no power to create stable distribution, either based on /dev
or /hipster. Period.
I hate to give an advice without contributing into development, but here
it is.
IMHO the all-in-one product is too complicated. The best approach would
be starting over from scratch (bare Illumos) and
It's not relevant because one can not compare open source and free
software with proprietary one.
Those are just 2 different worlds that live side by side. Surely in big
picture open source is always winning. Not to mention you can also help
to projects you want.
And with closed source user can
I believe you've just described Tribblix
Thank you, maybe I need to look closer at Tribblix, indeed.
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For example i'm not using GUI but i have some difficulties with
administering from command lines (very hard to configure vlan, network
interfaces and so on).
Look, even experienced UNIX admin has difficulties with command line
(not to offend anyone).
Force me to edit config files with vi
Let me again cite Alexander Pyhalov, one of the leading OI developers
currently (as far I know), and please think what should we do instead of
starting discussions like [open source vs closed source], [GUI vs no
GUI], and [can non-contributing forum member say anything vs cannot]:
noone
gui uses more resources than server have to
Server admin should use less human resources, not a machine.
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I am not confusing these terms. This thread has began from a proposal to
implement a forum instead of, or in addition to current mailing list.
There were opinions then that the current system is not broken (that is,
already working as a forum). I was advocating the idea of creating real
forum,
My point was to *not* use email client in order to participate in
discussions.
Thank you for the explanation on how to use a email client. Actually I
am the author of one, made in year 2000 (15 years ago) - see
desktopfay.com .
Regards,
Dmitry.
That is because you confuse ... and using of
Privacy is keyword here. I consider constant delivery of discussion to
my email as intrusion.
I think it breaks down mostly between people that know how to use mail
client, valuing their privacy
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The next room is still invaded.
Dmitry Kozhinov wrote:
/ Privacy is keyword here. I consider constant delivery of discussion to
// my email as intrusion.
/
That's what auto-foldering is for - have your mail client automatically
move it to an openindiana folder so you don't see it until you
Yes, thumbs up :)
Oh, I went into the discussion knowing there would never be a forum. It
doesn't fit with the character and target audience of this project, which
is firmly rooted in old UNIX traditions. If it were still possible to use
UUCP bang paths, this list would do it. ;) I just found
The current forum spreads out its presence to my email inbox, instead
of staying at openindiana.org site. This is undesirable (at least for
me), and forces me to subscribe every time when I want to contribute to
the forum, and unsubscribe immediately after that. Just want to keep my
email and
As far as I know, Postfix resides in SFE repository. Before installing
Postfix, add SFE repository (if not have added yet):
pkg set-publisher -p http://pkg.openindiana.org/sfe
how can I get postfix on an
OpenIndiana system? Here are the relevant facts:
/home/jay # svcs -a | grep smtp
Hi all,
The discussion here is lately focused on how do I build package A and
how do I build package B. Firefox is a good example. I will say
Firefox in this message, but this may be applied to other packages as
well.
Isn't it supposed that Firefox should be built by Firefox *developers*,
Thank you all who made this possible. I am starting to like the Hipster
branch (for the first time). I even think that next time when I will
need to setup OpenIndiana on a production server, I will choose Hipster.
torrents for new hipster ISO images are published
Congratulations on the redesigned website!
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Alexander, and Predrag,
Thank you for the information. Currently I am using OI 151a9 for a
web/ftp/mail server exposed to Internet. I am satisfied with the
stability but concerned that this branch is not supported. I will
consider hipster next time when I need to setup a server (it may be an
Thank you for the detailed response. I understand that there is a lot of
work to do. But the work should have a goal. "we try to ride the car and
tune it simultaneously" - doesn't that mean that OI will never be ready
for production use?
As for what do I want to know... A simpler question:
Alexander Pyhalov, Thu Dec 3 12:39:35 UTC 2015:
> As for /dev, I think it's not a big secret that it's efficiently dead.
Nikola M, Thu Dec 3 18:46:38 UTC 2015:
> It is not big secret that hipster is never planned for any kind of
production
What is the plan then?
"break everything"
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I don't Use iPhone, I use Openindiana.
The website is not made for you, it's made for visitors. Can you please
take a look at openindiana.org website stats and tell us what OS/device
visitors use most?
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About 8% of visits are from mobile devices.
For instance 7% come from 'SunOS'.
Thank you for the information.
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You need to consider chassis selection with respect to heat generation /
dissipation
Indeed. Two Xeons would consume 2x120W, which means heat and fan noise.
I would choose single-processor Core i7 (2.8 GHz, just 35W) fanless
chassis design, like this: https://www.quietpc.com/sys-a470s
The most interesting thing in
http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/servers/sparc/oracle-sparc/sparc-roadmap-slide-2076743.pdf
for me is "Software in Silicon". I may be wrong, but I'm under
impression that Oracle integrates parts of Solaris into hardware.
How about LLVM/Clang? I understand that building OI with it sounds
unrealistic, but maybe someone doing some research in this direction?
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Hi all,
Wanted to install latest updates and test Mate again, but "pkg update"
failed (error messages below). This is just a test install in a Virtual
Box, so no repair is needed for my installation. Here are error messages
for the case if I am not alone and something is wrong with the latest
The issue has been discussed on the ML and the tracker last week, you
can find the steps here:
https://www.illumos.org/issues/7320#change-17545
and Alexander has posted in the news today:
https://www.openindiana.org/2016/08/29/possible-ssh-update-issue/
Best regards
Aurelien
Thank you,
it looks faster and better utilizes graphic card/monitor
I have installed OI Mate experimental under Virtual Box, and my
impressions were just the opposite. It feels sluggish compared to Gnome.
Not tested on bare metal though.
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I am so far from knowledgable about the differences between the
various Solaris branches is the only reason for asking this question.
I'd like to hear a bit about the pro's of hipster as compared to
Solaris 11.3. Maybe a few pointer showing where the real differences
are and what they mean.
If anybody interested, I have found that in FreeType (including the
latest v2.7), sub-pixel font smoothing is turned off by default - due to
possible patent issues - see https://www.freetype.org/patents.html -
scroll down to the last section of this page, and see:
"... By default, FreeType's
freetype bump to 2.7 has been merged
Wow, cool! Will update now. LOL about bad news :)
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Hi all,
I have noticed that in my Virtualbox Hipster installation fonts are
smoothed using grayscale technique, despite the fact that I have
selected "Subpixel smoothing (LCDs)". Has anyone experiencing the same
problem? Is it a bug or maybe depends on videodriver or something?
And one more
How Firefoxon FreeBSD plays videos is a mystery... On smartphones,it uses
HTML5. The following leads to a video
https://www.facebook.com/diamandino/videos/p.1360179687354673/1360179687354673/?type=2
If you replace www with m, you will be able to watch the video.
I have no problems playing
is loaded
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I do know what the `N' and `R' mean and so not to delete them
As far as I know, 'N' is BE which in loaded right Now, and 'R' is BE
which will be loaded on next Reboot.
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Every day I look at:
https://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Recent+Wiki+Changes
The last entry was from 31 July. Did nothing happen in August?
Every day I look at https://openindiana.org/pipermail/openindiana-announce/
The last entry was from October 2011. Did nothing happen in the last 6
Hello Stephan,
Recently i got the opinion to change from ubuntu to something "better"
May I recommend Linux Mint. It's based on Ubuntu, but UI is completely
different. Everything (?) works out of the box. https://linuxmint.com/ .
Why Ubuntu-based systems are particularly interesting - they
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