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files were changed by a
putback and need to be included in a patch (mistakes have happened there
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code tarfile, and end with a
repo such as Rich Lowe did.
Rich Lowe published the steps he took in his README.
http://genunix.org/dist/richlowe/README.txt
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to build current ON
IPS bits, as evidenced by multiple external community members doing so. You
do need a recent build of IPS to build ON builds 136 later, and X builds
144 later, but that's fully available from the pkg-gate sources on the
opensolaris hg repos.
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Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote:
Can Oracle Engineering provide someone like Joerg what he needs to update
his external SchilliX distro to implement ON snv_145/IPS 134?
I'm guessing you're talking to me? I have no idea what
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote:
The IPS source compiles on machines without IPS.
Is there a separate IPS source?
The IPS source is hosted in the /hg/pkg/gate repository on
src.opensolaris.org, as described on the IPS project web
site opensolaris.com is going away,
folding the content from there into either opensolaris.org or the
Oracle Technical Network, but that was always a site that was separate
from the community efforts, hence the separate domainname.
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Peter Jones wrote:
Could a new community distro come out of a Bsd / Debian hybrid kernel?
That would be the existing GNU/kFreeBSD project, nothing to do with OpenSolaris.
You can go make all sorts of distros out of non-OpenSolaris components, but
those are off-topic here.
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is the name of the ongoing development branch, not a
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?
Why cause lots of problems by refusing to work with the other community members
and refusing to use the latest available code?
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distro. The community can't change the license terms for the code Oracle
owns/releases from CDDL to GPL.
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Peter Jones wrote:
Alan Coopersmith alan dot coopersmith at oracle dot com wrote:
The community edition can only be fully GPL compliant if the community
rewrites the kernel, at which point it's really a new OS, not a community
distro. The community can't change the license terms for the code
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#ifdef's may be added, but the body of code that would be broken
by removing the old is immeasurably huge.)
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strengths of Sun in the mid 1980.
I'm glad after 20 years, people are finally able to forget the pain of the
SunOS 4 - Solaris 2 transition.
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with 12u1 until more recently than that, and
they're still testing the results before sending out the notice that
it's time to switch. Only the lint from 12u1 was to be used with ON
prior to that notice.
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against introducing something new
that is based n the outdated (since y-2001) CPIO.
Using cpio in the installs is hardly new.
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joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote:
CPIO is limited to 8 GB files and the (non-POSIX ... SVR4) CPIO archive
format
Solaris is currently using by default is even limited to 4 GB file size.
So? If the OS installer is unpacking any
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote:
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote:
CPIO is limited to 8 GB files and the (non-POSIX ... SVR4) CPIO archive
format
Solaris
Stephan Ferraro wrote:
One question: The scp command I use on OpenSolaris is from Sun and not
OpenSSH?
OpenSolaris uses Sun SSH, which is based on OpenSSH, but with many changes
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has the set to use for now.
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that the
Parfait static analyzer from Sun Labs could be run on the code, but don't
know of anyone testing a full build with actual gcc 4.x compilers.
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Doug Poland wrote:
How do I get the OS up to build 139?
OS builds past 134 are not available outside of Oracle at this time.
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. (There are at least a couple working towards it.)
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released sources, leaving SFW the smaller consolidations
for running through the SVR4-IPS conversion process.
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more of the source gates as more consolidations transition.
If others want to work on a distro that doesn't have that issue, they should
be free to do so.
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and participate in
discussions, but not veto or overrule.
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Dennis Clarke wrote:
Whose gates ?
You mean the ones controlled by Oracle ?
Do we care anymore ?
If you don't care about the sources released by Oracle, then you're
not forking, you're writing a new OS from scratch. Have fun with that.
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Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote:
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
The problem is that Sun/Oracle did already fork and changed things without
asking the comunity whether this to be accepted by the community.
That's
can still
see the hg gate on opensolaris.org they used for development and the project
mailing list on mail.opensolaris.org.
The ARC case was unfortunately closed to the public, but there was one.
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joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote:
The ARC case was unfortunately closed to the public, but there was one.
make it public or it does not exist
That's not up to me or you. You can pretend it doesn't exist all you want,
but it's
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote:
Is that a horrible thing? Only if you expect and wait for it to be
something
it's not. Accept it for what it is and figure out how to work with it.
You
can always be in control of your fork
doesn't mean spending it on every single possible feature.
As anyone who has ever managed a budget knows, it's possible to spend more in
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happen if the community makes its own fork. Neither Sun
nor Oracle would put the community wishes ahead of customer requirements,
nor do I know of any successful open source OS driven by majority votes of
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no staff) attending would simply learn what
the presenters have been authorized to make public.
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packaging
technology, but customers who have purchased support contracts are still
getting security and other bug fixes in the /support repository.
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as a long time ARC
participant, including several years as an LSARC member - as the last couple of
points above notes, things are simply just different now than they were before,
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is to
fix both the development and support branches.
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inclusive
of those who do not like to see that language in any situation.
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this mean
that we lose control or what?
What control do you have now to lose?
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about why someone else should go do it.
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vomit on the Sun Blade, Sun Fire, Sun Ray,
Sun Studio, etc.?
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of better perceived interactive
performance.
The Xorg shipped with Solaris/OpenSolaris supports it as well (I've
never gotten around to getting it pushed upstream), and the client
side is built into libX11 so it works with all desktops, not just CDE.
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, but
that doesn't make the licenses stop complying with OSI's
definition of open source, though it may not be what some people
think of when they hear open source.
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server, effectively
putting that code into an out-of-process separate thread.
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server to respond but for something else
(the user to make input, a remote web server to provide http data, your
local javascript interpreter to run the downloaded code, etc.).
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-examination process as well.
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it difficult for me to post things like this, I can just stop - I'll be sad
if it comes to that, but it's not a required task for my job, and I can live
without the grief.
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it is a commercial product for
which Sun Oracle generate revenue via support contracts.
Sure, we could rename the distro, but that wouldn't get users more advance
information, just make it clearer that it's a commercial product built out
of an open source base.
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make, but
so far there is nothing we can pass on. It sucks, and we know it.)
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when any of the dozens of things that can
cause software schedules to change or be missed happen. This is software -
slip happens.
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could limit the
length of the line being displayed.
OpenSolaris-Discuss is for discussing the OpenSolaris OS.
OpenGrok has its own mailing list/forum at:
http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opengrok-discuss
http://opensolaris.org/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=117
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details if it did, as those sorts of
contracts typically include confidentiality clauses.
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or
not - that sort of behavior has no place on these forums/mailing lists,
and is a violation of the community code of conduct.
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, or is there any workaround?
Sounds like the well-known PTY permissions bug that's been in the release notes
for /dev upgrades for a while - see the entry for bug 12380 in:
http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/indiana-discuss/2010-March/017650.html
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Orvar Korvar wrote:
Oracle has Unbreakable Linux, and it has probably video codecs.
Probably? Why would you guess that?
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followed the /dev repo
or bought a support contract - there were no free fixes for the stable branch,
so the answer would presumably be the same as all those who were previously
willing to install prior OpenSolaris releases.
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That is not (unless you consider a later snv_* build to be based from 134).
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either, which also don't have PC BIOS'es, unless they support
OpenFirmware as well.)
You'll find it much easier to connect a serial line for the console than to
get a non-Sun card to work.
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a video card in the machine connected to the monitor he wants
to view the output on. There's no need for a video card in the server
to generate a GUI over the network.
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it finally sunk in.
http://www.c0t0d0s0.org/archives/6510-Future-of-OpenSolaris.html
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download the test suite, run it and certify it yourself.
(At least, that's the way Sun ran it - again, I've not kept up with any
changes that may have happened there.)
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Andrew Greimann wrote:
(I'd really prefer a desktop manager that was not GPLed--namely Fluxbox,
under the MIT.) Thanks.
Does it really matter? You can't eliminate GPL software from the system.
(Have you tried booting OpenSolaris on x86 without grub?)
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the strong statement of rushing out a buggy, incomplete release
instead of getting it right? Image is more important than functionality and
usability?
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, while the
older version on release is reporting each version of each package as
a separate package, leading to the mass confusion that resulted in that
statistic being reported better in the new version.
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two disjoint bug databases for OS development.
We enjoy it immensely.)
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,
especially as there would be no arguable benefit to it.
Or, can someone install the Fluxbox environment onto OpenSolaris?
Sure, download the source and build it. Or check the usual packaging sites to
see if someone has already done that and decided to share it.
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difficulties caused by the datacenter move:
http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/website-discuss/2010-June/006563.html
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RealVNC clients can still connect.
Also, is there a way to install solaris packages in opensolaris?
Yes, simply pkgadd them.
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a stable
release and enterprise support, along with administrative and analytics
enhancements above and beyond what's in the open/free versions of OpenSolaris.
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to be backported if they need those fixes.
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happens in the Unix base.
Like Oracle, Hewlett-Packard, or IBM freezing development of
their respective Solaris, HP-UX, and AIX platforms.
So it's hypothetical speculation about what could happen if something
unforeseen happens.
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, and the binaries are being
built on schedule.
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by reverting to old boot environments you
preserved.
If you suspect you may want to go back, keep around a boot environment
for the oldest release you may want to go back to. Once there you
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code commits continue and you can check them out from the
hg/svn repos and build them if you want newer for now.
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everything
8-bit or everything 24-bit, not mix both in the same session like some of
the old SPARC graphics cards allowed.
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the change was much smaller
than that:
http://hg.genunix.org/onnv-gate.hg/rev/caff1bd711f5
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, you can get tarballs
from http://dlc.sun.com/osol/sfw/downloads/
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that sites
or ISV's might have used when writing scripts
cde/help-viewer - allows viewing online help documents for
third-party applications built for the CDE desktop
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it was referring to things such as:
http://blogs.sun.com/wonderland/
http://www.projectdarkstar.com/
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are available as source and some as
binaries.
Along with a link that will let you download the libm sources (though it appears
they haven't been updated in several years - perhaps the compiler team knows if
they've got plans to refresh that).
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Cyril Plisko wrote:
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Alan Coopersmith
alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote:
And even they change their minds, so what they said last month may not be
true this month, such as the recent changes re-expanding support for
third-party hardware after previously
to the Solaris
version of tar over the past couple of months?
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SUNWgnome-common-devel if you're not on a recent /dev build with the
new-style package names).
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this month, such as the recent changes re-expanding support for
third-party hardware after previously announcing plans to cut it back.
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branch of the operating system, OpenSolaris is
the development branch - they are developed independently only insamuch
as any software product with separate stable and development branches.
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devsk wrote:
Can I use pkg image-update be used to update to 138?
If/when build 138 is published to the /dev repository, yes.
For now though, pkg.opensolaris.org/dev is frozen at 134.
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to go backwards to UFS.
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where the OS is unaware of it.
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