Re: [osol-discuss] Indiana Wish List

2007-08-02 Thread Matthew Gardiner
- Original Message - From: Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orvar Korvar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Indiana Wish List Why should things like Azureus be preinstalled on OpenSolaris

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-02 Thread Matthew Gardiner
Hi, True, but at the same time, until there it is 100% opensource, its going to be difficult for a distribution to be independent of Sun's input in some form or another. Matthew - Original Message - From: Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org;

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-02 Thread Matthew Gardiner
- Original Message - From: John Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kaiwai Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: MC [EMAIL PROTECTED]; opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:21 AM Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community. On Aug 1, 2007, at

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-02 Thread Matthew Gardiner
- Original Message - From: Alan DuBoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community. On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, MC wrote: It comes with their PCs

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-02 Thread Matthew Gardiner
- Original Message - From: Alan DuBoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matthew Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: John Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED]; MC [EMAIL PROTECTED]; opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 6:38 AM Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-02 Thread Matthew Gardiner
- Original Message - From: Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matthew Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Alan DuBoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]; MC [EMAIL PROTECTED]; opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-02 Thread Matthew Gardiner
Original Message - From: Alan DuBoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matthew Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Alan DuBoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]; MC [EMAIL PROTECTED]; opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-02 Thread Matthew Gardiner
- Original Message - From: Alan DuBoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matthew Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Alan DuBoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]; John Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED]; MC [EMAIL PROTECTED]; opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [osol-discuss

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-02 Thread Matthew Gardiner
- Original Message - From: Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alan DuBoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Kaiwai Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jim Grisanzio [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Richard L. Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]; opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 3:18 PM

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-02 Thread Matthew Gardiner
- Original Message - From: Robert Thurlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matthew Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Alan DuBoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]; MC [EMAIL PROTECTED]; opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: where to start?

2006-05-23 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Tuesday 23 May 2006 09:36, Ian Collins wrote: Nils Nieuwejaar wrote: On Mon 05/22/06 at 12:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does rather beg the question of what expectations we're building from a customer point of view with the update releases - clearly they're not just bug fixes

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: where to start?

2006-05-23 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Tuesday 23 May 2006 12:52, Doug Scott wrote: On Saturday 20 May 2006 17:39, Shawn Walker wrote: What do you mean by, The question is, will GNOME integrate itself into ZFS...? The same way that ACL capabilities need to be integrated in with GNOME; the same way in which

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: where to start?

2006-05-23 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Tuesday 23 May 2006 18:27, you wrote: On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 17:24 +1200, Matthew Gardiner wrote: On Monday 22 May 2006 21:13, you wrote: Matthew Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you expect a nice OS with a rich set of features, Solaris is the right way to go but then you

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: where to start?

2006-05-23 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Tuesday 23 May 2006 18:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Within Sun's software developement, we use something called binding determined by our architectural review committees to help determine the appropriate releases such a change can target. Nevada (OpenSolaris/S11) is micro binding right

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: where to start?

2006-05-23 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Wednesday 24 May 2006 00:35, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: [...] Very nice; now, nautilus and iPod integration, so that the iTunesDB is treated like a directory, the information inside are displayed as files, thus, allowing any files to be 'dragged and dropped' into the mock-file to

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: where to start?

2006-05-23 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Wednesday 24 May 2006 03:24, you wrote: Matthew Gardiner wrote: Also, it would be nice to be able to sync up music - I mean, I know this 'ipod' thing is a bit of a 'niche market' - I mean, there are only a few million of them out there, but if SUN programmers could spare a bit of time

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: where to start?

2006-05-23 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Wednesday 24 May 2006 03:44, David Clack wrote: Hi, I run gtkpod and gpixpod on my Solaris X86 system. grip with lame allows me to rip cd's with id3tags. Ah, thats probably what I've been doing wrong, Sound Juicer for some reason isn't writing the ID3 tags for me :-( The two

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: where to start?

2006-05-22 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Monday 22 May 2006 23:43, Geoff Lane wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 11:13:15AM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: Did you ever try JDS? It was a lng time before I realised that JDS wasn't some nasty Java toy and was in fact Gnome. During that time I ignored it. Sun really must

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: where to start?

2006-05-22 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Monday 22 May 2006 23:47, Darren J Moffat wrote: Geoff Lane wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 11:13:15AM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: Did you ever try JDS? It was a lng time before I realised that JDS wasn't some nasty Java toy and was in fact Gnome. During that time I

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: where to start?

2006-05-22 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Tuesday 23 May 2006 02:16, UNIX admin wrote: I don't expect everything to be available via a GUI, but I do expect that there is a decent printer configuration tool; that SUN get with the programme, lynch that POS that is lp, and replace it with something from the 21st century,

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Having /usr/ports on OpenSolaris

2006-05-22 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Tuesday 23 May 2006 03:53, you wrote: Matthew Gardiner wrote: But like I said, whats the alternative? Clearly by the lack of any progress in Solaris 10 on the desktop/workstation, SUN isn't willing to do anything about the problem. If you see absolutely no progress in the desktop

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: where to start?

2006-05-22 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Monday 22 May 2006 21:13, you wrote: Matthew Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you expect a nice OS with a rich set of features, Solaris is the right way to go but then you should not expect everything from the GUI at the same time. Once the growing acceptance of Solaris did

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: where to start?

2006-05-21 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Sunday 21 May 2006 21:41, Joerg Schilling wrote: Glenn Weinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our big customers are just starting to deploy Solaris 10. We are still on the ISV growth path. 2007 is far too early to introduce a new release. I have been telling customers the next release,

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Having /usr/ports on OpenSolaris

2006-05-21 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Sunday 21 May 2006 22:51, you wrote: Matthew Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure that this is true? Although the *BSD mainteiners are doing their job much better than the maintainers of Linux based distributions (e.g. Debian), they still apply patches that have

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: where to start?

2006-05-21 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Sunday 21 May 2006 22:37, Joerg Schilling wrote: Matthew Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you mean you'd like a ZFS GUI admin tool, then by all means write one (in whatever 'non-crappy' language you like), but that's not what I'd call 'integration'. Isn't that SUN's job

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: where to start?

2006-05-21 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Sunday 21 May 2006 17:07, you wrote: Matthew Gardiner wrote: On Sunday 21 May 2006 08:16, Dick Davies wrote: Not really. GNOME needs to be aware of ACLs to take advantage of those features. I don't see what business it is of GNOME what filesystem it's running on. If the file system had

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: where to start?

2006-05-20 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Saturday 20 May 2006 17:39, Shawn Walker wrote: What do you mean by, The question is, will GNOME integrate itself into ZFS...? The same way that ACL capabilities need to be integrated in with GNOME; the same way in which configuration tools should be GNOME applications, not half baked Java

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: where to start?

2006-05-20 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Sunday 21 May 2006 08:16, Dick Davies wrote: On 20/05/06, Matthew Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 20 May 2006 17:39, Shawn Walker wrote: What do you mean by, The question is, will GNOME integrate itself into ZFS...? The same way that ACL capabilities need

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Having /usr/ports on OpenSolaris

2006-05-20 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Sunday 21 May 2006 02:41, Joerg Schilling wrote: Roman Bekker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick wrote: Hi, I like the idea, but not the use of /usr/ports. How about /opt/ports? But to what end ? and with what back end compilers ? Regarding backend compilers, please just

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: where to start?

2006-05-19 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Friday 19 May 2006 20:59, UNIX admin wrote: - nexentas got a package repo out of the box - SE has none or? Try not to think of Solaris software in terms of repos, because it works slightly differently than on Linux. Be that as it may, download `pkg-get` from Blastwave and you will

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: where to start?

2006-05-19 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Saturday 20 May 2006 15:37, you wrote: On May 19, 2006, at 4:42 PM, Ian Collins wrote: Matthew Gardiner wrote: Just as a side issue, seems rather late in the product cycle to be including ZFS given that once 01/07 is released, its only a matter of a year that Solaris 11 is released

Re: [osol-discuss] Interesting blog entry on Solaris 10

2006-05-01 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 13:44 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: Venky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had this blog forwarded to me: http://nb.inode.co.nz/articles/Solaris10_Evaluation.html Hidden among the rants are some interesting points about Solaris 10. The typical crap I did see from

Re: [osol-discuss] Interesting blog entry on Solaris 10

2006-05-01 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 13:46 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: Bryan Cantrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 09:09:42PM +0530, Venky wrote: I had this blog forwarded to me: http://nb.inode.co.nz/articles/Solaris10_Evaluation.html Hidden among the rants are some

Re: [osol-discuss] Interesting blog entry on Solaris 10

2006-05-01 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 14:13 +0100, Peter Tribble wrote: On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 12:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this completely misses the the big picture engineering we at Sun employ: we don't hack away at 100 little problems with itty bitty improvements; we are trained to walk

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: YaST on Solaris 10

2006-05-01 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Sun, 2006-04-30 at 00:34 -0700, UNIX admin wrote: Sounds nice, but what would be the point? One of the core strengths of Solaris is consistency. If many different management / packaging tools are introduced into Solaris, in the end we will end up with another Linux-like salad, and in my

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: YaST on Solaris 10

2006-05-01 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 12:40 +0100, Geoff Lane wrote: On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 09:47:11AM +1200, Matthew Gardiner wrote: Solaris need a one stop place where you can configure your whole machine, from packages to printers, from partitions to patches, and everything in between. Sadly

Re: [osol-discuss] Interesting blog entry on Solaris 10

2006-05-01 Thread Matthew Gardiner
On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 09:29 -0400, Bill Rushmore wrote: On Mon, 1 May 2006, Matthew Gardiner wrote: For me at this moment, OpenSolaris isn't 'there' in terms of workstation use, but as a server, its definately there, even for my attrociously small network consisting of two computers

[osol-discuss] OpenSound and Solaris 10 01/06

2006-04-28 Thread Matthew Gardiner
Hi, I'm experiencing some difficulty with the latest test version of OpenSound (4.0 build 156) - when playing media files, the music is crackly and stuttery - is there anyone out there who can help me with this predicament? Matty ___