On 8/2/05, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
W. Wayne Liauh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In order to make blastwave an integral part of OpenSolaris, blastwave would need to move towards an open build process.
Guess why SchilliX cannot just use the results of the blastwave project. Jörg
In my
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Joerg Schilling wrote:
If you like to have a discussion where people read your mail,
you should start with lines that are no longer than 78 characters
following RFC-2822.
You and many other people in this list use infinitely long lines
that are close to impossible to read.
On 8/2/05, W. Wayne Liauh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my previous post, I asked a couple of what should be considered easy
questions regarding blastwave.org but instead of getting direct yes or no
answers, I was told to go through the entire web site.
This kind of attitude happened a lot
James Dickens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
he was stating it was rude to tell someone to go read the doc's instead of
giving him a link to a page that
anwsered his questions directly.
???
Did you read my mail?
If you did, you would know that this is wrong.
If you like to have a
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 17:27, W. Wayne Liauh wrote:
Don't forget that StarOffice is now included in Sun Solaris 10
Solaris 10 includes StarOffice 7 (based on OpenOffice.org 1.x). There are
quite a few differences between OOo 2.0 and 1.x.
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I did that for 10 years and the trouble never
came
That's OK. You're gambling, and whoever gambles is eventually bound to lose.
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On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, George Jereza wrote:
..
..
A better solution is to perhaps tweak OpenSolaris so
that it'll simply and clearly ask a user very early on
during install time something like...
Goerge,
Please be more specific about what distro you're referring to. I think
that by saying
Dan Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
exec /bin/ksh -o vi
As we alrerady have discussed before, this is a really bad idea
as it may make a system unusable if /usr could not be mounted.
Jörg
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Bruce Riddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
exec /bin/ksh -o vi
or exec /bin/ksh -o emacs
If you remove the exec you are safe.
Jörg
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John Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This does not help ud /usr is not mounted in single user emergency
mode.
/bin is a symlink to /usr/bin and when /usr is not mounted, then
there is no /bin/ksh - the bourne shell dies from the exec above.
In high end server environments,
On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 09:48, Joerg Schilling wrote:
outside of /lib (ie nothing in /usr). So my guess would be
that simply copying /usr/bin/bash to /sbin would make it
^^
available to you in times of emergency (ie when only /
is mounted, perhaps
On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 10:48, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Having /usr in a separate partition is an officially supported install
mode on Solaris. Thus giving the advise to include something like
exec /usr/bin/anything
into /.profile is a bad advise.
I'm pretty sure the original poster did not
Joerg Schilling wrote:
Dan Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
exec /bin/ksh -o vi
As we alrerady have discussed before, this is a really bad idea
as it may make a system unusable if /usr could not be mounted.
if I can type that command, /usr is mounted, and it works great.
When booting from
On 07/12/05 17:48, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Gavin Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyway, an ldd on /usr/bin/bash shows that it requires nothing
outside of /lib (ie nothing in /usr). So my guess would be
that simply copying /usr/bin/bash to /sbin would make it
available to you in times of
On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 10:17:56PM -0500, Tao Chen wrote:
I vote for changing the default shell to a better one.
Ah, but then the question is, which one. You might choose ksh over bash
for various reasons, others might prefer tcsh, and some of us know that zsh
is the One True Shell. If
On 7/8/05, Danek Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snipped all the wonderful stuff written
+1000 - a post put far more elegantly than I could given your internal
knowledge and experience
Thanks for the mini-insight into SUN's outlook on even small changes!
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Rich Teer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Gerhard S. wrote:
That's fine. But why does /bin/sh not just implement
command line editing? It's not that cursor key support
Because then it wouldn't be the Bourne Shell! Solaris takes
backwards compatibility more seriously than
Gerhard S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Gerhard S. wrote:
if I change the root default shell to bash. So now
I end up
typing bash or ksh set -o emacs after every su. Not
very friendly.
So put it into root's .profile. Not exactly hard
work.
But shouldn't be
Rich Teer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Case in point: one of the first thing I do when I install a new
system (personal one that is, not in my shared professional
working environment) is install a .profile for root that runs
ksh, because I like the features ksh has over sh. Do I find this
any
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can save all of us a lot of trouble by reading the POSIX
specification for how a POSIX compliant shell is supposed to work
here:
http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/sh.html
You may not understand or agree with it, but the great
Gerhard S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wasn't even advocating changing /bin/sh to bash.
Doing so would be nice of course, but I can see
it truly breaking old scripts when moving from a
old Bourne shell to something POSIX compliant like bash
by default.
bash is not POSIX copmpliant, it may
Tao Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I vote for changing the default shell to a better one.
I personally prefer ksh over bash, mainly because I think it's _technically_
more efficient to use Esc-k and the traditional vi-key-mode than those
cursor keys.
This was not true in 1984 when I wrote
On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Joerg Schilling wrote:
I hope you don't do it by putting something like:
exec ksh
Of course not!
into .profile like many people do. This would make your system
unusable in single user mode when /usr has not yet been mounted
Agreed; that's why I don't do it.
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Bill Bradford wrote:
On 7/7/05, Tao Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So we have heard from the conservative side of the CAB, any liberals?
Uh oh, now I need to make a Red OS vs Blue OS map! 8-)
And the Greens? You should always have your daily portion of
Greens ;-)
George Jereza wrote:
This is a good email thread for new Solaris users,
especially for those who are considering moving from
Linux. I'm hoping the community is cutting n' pasting
the main points in this thread and publishing it
somewhere, so that the group can move on to other
issues.
I agree. But if the intent is to grow the user base,
I'm guessing that newbies and Linux users would
probably rather get annoyed now instead of later.
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Do you want to install a command line prompt or
shell
that is backwardly compatible to legacy Solaris or
would
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Gerhard S. wrote:
That's fine. But why does /bin/sh not just implement
command line editing? It's not that cursor key support
Because then it wouldn't be the Bourne Shell! Solaris takes
backwards compatibility more seriously than other OSes...
Also why are the cursor
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Gerhard S. wrote:
if I change the root default shell to bash. So now
I end up
typing bash or ksh set -o emacs after every su. Not
very friendly.
So put it into root's .profile. Not exactly hard
work.
But shouldn't be needed. In Linux it works all out of
the box
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Gerhard S. wrote:
typing bash or ksh set -o emacs after every su. Not
very friendly.
So put it into root's .profile. Not exactly hard
work.
But shouldn't be needed. In Linux it works all out of
the box without adding magic commands.
Solaris is not Linux. Also,
On 7/7/05, Gerhard S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But shouldn't be needed. In Linux it works all out of
the box without adding magic commands.
POSIX compliance is a key feature of Solaris, I wouldn't expect SUN to
change this.
In what way is making broken cursor keys work
not backward
On 7/7/05, Sunil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think anybody is getting your point and I think they never will, and
it is the same mentality that has cost sun bigtime in last 3 years (if only
sun had the vision of open sourcing solaris even during or close to dotcom
bust, it would have
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