Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-08-27 10:08:36 -0700: On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 09:40:31AM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-27 08:41:29 -0700: On 27/08/14 11:04, Steven Hardy wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 07:54:41PM +0530, Jyoti Ranjan

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit reloaded

2014-08-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2014-08-27 05:51:55 -0700: Hi everyone, I've been thinking about what changes we can bring to the Design Summit format to make it more productive. I've heard the feedback from the mid-cycle meetups and would like to apply some of those ideas for

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit reloaded

2014-08-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2014-08-27 06:26:38 -0700: On 08/27/2014 08:51 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, I've been thinking about what changes we can bring to the Design Summit format to make it more productive. I've heard the feedback from the mid-cycle meetups and

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit reloaded

2014-08-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Anita Kuno's message of 2014-08-27 13:48:25 -0700: On 08/27/2014 02:46 PM, John Griffith wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/27/2014 03:26 PM, Sean Dague wrote: On 08/27/2014 08:51 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Marconi][Heat] Creating accounts in Keystone

2014-08-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2014-08-24 20:17:34 -0700: On 08/23/2014 02:01 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: I don't know how Zaqar does its magic, but I'd love to see simple signed URLs rather than users/passwords. This would work for Heat as well. That way we only have to pass in a single

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][all][Heat] Packaging of functional tests

2014-08-26 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2014-08-26 14:25:46 -0700: On 27/08/14 03:18, David Kranz wrote: On 08/26/2014 10:14 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: Steve Baker has started the process of moving Heat tests out of the Tempest repository and into the Heat repository, and we're looking for

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] heat.conf.sample is not up to date

2014-08-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Guessing this is due to the new tox feature which randomizes python's hash seed. Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2014-08-24 00:10:42 -0700: What is going on with this? If I do a fresh clone of heat and run `tox -epep8` then I get that complaint. If I then run the recommended

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Marconi][Heat] Creating accounts in Keystone

2014-08-23 Thread Clint Byrum
I don't know how Zaqar does its magic, but I'd love to see simple signed URLs rather than users/passwords. This would work for Heat as well. That way we only have to pass in a single predictably formatted string. Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-22 14:35:38 -0700: Here's an

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dolph Mathews's message of 2014-08-22 09:45:37 -0700: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 22/08/14 11:19, Thierry Carrez wrote: Zane Bitter wrote: On 22/08/14 08:33, Thierry Carrez wrote: We also still need someone to have the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][Heat] Murano split dsicussion

2014-08-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Angus Salkeld's message of 2014-08-21 20:14:12 -0700: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Georgy Okrokvertskhov's message of 2014-08-20 13:14:28 -0700: During last Atlanta summit there were couple discussions about Application

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Michael Chapman's message of 2014-08-21 23:30:44 -0700: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:57 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/19/2014 11:28 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On 20 August 2014 02:37, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: ... I'd like to see more unification

[openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TripleO] How to gracefully quiesce a box?

2014-08-22 Thread Clint Byrum
It has been brought to my attention that Ironic uses the biggest hammer in the IPMI toolbox to control chassis power: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ironic/tree/ironic/drivers/modules/ipminative.py#n142 Which is ret = ipmicmd.set_power('off', wait) This is the most abrupt form,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TripleO] How to gracefully quiesce a box?

2014-08-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2014-08-22 11:16:05 -0700: On 08/22/2014 01:48 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: It has been brought to my attention that Ironic uses the biggest hammer in the IPMI toolbox to control chassis power: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ironic/tree/ironic

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Duncan Thomas's message of 2014-08-21 09:21:06 -0700: On 21 August 2014 14:27, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Specifically for Triple-O, by making the Deployment program == Triple-O, the TC has picked the disk-image-based deployment of an undercloud design as The

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from David Kranz's message of 2014-08-21 12:45:05 -0700: On 08/21/2014 02:39 PM, gordon chung wrote: The point I've been making is that by the TC continuing to bless only the Ceilometer project as the OpenStack Way of Metering, I think we do a disservice to our users by

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][Heat] Murano split dsicussion

2014-08-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Georgy Okrokvertskhov's message of 2014-08-20 13:14:28 -0700: During last Atlanta summit there were couple discussions about Application Catalog and Application space projects in OpenStack. These cross-project discussions occurred as a result of Murano incubation request [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2014-08-18 23:41:20 -0700: On 18 August 2014 09:32, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: I can see your perspective but I don't think its internally consistent... Here's why folk are questioning Ceilometer: Nova is a set of tools to abstract

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2014-08-20 14:53:22 -0700: On 08/20/2014 05:06 PM, Chris Friesen wrote: On 08/20/2014 07:21 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: Hi Thierry, thanks for the reply. Comments inline. :) On 08/20/2014 06:32 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: If we want to follow your model, we

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Here's why folk are questioning Ceilometer: Nova is a set of tools to abstract virtualization implementations. Neutron is a set of tools to abstract SDN/NFV implementations. Cinder is a set of tools to abstract block-device implementations. Trove is a set of tools to simplify consumption of

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] fix poor tarball support in source-repositories

2014-08-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jyoti Ranjan's message of 2014-08-16 00:57:52 -0700: We will have to be little bit cautious in using glob because of its inherent usage pattern. For e.g. the file starting with . will not get matched. That is a separate bug, but I think the answer to that is to use rsync

Re: [openstack-dev] Time to Samba! :-)

2014-08-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Martinx - ジェームズ's message of 2014-08-16 12:03:20 -0700: Hey Stackers, I'm wondering here... Samba4 is pretty solid (up coming 4.2 rocks), I'm using it on a daily basis as an AD DC controller, for both Windows and Linux Instances! With replication, file system ACLs - cifs,

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] fix poor tarball support in source-repositories

2014-08-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Brownell, Jonathan C (Corvallis)'s message of 2014-08-15 08:11:18 -0700: The current DIB element support for downloading tarballs via source-repository allows an entry in the following form: name tar targetdir url Today, this feature is currently used only by the mysql DIB

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2014-08-13 02:54:58 -0700: Rochelle.RochelleGrober wrote: [...] So, with all that prologue, here is what I propose (and please consider proposing your improvements/changes to it). I would like to see for Kilo: - IRC meetings and mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][heat] a small experiment with Ansible in TripleO

2014-08-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2014-08-10 15:33:26 -0700: On 02/08/14 04:07, Allison Randal wrote: A few of us have been independently experimenting with Ansible as a backend for TripleO, and have just decided to try experimenting together. I've chatted with Robert, and he says that

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][heat] a small experiment with Ansible in TripleO

2014-08-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-11 08:16:56 -0700: On 11/08/14 10:46, Clint Byrum wrote: Right now we're stuck with an update that just doesn't work. It isn't just about update-failure-recovery, which is coming along nicely, but it is also about the lack of signals to control

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][heat] a small experiment with Ansible in TripleO

2014-08-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-08-11 11:40:07 -0700: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:20:50AM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-11 08:16:56 -0700: On 11/08/14 10:46, Clint Byrum wrote: Right now we're stuck with an update that just doesn't

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][heat] a small experiment with Ansible in TripleO

2014-08-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-11 13:35:44 -0700: On 11/08/14 14:49, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-08-11 11:40:07 -0700: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:20:50AM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-11 08:16:56

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] a small experiment with Ansible in TripleO

2014-08-04 Thread Clint Byrum
I've been fiddling on github. This repo is unfortunately named the same but is not the same ancestry as yours. Anyway, the branch 'fiddling' has a working Heat inventory plugin which should give you a hostvar of 'heat_metadata' per host in the given stack.

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Cross-server locking for neutron server

2014-07-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Please do not re-invent locking.. the way we reinvented locking in Heat. ;) There are well known distributed coordination services such as Zookeeper and etcd, and there is an abstraction for them already called tooz: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/tooz/ Excerpts from Elena Ezhova's

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Cross-server locking for neutron server

2014-07-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Doug Wiegley's message of 2014-07-30 09:48:17 -0700: I'd have to look at the Neutron code, but I suspect that a simple strategy of issuing the UPDATE SQL statement with a WHERE condition that I¹m assuming the locking is for serializing code, whereas for what you describe

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [Solum] Stack update and raw_template backup

2014-07-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Anant Patil's message of 2014-07-29 23:21:05 -0700: On 28-Jul-14 22:37, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-07-28 07:25:24 -0700: On 26/07/14 00:04, Anant Patil wrote: When the stack is updated, a diff of updated template and current template can

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Cross-server locking for neutron server

2014-07-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2014-07-30 13:53:38 -0700: On 07/30/2014 12:21 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: Maybe I misunderstood your approach then. I though you were suggesting where a node performs an UPDATE record WHERE record = last_state_node_saw query and then checks the number of

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Saving the original raw template in the DB

2014-07-29 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ton Ngo's message of 2014-07-29 13:53:12 -0700: Hi everyone, The raw template saved in the DB used to be the original template that a user submits. With the recent fix for stack update, it now reflects the template that is actually deployed, so it may be different from

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Stack update and raw_template backup

2014-07-28 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-07-28 07:25:24 -0700: On 26/07/14 00:04, Anant Patil wrote: When the stack is updated, a diff of updated template and current template can be stored to optimize database. And perhaps Heat should have an API to retrieve this history of templates

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Use MariaDB by default on Fedora

2014-07-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from John Griffith's message of 2014-07-25 06:59:38 -0700: On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 7:38 AM, Kerrin, Michael michael.ker...@hp.com wrote: Coming back to this. I have updated the review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90134/ so that it passing CI for ubuntu (obviously failing

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat]Heat Db Model updates

2014-07-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-07-24 12:09:39 -0700: On 17/07/14 07:51, Ryan Brown wrote: On 07/17/2014 03:33 AM, Steven Hardy wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 12:31:05AM -0400, Zane Bitter wrote: On 16/07/14 23:48, Manickam, Kanagaraj wrote: SNIP *Resource* Status

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] The gate: a failure analysis

2014-07-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Thanks Matthew for the analysis. I think you missed something though. Right now the frustration is that unrelated intermittent bugs stop your presumably good change from getting in. Without gating, the result would be that even more bugs, many of them not intermittent at all, would get in.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Tripleo][Heat] Heat is not able to create swift cloud server

2014-07-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Peeyush Gupta's message of 2014-07-20 23:13:16 -0700: Hi all, I have been trying to set up tripleo using instack with RDO. Now, when deploying overcloud, the script is failing consistently with CREATE_FAILED error: + heat stack-create -f overcloud.yaml -P

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] os-refresh-config run frequency

2014-07-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dan Prince's message of 2014-07-20 11:51:27 -0700: On Thu, 2014-07-17 at 15:54 +0100, Michael Kerrin wrote: On Thursday 26 June 2014 12:20:30 Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Macdonald-Wallace, Matthew's message of 2014-06-26 04:13:31 -0700: Hi all

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] health maintenance in autoscaling groups

2014-07-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2014-07-18 09:12:21 -0700: Thomas Herve thomas.he...@enovance.com wrote on 07/17/2014 02:06:13 AM: There are 4 resources related to neutron load balancing. OS::Neutron::LoadBalancer is probably the least useful and the one you can *not* use, as

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] health maintenance in autoscaling groups

2014-07-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2014-07-18 10:38:32 -0700: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 07/18/2014 12:56:32 PM: Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2014-07-18 09:12:21 -0700: ... OK, let's work with these. My current view is this: supposing the Convergence

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-07-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2014-07-16 11:38:44 -0700: On 07/16/2014 11:59 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: On 07/16/2014 07:27 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: This is a really good point. As someone who has to deal with packaging issues constantly, it is odd to me that libvirt is one

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] os-refresh-config run frequency

2014-07-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Michael Kerrin's message of 2014-07-17 07:54:26 -0700: On Thursday 26 June 2014 12:20:30 Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Macdonald-Wallace, Matthew's message of 2014-06-26 04:13:31 -0700: Hi all, I've been working more and more with TripleO recently and whilst it does

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat]Heat Db Model updates

2014-07-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Manickam, Kanagaraj's message of 2014-07-16 20:48:04 -0700: Event Why uuid and id both used? The event uuid is the user-facing ID. However, we need to return events to the user in insertion order. So we use an auto-increment primary key, and order by that in 'heat event-list

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] health maintenance in autoscaling groups

2014-07-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2014-07-16 10:50:42 -0700: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 07/02/2014 01:54:49 PM: Excerpts from Qiming Teng's message of 2014-07-02 00:02:14 -0700: Just some random thoughts below ... On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 03:47:03PM -0400, Mike

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Cinder coverage

2014-07-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dan Prince's message of 2014-07-16 09:50:51 -0700: Hi TripleO! It would appear that we have no coverage in devtest which ensures that Cinder consistently works in the overcloud. As such the TripleO Cinder elements are often broken (as of today I can't fully use lio or tgt w/

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Asyncio and oslo.messaging

2014-07-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Victor Stinner's message of 2014-07-10 05:57:38 -0700: Le jeudi 10 juillet 2014, 14:48:04 Yuriy Taraday a écrit : I'm not suggesting that taskflow is useless and asyncio is better (apple vs oranges). I'm saying that using coroutines (asyncio) can improve ways we can use

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Asyncio and oslo.messaging

2014-07-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Yuriy Taraday's message of 2014-07-09 03:36:00 -0700: On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:31 PM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: I think clints response was likely better than what I can write here, but I'll add-on a few things, How do you write such code using

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Proposal to add Jon Paul Sullivan and Alexis Lee to core review team

2014-07-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Hello! I've been looking at the statistics, and doing a bit of review of the reviewers, and I think we have an opportunity to expand the core reviewer team in TripleO. We absolutely need the help, and I think these two individuals are well positioned to do that. I would like to draw your

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] stevedore plugins (and wait conditions)

2014-07-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Randall Burt's message of 2014-07-09 15:33:26 -0700: On Jul 9, 2014, at 4:38 PM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/07/14 17:17, Steven Hardy wrote: Regarding forcing deployers to make a one-time decision, I have a question re cost (money and performance) of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Asyncio and oslo.messaging

2014-07-08 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Victor Stinner's message of 2014-07-08 05:47:36 -0700: Hi Joshua, You asked a lot of questions. I will try to answer. Le lundi 7 juillet 2014, 17:41:34 Joshua Harlow a écrit : * Why focus on a replacement low level execution model integration instead of higher level

[openstack-dev] [Heat] [Marconi] Heat and concurrent signal processing needs some deep thought

2014-07-07 Thread Clint Byrum
I just noticed this review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90325/ And gave it some real thought. This will likely break any large scale usage of signals, and I think breaks the user expectations. Nobody expects to get a failure for a signal. It is one of those things that you fire and forget.

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Asyncio and oslo.messaging

2014-07-07 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2014-07-07 10:41:34 -0700: So I've been thinking how to respond to this email, and here goes (shields up!), First things first; thanks mark and victor for the detailed plan and making it visible to all. It's very nicely put together and the amount of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Upwards-compatibility for HOT

2014-07-07 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-07-07 14:25:50 -0700: With the Icehouse release we announced that there would be no further backwards-incompatible changes to HOT without a revision bump. However, I notice that we've already made an upward-incompatible change in Juno:

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][specs] Please stop doing specs for any changes in projects

2014-07-02 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dolph Mathews's message of 2014-07-01 10:02:13 -0700: The argument has been made in the past that small features will require correspondingly small specs. If there's a counter-argument to this example (a small feature requiring a relatively large amount of spec effort), I'd love

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Use MariaDB by default on Fedora

2014-06-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Michael Kerrin's message of 2014-06-30 02:16:07 -0700: I am trying to finish off https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90134 - percona xtradb cluster for debian based system. I have read into this thread that I can error out on Redhat systems when trying to install percona and

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][specs] Please stop doing specs for any changes in projects

2014-06-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Boris Pavlovic's message of 2014-06-30 14:11:08 -0700: Hi all, Specs are interesting idea, that may be really useful, when you need to discuss large topics: 1) work on API 2) Large refactoring 3) Large features 4) Performance, scale, ha, security issues that requires big

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] os-refresh-config run frequency

2014-06-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Macdonald-Wallace, Matthew's message of 2014-06-27 00:14:49 -0700: Hi Clint, -Original Message- From: Clint Byrum [mailto:cl...@fewbar.com] Sent: 26 June 2014 20:21 To: openstack-dev Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] os-refresh-config run frequency So

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Use MariaDB by default on Fedora

2014-06-27 Thread Clint Byrum
/2014 11:11 AM, Jan Provaznik wrote: On 06/25/2014 06:58 PM, Giulio Fidente wrote: On 06/16/2014 11:14 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Gregory Haynes's message of 2014-06-16 14:04:19 -0700: Excerpts from Jan Provazník's message of 2014-06-16 20:28:29 +: Hi, MariaDB

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] os-refresh-config run frequency

2014-06-26 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Macdonald-Wallace, Matthew's message of 2014-06-26 04:13:31 -0700: Hi all, I've been working more and more with TripleO recently and whilst it does seem to solve a number of problems well, I have found a couple of idiosyncrasies that I feel would be easy to address. My

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] rules for removal

2014-06-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mark McLoughlin's message of 2014-06-24 12:49:52 -0700: On Tue, 2014-06-24 at 09:51 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Monty Taylor's message of 2014-06-24 06:48:06 -0700: On 06/22/2014 02:49 PM, Duncan Thomas wrote: On 22 June 2014 14:41, Amrith Kumar amr

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] rules for removal

2014-06-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mark McLoughlin's message of 2014-06-22 00:39:29 -0700: The main point is that this is something worth addressing as a wider community rather than in individual reviews with a limited audience. And that doing it with a bit of humor might help take the sting out of it. Yes, a

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] rules for removal

2014-06-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Christopher Yeoh's message of 2014-06-22 18:46:59 -0700: On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 4:43 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/22/2014 09:41 AM, Amrith Kumar wrote: In addition to making changes to the hacking rules, why don't we mandate also that perceived problems

[openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] [Heat] Ceilometer aware people, please advise us on processing notifications..

2014-06-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Hello! I would like to turn your attention to this specification draft that I've written: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100012/1/specs/convergence-continuous-observer.rst Angus has suggested that perhaps Ceilometer is a better place to handle this. Can you please comment on the review, or can

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] rules for removal

2014-06-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2014-06-21 05:08:01 -0700: On 06/20/2014 09:26 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2014-06-20 11:07:39 -0700: H803 - First line of a commit message must *not* end in a period. This was mostly a response to an unreasonable core

Re: [openstack-dev] 答复: [Heat] fine grained quotas

2014-06-20 Thread Clint Byrum
better. Your idea? By the way, I do think that, the DoS problem is interesting in Heat. Can we have more discussion on that? Thanks again! -邮件原件- 发件人: Clint Byrum [mailto:cl...@fewbar.com] 发送时间: 2014年6月20日 6:33 收件人: openstack-dev 主题: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] fine

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] CI status update for this week

2014-06-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Charles Crouch's message of 2014-06-20 13:51:49 -0700: - Original Message - Not a great week for TripleO CI. We had 3 different failures related to: Nova [1]: we were using a deprecated config option Heat [2]: missing heat data obtained from the Heat CFN API

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] rules for removal

2014-06-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2014-06-20 11:07:39 -0700: After seeing a bunch of code changes to enforce new hacking rules, I'd like to propose dropping some of the rules we have. The overall patch series is here -

[openstack-dev] [Heat] fine grained quotas

2014-06-19 Thread Clint Byrum
I was made aware of the following blueprint today: http://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/add-quota-api-for-heat http://review.openstack.org/#/c/96696/14 Before this goes much further.. I want to suggest that this work be cancelled, even though the code looks excellent. The reason those

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] fine grained quotas

2014-06-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Randall Burt's message of 2014-06-19 15:21:14 -0700: On Jun 19, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: I was made aware of the following blueprint today: http://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/add-quota-api-for-heat http://review.openstack.org/#/c/96696

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Distributed locking

2014-06-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Matthew Booth's message of 2014-06-17 01:36:11 -0700: On 17/06/14 00:28, Joshua Harlow wrote: So this is a reader/write lock then? I have seen https://github.com/python-zk/kazoo/pull/141 come up in the kazoo (zookeeper python library) but there was a lack of a maintainer

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Backwards compatibility policy for our projects

2014-06-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tomas Sedovic's message of 2014-06-17 04:56:24 -0700: On 16/06/14 18:51, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Tomas Sedovic's message of 2014-06-16 09:19:40 -0700: All, After having proposed some changes[1][2] to tripleo-heat-templates[3], reviewers suggested adding

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Backwards compatibility policy for our projects

2014-06-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tomas Sedovic's message of 2014-06-16 09:19:40 -0700: All, After having proposed some changes[1][2] to tripleo-heat-templates[3], reviewers suggested adding a deprecation period for the merge.py script. While TripleO is an official OpenStack program, none of the projects

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Backwards compatibility policy for our projects

2014-06-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Duncan Thomas's message of 2014-06-16 09:41:49 -0700: On 16 June 2014 17:30, Jason Rist jr...@redhat.com wrote: I'm going to have to agree with Tomas here. There doesn't seem to be any reasonable expectation of backwards compatibility for the reasons he outlined, despite some

Re: [openstack-dev] revert hacking to 0.8 series

2014-06-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2014-06-16 05:15:54 -0700: Hacking 0.9 series was released pretty late for Juno. The entire check queue was flooded this morning with requirements proposals failing pep8 because of it (so at 6am EST we were waiting 1.5 hrs for a check node). The previous

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Backwards compatibility policy for our projects

2014-06-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Duncan Thomas's message of 2014-06-16 10:46:12 -0700: Hi Clint This looks like a special pleading here - all OpenStack projects (or 'program' if you prefer - I'm honestly not seeing a difference) have bits that they've written quickly and would rather not have to maintain, but

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Doug Wiegley's message of 2014-06-10 14:41:29 -0700: Of what use is a database that randomly delete rows? That is, in effect, what you’re allowing. The secrets are only useful when paired with a service. And unless I’m mistaken, there’s no undo. So you’re letting users

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Doug Wiegley's message of 2014-06-16 13:22:26 -0700: nobody is calling Barbican a database. It is a place to store Š did you at least feel a heavy sense of irony as you typed those two statements? ³It¹s not a database, it just stores things!² :-) Not at all, though I

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Use MariaDB by default on Fedora

2014-06-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Gregory Haynes's message of 2014-06-16 14:04:19 -0700: Excerpts from Jan Provazník's message of 2014-06-16 20:28:29 +: Hi, MariaDB is now included in Fedora repositories, this makes it easier to install and more stable option for Fedora installations. Currently MariaDB

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Carlos Garza's message of 2014-06-16 16:25:10 -0700: On Jun 16, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Doug Wiegley's message of 2014-06-16 13:22:26 -0700: nobody is calling Barbican a database. It is a place to store Š did you at least feel

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] How to avoid property revalidation?

2014-06-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-06-15 02:40:14 -0700: Hi all, So, I stumbled accross an issue while fixing up some tests, which is that AFAICS since Icehouse we continually revalidate every property every time they are accessed:

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Distributed locking

2014-06-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Matthew Booth's message of 2014-06-13 01:40:30 -0700: On 12/06/14 21:38, Joshua Harlow wrote: So just a few thoughts before going to far down this path, Can we make sure we really really understand the use-case where we think this is needed. I think it's fine that this

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Starting contributing to project

2014-06-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sławek Kapłoński's message of 2014-06-15 13:10:56 -0700: Hello, I want to start contributing to neutron project. I found bug which I want to try fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1204956 and I have question about workflow in such case. Should I clone neutron

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: Fwd: Debian people don't like bash8 as a project name (Bug#748383: ITP: bash8 -- bash script style guide checker)

2014-06-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2014-06-13 03:04:07 -0700: On 06/13/2014 06:53 AM, Morgan Fainberg wrote: Hi Thomas, I felt a couple sentences here were reasonable to add (more than “don’t care” from before). I understand your concerns here, and I totally get what you’re

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat]Heat template parameters encryption

2014-06-12 Thread Clint Byrum
I tend to agree with you Keith, securing Heat is Heat's problem. Securing Nova is nova's problem. And I too would expect that those with admin access to Heat, would not have admin access to Nova. That is why we split these things up with API's. I still prefer that users encrypt secrets on the

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate proposal - drop Postgresql configurations in the gate

2014-06-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2014-06-12 08:15:46 -0700: On 6/12/2014 9:38 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: On 6/12/14, 8:26 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: On Thu, Jun 12 2014, Sean Dague wrote: That's not cacthable in unit or functional tests? Not in an accurate manner, no. Keeping

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adam Harwell's message of 2014-06-10 12:04:41 -0700: So, it looks like any sort of validation on Deletes in Barbican is going to be a no-go. I'd like to propose a third option, which might be the safest route to take for LBaaS while still providing some of the convenience of

Re: [openstack-dev] [marconi] Reconsidering the unified API model

2014-06-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Janczuk, Tomasz's message of 2014-06-11 10:05:54 -0700: On 6/11/14, 2:43 AM, Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com wrote: On 06/10/2014 09:57 PM, Janczuk, Tomasz wrote: Using processes to isolate tenants is certainly possible. There is a range of isolation mechanisms that can be used,

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

2014-06-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jaromir Coufal's message of 2014-06-08 16:44:58 -0700: Hi, it looks that there is no more activity on the survey for mid-cycle dates so I went forward to evaluate it. I created a table view into the etherpad [0] and results are following: * option1 (Jul 28 - Aug 1): 27

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Vijay Venkatachalam's message of 2014-06-09 21:48:43 -0700: My vote is for option #2 (without the registration). It is simpler to start with this approach. How is delete handled though? Ex. What is the expectation when user attempts to delete a certificate/container which

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Douglas Mendizabal's message of 2014-06-09 16:08:02 -0700: Hi all, I’m strongly in favor of having immutable TLS-typed containers, and very much opposed to storing every revision of changes done to a container. I think that storing versioned containers would add too much

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-08 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Eichberger, German's message of 2014-06-06 15:52:54 -0700: Jorge + John, I am most concerned with a user changing his secret in barbican and then the LB trying to update and causing downtime. Some users like to control when the downtime occurs. Couldn't you allow a user to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Mid cycle meetup

2014-06-07 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Devananda van der Veen's message of 2014-06-06 12:04:08 -0700: I have just announced the Ironic mid-cycle in Beaverton, co-located with Nova. That's the main one for Ironic. However, there are many folks working on both TripleO and Ironic, so I wouldn't be surprised if there is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat]Heat template parameters encryption

2014-06-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-06-05 02:23:40 -0700: On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 12:17:07AM +, Randall Burt wrote: On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:05 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-06-04 16:19:05 -0700: On 04/06/14 15:58

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic bare metal installation issue]

2014-06-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from 严超's message of 2014-06-03 21:23:25 -0700: Hi, All : I've deployed my ironic following this link: http://ma.ttwagner.com/bare-metal-deploys-with-devstack-and-ironic/ , all steps is completed. Now one of my node-show provision_state is active. But why is this

Re: [openstack-dev] [Spam] [heat] Resource action API

2014-06-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from yang zhang's message of 2014-06-04 00:01:41 -0700: Hi all, Now heat only supports suspending/resuming a whole stack, all the resources of the stack will be suspended/resumed,but sometime we just want to suspend or resume only a part of resources in the stack, so I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Spam] Re: [Spam] [heat] Resource action API

2014-06-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from yang zhang's message of 2014-06-04 01:14:37 -0700: From: cl...@fewbar.com To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 00:09:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Spam] [heat] Resource action API Excerpts from yang zhang's message of 2014-06-04

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat]Heat template parameters encryption

2014-06-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-06-04 16:19:05 -0700: On 04/06/14 15:58, Vijendar Komalla wrote: Hi Devs, I have submitted an WIP review (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97900/) for Heat parameters encryption blueprint

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic workflow question]

2014-06-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from 严超's message of 2014-06-04 20:34:01 -0700: BTW, If I run sudo ./bin/disk-image-create -a amd64 ubuntu deploy-ironic -o /tmp/deploy-ramdisk-ubuntu, What is the username/password for image deploy-ramdisk-ubuntu ? There isn't one. You can write an element if you want to include a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Short term scaling strategies for large Heat stacks

2014-06-02 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2014-06-02 14:37:25 -0700: On 31/05/14 07:01, Zane Bitter wrote: On 29/05/14 19:52, Clint Byrum wrote: update-failure-recovery === This is a blueprint I believe Zane is working on to land in Juno. It will allow us to retry

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