[osol-discuss] Project proposal: Input Method Project

2007-03-29 Thread Yong Sun
I'd like to propose a project about Input Method for OpenSolaris. The scope of this project would be: 1. To support IIIMF (which is currently the defualt IM framework on Solaris) on OpenSolaris, including building/packaging, bug fixing, and adding new features. 2. To support more input method f

[osol-discuss] Re: time keeping

2007-03-29 Thread Brad Knowles
Hmm, haven't seen anything more recent on this thread, but I did want to point out that synchronizing to less than 1ms is pretty tough. Lots of hardware just isn't up to that task. And the more you ask the hardware to do, the lower the chances that it'll be able to keep the clocks this tightly

[osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: NTP

2007-03-29 Thread Brad Knowles
Brian -- what "bits to test" do you need? Is this anything that the NTP Public Services Project could help with? I know you've been active in the NTP community for a very long time (much longer than I have), and I know you've made a lot of contributions to the community over that time. Is thi

[osol-discuss] Re: Possible OSUG project: setting up NTP pool servers?

2007-03-29 Thread Brad Knowles
Oh, and you could also list some of your servers in the stratum 1 & stratum 2 lists in the "Servers" web at http://ntp.isc.org/bin/view/Servers/WebHome . This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discus

[osol-discuss] Re: Possible OSUG project: setting up NTP pool servers?

2007-03-29 Thread Brad Knowles
In areas where the pool doesn't have much coverage, more stratum 3 servers would be a big help. Stratum 1 or stratum 2 servers would be preferred, but stratum 3 is much better than none. So, please -- don't hold off on setting up a number of boxes and joining the pool, just because you don't h

Re: [osol-discuss] cpu error in Sunfire 15K

2007-03-29 Thread Rob Johnston
According to the AFSR (asynchronous fault status register) a single-bit error was discovered in the Ecache on one of your processors. The Ecache has ECC, so the system is able to automatically detect and correct single-bit errors. If this is the only instance of this type of error in your log

[osol-discuss] cpu error in Sunfire 15K

2007-03-29 Thread Satyanarayan Pati
Hi, I found the following error in my /var/adm/messages file. Mar 30 03:27:36 sr1-ebiz1 SUNW,UltraSPARC-III+: [ID 446889 kern.info] NOTICE: [AFT0] UCC Event detected by CPU288 in User mode at TL=0, errID 0x004deb48.6f54fc94 Mar 30 03:27:36 sr1-ebiz1 AFSR 0x0400.0008 AFAR 0x0140

Re: [osol-discuss] execve and dynamically allocated memory and handles

2007-03-29 Thread Amit Sharma - Sun Microsystems - Bangalore
Durga Deep Tirunagari wrote: Dear all, Here is a code snippet. scds_handle_t handle; if (scds_initialize(&scds_handle, argc, argv) != 0) { return (1); } pathname = malloc((size_t) (len * sizeof (char))); saved_errno = ENOENT;

Re: [osol-discuss] Reviewing projects, assigning mentors

2007-03-29 Thread Tom Haynes
Glynn Foster wrote: Hey, Tom Haynes wrote: One of the things throwing me is what do you (and the other emails before this) mean by join [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? Do you want us to send email to that address? Are we supposed to subscribe to the list? Yes, ideally. It'll be a forum that is us

Re: [osol-discuss] Reviewing projects, assigning mentors

2007-03-29 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, Tom Haynes wrote: > One of the things throwing me is what do you (and the other emails > before this) mean > by join [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? Do you want us to send email to > that address? > Are we supposed to subscribe to the list? Yes, ideally. It'll be a forum that is used for communication w

Re: [osol-discuss] xpg/bin/tr unexpect output on Sparc?

2007-03-29 Thread Scott Rotondo
Steven Xie wrote: echo EFG|/usr/xpg4/bin/tr '[EFG]' '[pBC]' Segmentation Fault (core dumped) echo EFG|/usr/xpg6/bin/tr '[EFG]' '[pBC]' Segmentation Fault (core dumped) echo EFG|/usr/bin/tr '[EFG]' '[pBC]' pBC hard to pick now. This is crazy. Has anybody filed a bug yet? Scott _

Re: [osol-discuss] Reviewing projects, assigning mentors

2007-03-29 Thread Tom Haynes
Glynn Foster wrote: Please, if you are interested in mentoring a student or reviewing proposals this summer, please join [EMAIL PROTECTED] or contact me directly. I'm not going to mail opensolaris-discuss about it again. Please also feel free to forward to interested sub-communities or colleague

[osol-discuss] Re: [summerofcode] Reviewing projects, assigning mentors

2007-03-29 Thread John Sonnenschein
Hey, Just to clarify One of those emancipation projects is mine, and if any of them are going to be accepted in a useful way, a mentor who isn't tainted by license issues needs to be found. So ideally, someone outside Sun, but practically, anyone who's not involved in ON should be fair game ( ask

[osol-discuss] execve and dynamically allocated memory and handles

2007-03-29 Thread Durga Deep Tirunagari
Dear all, Here is a code snippet. scds_handle_t handle; if (scds_initialize(&scds_handle, argc, argv) != 0) { return (1); } pathname = malloc((size_t) (len * sizeof (char))); saved_errno = ENOENT; (void) execve(path

[osol-discuss] Reviewing projects, assigning mentors

2007-03-29 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, Thanks to Rob, we're already starting the process of being able to rate the submitted student proposals. We have some pretty tight deadlines of deciding the best ones, and assigning mentors. We are still looking for mentors for these, particularly as point of contacts for various projects. W

Re: [osol-mktg] RE: [osol-discuss] Solaris on Intel's Classmate PC?

2007-03-29 Thread Shawn Walker
On 23/03/07, Kaiwai Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, You can run a text installer, which is similar to the old Windows NT/2000/XP setup proceedure; which isn't too bad. The bigger problem is how much of the hardware is proprietary and unsupported on either Linux or some other operating s

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: Solaris on Intel's Classmate PC?

2007-03-29 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Saturday 24 March 2007 03:30 am, a b wrote: > Don't even get me started on Java. Better yet, don't get yourself started on it. -- Alan DuBoff - Solaris x86 Engineering - IHV/OEM Group Advocate of insourcing at Sun - hire people that care about our company! _

Re: [osol-discuss] xpg/bin/tr unexpect output on Sparc?

2007-03-29 Thread Steven Xie
echo EFG|/usr/xpg4/bin/tr '[EFG]' '[pBC]' Segmentation Fault (core dumped) echo EFG|/usr/xpg6/bin/tr '[EFG]' '[pBC]' Segmentation Fault (core dumped) echo EFG|/usr/bin/tr '[EFG]' '[pBC]' pBC hard to pick now. Bart Smaalders wrote: I. Szczesniak wrote: /usr/bin/tr is one of the big problems

Re: [osol-discuss] xpg/bin/tr unexpect output on Sparc?

2007-03-29 Thread Steven Xie
Hi Casper, I did try it. It works perfect! Howerver, the issue is not about case convert. It's tr sending unexpected output. sometimes even core dumped. I 'm not sure SUN would take it as a bug or not. e.g echo EFG|/usr/xpg6/bin/tr '[EFG]' '[pBC]' Thanks, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAI

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-03-29 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
> "fat unstable GNOME" -- you realise that Sun chose > GNOME as the > desktop a long time ago for Solaris? I also think > that your > description of GNOME is rather unfair, and rather > inaccurate. Please tell that to those who have problems with software using gtk libraries among which is memory

Re: [osol-discuss] xpg/bin/tr unexpect output on Sparc?

2007-03-29 Thread Steven Xie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are unexpected outputs echo EFG|/usr/xpg6/bin/tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' FGH echo EFG|/usr/xpg4/bin/tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' FGH Th correct output echo EFG|/usr/bin/tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' efg I only see this issue on SPARC solaris. both 06/06 11/06. The x86 one seems to be

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-03-29 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
> > Please, no entrenched GNOME or gcc. > > What does that mean? It means please do not take it down the Nexenta road of using gcc built packages and fat unstable GNOME. It is a real pity that firefox and thunderbird use gtk. I am not saying everything gnome is bad but the underlying gtk stuff i

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: Solaris on Intel's Classmate PC?

2007-03-29 Thread a b
Because responsible folks don't listen to Moinak Ghosh's Belenix minimize_Grub_bootImage - approach? (plus because the previous reliable/fast/memory-saving "suninstall" installer had to be replaced by whatever thing that somehow needed to be java based [for whatever marketing reasons], not to

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: Solaris on Intel's Classmate PC?

2007-03-29 Thread a b
True. Slightly OT for this thread, But a good graphical installer increases the "coolness" factor :) and I believe is quite possible to implement in 256MB RAM. Of course it is possible. It can be done in a few KB. It's just that people have gotten to be brainwashed with all the bloatwa

Re: [osol-mktg] RE: [osol-discuss] Solaris on Intel's Classmate PC?

2007-03-29 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
Hi, You can run a text installer, which is similar to the old Windows NT/2000/XP setup proceedure; which isn't too bad. The bigger problem is how much of the hardware is proprietary and unsupported on either Linux or some other operating system - with that being said, I assume its got all the In

[osol-discuss] Re: [i18n-discuss] Re: Traditional Chinese locale bug

2007-03-29 Thread Ienup Sung
[ I changed Alan's email address and opensolaris-discuss to Bcc at this reply. Please check on or join i18n-discuss if you're interested in this discussion. ] Thanks, Alan, for bring this to i18n-discuss. Hello Wayne, Thanks for bring up on the "derogatory" language issue. Would you please

Re: [osol-discuss] which iso is for production server

2007-03-29 Thread Steve Pointer
The ISO you should use for your production environment should be the one that passed your testing in your staging environment ;) ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris and DRM?

2007-03-29 Thread Ian Collins
Darren J Moffat wrote: > Mike wrote: > >> Hey guys I'm seriously considering moving from Windows to >> OpenSolaris. With all the DRM problems including the software >> lockouts if it's determined your softare isn't legit including >> software that isn't related to Microsoft like Photoshop I've bee

[osol-discuss] Re: Using DTrace infos with JBoss

2007-03-29 Thread metan
Hye, back. 1. So if I want to save logs from DTrace scripts, it would be more simple to use JDtrace & Solaris express ? 2. What is used to save logs in JDTrace ? I saw these lines : [i]To log PrintaRecord, set this environment variable: JDTRACE_LOGGING_LEVEL=FINE To log ProbeDa

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Heads-up: ZFS Boot support for the x86 platform bld 62

2007-03-29 Thread Lori Alt
Jürgen Keil wrote: Excelent news!! I can now use ZFS to install Solaris? According to the announcement: no http://opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2007032801/ »The ability to use Solaris Install infrastructure to install a ZFS root filesystem will be availa

Re: [osol-discuss] xpg/bin/tr unexpect output on Sparc?

2007-03-29 Thread Bart Smaalders
I. Szczesniak wrote: /usr/bin/tr is one of the big problems in Solaris - the behaviour is nonstandard and Sun declared long ago that fixes to support multibyte locales are off limits because they would break backwards compatibility. So use the one in /usr/xpg4/bin. - Bart -- Bart Smaalders

[osol-discuss] Re: Heads-up: ZFS Boot support for the x86 platform bld 62

2007-03-29 Thread MC
"Good work" to the folks involved!! :) Now we can look forward to seeing the new installation environment ;) This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Mess

2007-03-29 Thread Stephen Lau
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: This is not straightly true. I have a starter kit from London Tech ay which has Solaris Express Community edition based on b56. I have a colleage with starter kit which has B57. As far as I can see he starter kit is continue to be updated with the latest which make s

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Mess

2007-03-29 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> This is not straightly true. I have a starter kit > from London Tech > ay which has Solaris Express Community edition based > on b56. > I have a colleage with starter kit which has B57. > As far as I can see > he starter kit is continue to be updated with the > latest which > make sense fro

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: joining Sun

2007-03-29 Thread MC
> Javier O. Augusto wrote: > > MC wrote: > >> [..] > >> Sometimes choice is bad. > >> > > erm, when? > > > When the number of choices is overwhelming and don't > differ > in user-discernible ways, the multitude of choices > becomes > an overwhelming barrier to entry/use. > > Just because it

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: joining Sun

2007-03-29 Thread Brandon Hume
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 15:36 -0300, Javier O. Augusto wrote: > MC wrote: > > Sometimes choice is bad. > erm, when? Well, to put it most simply: when the chooser doesn't take responsibility for the choices they make. Something most of us in the IT industry are familiar with, I'd think... especial

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: joining Sun

2007-03-29 Thread Calum Benson
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 13:14 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > (FWIW, personally, I consider GNOME to have very little in the way of > eye-candy... I still think it looks like something out of the mid-90's > most of the time!) (Just in case I offend any of our visual designers, I should point out that'

Re: [osol-discuss] What is Mercurial distributiveness for?

2007-03-29 Thread Darren J Moffat
Milan Cermak wrote: Hi all, being used to Subversion and CVS, I come over Mercurial. Looking at its ways of working, I can't understand what is the distributiveness for and why should I replicate whole repository with all its history just to change few files. So what is the benefit of having

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris and DRM?

2007-03-29 Thread Darren J Moffat
Mike wrote: Hey guys I'm seriously considering moving from Windows to OpenSolaris. With all the DRM problems including the software lockouts if it's determined your softare isn't legit including software that isn't related to Microsoft like Photoshop I've been hearing and how Microsoft is forc

[osol-discuss] What is Mercurial distributiveness for?

2007-03-29 Thread Milan Cermak
Hi all, being used to Subversion and CVS, I come over Mercurial. Looking at its ways of working, I can't understand what is the distributiveness for and why should I replicate whole repository with all its history just to change few files. So what is the benefit of having distributed repositor

[osol-discuss] Re: KDE and Solaris

2007-03-29 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Indeed. Although whether it's them being slow packaging, or the work to get KDE releases clean for Solaris having to be done after rather than during the development, fact is, they were behind last I looked. Now I personally wouldn't care to be a pest on that point, since likely nobody's being pa

[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris and DRM?

2007-03-29 Thread Mike
Hey guys I'm seriously considering moving from Windows to OpenSolaris. With all the DRM problems including the software lockouts if it's determined your softare isn't legit including software that isn't related to Microsoft like Photoshop I've been hearing and how Microsoft is forcing this on ev

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: joining Sun

2007-03-29 Thread Calum Benson
On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 21:22 -0700, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > So aside from more eye candy, I really don't see what either > KDE or GNOME do that CDE doesn't. Yeah, I know that GNOME is the > chosen direction, and maybe one or the other of the newer desktops > were needed to appeal to younger a

[osol-discuss] Re: KDE and Solaris

2007-03-29 Thread Andrew Pattison
If you're talking about Lastwave then they *do* produce binaries of KDE for Solaris - check out: http://www.blastwave.org/packages.php Cheers Andrew. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss

[osol-discuss] Re: Heads-up: ZFS Boot support for the x86 platform bld 62

2007-03-29 Thread Jürgen Keil
> Excelent news!! I can now use ZFS to install Solaris? According to the announcement: no http://opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2007032801/ »The ability to use Solaris Install infrastructure to install a ZFS root filesystem will be available in the future build.«

[osol-discuss] KDE and Solaris

2007-03-29 Thread Martti Hamunen
Why it is impossible to get the latest KDE for Solaris. I know, it is possible to install sources. But why not binaries. I hope that some day it is possible command: pkg-get -i kde (latest). Martti This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ openso

Re: [osol-discuss] SXDE Install Screenshots (dhcp'ed, w/ dual-boot)

2007-03-29 Thread Moinak Ghosh
Frank Hofmann wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Moinak Ghosh wrote: Manoj Joseph wrote: Moinak Ghosh wrote: Grub in the MBR. installgrub in Solaris overwrites the whole sector which would destroy the disk signature. Do you know if this is different from how grub in Linux does it? [...] grub_m

[osol-discuss] Re: Heads-up: ZFS Boot support for the x86 platform bld 62

2007-03-29 Thread Iban Nieto
Excelent news!! I can now use ZFS to boot and install Solaris? The links don't work :-( This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Mess

2007-03-29 Thread Ghee Teo
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: During the Windows 95 fiasco in China, police (public security officer, 公安局)raided stores and offices in Beijing searching for Windows 95 installed machines and confiscating Windows 95 disks. It was scary. I don't think anything like that is going to happen here; we ca

Re: [osol-discuss] SXDE Install Screenshots (dhcp'ed, w/ dual-boot)

2007-03-29 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Moinak Ghosh wrote: Manoj Joseph wrote: Moinak Ghosh wrote: Grub in the MBR. installgrub in Solaris overwrites the whole sector which would destroy the disk signature. Do you know if this is different from how grub in Linux does it? Well since you have asked this qu

[osol-discuss] Heads-up: ZFS Boot support for the x86 platform bld 62

2007-03-29 Thread Bob Palowoda
http://opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2007032801/ Might be helpful to give url's reachable outside the swan. - . Instructions for Manual set up: http://fs.central/projects/zfsboot/zfsboot_manual_setup.html ^^ 2. Instructions for Netisntall

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Mess

2007-03-29 Thread I. Szczesniak
On 2/27/07, W. Wayne Liauh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Simplified Chinese Solaris User's Guide: >http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-2523 > ditional Chinese Solaris User's Guide: > http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-2524 > pe these 2 guides are useful to you. (For some reason I was una

Re: [osol-discuss] SXDE Install Screenshots (dhcp'ed, w/ dual-boot)

2007-03-29 Thread Moinak Ghosh
Manoj Joseph wrote: > Moinak Ghosh wrote: > >> Grub in the MBR. installgrub in Solaris overwrites the whole sector >> which would destroy the disk signature. >> > > Do you know if this is different from how grub in Linux does it? > Well since you have asked this question, I spent a few

Re: [osol-discuss] xpg/bin/tr unexpect output on Sparc?

2007-03-29 Thread I. Szczesniak
On 3/28/07, Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 28/03/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Hi Casper, > >I did try it. It works perfect! > >Howerver, the issue is not about case convert. It's tr sending > >unexpected output. sometimes even core dumped. > >I 'm not sure SUN