Re: [osol-discuss] New community proposal: Approachability

2005-08-03 Thread Al Hopper
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Stephen Hahn wrote: This message proposes the creation of an Approachability community for OpenSolaris. Please discuss. +1 But you would probably need a definition of what is the difference between: 1) RFE 2) something does not behave as expected, but does behave

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: netnews access (was Solaris vs. Linux)

2005-08-03 Thread Glynn Foster
Heya, It didn't take long for Novell to realize the Achilles heel of its Linux program. Before doing/planning anything extravagant, perhaps someone responsible for maintaining this forum could absorb the pride take a look at what the Fedora Core community is doing. That's pretty much what

[osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris distributions and package managment

2005-08-03 Thread TJ Yang
Eric Boutilier writes: snip * deb * pkgsrc (implemented by pkgsrc system) * portage * rpm (implemented by the openpkg system) * solaris packaging (implemented by Sun, Blastwave, and Sunfreeware) * tww (implemented by tww system) Hi Eric If you don't mind, I like

[osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris distributions and package managment

2005-08-03 Thread TJ Yang
`pkg-get` is not an LPMS as you'd call it, it's a script that adds `apt-get` like functionality and uses Sun's native SVR4 software management subsystem. If this is the case then pkg-get is a Hyper PMS only support Solaris OS. Sorry, I did not research pkg-get's architecture. tj This message

Re: [osol-discuss] New community proposal: Approachability

2005-08-03 Thread Dave Miner
Tao Chen wrote: ... According to this Sun doc: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-5504/6mkv4nh2f?a=view To install DHCP clients from the network, you must create Vendor category options to pass information that is needed to install the Solaris OS. Table 4–4

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris distributions and package managment

2005-08-03 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Markus Gyger) wrote: For completeness, there is also IEEE Std 1387.2-1995/ISO/IEC 15068-2:1999. It's used by HP OpenView (e.g. SD-Solaris) and by HP-UX 10 and later. There exist 2000+ packages in this format for HP-UX alone. See e.g. http://hpux.connect.org.uk

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: developing free software for OpenSolaris

2005-08-03 Thread Joerg Schilling
James Lick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: W. Wayne Liauh wrote: This is a test to see whether the OpenSolaris Forum will show Chinese characters: 漢� The forum software replaced what you wrote with ??, but in the mailing list it comes out correctly as the traditional characters han

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: netnews access (was Solaris vs. Linux)

2005-08-03 Thread Derek Cicero
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: I was always wondering if some high school kids can run an NG/web combo based discussion forum so well for Linux, why the grownups en/women at Sun couldn't for Solaris/OpenSolaris? Yesterday, eWeek reported that Novell will be launching a community-based Linux

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: netnews access (was Solaris vs. Linux)

2005-08-03 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Really? I'd hate to see what the disrepesctful version looked like. Really? It pains me greatly to have to post a moronic comment like I just did (with the typos, etc.) Disrespect is a subjective term. I don't know who you are, how can I have any disrespectful intent? An example of

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: netnews access

2005-08-03 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
You knew who you were targeting - the engineers at Sun (i.e. Derek) responsible for the creation and maintenance of the forums on the OpenSolaris website. And then you proceeded to (rather arrogantly) point out how he, one of the grownups at Sun could be outdone by some high school kids. How you

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Are you ready for VPN on the OS? vpnc and patch for OS people.

2005-08-03 Thread Magnus Forsberg
Hi swalker, It should be possible to combine OpenPKG with apt-get (apt4rpm) as well. Are you using apt4rpm with Solaris 10 and OpenPKG? Having some trouble getting it compiled. Are there any other alternatives? This message posted from opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris distributions and package managment

2005-08-03 Thread Ferdinand O. Tempel
I thought we are still in hope that the SVr4 pkg system will become OpenSource soon. Lets start working on solutions anyway. Just in case you run out of breath while you hold it while waiting for Sun to release. Why rely on kindness on the long term when a solution on the short term is needed?

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: New community proposal: Approachability

2005-08-03 Thread Derek Cicero
Tao Chen wrote: Ouch, I am looking at this thread from the web, the format totally screws up: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=1509 Ok, I looked into this and the issue stems from the database test we ran yesterday for the UTF-8 charter conversion. When the test database

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Packaging and Building applications, standards for OpenSolaris

2005-08-03 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Magnus Forsberg wrote: [ ... ] I see there is already a disussion about this in: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=953tstart=0 The most interesting part is to have a standard build system, not just a package system... I agree -- mostly because there

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: New community proposal: Approachability

2005-08-03 Thread Tao Chen
Thanks Derek. I was also wondering why my post appears to have extra line breaks (or extra large space between lines). I sent my post from gmail and everything looks fine in gmail. Not a big issue for me, just FYI. Thanks as always. Tao (this one posted using forum interface) This message

[osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris distributions and package managment

2005-08-03 Thread TJ Yang
I thought we are still in hope that the SVr4 pkg system will become OpenSource soon. Lets start working on solutions anyway. Just in case you run out of breath while you hold it while waiting for Sun to release. Why rely on kindness on the long term when a solution on the short term is

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: netnews access

2005-08-03 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
My unfortunate totally uncalled-for burst was provoked by an errorneous but nevertheless inexecusable belielf that I was responding to a comment from Eric Boutilier. Sun would have really be doomed if some icon like Boutlier could have done something like that. My mistake I apologize. This

[osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris distributions and package managment

2005-08-03 Thread Ferdinand O. Tempel
Just like most meta packaging systems this looks like a major headache for anything else but software which has no real dependencies outside what itself provides. The example you give, Oracle, IBM products, etc, are relatively easy to install when compared to more basic stuff like, oh, KDE for

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris distributions and package managment

2005-08-03 Thread Shawn Walker
On 8/3/05, Ferdinand O. Tempel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have a solution for the dilemma this community seems to be in. If it were my call, I'd pick the packaging system which is very well documented, performs well and has a lot of packages for it already. From where I'm sitting that

[osol-discuss] PAM libraries missing in Solaris Express 19 Build

2005-08-03 Thread Suresh
Hi, I recently downloaded and installed the Solaris Express 19 Build for Sparc. I am using V120. I have setup a solaris 8 as a jumpstart server and installed Solaris Express. After the installation of the first CD I'm not able login. I always get the following error [i]sj-corey21-app console

[osol-discuss] Re: Packaging and Building applications, standards for OpenSolaris

2005-08-03 Thread TJ Yang
Hi all, At the moment I'm looking for a Sun-way of building Solaris packages (Like SUNW), with a proper build environment, but unfortunately there are too many ways. I already have my own customized environment, Sun-way is SVR4 pkgadd PMS, period. I don't work for Sun and I like to be

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Packaging and Building applications,

2005-08-03 Thread TJ Yang
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Magnus Forsberg wrote: [ ... ] I see there is already a disussion about this in: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=9 53tstart=0 The most interesting part is to have a standard build system, not just a package system... I agree -- mostly

[osol-discuss] Re: iSCSI Target implementation?

2005-08-03 Thread Chao-Feng Guo
Yep. After rolling out the iSCSI initiator on Solaris, the team are working on the iSCSI target mode implementation. But I am not sure about the specific iSCSI opensoalris roadmap, both the initiator and target. For the iSCSI status on (Open)Solaris, please check out some blogs like: