Re: [Openstack-operators] [publicClouds-wg] Public Cloud Working Group

2016-11-22 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Hello folks, On 11/15/2016 02:43 AM, matt Jarvis wrote: > I'd like to propose that, in line with the new process for creation of > working groups, we set up some initial IRC meetings for all interested > parties. I'll be glad to read summaries and participate to conversations on the mailing

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] "No Open Core" in 2016

2016-02-17 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 02/05/2016 07:17 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > So, is Poppy "open core"? I think it's a simple answer: no, Poppy is not open core. Poppy is not open core... Is Linux Open Core because you have to buy a processor and ram to run it? Or is Firefox open core because I have to buy service from a

Re: [Openstack-operators] No more weekly newsletter?

2016-01-19 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 01/19/2016 02:28 PM, Mike Perez wrote: > Do you mean the Dev Digest? It was originally in the newsletter, and then > people at the summit approached me about making it more visible, so it's now > a separate thing and emailed to the dev and operators list weekly. > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][neutron][cinder][swift][ceilometer][nova][keystone][sahara][glance][neutron-lbaas][imm] stylistic changes to code, how do we handle them?

2016-01-12 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 01/12/2016 06:13 AM, Amrith Kumar wrote: [...] > I did not exhaustively verify this but [...] A fair question to ask then is, why are you proposing these patches? > I created a quick poll to tally results oh no, not another survey! :) Sometimes I feel that survey-itis[1] is a consequence of

Re: [openstack-dev] Gerrit Upgrade 12/16

2015-12-01 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 12/01/2015 06:38 PM, Spencer Krum wrote: > There is a thread beginning here: > http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-October/076962.html > which covers what to expect from the new software. Nice! This is awesome: the new review panel lets you edit files on the web interface.

Re: [Openstack-operators] Draft Agenda for PAO Ops Meetup (August 18, 19)

2015-08-03 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 08/03/2015 09:22 AM, Ju Lim wrote: Any chance that the Ops meetup will have some ability for folks to teleconference in? Given that the conference will be at a hotel, experience tells me that we'll be lucky if there is enough bandwidth for all participants. OTOH, Tom has surprised us before,

Re: [Openstack-operators] [all] OpenStack voting by the numbers

2015-07-30 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 07/29/2015 09:27 AM, Maish Saidel-Keesing wrote: Some of my thoughts on the Voting process. Excellent conversation starter, Maish. One piece that attracted my attention on your post is: Community and How to Contribute. Way down there in at the bottom. Is that because people already

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][all] Tags, explain like I am five?

2015-07-15 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 07/15/2015 11:25 AM, Joshua Harlow wrote: So I've been following the TC work on tags, and have been slightly confused by the whole work, so I am wondering if I can get a 'explainlikeimfive' (borrowing from reddit terminology) edition of it. I'll try :) You need to think of tags as the

[Openstack-operators] OpenStack Community Weekly Newsletter (June 5 - 12)

2015-06-12 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Five things every contributor should know about the OpenStack docs project http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/five-things-every-contributor-should-know-about-the-openstack-docs-project New docs contributors may be afraid of moving too fast and breaking things - but don’t

[openstack-announce] OpenStack Community Weekly Newsletter (May 29 - June 5)

2015-06-05 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Containers and OpenStack: here's what you need to know http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/containers-and-openstack-here-s-what-you-need-to-know Interview with Adrian Otto, a principal architect at Rackspace, is the project technical lead (PTL) for Magnum, an API service

Re: [Openstack-operators] [Tags] Tags Team Repo our first tags!

2015-06-02 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 06/02/2015 07:54 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: Please, no. We should not have ops tags that are different than other tags for no good reason. Let me put it another way: I think there is a good reason for Operators to look for information about a project that is more descriptive than the current

[Openstack-operators] OpenStack Community Weekly Newsletter (May 8 - 22)

2015-05-29 Thread Stefano Maffulli
OpenStack users share how their deployments stack up http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/openstack-users-share-how-their-deployments-stack-up Some of OpenStack’s founding projects -- including Nova, Keystone, Glance, Horizon and Cinder -- continue to be the most popular. That

[openstack-dev] [all] Proper escalation venues for stuck reviews

2015-05-28 Thread Stefano Maffulli
First of all a reminder to everybody doing code reviews: Avoid sarcasm and jokes Those travel poorly across TCP/IP and don't translate well in different languages. Just don't use them. If you get a negative vote or comments you don't like/understand ask for more explanations. Offer a place and

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] Deadline For New Cinder Volume Drivers in Liberty

2015-05-13 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 05/13/2015 11:48 AM, Mike Perez wrote: The Cinder team has met today [1] to begin discussions on the deadline for new volume drivers in the Liberty release. The proposed deadline for volume drivers to be merged by is June 19th 2015 [...] Great to read this, thanks Mike. On a wider note,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] cross project communication: periodic developer newsletter?

2015-05-04 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Thanks Joe for bringing this up. I have always tried to find topics worth being covered in the weekly newsletter. I assemble that newsletter thinking of developers and operators as the main targets, I'd like both audiences to have one place to look at weekly and skim rapidly to see if they missed

[Openstack-operators] OpenStack Community Weekly Newsletter (Apr 24 - May 1)

2015-05-01 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Kilo Logo Superuser Awards final faceoff: your vote counts Four great finalists, but only one can win: it’s a close call as the voting deadline approaches for this edition of the Superuser Awards. Snapshot of the OpenStack community behind Kilo The OpenStack community that helped create the

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Who is allowed to vote for TC candidates

2015-04-30 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Thu, 2015-04-30 at 12:26 +0200, Flavio Percoco wrote: I've seen the number of threads to discuss Ops topics increase in openstack-dev and the influence of Ops - even just points of views inherited from the feedback we've got - on reviews has gotten better as well. Fantastic, that has

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Question for the TC candidates

2015-04-29 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Wed, 2015-04-29 at 12:59 +0300, Maish Saidel-Keesing wrote: Again my apologies for the incorrect format - since I am still not receiving the messages from this thread. let me know if you want me to investigate this further. Doug - evidently this is not working as it should. As Chris said

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Question for the TC candidates

2015-04-29 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Wed, 2015-04-29 at 18:28 +0300, Maish Saidel-Keesing wrote: How about the fact that the definition of an ATC was changed [1] for a free Summit pass? [2] This was not a decision of the TC, it was a decision of the Foundation staff. The definition of ATC has *not* changed, that's embedded in

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Question for the TC candidates

2015-04-28 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Mon, 2015-04-27 at 17:00 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: I would have to go back and check, but I'm pretty sure the posts were highlighted in Stef's community newsletter email. They were, in fact. But I know as a fact that even if people many love the newsletter, I have the impression that few

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Question for the TC candidates

2015-04-28 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Tue, 2015-04-28 at 16:30 +0100, Chris Dent wrote: What's important to avoid is the blog postings being only reporting of conclusions. They also need to be invitations to participate in the discussions. Yes, the mailing list, gerrit and meeting logs have some of the ongoing discussions but

[Openstack-operators] OpenStack Community Weekly Newsletter (Apr 17 - 24)

2015-04-24 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Why you should attend an OpenStack Summit OpenStack Summits don’t miss a beat - with a schedule full of diverse breakout sessions, captivating speakers, off-the-wall evening events and the occasional surprise, it’s the twice-yearly event you simply cannot miss. What would you add to the list of 10

[openstack-dev] [metrics] what answers do you expect from counting comments? (was Re: Please stop reviewing code while asking questions)

2015-04-24 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Fri, 2015-04-24 at 15:02 +, Amrith Kumar wrote: I would support changes to both reviewstats and stackalytics to do the following. 1. recognizes and gives credit to '0' comments 2. identifies recheck, reverify and similar directives to the CI system and flag them appropriately,

Re: [Openstack] ask.openstack.org google auth problem

2015-04-24 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Thu, 2015-04-23 at 15:00 +0200, Salvo Rapisarda wrote: I have a problem with auth google n ask.openstack.org When I try to login the page redirect to https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6206245?p=openidrd=1 Hi Salvo I apologize for the issue. We've had a couple of delays while

[Openstack-operators] OpenStack Community Weekly Newsletter (Apr 10 - 17)

2015-04-17 Thread Stefano Maffulli
OpenStack DefCore Community Review – TWO Sessions April 21 (agenda) During the DefCore process, we’ve had regular community check points to review and discuss the latest materials from the committee. With the latest work on the official process and flurry of Guidelines, we’ve got a lot of concrete

[openstack-announce] OpenStack Community Weekly Newsletter (Apr 3 - 10)

2015-04-10 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Making your list and checking it twice for the OpenStack Vancouver Summit Emily Hugenbruch shared her pre-summit checklists: great tips there. OVN and OpenStack Integration Development Update The Open vSwitch project announced the OVN effort back in January and Russell Bryant started to look

[Openstack-operators] OpenStack Community Weekly Newsletter (Apr 3 - 10)

2015-04-10 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Making your list and checking it twice for the OpenStack Vancouver Summit Emily Hugenbruch shared her pre-summit checklists: great tips there. OVN and OpenStack Integration Development Update The Open vSwitch project announced the OVN effort back in January and Russell Bryant started to look

[Openstack] [openstack-community] [Ask OpenStack] Scheduled maintenance Monday April 6th

2015-04-05 Thread Stefano Maffulli
[REMINDER] the service Ask OpenStack on https://ask.openstack.org will be down for maintenance on Monday, April 6 from 9am PDT for around 3-4 hours. The downtime is needed to move the service on new infrastructure, powered by OpenStack and puppet script. Once we move to the new server we'll have

[Openstack-operators] OpenStack Community Weekly Newsletter (Mar 27 - Apr 3)

2015-04-03 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Game changer: inside Adobe’s new Marketing Cloud architecture The Adobe Marketing Cloud powers software-as-a-service marketing for outfits such as the Los Angeles Kings, eBags and Verizon Wireless. When the IT infrastructure team in Adobe’s Digital Marketing group realized it was time for an

[openstack-announce] OpenStack Community Weekly Newsletter (Mar 27 - Apr 3)

2015-04-03 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Game changer: inside Adobe’s new Marketing Cloud architecture The Adobe Marketing Cloud powers software-as-a-service marketing for outfits such as the Los Angeles Kings, eBags and Verizon Wireless. When the IT infrastructure team in Adobe’s Digital Marketing group realized it was time for an

[Openstack] [Ask OpenStack] Scheduled maintenance

2015-04-01 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Hello folks the service Ask OpenStack on https://ask.openstack.org will be down for maintenance on Monday, April 6 from 9am PDT for around 3-4 hours. The downtime is needed to move the service on new infrastructure, powered by OpenStack and puppet script. Once we move to the new server we'll

Re: [openstack-dev] Regarding finding Mentors

2015-03-31 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Sat, 2015-03-28 at 19:58 +0530, Ganesh R wrote: I am a newbie to OpenStack, very interested in contributing to OpenStack development. Welcome. Jeremy provided some useful suggestions. Just last week I added to how to contribute page the links to mentors page:

[openstack-dev] Find your discount code for Vancouver and register *now*

2015-03-30 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Folks, If you have received your discount code to OpenStack summit Vancouver, stop whatever you're doing and register *now* Admission prices go up to $900 tomorrow and you'll have to pay the difference. *There will be absolutely no exceptions*. If you're in doubt if you

[Openstack-operators] OpenStack Community Weekly Newsletter (Mar 20 - 27)

2015-03-27 Thread Stefano Maffulli
OpenStack DefCore Process Draft Posted for Review [major milestone] OpenStack DefCore Committee is looking for community feedback about the proposed DefCore Process. March has been a month for OpenStack DefCore milestones. At the March Board meeting, the first official DefCore Guideline (called

[openstack-dev] Beyond IRC (was Re: Cinder Third-Party CI: what next?)

2015-03-24 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Tue, 2015-03-24 at 19:01 +, Rochelle Grober wrote: So, how do we get timely first core review of patches in areas of the world where Core presence in IRC is slim to none? I think that most core reviewers use bouncers, so notifying them in the channel would probably raise a notification

[openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-23 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 11:43 -0700, Mike Perez wrote: We've been talking about CI's for a year. We started talking about CI deadlines in August. If you post a driver for Kilo, it was communicated that you're required to have a CI by the end of Kilo [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8]. This should've

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next?

2015-03-23 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 16:23 -0400, Anita Kuno wrote: Some folks just will not respect other people's time. To pretend otherwise is a huge dis-service to folks trying their hardest to support those worthy of the support. This may be true in general but I have yet to be convinced that this is

[Openstack-operators] OpenStack Community Weekly Newsletter (Mar 13 - 20)

2015-03-20 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Feature freeze + Kilo-3 development milestone available We just hit Feature Freeze, so please do not approve changes that add features or new configuration options unless those have been granted a feature freeze exception. This is also String Freeze, so you should avoid changing translatable

[Openstack-operators] OpenStack Community Weekly Newsletter (Mar 6 - 13)

2015-03-13 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Five years in: Charting the OpenStack galaxy The Starship Enterprise had a five year mission, to explore strange new worlds, among other things, and as we approach the five year mark in our own mission, it's fun to think about the worlds we've seen and contemplate where to go next. Did anyone

[OpenStack-Infra] Better Corporate CLA management

2015-03-12 Thread Stefano Maffulli
hello folks, We would like to provide a greater degree of freedom to individuals who contribute on behalf of corporations who signed the Corporate CLA. By allowing corporate managers to maintain list of their authorized contributors we may be able to remove the need for every individual to sign

Re: [openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

2015-03-11 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Tue, 2015-03-10 at 15:23 -0700, James E. Blair wrote: The holy grail of this system would be the suitable for production deployment tag, but no one has figured out how to define it yet. Are crazy ideas welcome in this phase? I start with 2 below: Preface: an idea circulates about visually

Re: [openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

2015-03-11 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 17:59 -0500, Ed Leafe wrote: The longer we try to be both sides of this process, the longer we will continue to have these back-and-forths about stability vs. innovation. If I understand correctly your model, it works only for users/operators who decide to rely on a vendor

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder]difference between spec merged and BP approval

2015-03-10 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Hi David, On Sat, 2015-03-07 at 02:22 +, Chen, Wei D wrote: I thought the feature should be approved as long as the SPEC[1] is merged, but it seems I am wrong from the beginning[2], both of them (SPEC merged and BP approval[4][5]) is necessary and mandatory for getting some effective

[Openstack-operators] OpenStack Community Weekly Newsletter (Feb 27 - Mar 6)

2015-03-08 Thread Stefano Maffulli
OpenStack User Groups get a new home It’s easy to stay in touch with OpenStack birds-of-a-feather wherever you are, from India to Italy, with the new OpenStack User Groups portal. Even with events all over the globe, it's super simple to stay current — join a group, and you’ll be notified of new

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack]Specific Juno version

2015-03-04 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 17:42 +0200, Eduard Matei wrote: Is there a way to specify the Juno version to be installed using devstack. Let's please reserve this list for discussions about the *future* of OpenStack development, not questions about using its tools. Please, everybody, help us stay

Re: [openstack-dev] Gerrit tooling improvements

2015-03-03 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 17:10 +0200, Duncan Thomas wrote: I feel the need to abandon changes that seem abandoned I think there is an agreement that there should be a way to have a clean view of changesets that are being actively worked on, changes where the owner is responding to comments, working

Re: [openstack-dev] auto-abandon changesets considered harmful (was Re: [stable][all] Revisiting the 6 month release cycle [metrics])

2015-03-02 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Mon, 2015-03-02 at 13:35 -0800, Clay Gerrard wrote: I think Tom's suggested help us help you is a great pre-abandon warning. In swift as often as not the last message ended with something like you can catch me on freenode in #openstack-swift if you have any questions Good, this thread

Re: [openstack-dev] auto-abandon changesets considered harmful

2015-03-02 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Mon, 2015-03-02 at 12:00 -0700, Doug Wiegley wrote: Why do you feel the need to keep them? Do your regularly look at older patches? Do you know anyone that does? I don't think that's the point. The point is to try improving contributor's life by providing them one last useful comment

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable][all] Revisiting the 6 month release cycle [metrics]

2015-02-27 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Thu, 2015-02-26 at 16:44 -0800, James E. Blair wrote: It is good to recognize the impact of this, however, I would suggest that if having open changes that are not actively being worked is a problem for statistics, I don't think it's a problem for the statistics per se. The reports are only

[openstack-dev] auto-abandon changesets considered harmful (was Re: [stable][all] Revisiting the 6 month release cycle [metrics])

2015-02-27 Thread Stefano Maffulli
I'm not expressing myself cleary enough. I don't advocate for the removal of anything because I like pretty charts. I'm changing the subject to be even more clear. On Fri, 2015-02-27 at 13:26 -0800, James E. Blair wrote: I am asking you to please independently remove changes that you don't

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable][all] Revisiting the 6 month release cycle [metrics]

2015-02-26 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Thu, 2015-02-26 at 15:58 -0600, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: One thing that comes to mind is that there are a lot of reviews that appear to have been abandoned; I just cleared several from the novaclient review queue (or commented on them to see if they were still alive). I also know of a few

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable][all] Revisiting the 6 month release cycle [metrics]

2015-02-26 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Thu, 2015-02-26 at 14:18 -0600, Anne Gentle wrote: Do the features listed in the Release Notes each have appropriate documentation? So far we just link to the specifications for nova, for example. [1] So to me, it could be a focus on the specification acceptance means less time/energy for

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable][all] Revisiting the 6 month release cycle [metrics]

2015-02-26 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Wed, 2015-02-25 at 21:15 +, Ian Cordasco wrote: I read it the same was as Doug. I don’t think Jeremy was trying to imply your reviews would move through more quickly if you reviewed other people’s work. Just that, as with most open source projects, there’s always at least 2 distinct

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] creating a unified developer reference manual

2015-02-26 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Wed, 2015-02-25 at 14:54 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: 1. Should we have a unified developer guide for the project? Yes. Absolutely. Yes. 2. Where should it live and how should we manage it? I think the natural destination for it would be the URL http://docs.openstack.org/developer (which

[Openstack-operators] OpenStack Community Weekly Newsletter (Feb 13 - 20)

2015-02-20 Thread Stefano Maffulli
OpenStack Technical Committee Update: Project Reform Progress Over the last few months, the Technical Committee has been discussing plans to dissolve the binary concept of the integrated release and adapt our projects structure to the future needs of collaborative development in the OpenStack

[openstack-dev] Call for mentors - Upstream Training, Google Summer of Code, Outreachy (AKA OPW) [all]

2015-02-19 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Hello folks we have a bunch of upcoming initiatives to help out new contributors to OpenStack and we need mentors willing to help newcomers go from zero to (at least) one merged patch. OpenStack has always been a welcoming community despite being complex to navigate for new contributors. If you

[openstack-dev] The root-cause for IRC private channels (was Re: [all][tc] Lets keep our community open, lets fight for it)

2015-02-17 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Changing the subject since Flavio's call for openness was broader than just private IRC channels. On Tue, 2015-02-17 at 10:37 +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: If cases of bad community behaviour, such as use of passwd protected IRC channels, are always primarily dealt with via further private

Re: [openstack-dev] Summit Voting and ATC emails?

2015-02-16 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Mon, 2015-02-16 at 09:44 +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: Why did we change the rules on summit passes in this way ? Because there is always a balance to strike between open participation and effective conversations, while the balance point keeps changing. In Paris we've noticed a fairly

Re: [openstack-dev] Summit Voting and ATC emails?

2015-02-16 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Sat, 2015-02-14 at 21:11 -0500, Nick Chase wrote: Does anybody know if a) ATC emails have started to go out yet, and b) when proposal voting will start? Voting started: http://www.openstack.org/vote-vancouver Hurry, voting closes at 5pm CT on Monday, February 23. Continue to visit

Re: [openstack-dev] Summit Voting and ATC emails?

2015-02-15 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Sun, 2015-02-15 at 14:34 +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: Also a reminder, you need to be the owner of a change in Gerrit which merged on or after October 16, 2014 (or have an unexpired entry in the extra-atcs file within the governance repo) to be in the list of people who automatically get

[openstack-announce] OpenStack Community Weekly Newsletter (Feb 6 - 13)

2015-02-13 Thread Stefano Maffulli
OpenStack crowns “Liberty” its next release name OpenStack’s next release will be called Liberty. While you might be thinking of the word liberty in terms of “freedom” (as in free beer or other things), the name comes from a village in the Canadian province of Saskatchewan. Introducing PoshStack,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Lets keep our community open, lets fight for it

2015-02-13 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Thu, 2015-02-12 at 16:01 +, Amrith Kumar wrote: How is a private IRC channel any different from a culture of private discussions? Having a chat over lunch, in the hallway, on the telephone, etc., I will articulate again why I think that a group of leaders of OpenStack *should not*

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Lets keep our community open, lets fight for it

2015-02-12 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Thu, 2015-02-12 at 10:37 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Right. You can't prevent occasional private discussions and pings, and you shouldn't. It's when you encourage and officialize them (by for example creating a channel for them) that things start to go bad. Yes, that's very bad. Private

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Lets keep our community open, lets fight for it

2015-02-12 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Thu, 2015-02-12 at 10:35 +, Kuvaja, Erno wrote: I'm not attacking against having summits, I think the face to face time is incredibly valuable for all kind of things. My point was to bring up general flaw of the flow between all inclusive decision making vs. decided in summit session.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Lets keep our community open, lets fight for it

2015-02-11 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Wed, 2015-02-11 at 09:32 -0500, Sean Dague wrote: Definitely true, to each his/her own. I still consider it unfortunate. I've also heard core developers state that they stopped reading the mailing list months ago. Which I also find unfortunate. That's terrible: do you know why they don't

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Lets keep our community open, lets fight for it

2015-02-11 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Wed, 2015-02-11 at 10:55 +0100, Flavio Percoco wrote: This email is dedicated to the openness of our community/project. It's good to have a reminder every now and then. Thank you Flavio for caring enough to notice bad patterns and for raising a flag. ## Keep discussions open I don't

Re: [openstack-dev] EOL and Stable Contributions (was Juno is flubber at the gate) [metrics]

2015-02-10 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 15:20 +, Kevin Bringard (kevinbri) wrote: I've been talking with a few people about this very thing lately, and I think much of it is caused by what appears to be our actively discouraging people from working on it. Most notably, ATC is only being given to folks

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][keystone] SSO)

2015-02-09 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Mon, 2015-02-09 at 13:32 +0400, Anton Zemlyanov wrote: 2) There is no such a thing as OpenStack ID. Should we use Launchpad? Facebook login? Twitter? Actually, there is: https://openstackid.org :) It supports OpenID and OAuth, the code is on

[Openstack-operators] OpenStack Community Weekly Newsletter (Jan 30 - Feb 6)

2015-02-06 Thread Stefano Maffulli
OpenStack L naming poll We'd like your help again in selecting the right name for the development cycle and release coming after Kilo. Our next summit will happen in Vancouver, BC (Canada) in May. L candidate names were proposed, selected and checked for various issues... leaving 4 candidates on

Re: [openstack-dev] The API WG mission statement

2015-02-02 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Fri, 2015-01-30 at 23:05 +, Everett Toews wrote: To converge the OpenStack APIs to a consistent and pragmatic RESTful design by creating guidelines that the projects should follow. The intent is not to create backwards incompatible changes in existing APIs, but to have new APIs and

[Openstack] Call for Speakers - February 9 Deadline!

2015-02-02 Thread Stefano Maffulli
February 9th is the deadline to submit a talk for the May 2015 Vancouver Summit Would you like to speak at the May 2015 OpenStack Summit in Vancouver? Then hurry up and submit a talk! February 9 is the final day that speaking submissions will be accepted.

[Openstack-operators] Call for Speakers - February 9 Deadline!

2015-02-02 Thread Stefano Maffulli
February 9th is the deadline to submit a talk for the May 2015 Vancouver Summit Would you like to speak at the May 2015 OpenStack Summit in Vancouver? Then hurry up and submit a talk! February 9 is the final day that speaking submissions will be accepted.

Re: [Openstack] [All] Summit Session Proposal Voting

2015-01-30 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Wed, 2015-01-28 at 09:27 -0600, John Griffith wrote: You are exactly correct Thierry, being a track chair a few times in the process has been something like: * PIck a cut off based on votes * Review remaining submissions as a panel I followed a different process when I've been

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] Finding people to work on the EC2 API in Nova

2015-01-30 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Thu, 2015-01-29 at 16:01 -0800, Michael Still wrote: However, we got here because no one is maintaining the code in Nova for the EC2 API. This is despite repeated calls over the last 18 months (at least). I'd love to get to the root cause before we jump to look for solutions. The story we

[Openstack-operators] OpenStack Community Weekly Newsletter (Jan 16 - 23)

2015-01-23 Thread Stefano Maffulli
The Whys and Hows of the Oslo Namespace Change During the Kilo cycle the Oslo team has been busy deprecating the oslo. namespace in all of our projects. The first question this probably raises for most people is: why? Ben Nemec has the answer in his blog post and also explains how the Common

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] All rights reserved V.S. Apache license

2015-01-18 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Sat, 2015-01-17 at 16:07 -0500, Monty Taylor wrote: It's actually a set of words that is no longer necessary as of the year 2000. It's not communicating anything about a granted license, which is what the Apache License does - it's actually just asserting that the original copyright holder

[Openstack-operators] OpenStack Community Weekly Newsletter (Jan 9 - 16)

2015-01-16 Thread Stefano Maffulli
2015 Election Results Thank you to everyone who voted in this year's election. We reached quorum and passed the three bylaws amendments. We also reached quorum in electing eight Individual Directors to the 2015 OpenStack Board of Directors. And the winner is Individual Directors * Tim

[Openstack] Why all OpenStack Foundation Individual Members should vote now [all]

2015-01-14 Thread Stefano Maffulli
HOW TO VOTE: If you are an eligible voter[1], you should have received an email with the subject “OpenStack Foundation – 2015 Individual Director Election” from secret...@openstack.org. This email includes your unique voting link. If you did not receive an email, please contact

[openstack-dev] Why all OpenStack Foundation Individual Members should vote now [all]

2015-01-14 Thread Stefano Maffulli
HOW TO VOTE: If you are an eligible voter[1], you should have received an email with the subject “OpenStack Foundation – 2015 Individual Director Election” from secret...@openstack.org. This email includes your unique voting link. If you did not receive an email, please contact

Re: [OpenStack-Infra] Stackforge projects: Manila Image Project and licensing considerations

2015-01-13 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Tue, 2015-01-13 at 18:28 +, Csaba Henk wrote: What we are puzzled on is the license. This is something we have to figure out before we think of setting up the project. In general it's understood that Apache License (v2) is preferred. Question: is that a strict requirement on Stackforge

[Openstack-operators] [addendum to] OpenStack Community Weekly Newsletter (Week 1, 2015)

2015-01-09 Thread Stefano Maffulli
[one important paragraph was left out. I apologize for the double post.] First App Tutorial for OpenStack OpenStack needs something like the tutorial Writing your first Django app. We're looking for volunteers to flesh out ideas on what this tutorial would look like for OpenStack and how it would

[openstack-dev] openstack-dev topics now work correctly

2015-01-09 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Dear all, if you've tried the topics on this mailing list and haven't received emails, well... we had a problem on our side: the topics were not setup correctly. Luigi Toscano helped isolate the problem and point at the solution[1]. He noticed that only the QA topic was working and that's the

Re: [openstack-dev] The scope of OpenStack wiki [all]

2015-01-09 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Fri, 2015-01-09 at 10:35 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: One of the issues here is that the wiki also serves as a default starting page for all things not on www.openstack.org (its main page is a list of relevant links). So at the same time we are moving authoritative content out of the wiki

Re: [openstack-dev] The scope of OpenStack wiki [all]

2015-01-08 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Thu, 2015-01-08 at 12:52 -0800, Sean Roberts wrote: Thanks for bringing this up Stef. I have found while introducing OpenStack fundamentals in the user groups, what seems logical to us, the fully OpenStack immersed, is confusing to newcomers. Yeah, I'm diving more in the wiki in

[openstack-dev] The scope of OpenStack wiki [all]

2015-01-08 Thread Stefano Maffulli
hello folks, TL;DR Many wiki pages and categories are maintained elsewhere and to avoid confusion to newcomers we need to agree on a new scope for the wiki. A suggestion below is to limit its scope to content that doesn't need/want peer-review and is not hosted elsewhere (no duplication). The

[Openstack-operators] OpenStack Community Weekly Newsletter (Dec 20 - 26)

2014-12-26 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Last newsletter of 2014, see you again in 2015! University of Hawaii College of Education harnesses OpenStack to support faculty research via a secure private cloud OpenStack powers a Holodeck at University of Hawaii at Manoa... Read the full story on Mirantis blog. The TOSCA

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Core/Vendor code decomposition

2014-12-15 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 12/09/2014 04:11 PM, by wrote: [vad] how about the documentation in this case?... bcos it needs some place to document (a short desc and a link to vendor page) or list these kind of out-of-tree plugins/drivers... just to make the user aware of the availability of such plugins/driers which

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party

2014-12-15 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 12/05/2014 07:08 AM, Kurt Taylor wrote: 1. Meeting content: Having 2 meetings per week is more than is needed at this stage of the working group. There just isn't enough meeting content to justify having two meetings every week. I'd like to discuss this further: the stated objectives of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Spec reviews this week by the neutron-drivers team

2014-12-12 Thread Stefano Maffulli
I have adapted to Neutron the specs review dashboard prepared by Joe Gordon for Nova. Check it out below. Reminder: the deadline to approve kilo specs is this coming Monday, Dec 15.

Re: [openstack-dev] People of OpenStack (and their IRC nicks)

2014-12-10 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 12/10/2014 02:30 AM, Matthew Gilliard wrote: So, are we agreed that http://www.openstack.org/community/members/ is the authoritative place for IRC lookups? In which case, I'll take the old content out of https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/People and leave a message directing people where to

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Kilo specs review day

2014-12-10 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 12/10/2014 01:41 PM, Michael Still wrote: at the design summit we said that we would not approve specifications after the kilo-1 deadline, which is 18 December. Unfortunately, we’ve had a lot of specifications proposed this cycle (166 to my count), and haven’t kept up with the review

Re: [openstack-dev] People of OpenStack (and their IRC nicks)

2014-12-09 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 12/09/2014 06:04 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: We already have a solution for tracking the contributor-IRC mapping--add it to your Foundation Member Profile. For example, mine is in there already: http://www.openstack.org/community/members/profile/5479 I recommend updating the

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Changes to the core team

2014-12-04 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 12/04/2014 09:24 AM, Anita Kuno wrote: I think we move into very dangerous territory if we are equating a core review Gerrit permission (it is just a Gerrit permission, if it is perceived as anything other than that that is a perception we have created ourselves) with value as an OpenStack

Re: [OpenStack-Infra] [Infra] Infra-manual documentation Sprint, December 1-2

2014-12-04 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 12/04/2014 01:59 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote: If there's now wait to do this, we should just add a short redirect text and then make the page immutable so that nobody starts editing again. I don't think this is the best approach. At some point, the pages on docs.o.o will be changed and will be

Re: [Openstack] Poll: What are the top 3 topics for new OpenStack users and developers?

2014-12-02 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 12/02/2014 12:56 AM, Venu Murthy wrote: Great Initiative Mark, In the beginning of my openstack journey, being able to ssh/connect to the VMs/Instances was the greatest challenge. After having spent several months to debug such issues, I've posted one of the solutions here.

Re: [openstack-dev] Board election

2014-11-30 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 11/30/2014 06:44 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: When I log into the site I am unable to nominate people. Any ideas? I get: *Your account credentials do not allow you to nominate candidates.**”* That means that the account you're using is not the account of an Individual Member of OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] A more dynamic wiki, introducing Categories

2014-11-15 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 11/14/2014 09:11 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: Categories emerge automatically as you tag pages into them. No separate category creation step is required. True although incomplete. Categories are just pages, like almost anything in mediawiki, so if you add text [[Category: New_Category]] in a

[openstack-dev] [all] A more dynamic wiki, introducing Categories

2014-11-14 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Hello folks in the past months Shari and I have implemented more chunks of the taxonomy developed for us by Katherine Cranford (a volunteer expert). Using categories in the wiki pages can help us create dynamic pages and keep information more visible, well organized and discoverable. For

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] A more dynamic wiki, introducing Categories

2014-11-14 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 11/14/2014 02:50 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: In this precise example, I feel like the dynamic page is much less usable than the static page, due to the deep hierarchy. Got it. The current taxonomy is trying to map precisely the hierarchy of Program-Projects-Teams therefore it keeps the Nova

Re: [OpenStack-Infra] upstream training-guide and infra-manual

2014-11-06 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 11/06/2014 01:27 PM, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Stefano, Loic, infra-team, Just noticed that there's upstream training content that overlaps with the infra-manual: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/training-guides/tree/doc/upstream-training http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/ I

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