Re: [openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

2015-03-10 Thread Gabriel Hurley
Blocking the acceptance of new projects seems punitive and against the spirit of the big tent. Classification (tagging) can be done at any point, and is hardly fixed in stone. You can refine tags as needed. To put it harshly: it is a failure of both leadership and process to have stripped out

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-14 Thread Gabriel Hurley
As the former Horizon PTL, I have a great respect for the importance of the contributions the distro maintainers/developers make to Horizon and OpenStack as a whole. From how many bugs the distros manage to find, to their diligence in vetting the software that we as Horizon developers provide,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-12 Thread Gabriel Hurley
Two things of note, having been doing heavy javascript development over the past couple years: 1) NPM actually resolves conflicts in a dependency tree. Unlike Python, it can ensure that if different packages declare conflicting versions, each one gets the version it requested. And conflicting

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Cookie collision between Horizon Stacktach

2014-10-31 Thread Gabriel Hurley
I have no familiarity with stacktach, but it sounds like it's trampling data on the sessionid cookie (even if it's also setting a beaker.session.stacktach cookie). Your options include running the two at different domains/subdomains (and specifying the subdomain as the cookie domain; that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] [Devstack]

2014-10-24 Thread Gabriel Hurley
SQLite doesn't introduce any additional dependencies, memcached requires installation of memcached (admittedly it's not hard on most distros, but it *is* yet another step) and in most cases the installation of another python module to interface with it. Memcached might be a good choice for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] [Devstack]

2014-10-23 Thread Gabriel Hurley
All in all this is been a long time coming. The cookie-based option was useful as a batteries-included, simplest-case scenario. Moving to SQLite is a reasonable second choice since most systems Horizon might be deployed on support sqlite out of the box. I would make a couple notes: 1)

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Horizon] CORS and Federation

2014-09-16 Thread Gabriel Hurley
This is generally the right plan. The hard parts are in getting people to deploy it correctly and securely, and handling fallback cases for lack of browser support, etc. What we really don't want to do is to encourage people to set Access-Control-Allow-Origin: * type headers or other such

Re: [openstack-dev] [Designate][Horizon][Tempest][DevStack] Supporting code for incubated projects

2014-09-09 Thread Gabriel Hurley
I would also like to add that incubated != integrated. There's no telling how long a project may stay in incubation or how many changes it may undergo before it's deemed ready (see David's reasoning around client changes during RC's). While the Horizon team has always made every effort to work

Re: [openstack-dev] Kerberization of Horizon (kerbhorizon?)

2014-06-04 Thread Gabriel Hurley
I've implemented Kerberos (via Apache) + Django once before, and yes, taking this as pseudo-code you're on the right track. Obviously the devil is in the details and you'll work out the particulars as you go. The most important bit (obviously) is just making absolutely sure your REMOTE_USER

Re: [openstack-dev] Kerberization of Horizon (kerbhorizon?)

2014-06-04 Thread Gabriel Hurley
[mailto:ayo...@redhat.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 12:43 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Kerberization of Horizon (kerbhorizon?) On 06/04/2014 03:10 PM, Gabriel Hurley wrote: I've implemented Kerberos (via Apache) + Django once before, and yes, taking

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][infra] Plan for the splitting of Horizon into two repositories

2014-05-29 Thread Gabriel Hurley
Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding, but those all look like repositories that are strictly tracking upstreams. They're not maintained by the Horizon/OpenStack developers whatsoever. Is this intentional/necessary? - Gabriel -Original Message- From: Anita Kuno

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][infra] Plan for the splitting of Horizon into two repositories

2014-05-28 Thread Gabriel Hurley
It's sort of a silly point, but as someone who would likely consume the split-off package outside of the OpenStack context, please give it a proper name instead of django_horizon. The module only works in Django, the name adds both clutter and confusion, and it's against the Django community's

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] RFC - Suggestion for switching from Less to Sass (Bootstrap 3 Sass support)

2014-02-05 Thread Gabriel Hurley
I would imagine the downstream distros won't have the same problems with Ruby as they did with Node.js from a dependency standpoint, though it still doesn't jive with the community's all-Python bias. My real concern, though, is anyone who may have extended the Horizon stylesheets using the

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][nova] Re: Hierarchicical Multitenancy Discussion

2014-02-04 Thread Gabriel Hurley
Yes this is one approach if keystone really wants to extend domains to work this way, but I think this is more complex than just using nested projects. Having domains contain domains containing projects is less intuitive than projects all the way down. It's worth mentioning that at the

Re: [openstack-dev] Can somebody help me to determine if an URL validation in python-glanceclient horizon projects is safe

2014-01-20 Thread Gabriel Hurley
Adding this to glanceclient is probably acceptable since the worst abuse of it would be to disrupt a user's local machine until they terminated the process, but adding this to Horizon is a no-go. Django removed the verify_exists option from URLField in Django 1.5 for very good reasons. Here's

Re: [openstack-dev] Re-using Horizon bits in OpenDaylight

2014-01-10 Thread Gabriel Hurley
I've also used the core Horizon bits for dashboards other than the OpenStack dashboard. I can't speak for any current bugs you may run into, but by-and-large the ability to create arbitrary dashboards, tables, workflows, etc. to interact with RESTful APIs works perfectly without the OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Changes to keystone-core!

2014-01-07 Thread Gabriel Hurley
Martinelli; Jamie Lennox; David Stanek; Andy Smith; Gabriel Hurley; Joe Heck; Devin Carlen Subject: [keystone] Changes to keystone-core! Hello everyone! We've been talking this for a long while, and we finally have a bunch of changes to make to keystone-core all at once. A few people have moved

Re: [openstack-dev] Horizon and Tuskar-UI codebase merge

2013-12-18 Thread Gabriel Hurley
From my experience, directly adding incubated projects to the main Horizon codebase prior to graduation has been fraught with peril. That said, the closer they can be together prior to the graduation merge, the better. I like the idea of these types of projects being under the OpenStack

[openstack-dev] Project-Scoped Service Catalog Entries

2013-12-16 Thread Gabriel Hurley
I've run into a use case that doesn't currently seem to have a great solution: Let's say my users want to use a top-of-stack OpenStack project such as Heat, Trove, etc. that I don't currently support in my deployment. There's absolutely no reason these services can't live happily in a VM

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Nominations to Horizon Core

2013-12-10 Thread Gabriel Hurley
+1 on Tatiana Mazur being added to Core. I'm also okay with cleaning out the Core list. I considered doing it myself last cycle since none of those folks are involved anymore, but figured I'd leave them as a posthumous honor. ;-) I think now's a good time to trim it down. Glad I didn't make

[openstack-dev] [Horizon] Abdicating the PTL Position

2013-10-31 Thread Gabriel Hurley
who can devote their full attention and energy to it. I will still be around and engaged (though not in Hong Kong). I'll catch you all next time around. All the best, - Gabriel Hurley ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Abdicating the PTL Position

2013-10-31 Thread Gabriel Hurley
Karlson endre.karl...@gmail.commailto:endre.karl...@gmail.com Hey, I'm just curious. You quitting the PTL position to focus on Nebula efforts or ? 2013/10/31 Gabriel Hurley gabriel.hur...@nebula.commailto:gabriel.hur...@nebula.com Hi all, It saddens me to say that for a mix of reasons I have

Re: [openstack-dev] Does openstack have a notification system that will let us know when a server changes state ?

2013-10-18 Thread Gabriel Hurley
The answer is sort of. Most projects (including Nova) publish to an RPC notifications channel (e.g. in rabbitMQ or whichever you use in your deployment). This is how Ceilometer gets some of its data. There is common code for connecting to the notification queue in Oslo (the rpc and notifier

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon] django-openstack-auth with Django 1.6

2013-10-17 Thread Gabriel Hurley
FWIW, Django 1.6 is not officially supported with Horizon yet. That aside, pickle is generally a security risk (it's equivalent to eval), hence the move away from it in Django. We'll want to see what we can do about making things properly serializable with the JSON serializer in Icehouse. It

[openstack-dev] TC Candidacy

2013-10-07 Thread Gabriel Hurley
Board and the TC, coordination within OpenStack, and more, but I won't go into those now. Hopefully I've proven myself thus far to be a considered and well-reasoned member of the TC. It would be my honor to consider doing the good work of OpenStack. Thank you, - Gabriel Hurley

Re: [openstack-dev] core reviewers needed

2013-10-03 Thread Gabriel Hurley
Hi Kaiwai, First, the bad news: 1. The Horizon release candidate has already been cut, so for Havana we're only considering release-blocking bugs at this point (and even those have to meet a high bar to warrant a new release candidate). The feature freeze deadline was almost a month ago. 2.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Tuskar] [UI] Introducing POC Wireframes

2013-09-25 Thread Gabriel Hurley
more. If you still have any concerns, let me know I will try to be more explicit. -- Jarda On 2013/25/09 02:03, Gabriel Hurley wrote: Really digging a lot of that. Particularly the inter-rack/inter-node communication stuff around page 36ish or so. I’m concerned about using the term “Class”. Maybe

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Ceilometer Alarm management page

2013-09-24 Thread Gabriel Hurley
3. There is a thought about watching correlation of multiple alarm histories in one Chart (either Alarm Histories, or the real statistics the Alarm is defined by). Do you think it will be needed? Any real life examples you have in mind? I think the first use case is to debug combined

Re: [openstack-dev] [Tuskar] [UI] Introducing POC Wireframes

2013-09-24 Thread Gabriel Hurley
Really digging a lot of that. Particularly the inter-rack/inter-node communication stuff around page 36ish or so. I’m concerned about using the term “Class”. Maybe it’s just me as a developer, but I couldn’t think of a more generic, less inherently meaningful word there. I read through it and

[openstack-dev] [Horizon] PTL Candidacy

2013-09-23 Thread Gabriel Hurley
I hereby declare my candidacy for the Horizon PTL position. My current qualifications: * PTL for the Grizzly and Havana cycles. * Core developer on Horizon since Essex, and Keystone core since Folsom. * Primary architect of the existing Horizon framework. * Core developer for the Django

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Bootstrap 3 update and problems with lesscpy

2013-09-18 Thread Gabriel Hurley
I'm also strongly against reverting the move to lesscpy. As David said, that change was highly-requested by the downstream distros and other folks packaging Horizon in various ways. Since there's no evidence that lesscpy does not intend to support bootstrap 3 in a reasonable timeframe,

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][horizon]Backend filtering in Keystone

2013-08-28 Thread Gabriel Hurley
28, 2013 1:58 AM To: Gabriel Hurley Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List; Dolph Mathews; Adam Young Subject: [keystone][horizon]Backend filtering in Keystone Hi Gabriel, Following up on our discussions on filtering and pagination, here's where we stand: 1) We have a patch ready to go into H

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Modal form without redirect

2013-08-28 Thread Gabriel Hurley
If you look at the code in the post()[1] method of the base workflow view you'll note that a response to a successful workflow POST is always a redirect[2] (caveat for when it's specifically adding data back to a field, which isn't relevant here). The reason for this is that in general when

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Pagination

2013-08-13 Thread Gabriel Hurley
I have been one of the earliest, loudest, and most consistent PITA's about pagination, so I probably oughta speak up. I would like to state three facts: 1. Marker + limit (e.g. forward-only) pagination is horrific for building a user interface. 2. Pagination doesn't scale. 3. OpenStack's APIs

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] how to add unmerged dependency to test-requirements

2013-08-01 Thread Gabriel Hurley
The short answer is: you can test and develop it locally but you cannot push it upstream until you get the dependencies released. As much as that may be frustrating, it prevents an enormous amount of pain which OpenStack has gone through in the past when things fail to be released as expected.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Long-term, how do we make heat image/flavor name agnostic?

2013-07-18 Thread Gabriel Hurley
Generally spot-on with what Adrian said, but I have one question from that email: Mappings is one of the high level concepts in CFN that I think can be completely eliminated with auto-discovery. What do you mean by this? What kind of autodiscovery, and where? I'm all for eliminating mappings

[openstack-dev] [Heat] Long-term, how do we make heat image/flavor name agnostic?

2013-07-17 Thread Gabriel Hurley
I spent a bunch of time working with and understanding Heat in H2, and I find myself with one overarching question which I wonder if anyone's thought about or even answered already... At present, the CloudFormation template format is the first-class means of doing things in Heat.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Horizon] Is there precedent for validating user input on data types to APIs?

2013-07-14 Thread Gabriel Hurley
I responded on the ticket as well, but here’s my take: An error like this should absolutely be caught before it raises a database error. A useful, human-friendly error message should be returned via the API. Any uncaught exception is a bug. On the other side of the equation, anything using the

Re: [openstack-dev] Ceilometer visualization in Horizon

2013-07-09 Thread Gabriel Hurley
Brooklyn Chen, Julie Pichon and others have already been putting in a lot of effort in this area. I suggest you check out https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/ceilometer and sync up with them if you're interested in proceeding. - Gabriel -Original Message- From: