Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] How users should specify a datastore type when creating an instance

2013-10-28 Thread Denis Makogon
Small suggestion on listing datastore_type: Since all compabilities based upon config, we could send response to user based upon available guestagent managers, but this means, that all datastore managers parameter should migrate to taskmanager. Manager description(fq classpath) would delivered to

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC: Filtering boring commit subjects from ChangeLog

2013-10-28 Thread Oleg Gelbukh
Hello, I think that is really great idea. Do you think extracting bp/bug information (link) from commit message and adding it to the changelog might also be useful? -- Best regards, Oleg Gelbukh On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 5:50 AM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: Hey all! We're

[openstack-dev] quantum security model ?

2013-10-28 Thread Prashanth Prahalad
Hi Folks, I'm trying to understand the quantum security model. I've OVS plugin configured with VLAN isolation. I've a tenant project (alt_demo) *(admin) keystone tenant-list* +--+--+-+ |id| name | enabled |

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC: Filtering boring commit subjects from ChangeLog

2013-10-28 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Sun, 2013-10-27 at 21:50 -0400, Monty Taylor wrote: Hey all! We're adding a little bit of code to pbr to make the auto-generated ChangeLog files a bit more useful. Currently, they are just the git changelog, which is kinda useless. So we wrote this:

[openstack-dev] [Murano] Team Meeting reminder - October 28

2013-10-28 Thread Alexander Tivelkov
Hi folks This is just a reminder about the regular meeting of Murano-team in IRC. The meeting will be held in #openstack-meeting-alt channel at 8am Pacific. We'll discuss the status of our current delivery (Murano 0.3) and the issues which we recently faced with it. The complete agenda of the

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC: Filtering boring commit subjects from ChangeLog

2013-10-28 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 28/10/13 08:18 +, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Sun, 2013-10-27 at 21:50 -0400, Monty Taylor wrote: Hey all! We're adding a little bit of code to pbr to make the auto-generated ChangeLog files a bit more useful. Currently, they are just the git changelog, which is kinda useless. So we wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] consolidating .mailmap?

2013-10-28 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 27/10/13 22:13 -0400, Monty Taylor wrote: On 10/26/2013 04:38 AM, Robert Collins wrote: So nova has a massive .mailmap that maps multiple addresses for one person together. I'm wondering if a) it's still needed, and b) if it is, should we push it into all the repositories - e.g. have a

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Proposal for new heat-core member

2013-10-28 Thread Bartosz Górski
On 10/25/2013 09:12 PM, Steven Dake wrote: Hi, I would like to propose Randall Burt for Heat Core. He has shown interest in Heat by participating in IRC and providing high quality reviews. The most important aspect in my mind of joining Heat Core is output and quality of reviews. Randall

Re: [openstack-dev] Remove vim modelines?

2013-10-28 Thread Alexis Lee
As a new OpenStack contributor, +1 for lower barriers to entry. It's helpful for OS to inform editor style and I don't believe in the arguments to remove them. Why remove them? * we could shrink our codebase by a little bit. Why do you want to shrink it? Simplify, sure, but modelines are not

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Proposal for new heat-core member

2013-10-28 Thread Thomas Hervé
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Steven Dake sd...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, I would like to propose Randall Burt for Heat Core. He has shown interest in Heat by participating in IRC and providing high quality reviews. The most important aspect in my mind of joining Heat Core is output and

Re: [openstack-dev] consolidating .mailmap?

2013-10-28 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 27/10/13 22:13 -0400, Monty Taylor wrote: On 10/26/2013 04:38 AM, Robert Collins wrote: So nova has a massive .mailmap that maps multiple addresses for one person together. I'm wondering if a) it's still needed,

Re: [openstack-dev] what is the default timeout of the session the python nova client instance set up with the compute endpoint?

2013-10-28 Thread Thierry Carrez
openstack learner wrote: I am using the python-novaclient api and creating a nova client using client = Client(USERNAME, PASSWORD, PROJECT_ID, AUTH_URL) My question is: what is the default timeout of the session the nova client instance set up with the compute endpoint? [...] Xin: Do not

Re: [openstack-dev] Icehouse Design Summit Etherpad wiki page

2013-10-28 Thread Thierry Carrez
Sean Dague wrote: As my searching did not yet return an Icehouse design summit pages in the wiki with etherpads, I built it here - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Icehouse/Etherpads Thanks for creating it. For consistency it would be great if all the projects would use the same page

[openstack-dev] [climate] team meeting minutes Oct 28

2013-10-28 Thread Dina Belova
Thanks you guys who have joined Climate (OpenStack Reservation Service) team meeting. Here are the logs: Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/climate/2013/climate.2013-10-28-10.00.html Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/climate/2013/climate.2013-10-28-10.00.txt

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC: Filtering boring commit subjects from ChangeLog

2013-10-28 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:18 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Sun, 2013-10-27 at 21:50 -0400, Monty Taylor wrote: Hey all! We're adding a little bit of code to pbr to make the auto-generated ChangeLog files a bit more useful. Currently, they are just the git changelog,

Re: [openstack-dev] check-grenade-devstack-vm job problem?

2013-10-28 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Roman Bogorodskiy rbogorods...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi, I've been noticing since this morning that the check-grenade-devstack-vm job constantly fails. https://jenkins01.openstack.org/job/check-grenade-devstack-vm/ You can see that there were no single

Re: [openstack-dev] Stable backports

2013-10-28 Thread Russell Bryant
On 10/27/2013 07:07 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: Hi, In the case of stable back ports which have Fixes bug: #XYZ we will have to change this to the new format Closes-bug: #XYZ. Any thoughts on this? It doesn't have to change, right? The old format is still treated like Closes-bug AFAIK. When

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Preserving ephemeral block device on rebuild?

2013-10-28 Thread John Griffith
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 4:49 AM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.netwrote: On 28 October 2013 23:17, John Garbutt j...@johngarbutt.com wrote: Is there a reason why you could not just use a Cinder Volume for your data, in this case? Because this is at the baremetal layer; we want local

Re: [openstack-dev] About ryu neutron plugin

2013-10-28 Thread Kyle Mestery (kmestery)
Yong: It's been a while, but I've had success with Ryu in the past. As Kaneko points out, explaining the details of the issues you're hitting would help us narrow things down. Thanks, Kyle On Oct 27, 2013, at 5:09 AM, Yoshihiro Kaneko ykaneko0...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Yong, Could you explain

Re: [openstack-dev] Stable backports

2013-10-28 Thread John Griffith
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 10/27/2013 07:07 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: Hi, In the case of stable back ports which have Fixes bug: #XYZ we will have to change this to the new format Closes-bug: #XYZ. Any thoughts on this? It doesn't have to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Comments on Steve Baker's Proposal on HOT Software Config

2013-10-28 Thread Steven Hardy
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:23:20PM -0400, Lakshminaraya Renganarayana wrote: A few us at IBM studied Steve Baker's proposal on HOT Software Configuration. Overall the proposed constructs and syntax are great -- we really like the clean syntax and concise specification of components. We would

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Network topologies [and more]

2013-10-28 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 10/28/2013 06:47:50 AM: On 27/10/13 16:37, Edgar Magana wrote: Heat Developers, I am one of the core developers for Neutron who is lately working on the concept of Network Topologies. I want to discuss with you if the following blueprint will

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-28 Thread John Garbutt
On 25 October 2013 11:52, Nikola Đipanov ndipa...@redhat.com wrote: On 23/10/13 17:33, Russell Bryant wrote: 4) Blueprint Prioritization I would like to do a better job of using priorities in Icehouse. The priority field services a couple of purposes: - helps reviewers prioritize their

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thoughs please on how to address a problem with mutliple deletes leading to a nova-compute thread pool problem

2013-10-28 Thread Day, Phil
I’d disagree that that – from a user perspective they should always be able to delete an Instance regardless of its state, and the delete should always work (or at least always appear to work to the user so that it no longer counts against their quota, and they are no longer charged for it)

Re: [openstack-dev] [rally] The first Rally IRC meeting

2013-10-28 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/28/2013 08:34 AM, Boris Pavlovic wrote: Hi stackers, Tomorrow at 17:00 UTC will be the first weekly Rally meeting. Topics: 1) What was done. 2) Active tasks. 3) RoadMap. 4) Why we need Rally, when we have Tempest? 5) Why tempest stress engine Rally benchmark engine are different tools?

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-28 Thread John Garbutt
On 25 October 2013 10:18, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 24, 2013 9:14 PM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On 24 October 2013 04:33, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Greetings, At the last Nova meeting we started talking about some updates to the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Network topologies [and more]

2013-10-28 Thread Zane Bitter
On 28/10/13 15:07, Mike Spreitzer wrote: Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 10/28/2013 06:47:50 AM: On 27/10/13 16:37, Edgar Magana wrote: Heat Developers, I am one of the core developers for Neutron who is lately working on the concept of Network Topologies. I want to discuss

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Network topologies [and more]

2013-10-28 Thread Randall Burt
On Oct 28, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Mike Spreitzer mspre...@us.ibm.commailto:mspre...@us.ibm.com wrote: Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.commailto:zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 10/28/2013 06:47:50 AM: On 27/10/13 16:37, Edgar Magana wrote: Heat Developers, I am one of the core developers for Neutron

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Comments on Steve Baker's Proposal on HOT Software Config

2013-10-28 Thread Randall Burt
On Oct 28, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:23:20PM -0400, Lakshminaraya Renganarayana wrote: A few us at IBM studied Steve Baker's proposal on HOT Software Configuration. Overall the proposed constructs and syntax are great -- we really

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC: Filtering boring commit subjects from ChangeLog

2013-10-28 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/28/2013 03:26 AM, Oleg Gelbukh wrote: Hello, I think that is really great idea. Do you think extracting bp/bug information (link) from commit message and adding it to the changelog might also be useful? +10, this is a great idea. Have the one-liner messages be trailed with something

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Network topologies

2013-10-28 Thread Steven Hardy
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 08:37:15AM -0700, Edgar Magana wrote: Heat Developers, I am one of the core developers for Neutron who is lately working on the concept of Network Topologies. I want to discuss with you if the following blueprint will make sense to have in heat or neutron code:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Comments on Steve Baker's Proposal on HOT Software Config

2013-10-28 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 02:33:40PM +, Randall Burt wrote: On Oct 28, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:23:20PM -0400, Lakshminaraya Renganarayana wrote: A few us at IBM studied Steve Baker's proposal on HOT Software Configuration.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Comments on Steve Baker's Proposal on HOT Software Config

2013-10-28 Thread Randall Burt
On Oct 28, 2013, at 9:49 AM, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 02:33:40PM +, Randall Burt wrote: On Oct 28, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:23:20PM -0400, Lakshminaraya Renganarayana wrote: A few us at

[openstack-dev] Oslo summit etherpads

2013-10-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
I have created etherpads for all of the Oslo sessions for the summit, and linked them from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Icehouse/Etherpads#Oslo. If you have an Oslo session scheduled, and already have an etherpad created, please update the link (there's no need to move the content).

[openstack-dev] [Nova] [Havana] Is instance_type_extra_specs changed or broken?

2013-10-28 Thread David Kang
I've installed Havana using RDO Packstack. When one key:value pair is described in instance_type_extra_specs, the scheduler works fine. However, when multiple key:value pairs are described in instance_type_extra_specs in /etc/nova/nova.conf, only one of them are properly filtered, but the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-28 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 10/23/2013 08:33 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: At the last Nova meeting we started talking about some updates to the Nova blueprint process for the Icehouse cycle. I had hoped we could talk about and finalize this in a Nova design summit session on Nova Project Structure and Process [1], but I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-28 Thread Anne Gentle
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 9:24 AM, John Garbutt j...@johngarbutt.com wrote: On 25 October 2013 10:18, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 24, 2013 9:14 PM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On 24 October 2013 04:33, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Havana] Is instance_type_extra_specs changed or broken?

2013-10-28 Thread Joe Gordon
This sounds like a bug in Havana, please file a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova. On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:29 PM, David Kang dk...@isi.edu wrote: I've installed Havana using RDO Packstack. When one key:value pair is described in instance_type_extra_specs, the scheduler works fine.

Re: [openstack-dev] distibuted caching system in front of mysql server for openstack transactions

2013-10-28 Thread Dolph Mathews
It's not specific to mysql (or sql at all), but keystone is using dogpile.cache around driver calls to a similar effect. http://dogpilecache.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ It can persist to memcache, redis, etc. https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/common/cache/core.py On

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Network topologies [and more]

2013-10-28 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:07:08AM -0400, Mike Spreitzer wrote: Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 10/28/2013 06:47:50 AM: On 27/10/13 16:37, Edgar Magana wrote: Heat Developers, I am one of the core developers for Neutron who is lately working on the concept of Network

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Havana] Is instance_type_extra_specs changed or broken?

2013-10-28 Thread David Kang
It is reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1245541 Thanks, David - Original Message - From: Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 11:41:16 AM

Re: [openstack-dev] [rally] The first Rally IRC meeting

2013-10-28 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Jay, yep Dolph is right #openstack-meeting Dolph, Thanks Best regards, Boris Pavlovic --- Mirantis Inc. On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/28/2013 08:34 AM, Boris

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thoughs please on how to address a problem with mutliple deletes leading to a nova-compute thread pool problem

2013-10-28 Thread Joshua Harlow
Except I think the CAP theorem would say that u can't accurately give back there quota under thing like network partitions. If nova-compute and the message queue have a network partition then u can release there quota but can't actually delete there vms. I would actually prefer to not release

[openstack-dev] [Ironic] Design summit etherpads

2013-10-28 Thread Devananda van der Veen
I've posted links to the Ironic session's etherpads on the wiki -- https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Icehouse/Etherpads#Ironic If you have a session proposed and the link in the wiki is wrong (you have a pad somewhere else with good things in it) please let me know so I can update the link

Re: [openstack-dev] distibuted caching system in front of mysql server for openstack transactions

2013-10-28 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dolph Mathews's message of 2013-10-28 08:40:19 -0700: It's not specific to mysql (or sql at all), but keystone is using dogpile.cache around driver calls to a similar effect. http://dogpilecache.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ It can persist to memcache, redis, etc. I once

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Security groups with XenAPI

2013-10-28 Thread Simon Pasquier
Hi all, I'm trying to use the Nova XenAPI driver with Neutron (Open vSwitch with VLAN). After many attempts, I managed to make it work using the NoopFirewallDriver firewall_driver for security groups (which means, well, no security). With the OVSHybridIptablesFirewallDriver driver, the OVS

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-28 Thread Thierry Carrez
John Garbutt wrote: On 25 October 2013 11:52, Nikola Đipanov ndipa...@redhat.com wrote: I don't have the numbers but I have a feeling that what happened in Havana was that a lot of blueprints slipped until the time for feature freeze. Reviewers thought it was a worthwile feature at that point

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thoughs please on how to address a problem with mutliple deletes leading to a nova-compute thread pool problem

2013-10-28 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2013-10-28 09:01:44 -0700: Except I think the CAP theorem would say that u can't accurately give back there quota under thing like network partitions. If nova-compute and the message queue have a network partition then u can release there quota but

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thoughs please on how to address a problem with mutliple deletes leading to a nova-compute thread pool problem

2013-10-28 Thread Joshua Harlow
I wish everything was so simple in distributed systems (like openstack) but there are real boundaries and limits to doing something like a kill -9 correctly while retaining the consistency of the resources in your cloud (any inconsistency costs someone $$$). Sent from my really tiny device...

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Network topologies

2013-10-28 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2013-10-28 07:47:06 -0700: On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 08:37:15AM -0700, Edgar Magana wrote: Heat Developers, I am one of the core developers for Neutron who is lately working on the concept of Network Topologies. I want to discuss with you if the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Security groups with XenAPI

2013-10-28 Thread Bob Ball
Hi Simon, Yes, I believe you are right. We were already planning to discuss this very topic at the XenAPI roadmap session at the summit. Hopefully someone will take on tying up this loose end there. Security group support is the only thing we are aware of that is missing from the XenAPI

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thoughs please on how to address a problem with mutliple deletes leading to a nova-compute thread pool problem

2013-10-28 Thread Chris Friesen
On 10/28/2013 10:30 AM, Joshua Harlow wrote: I wish everything was so simple in distributed systems (like openstack) but there are real boundaries and limits to doing something like a kill -9 correctly while retaining the consistency of the resources in your cloud (any inconsistency costs

Re: [openstack-dev] distibuted caching system in front of mysql server for openstack transactions

2013-10-28 Thread Shawn Hartsock
I once heard a quote.. I had a performance problem, so I added caching. now I have two performance problems. this. 1,000 times this. Just to float this thought ... make sure it's considered... I've seen a *lot* of people misuse caching when what the really want is memoization. *

[openstack-dev] [infra] Meeting Tuesday October 29th at 19:00 UTC

2013-10-28 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
The OpenStack Infrastructure (Infra) team is hosting our weekly meeting tomorrow, Tuesday October 29th, at 19:00 UTC in #openstack-meeting Meeting agenda available here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting (anyone is welcome to to add agenda items) Everyone interested in

Re: [openstack-dev] distibuted caching system in front of mysql server for openstack transactions

2013-10-28 Thread Morgan Fainberg
In light of what Dolph said with regards to Keystone, we are using dogpile.cache to implement memoization in front of our driver calls. It it has the ability to cache directly as well, but it has been effective (so far) for our use-case. That being said, I am unsure if caching in front of MySQL

Re: [openstack-dev] Possible Keystone OS-TRUST bug

2013-10-28 Thread Miller, Mark M (EB SW Cloud - RD - Corvallis)
Done. https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1245590 From: Dolph Mathews [mailto:dolph.math...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 5:37 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Possible Keystone OS-TRUST bug Can you file a bug report against keystone so we

Re: [openstack-dev] Icehouse Design Summit Etherpad wiki page

2013-10-28 Thread Ryan Lane
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 4:50 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 10/28/2013 06:20 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Sean Dague wrote: As my searching did not yet return an Icehouse design summit pages in the wiki with etherpads, I built it here -

Re: [openstack-dev] distibuted caching system in front of mysql server for openstack transactions

2013-10-28 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/28/2013 01:21 PM, Morgan Fainberg wrote: In light of what Dolph said with regards to Keystone, we are using dogpile.cache to implement memoization in front of our driver calls. It it has the ability to cache directly as well, but it has been effective (so far) for our use-case. That being

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thoughs please on how to address a problem with mutliple deletes leading to a nova-compute thread pool problem

2013-10-28 Thread Joshua Harlow
But there is a difference here that I think needs to be clear. Releasing the resources from nova (in the current way its done) means another individual can take those resources and that causes inconsistencies (bad for deployer). I think we talked about how we can make this better by putting the

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Community meeting minutes - 10/28/2013

2013-10-28 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Hi, Thanks for joining us at the weekly IRC meeting today on 10/28/2013. Full meeting log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2013/mistral.2013-10-28-16.00.log.html Meeting summary: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2013/mistral.2013-10-28-16.00.html Please join us

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Comments on Steve Baker's Proposal on HOT Software Config

2013-10-28 Thread Georgy Okrokvertskhov
Hi Lakshminarayanan, I believe the extensions you proposed will extend HOT software components usability. In general I have only one concern related to components naming. In your examples you have software components like install_mysql (you got it from Steve's example) and configure_app. I would

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thoughs please on how to address a problem with mutliple deletes leading to a nova-compute thread pool problem

2013-10-28 Thread Joshua Harlow
Sure, convergence model is great and likely how it has to be done. Its just a question of what is that convergence model :) I agree that its bad customer service to say 'yes u tried to delete it but I am charging u anyway' but I think the difference is that the user actually still has access to

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thoughs please on how to address a problem with mutliple deletes leading to a nova-compute thread pool problem

2013-10-28 Thread Chris Friesen
On 10/28/2013 12:01 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: But there is a difference here that I think needs to be clear. Releasing the resources from nova (in the current way its done) means another individual can take those resources and that causes inconsistencies (bad for deployer). I think we talked

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Preserving ephemeral block device on rebuild?

2013-10-28 Thread Robert Collins
On 29 October 2013 02:35, John Griffith john.griff...@solidfire.com wrote: Personally I'd rather go the proper route and try to get what you need in to Cinder, FWIW the local storage provisioning is something that Vish brought We -totally- want to do that but it's not the same as local storage

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Proposal for new heat-core member

2013-10-28 Thread Steve Baker
+1 On 10/26/2013 08:12 AM, Steven Dake wrote: Hi, I would like to propose Randall Burt for Heat Core. He has shown interest in Heat by participating in IRC and providing high quality reviews. The most important aspect in my mind of joining Heat Core is output and quality of reviews.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Network topologies

2013-10-28 Thread Edgar Magana
Hello Folks, Thank you Zane, Steven and Clint for you input. Our main goal in this BP is to provide networking users such as Heat (we consider it as a neutron user) a better and consolidated network building block in terms of an API that you could use for orchestration of application-driven

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Comments on Steve Baker's Proposal on HOT Software Config

2013-10-28 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote on 10/28/2013 04:24:30 PM: On 10/29/2013 02:53 AM, Steven Hardy wrote: ... Can anyone provide me with a clear argument for what the fundamental differences actually are? ... Since writing those proposals my thinking has evolved too. I'm currently

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs

2013-10-28 Thread Erik Moe
Hi! We are looking into how to make it possible for tenant VMs to use VLAN tagged traffic to connect to different Neutron networks. The VID on frames sent/received will determine which Neutron network the frames are connected to. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/vlan-aware-vms I

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Please create and list etherpads for summit sessions

2013-10-28 Thread Robert Collins
If you proposed a summit session and it's been accepted you need to create etherpads for the sessions, and list them on the summit etherpad list - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Icehouse/Etherpads I will copy links from that list into the summit descriptions on Wednesday; if it's not done

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs

2013-10-28 Thread beyounn
Hi Erik, While we were discussing about the service VM framework, the trunk port support was also mentioned. I think people do see the needs for it. I have seen someone have mentioned another BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/quantum-network-bundle-api in your BP already. Maybe

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Comments on Steve Baker's Proposal on HOT Software Config

2013-10-28 Thread Georgy Okrokvertskhov
A component is implemented by a bit of user code (and/or other sorts of instructions) embedded in or referenced by a template, with no fixed API and not invoked with Keystone credentials. We desire the heat engine to invoke operations on resources; we do not desire the heat engine to invoke

[openstack-dev] [TripleO][Nova] summit overlap

2013-10-28 Thread Robert Collins
Hey Russell, any chance you can shuffle the two tuesday nova sessions on scheduler - 1450 and 1640 - to another day? Both of those are pretty relevant to the baremetal workload aspect of TripleO, the former largely for Devananda with his Ironic hat on, the latter for our ability to schedule work

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs

2013-10-28 Thread Kyle Mestery (kmestery)
I think the trunk port BP referenced below (and registered by myself) would likely solve this use case. There is no design summit session to discuss this, but I hope to have an unconference slot in Hong Kong to discuss this with folks who are interested. Thanks, Kyle On Oct 28, 2013, at 4:34

[openstack-dev] Code Review (Jenkins-job-builder, BlameUpstreamCommitters plugin support)

2013-10-28 Thread Peter Liljenberg
Hi, Could someone review this please: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54085/ Regards, Peter ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs

2013-10-28 Thread Isaku Yamahata
Hi Erik and Li. Unconference at the next summit? On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 02:34:28PM -0700, beyounn beyo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Erik, While we were discussing about the service VM framework, the trunk port support was also mentioned. I think people do see the needs for it. I have seen

Re: [openstack-dev] extending nova boot

2013-10-28 Thread Drew Fisher
Chris and Phil, Thanks for the clue on using scheduler_hints as a template. I've implemented a V2 API version of my extension to get started (for stable/grizzly) and I can see all of the data moving from nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py to nova/compute/api.py.create() - _create_instance() -

Re: [openstack-dev] distibuted caching system in front of mysql server for openstack transactions

2013-10-28 Thread Qing He
Thanks Morgan. In my embedded situation, There is no hard drive where I run the Openstack controller, keystone, and other control functions, thus, my only choice has to be to use an in-core-db (cache) for the realtime transactions into the database, and then use another process to sync the data

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-28 Thread Robert Collins
On 29 October 2013 03:24, John Garbutt j...@johngarbutt.com wrote: I based that on this statement, which I think sums it up well If the patch implements a feature, it should reference a blueprint. The blueprint should be approved before the patch is merged

[openstack-dev] [savanna] Design summit etherpads

2013-10-28 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Here is a list of the Savanna session’s etherpads on the wiki - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Icehouse/Etherpads#Savanna Sincerely yours, Sergey Lukjanov Savanna Technical Lead Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Nova] summit overlap

2013-10-28 Thread Russell Bryant
On 10/28/2013 05:40 PM, Robert Collins wrote: Hey Russell, any chance you can shuffle the two tuesday nova sessions on scheduler - 1450 and 1640 - to another day? Both of those are pretty relevant to the baremetal workload aspect of TripleO, the former largely for Devananda with his Ironic

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion

2013-10-28 Thread Sumit Naiksatam
Hi All, This is a reminder for the next IRC meeting on Tuesday (Oct 29th) 15.30 UTC (8.30 AM PDT) on the #openstack-meeting-alt channel. Meeting agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/AdvancedServices Thanks, ~Sumit. On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Sumit Naiksatam

[openstack-dev] [TripleO][Nova][neutron][Heat][Oslo][Ceilometer][Havana]Single Subscription Point for event notification

2013-10-28 Thread Qing He
All, I found multiple places/components you can get event alarms, e.g., Heat, Ceilometer, Oslo, Nova etc, notification. But I fail to find any documents as to how to do it in the respective component documents. I 'm wondering if there is document as to if there is a single API entry point

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Nova] summit overlap

2013-10-28 Thread Devananda van der Veen
I can't make the Wed 2:50 session -- I'm presenting at that time -- but I don't think it's essential for me to be there anyway. Everything else LGTM. Thanks! -Deva On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.netwrote: Thanks! -Rob On 29 October 2013 11:16,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-28 Thread Steve Baker
On 10/26/2013 05:25 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Angus Salkeld's message of 2013-10-24 18:48:16 -0700: On 24/10/13 11:54 +0200, Patrick Petit wrote: Hi Clint, Thank you! I have few replies/questions in-line. Cheers, Patrick On 10/23/13 8:36 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: I think this fits

[openstack-dev] Looking for an MC for Ligthing Talks in Hong Kong

2013-10-28 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Hello folks as it's now an established tradition of OpenStack Summits, we'll have 30 minutes every day in Hong Kong for people to present their projects in 5 minutes or less. The projects can be about anything, really, from building furniture to 3D printing to cloudy stuff. People that want to

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Nova][neutron][Heat][Oslo][Ceilometer][Havana]Single Subscription Point for event notification

2013-10-28 Thread Georgy Okrokvertskhov
Hi, I am not sure that there is an existing service or API for event subscription. The event management was listed as a part of Mistral project which is not implemented though. If I am not mistaken, Mistral will allow you to refer events and alarms coming from different sources and trig some

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-28 Thread Keith Bray
In-line comments. On 10/28/13 5:43 PM, Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote: On 10/26/2013 05:25 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Angus Salkeld's message of 2013-10-24 18:48:16 -0700: On 24/10/13 11:54 +0200, Patrick Petit wrote: Hi Clint, Thank you! I have few replies/questions in-line.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs

2013-10-28 Thread Erik Moe
Hi Yamahata, yes, unconference sounds good. I agree that quantum-network-bundle-api is in the same area. I missed this blueprint. /Erik On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Isaku Yamahata isaku.yamah...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Erik and Li. Unconference at the next summit? On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] How users should specify a datastore type when creating an instance

2013-10-28 Thread Tim Simpson
+1 to Vipul's suggestion. Since all compabilities based upon config, we could send response to user based upon available guestagent managers, but this means, that all datastore managers parameter should migrate to taskmanager.? Manager description(fq classpath) would delivered to instance

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-28 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2013-10-28 15:43:02 -0700: On 10/26/2013 05:25 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Angus Salkeld's message of 2013-10-24 18:48:16 -0700: On 24/10/13 11:54 +0200, Patrick Petit wrote: Hi Clint, Thank you! I have few replies/questions in-line.

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Nova][neutron][Heat][Oslo][Ceilometer][Havana]Single Subscription Point for event notification

2013-10-28 Thread Angus Salkeld
On 28/10/13 22:30 +, Qing He wrote: All, I found multiple places/components you can get event alarms, e.g., Heat, Ceilometer, Oslo, Nova etc, notification. But I fail to find any documents as to how to do it in the respective component documents. I 'm wondering if there is document as to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] How users should specify a datastore type when creating an instance

2013-10-28 Thread Denis Makogon
Oslo config files is the higher abstraction of trove service configuration. Since common/cfg.py configuration is almost independent from *.conf files, then yes, we could use parameters from there, but, to be precise, we should intialize that parameter in a right way, and this means we should store

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][qa] user-oriented release notes for v3 api?

2013-10-28 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:22 AM, David Kranz dkr...@redhat.com wrote: As I looked at the havana release notes that talk about the v3 api, and as I was reviewing port test_images and test_server_actions into v3 part2

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Nova][neutron][Heat][Oslo][Ceilometer][Havana]Single Subscription Point for event notification

2013-10-28 Thread Sandy Walsh
Here's the current adoption of notifications in OpenStack ... hope it helps! http://www.sandywalsh.com/2013/09/notification-usage-in-openstack-report.html -S From: Qing He [qing...@radisys.com] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 8:48 PM To: OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs

2013-10-28 Thread Yi Sun
Yes, if we can do that it will be perfect. How should we arrange this? I will arrive at the morning of 5th. Yi On Monday, October 28, 2013, Erik Moe wrote: Hi Yamahata, yes, unconference sounds good. I agree that quantum-network-bundle-api is in the same area. I missed this blueprint.

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Nova][neutron][Heat][Oslo][Ceilometer][Havana]Single Subscription Point for event notification

2013-10-28 Thread Qing He
Sandy, Thanks for your comprehensive report card and detailed explanation! That helps a lot! I'll follow the route of using Yagi for now. Qing -Original Message- From: Sandy Walsh [mailto:sandy.wa...@rackspace.com] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 4:56 PM To: OpenStack Development

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-28 Thread Angus Salkeld
On 28/10/13 16:26 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: [snip] My components proposals had no hosted_on, but I've been thinking about the implications of implementing software configuration as resources, and one of the natural consequences might be that hosted_on is the best way of establishing the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] FWaaS IceHouse summit prep and IRC meeting

2013-10-28 Thread fank
My mainly concern is using neutron port for zones may cause confusion/misconfig while you can have two ports connected to same network/subnet in different zone. Using network, or subnet (in the form of network/subnet uuid), on the other hand, is more general and can still be mapped to any

[openstack-dev] Full schedule for HongKong summit?

2013-10-28 Thread Lu, Lianhao
Hi all, Looks like we have http://icehousedesignsummit.sched.org/ for the summit session schedules and http://openstacksummitnovember2013.sched.org/ for presentations/panels schedules. Do we have a schedule combined both of the two? -Lianhao ___

Re: [openstack-dev] check-grenade-devstack-vm job problem?

2013-10-28 Thread Roman Bogorodskiy
Joe, thanks for clarification. On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Roman Bogorodskiy rbogorods...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi, I've been noticing since this morning that the check-grenade-devstack-vm job constantly

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