Re: [openstack-dev] Tricky questions - 1/2 Quantum Network Object

2013-10-14 Thread Marco Fornaro
Hi Gong, Thanks so much for your answers Just one more question: you wrote You can create networks with just one subnet, but the vlan id will run out soon if vlan is used. Sorry but: how can the Vlan ID run out soon?...is it really possible to finish them? Best Regards Marco From:

Re: [openstack-dev] Tricky questions - 1/2 Quantum Network Object

2013-10-14 Thread Yongsheng Gong
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Marco Fornaro marco.forn...@huawei.comwrote: Hi Gong, ** ** Thanks so much for your answers ** ** Just one more question: you wrote “You can create networks with just one subnet, but the vlan id will run out soon if vlan is used.” Sorry

Re: [openstack-dev] [Hyper-V] Havana status

2013-10-14 Thread Thierry Carrez
Joe Gordon wrote: [...] This sounds like a very myopic solution to the issue you originally raised, and I don't think it will solve the underlying issues. Taking a step back, you originally raised a concern about how we prioritize reviews with the havana-rc-potential tag. [...] I'm with

Re: [openstack-dev] Tricky questions - 1/2 Quantum Network Object

2013-10-14 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Hi Marco, At least two of your questions clearly hint at the dichotomy between subnet and network, which appear to be redundant. A multi-homing use case on a single network is a potential use case for this, albeit a very limited one, since one might argue that in a cloud scenario instead of

[openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Havana RC2 available

2013-10-14 Thread Thierry Carrez
Good morning, Due to various issues detected in RC1 testing, we just created a new Havana release candidate for OpenStack Metering (Ceilometer). You can find the RC2 tarball and see the list of fixed bugs at: https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/havana/havana-rc2 This is hopefully the last Havana

[openstack-dev] Incubation Request for OpenStack UX

2013-10-14 Thread Jaromir Coufal
Dear Technical Committee Members and OpenStack Community, after previous brainstorming, suggestions and discussions in community, we came out with OpenStack User Experience incubation proposal [0] and by this e-mail we would like to officially apply for incubation. The official application is

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [tempest] [ceilometer] Looking for clarification on the diagnostics API

2013-10-14 Thread Bob Ball
I'm happy with that approach - again I've not seen any discussions about how this should be done. I've added [tempest] and [ceilometer] tags so we can hopefully get input from the guys involved. Bob From: Gary Kotton [mailto:gkot...@vmware.com] Sent: 13 October 2013 05:21 To: OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for OpenStack UX

2013-10-14 Thread Thierry Carrez
Jaromir Coufal wrote: Dear Technical Committee Members and OpenStack Community, after previous brainstorming, suggestions and discussions in community, we came out with OpenStack User Experience incubation proposal [0] and by this e-mail we would like to officially apply for incubation. The

[openstack-dev] [novaclient]should administrator can see all servers of all tenants by default?

2013-10-14 Thread Lingxian Kong
Hi there: When I perform some operations on servers with administrator role, using CLI, I met tha same strage behavior as described: https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+bug/1050901. I'm afraid the Glance has the same issue. What I want to figure out is, what is the expected behavior

[openstack-dev] [Murano] Team meeting reminder - October 14

2013-10-14 Thread Alexander Tivelkov
Hi! This is just a reminder about the regular meeting of Murano-team in IRC. The meeting will be held in #openstack-meeting-alt channel at 8am Pacific. The complete agenda of the meeting is available here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda -- Kind Regards, Alexander

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for OpenStack UX

2013-10-14 Thread Jaromir Coufal
Hey Thierry, thanks for your notes. Few comments are following inline. On 2013/14/10 11:00, Thierry Carrez wrote: Jaromir Coufal wrote: Dear Technical Committee Members and OpenStack Community, after previous brainstorming, suggestions and discussions in community, we came out with OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] Change I3e080c30: Fix resource length in project_user_quotas table for Havana?

2013-10-14 Thread Joshua Hesketh
Rackspace Australia On 10/12/13 12:35 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 10/10/2013 11:15 PM, Joshua Hesketh wrote: Hi there, I've been reviewing this change which is currently proposed for master and I think it needs to be considered for the next Havana RC. Change I3e080c30: Fix resource length

Re: [openstack-dev] [Swift] container forwarding/cluster federation blueprint

2013-10-14 Thread Deliot, Eric
Hi, With a global cluster, you can have your replicas stored in different regions within your cluster whereas container forwarding is about storing all objects within a container in a different swift cluster than the one you contacted in the first place. These two clusters could well be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Hyper-V] Havana status

2013-10-14 Thread Alessandro Pilotti
On 14.10.2013, at 11:18, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Joe Gordon wrote: [...] This sounds like a very myopic solution to the issue you originally raised, and I don't think it will solve the underlying issues. Taking a step back, you originally raised a concern about how

Re: [openstack-dev] [Hyper-V] Havana status

2013-10-14 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 11:58:22 + Alessandro Pilotti apilo...@cloudbasesolutions.com wrote: As a an example we have a couple of critical bugs for Havana with their fix already under review that nobody cared even to triage, let alone review. Anyone can join the nova-bugs team on launchpad

Re: [openstack-dev] [Hyper-V] Havana status

2013-10-14 Thread Russell Bryant
On 10/14/2013 04:10 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Joe Gordon wrote: [...] This sounds like a very myopic solution to the issue you originally raised, and I don't think it will solve the underlying issues. Taking a step back, you originally raised a concern about how we prioritize reviews with

[openstack-dev] Ceilometer

2013-10-14 Thread Afef MDHAFFAR
Hi all, I tried to install openstack via devstack, while including ceilometer. The install of openstack is ok. The dashborad is accessible, and everything seem to be fine. However, I am not able to launch ceilometer services. For instance ceilometer-collector returns the following error, that

[openstack-dev] [Climate] Nova dependencies in Climate

2013-10-14 Thread Dina Belova
Hello everyone! Guys, now we have Nova dependency in Climate like: -f http://tarballs.openstack.org/nova/nova-master.tar.gz#egg=nova-master nova=master That was done to implement Nova-based scheduler filter for physical reservations and store its code in Climate project itself. Now Climate is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Nova dependencies in Climate

2013-10-14 Thread Julien Danjou
On Mon, Oct 14 2013, Dina Belova wrote: That's why we have the following question: do you think it's normal to have such dependency there, or it will be better to create separate repo like climate-filters and put there any filters and their dependencies? What can you advise? We do this in

Re: [openstack-dev] [novaclient]should administrator can see all servers of all tenants by default?

2013-10-14 Thread Ben Nemec
I agree that this needs to be fixed. It's very counterintuitive, if nothing else (which is also my argument against requiring all-tenants for admin users in the first place). The only question for me is whether to fix it in novaclient or in Nova itself. The comments on the review from the

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler meeting and Icehouse Summit

2013-10-14 Thread Day, Phil
Hi Folks, In the weekly scheduler meeting we've been trying to pull together a consolidated list of Summit sessions so that we can find logical groupings and make a more structured set of sessions for the limited time available at the summit.

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] VPNaaS questions

2013-10-14 Thread Paul Michali
See @PCM in-line… PCM (Paul Michali) MAIL p...@cisco.com IRC pcm_ (irc.freenode.net) TW @pmichali On Oct 12, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Eugene Nikanorov enikano...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi folks, I was wondering in general how providers can customize service features, based on their

Re: [openstack-dev] [scheduler] APIs for Smart Resource Placement - Updated Instance Group Model and API extension model - WIP Draft

2013-10-14 Thread Yathiraj Udupi (yudupi)
Hi Mike, I read your email where you expressed concerns regarding create-time dependencies, and I agree they are valid concerns to be addressed. But like we all agree, as a starting point, we are just focusing on the APIs for now, and will leave that aside as implementation details to be

[openstack-dev] [tripleo][infra] testing nodepool against tripleo clouds

2013-10-14 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all! Currently, nodepool does not work against the two TripleO clouds (well, I'm trying against the grizzly POC cloud first) So far, the problems have been combinations of bugs/assumptions in nodepool, along with at least one actual config issue in the TripleO cloud. I thought I'd share info

Re: [openstack-dev] [scheduler] Policy Model

2013-10-14 Thread Yathiraj Udupi (yudupi)
Mike, Like I proposed in my previous email about the model and the APIs, About the InstanceGroupPolicy, why not leave it as is, and introduce a new abstract model class called Policy. The InstanceGroupPolicy will be a reference to a Policy object saved separately. and the policy field will

[openstack-dev] [infra] Meeting Tuesday October 15th at 19:00 UTC

2013-10-14 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
The OpenStack Infrastructure (Infra) team is hosting our weekly meeting tomorrow, Tuesday October 15th, at 19:00 UTC in #openstack-meeting Meeting agenda available here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting (anyone is welcome to to add agenda items) Everyone interested in

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler meeting and Icehouse Summit

2013-10-14 Thread Alex Glikson
IMO, the three themes make sense, but I would suggest waiting until the submission deadline and discuss at the following IRC meeting on the 22nd. Maybe there will be more relevant proposals to consider. Regards, Alex P.S. I plan to submit a proposal regarding scheduling policies, and maybe

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][oslo] Trusted Messaging Question

2013-10-14 Thread Simo Sorce
On Fri, 2013-10-11 at 17:49 +, Sangeeta Singh wrote: Hi, I had some questions about the trusted messaging project. 1. During your design did you consider a kerberos style ticketing service for KDS? If yes what were the reasons against it? 2. The

Re: [openstack-dev] baremetal nova boot issue

2013-10-14 Thread Ravikanth Samprathi
Thank you for your help and pointers Rob. I followed instructions from the baremetal wiki and i am lost in the last step. First: I setup pxelinux.cfg/default to point to my-initrd and my-vmlinuz for pxe boot. My baremetal node goes into this prompt: (initramfs) I dont know if the above is

Re: [openstack-dev] baremetal nova boot issue

2013-10-14 Thread Clint Byrum
No, I said if your machines are not IPMI, and are not Tilera based, then they will not work. If they are IPMI, they will work. Excerpts from Ravikanth Samprathi's message of 2013-10-14 11:42:31 -0700: You mean there is no power driver for anything other than tilera? I am using supermicro

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][infra] testing nodepool against tripleo clouds

2013-10-14 Thread Monty Taylor
Updated list of outstanding reviews nodepool needs for happy making: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51687/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51644/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51641/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49833/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49639/

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Announcing a new task scheduling and orchestration service for OpenStack

2013-10-14 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Hi OpenStackers, I am proud to announce the official launch of the Mistral project. At Mirantis we have a team to start contributing to the project right away. We invite anybody interested in task service state management to join the initiative. Mistral is a new OpenStack service designed for

[openstack-dev] Contract Opportunity in Bay Area, CA

2013-10-14 Thread Mathew Zacharias
Hi, *We are an executive search firm based in Fremont CA and are currently looking to help one of our Direct Client fill some open position which seems to be a good match with your profile. We would appreciate if you could review the same and let us know your interest to pursue with the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Announcing a new task scheduling and orchestration service for OpenStack

2013-10-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Renat Akhmerov's message of 2013-10-14 12:40:28 -0700: Hi OpenStackers, I am proud to announce the official launch of the Mistral project. At Mirantis we have a team to start contributing to the project right away. We invite anybody interested in task service state

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Announcing a new task scheduling and orchestration service for OpenStack

2013-10-14 Thread Stan Lagun
Why exactly aren't you just calling this Convection and/or collaborating with the developers who came up with it? We do actively collaborate with TaskFlow/StateManagement team who are also the authors of Convection proposal. This is a joint project and we invite you and other developers to join

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Announcing a new task scheduling and orchestration service for OpenStack

2013-10-14 Thread Georgy Okrokvertskhov
Hi Clint, This is done in collaboration with Joshua Harlow and the task flow team who come up with the original proposal. We had a hangout session where we defined a project scope and its relationship with task flow library. We cant use name Convection as this is a trademark owned by Microsoft.

Re: [openstack-dev] Keystone Apache2 Installation Question

2013-10-14 Thread Adam Young
On 10/09/2013 08:43 PM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: Thanks for the docs. It looks like I got through all of that already, its the authentication module part that is throwing me. I managed to manually get a token by putting mod_krb5 on Location /keystone/main/v2.0/tokens and using curl against it,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Announcing a new task scheduling and orchestration service for OpenStack

2013-10-14 Thread Joshua Harlow
+2 More collaboration the better :) From: Stan Lagun sla...@mirantis.commailto:sla...@mirantis.com Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Monday, October 14, 2013 1:20 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List

[openstack-dev] nova boot command issue

2013-10-14 Thread Ravikanth Samprathi
I have setup openstack according to the baremetal wiki. The hostname on which i am running baremetal openstack controller is ''os'' 1 I have this baremetal-flavor: = | 9 | my-baremetal-flavor | 1024 | 10 | 0 | | 1 | 1.0 | True |

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Announcing a new task scheduling and orchestration service for OpenStack

2013-10-14 Thread Joshua Harlow
So from my understanding of the whole situation. Convection doesn't exist (at the moment), and I think mistral will be an implementation of what u call convection. Its planned to be along the lines of convection, in fact I think we should move https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Convection to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software orchestration proposal for workflows

2013-10-14 Thread Thomas Spatzier
Steven Dake sd...@redhat.com wrote on 11.10.2013 21:02:38: From: Steven Dake sd...@redhat.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, Date: 11.10.2013 21:04 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software orchestration proposal for workflows On 10/11/2013

Re: [openstack-dev] [novaclient]should administrator can see all servers of all tenants by default?

2013-10-14 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 10:37:10 -0500 Ben Nemec openst...@nemebean.com wrote: I agree that this needs to be fixed. It's very counterintuitive, if nothing else (which is also my argument against requiring all-tenants for admin users in the first place). The only question for me is whether to

Re: [openstack-dev] Keystone Apache2 Installation Question

2013-10-14 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Hi Adam, I was trying to get both kerberos negotiate and kerberos basic auth working. Negotiate does not seem to be supported by any of the clients so I think it will be a fair amount of work to get working. /keystone/main/v2.0/tokens can't support having an apache auth module on it, it seems

[openstack-dev] [Swift] team meeting

2013-10-14 Thread John Dickinson
This week's team meeting is cancelled since most of the active contributors will all be together in Austin for the Swift hackathon during the regularly scheduled meeting time. Regular bi-weekly meetings will resume on October 30 at 1900UTC in #openstack-meeting --John signature.asc

[openstack-dev] [Nova] UpgradeImpact commit message tag

2013-10-14 Thread Russell Bryant
I was talking to Dan Smith today about a patch series I was starting to work on. These changes affect people doing continuous deployment, so we came up with the idea of tagging the commits with UpgradeImpact, similar to how we use DocImpact for changes that affect docs. This seems like a good

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] UpgradeImpact commit message tag

2013-10-14 Thread Robert Collins
I think it's good to call that out, but also perhaps there should be some discussion with such deployers such changes? -Rob On 15 October 2013 12:32, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: I was talking to Dan Smith today about a patch series I was starting to work on. These changes affect

Re: [openstack-dev] [novaclient]should administrator can see all servers of all tenants by default?

2013-10-14 Thread Caitlin Bestler
On 10/14/2013 8:37 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: I agree that this needs to be fixed. It's very counterintuitive, if nothing else (which is also my argument against requiring all-tenants for admin users in the first place). The only question for me is whether to fix it in novaclient or in Nova itself.

[openstack-dev] [Heat] Plugin packaging

2013-10-14 Thread Sam Alba
Hello, I am working on a Heat plugin that makes a new resource available in a template. It's working great and I will opensource it this week if I can get the packaging right... Right now, I am linking my module.py file in /usr/lib/heat to get it loaded when heat-engine starts. But according to

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] CD Cloud MVP2 completed

2013-10-14 Thread Robert Collins
That is, we're now deploying a trunk KVM based OpenStack using heat + nova baremetal on a continuous basis into the test rack we have *and* there are users setup on it for any TripleO ATC that want's an account, and networking is setup: you can access instances over the internet, and the endpoint

Re: [openstack-dev] Change I3e080c30: Fix resource length in project_user_quotas table for Havana?

2013-10-14 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
On Oct 14, 2013, at 3:38 AM, Joshua Hesketh joshua.hesk...@rackspace.com wrote: Rackspace Australia On 10/12/13 12:35 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 10/10/2013 11:15 PM, Joshua Hesketh wrote: Hi there, I've been reviewing this change which is currently proposed for master and I think

Re: [openstack-dev] [novaclient]should administrator can see all servers of all tenants by default?

2013-10-14 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Caitlin Bestler caitlin.best...@nexenta.com wrote: On 10/14/2013 8:37 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: I agree that this needs to be fixed. It's very counterintuitive, if nothing else (which is also my argument against requiring all-tenants for admin users in the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] UpgradeImpact commit message tag

2013-10-14 Thread Morgan Fainberg
I think this could be a significant win for all projects (I'd like to see it adopted beyond nova). This should help ferret out the upgrade impacts that sometimes sneak up on us (and cause issues later on). +1 from me. Cheers, Morgan Fainberg IRC: morganfainberg On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 4:51

Re: [openstack-dev] Keystone Apache2 Installation Question

2013-10-14 Thread Simo Sorce
On Mon, 2013-10-14 at 14:31 -0700, Fox, Kevin M wrote: Hi Adam, I was trying to get both kerberos negotiate and kerberos basic auth working. Negotiate does not seem to be supported by any of the clients so I think it will be a fair amount of work to get working.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software orchestration proposal for workflows

2013-10-14 Thread Lakshminaraya Renganarayana
Hi Angus, Thanks for detailed reply. I have a few comments that I have written below in the context. Angus Salkeld asalk...@redhat.com wrote on 10/13/2013 06:40:01 PM: - INPUTS: all the attributes that are consumed/used/read by that resource (currently, we have Ref, GetAttrs that can give

Re: [openstack-dev] [scheduler] Policy Model

2013-10-14 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Consider the example at https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1nridrUUwNaDrHQoGwSJ_KXYC7ik09wUuV3vXw1MyvlY We could indeed have distinct policy objects. But I think they are policy *uses*, not policy *definitions* --- which is why is prefer to give them less prominent lifecycles. In the example

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystoneclient] self-signed keystone not accessible from other services

2013-10-14 Thread Jamie Lennox
On Mon, 2013-10-14 at 18:36 -0700, Bhuvan Arumugam wrote: Just making sure i'm not the only one facing this problem. https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1239894 Yep, we thought this may raise some issues but insecure by default was just not acceptable. keystoneclient v0.4.0 was released

Re: [openstack-dev] [scheduler] APIs for Smart Resource Placement - Updated Instance Group Model and API extension model - WIP Draft

2013-10-14 Thread Mike Spreitzer
That came through beautifully formatted to me, but it looks much worse in the archive. I'm going to use crude email tech here, so that I know it won't lose anything in handling. Yathiraj Udupi (yudupi) yud...@cisco.com wrote on 10/14/2013 01:17:47 PM: I read your email where you expressed

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion

2013-10-14 Thread Sumit Naiksatam
Thanks all for attending the IRC meeting today for the Neutron advanced services discussion. We have an etherpad for this: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NeutronAdvancedServices It was also felt that we need to have more ongoing discussions, so we will have follow up meetings. We will try to

[openstack-dev] [Nova] What validation feature is necessary for Nova v3 API?

2013-10-14 Thread Kenichi Oomichi
Hi, I'd like to know what validation feature is really needed for Nova v3 API, and I hope this mail will be a kick-off of brain-storming for it. Introduction I have submitted a blueprint nova-api-validation-fw[1]. The purpose is comprehensive validation of API input parameters. 32% of Nova v3

Re: [openstack-dev] Are you coming to linux.conf.au 2014?

2013-10-14 Thread Michael Still
To follow up on this, I've decided to give running a meetup a go. The details are at http://sites.rcbops.com/lca2014_openstack/?p=38 Cheers, Michael On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: If you're coming to linux.conf.au 2014, would you be interested in a

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler meeting and Icehouse Summit

2013-10-14 Thread Debojyoti Dutta
Hi Phil Good summary ... I was wondering if we are shooting for too much to discuss by clubbing i) Group Scheduling / Smart Placement / Heat and Scheduling (1), (2), (3), (7) - How do you schedule something more complex that a single VM ? I think specifying something more complex

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] CD Cloud MVP2 completed

2013-10-14 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/14/2013 09:39 PM, Robert Collins wrote: That is, we're now deploying a trunk KVM based OpenStack using heat + nova baremetal on a continuous basis into the test rack we have *and* there are users setup on it for any TripleO ATC that want's an account, and networking is setup: you can

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler meeting and Icehouse Summit

2013-10-14 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Yes, Rethinking Scheduler Design http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/34 is not the same as the performance issue that Boris raised. I think the former would be a natural consequence of moving to an optimization-based joint decision-making framework, because such a thing necessarily takes

Re: [openstack-dev] [scheduler] Policy Model

2013-10-14 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Yathiraj Udupi (yudupi) yud...@cisco.com wrote on 10/14/2013 11:43:34 PM: ... For the policy model, you can expect rows in the DB each representing different policy instances something like- {id: , uuid: SOME-UUID-1, name: anti-colocation-1, type: anti-colocation, properties:

Re: [openstack-dev] [scheduler] Policy Model

2013-10-14 Thread Alex Glikson
I would suggest not to generalize too much.. e.g., restrict the discussion to PlacementPolicy. If anyone else would want to use a similar construct for other purposes -- it can be generalized later. For example, the notion of 'policy' already exists in other places in OpenStack in the context

[openstack-dev] how can i get volume name in create snapshot call

2013-10-14 Thread Dinakar Gorti Maruti
Dear all, we are in progress of implementing a new driver for cinder services , we have a scenario where we need volume name for creation of snapshot. In detail , we designed the driver in such a way that it communicates with our server through http calls , and now we need the volume name