[openstack-dev] [nova] About response of Get server details API v2

2014-08-07 Thread Kanno, Masaki
Hi all, Jclouds put out a stack trace when I tried "Get server details" of API v2 by jclouds. I looked into a response body of the API, and found that a value of "image" was an empty string as follows. I think the value of "image" should be an empty dictionary like "Get server details" of API v

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-07 Thread Kevin Benton
Can you link to the etherpad you mentioned? In the mean time, apologies for another analogy in advance. :-) If I give you an API to sort a list, I'm free to implement it however I want as long as I return a sorted list. However, there is no way me to know based on a call to this API that you migh

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-07 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 8 August 2014 02:06, Michael Still wrote: > 1: I think that ultimately should live in infra as part of check, but > I'd be ok with it starting as a third party if that delivers us > something faster. I'd be happy enough to donate resources to get that > going if we decide to go with this plan.

[openstack-dev] [cinder] Bug#1231298 - size parameter for volume creation

2014-08-07 Thread Ganapathy, Sandhya
Hi, This is to discuss Bug #1231298 - https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1231298 Bug description : When one creates a volume from a snapshot or another volume, the size argument is calculated automatically. In the case of an image it needs to be specified though, for something larger than t

Re: [openstack-dev] [git-review] Supporting development in local branches

2014-08-07 Thread Robert Collins
On 8 August 2014 10:52, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > I don't dislike rebases because I sometimes use a bit longer version of it. > I would be glad to avoid them because they destroy history that can help me > later. rebase doesn't destroy any history. gc destroys history. See git reflog - you can rec

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 03:56:04AM -0700, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 08/07/2014 02:12 AM, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote: [. . .] > > > >Excellent sugestion. I've wondered multiple times that if we could > >dedicate a good chunk (or whole) of a specific release for heads down > >bug fixing/stabilization. As

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for instance-level snapshots in Nova

2014-08-07 Thread Preston L. Bannister
Did this ever go anywhere? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-January/024315.html Looking at what is needed to get backup working in OpenStack, and this seems the most recent reference. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@l

[openstack-dev] [oslo.db]A proposal for DB read/write separation

2014-08-07 Thread Li Ma
Getting a massive amount of information from data storage to be displayed is where most of the activity happens in OpenStack. The two activities of reading data and writing (creating, updating and deleting) data are fundamentally different. The optimization for these two opposite database activ

[openstack-dev] [Ironic] Multi-ironic-conductor issue

2014-08-07 Thread Jander lu
Hi, all if I have more than one ironic conductor, so does each conductor should has their own PXE server and DHCP namespace or they just share one centralized pxe server or dhcp server ? if they share one centralized pxe and dhcp server, so how does they support HA? ___

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-07 Thread Michael Still
It seems to me that the tension here is that there are groups who would really like to use features in newer libvirts that we don't CI on in the gate. Is it naive to think that a possible solution here is to do the following: - revert the libvirt version_cap flag - instead implement a third part

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 08/07/2014 09:07 AM, Sean Dague wrote:> I think the difference is > slot selection would just be Nova drivers. I >> think there is an assumption in the old system that everyone in Nova >> core wants to prioritize the blueprints. I think t

Re: [openstack-dev] [git-review] Supporting development in local branches

2014-08-07 Thread Yuriy Taraday
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Chris Friesen wrote: > On 08/07/2014 04:52 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > > I hope you don't think that this thread was about rebases vs merges. >> It's about keeping track of your changes without impact on review process. >> > > But if you rebase, what is stopping yo

Re: [openstack-dev] [git-review] Supporting development in local branches

2014-08-07 Thread Chris Friesen
On 08/07/2014 04:52 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: I hope you don't think that this thread was about rebases vs merges. It's about keeping track of your changes without impact on review process. But if you rebase, what is stopping you from keeping whatever private history you want and then rebase t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Passing a list of ResourceGroup's attributes back to its members

2014-08-07 Thread Zane Bitter
On 07/08/14 13:22, Tomas Sedovic wrote: Hi all, I have a ResourceGroup which wraps a custom resource defined in another template: servers: type: OS::Heat::ResourceGroup properties: count: 10 resource_def: type: my_custom_server properti

Re: [openstack-dev] [git-review] Supporting development in local branches

2014-08-07 Thread Yuriy Taraday
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: > On 08/06/2014 05:35 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:00 PM, Ben Nemec > wrote: > >> You keep mentioning detached HEAD and reflog. I have never had to deal > >> with either when doing a rebase, so I think there's a disconne

[openstack-dev] [Ironic] [Infra] Devstack and Testing for ironic-python-agent``

2014-08-07 Thread Jay Faulkner
Hi all, At the recent Ironic mid-cycle meetup, we got the first version of the ironic-python-agent (IPA) driver merged. There are a few reviews we need merged (and their dependencies) across a few other projects in order to begin testing it automatically. We would like to eventually gate IPA a

Re: [openstack-dev] [git-review] Supporting development in local branches

2014-08-07 Thread Yuriy Taraday
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Chris Friesen wrote: > On 08/06/2014 05:41 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: > >> On 06/08/14 18:12, Yuriy Taraday wrote: >>> >>> Well, as per Git author, that's how you should do with not-CVS. You have >>> cheap merges - use them instead of erasing parts of history. >>> >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Eoghan Glynn
> On 08/07/2014 01:41 PM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: > > My point was simply that we don't have direct control over the > > contributors' activities > > This is not correct and I've seen it repeated too often to let it go > uncorrected: we (the OpenStack project as a whole) have a lot of control > over

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains

2014-08-07 Thread Brant Knudson
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell < kevin.mitch...@rackspace.com> wrote: > On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 17:46 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: > > > In any case, the operative point is that CONF. must > > always be > > > evaluated inside run-time code, never at module load time. > > > > ...un

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 08/07/2014 01:41 PM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: > My point was simply that we don't have direct control over the > contributors' activities This is not correct and I've seen it repeated too often to let it go uncorrected: we (the OpenStack project as a whole) have a lot of control over contributors to

Re: [openstack-dev] introducing cyclops

2014-08-07 Thread Eoghan Glynn
> Dear All, > > Let me use my first post to this list to introduce Cyclops and initiate a > discussion towards possibility of this platform as a future incubated > project in OpenStack. > > We at Zurich university of Applied Sciences have a python project in open > source (Apache 2 Licensing)

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-07 Thread Mohammad Banikazemi
Thierry Carrez wrote on 08/07/2014 06:23:56 AM: > From: Thierry Carrez > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Date: 08/07/2014 06:25 AM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy > and the way forward > > Armando M. wrote: > > This thread is moving so fast I can't

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-07 Thread Aaron Rosen
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: > >I mean't 'side stepping' why GBP allows for the comment you made > previous, "With the latter, a mapping driver could determine that > communication between these two hosts can be prevented by using an ACL on a > router or a switch, which do

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-07 Thread Edgar Magana
That I understand it! Thanks for the clarification. Edgar From: Ryan Moats mailto:rmo...@us.ibm.com>> Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Date: Thursday, August 7, 2014 at 2:45 PM To: "OpenStack Development Mailing L

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-07 Thread Ryan Moats
Edgar Magana wrote on 08/07/2014 04:37:39 PM: > From: Edgar Magana > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > > Date: 08/07/2014 04:40 PM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming > > Ryan, > > COPS implies a common protocol to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-07 Thread Edgar Magana
Thanks for sharing this Sumit. Again, my apologies for not attending the meeting, I just I couldn’t. It seems you had a good discussion about the naming and I do respect the decision. Cheers, Edgar On 8/7/14, 2:32 PM, "Sumit Naiksatam" wrote: >Ryan, point well taken. I am paraphrasing the di

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-07 Thread Edgar Magana
Ryan, COPS implies a common protocol to communicate with PEPs, which implies the same communication mechanism basically. So, you are implying that "endpoints" in GBP will use "different" protocol to communicate with "decisions" entities? It that is the case.. Well it sounds very complex for a s

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-07 Thread Sumit Naiksatam
Ryan, point well taken. I am paraphrasing the discussion from today's GBP sub team meeting on the options considered and the eventual proposal for "policy-point" and "policy-group": 18:36:50 so regarding the endpoint terminology 18:36:53 any suggestions? 18:36:56 ivar-lazzaro: If you are expre

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-07 Thread Ryan Moats
Edgar- I can't speak for anyone else, but in my mind at least (and having been involved in the work that led up to 3198), the members of the groups being discussed here are not PEPs. As 3198 states, being a PEP implies running COPS and I don't see that as necessary for membership in GBP groups.

Re: [openstack-dev] Win The Enterprise Work Group Update

2014-08-07 Thread Anne Gentle
Hi Carol, thanks for the summary presentation. I listened in to the board meeting for this portion. More below. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Barrett, Carol L wrote: > I want to provide the community an update on the Win The Enterprise work > group that came together in a BoF session in Atla

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] oslo.concurrency repo review

2014-08-07 Thread Ben Nemec
LGTM. Plenty of things I could add to your list, but they're all post-import. :-) -Ben On 08/07/2014 01:58 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > Hello, oslo cores. > > I've finished polishing up oslo.concurrency repo at [0] - please take a > look at it. I used my new version of graduate.sh [1] to generate

[openstack-dev] [Sahara] Swift trust authentication, status and concerns

2014-08-07 Thread Michael McCune
hi Sahara folks, This serves as a detailed status update for the Swift trust authentication spec[1], and to bring up concerns about integration for the Juno cycle. So far I have pushed a few reviews that start to lay the groundwork for the infrastructure needed to complete this blueprint. I hav

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-07 Thread Edgar Magana
I am sorry that I could not attend the GBP meeting. Is there any reason why the IEFT standard is not considered? http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3198 I would like to understand the argument why we are creating new names instead of using the standard ones. Edgar From: Ronak Shah mailto:ronak.malav

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-07 Thread Andrew Mann
Can you include the definition/description of what each is here as well? I think there was a description in the 100+ thread of doom, but I don't want to go back there :) On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Ronak Shah wrote: > Hi, > Following a very interesting and vocal thread on GBP for last coup

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Eoghan Glynn
> > If we try to limit the number of WIP slots, then surely aspiring > > contributors will simply work around that restriction by preparing > > the code they're interested in on their own private branches, or > > in their github forks? > > > > OK, some pragmatic contributors will adjust their prio

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-07 Thread Ronak Shah
Hi, Following a very interesting and vocal thread on GBP for last couple of days and the GBP meeting today, GBP sub-team proposes following name changes to the resource. policy-point for endpoint policy-group for endpointgroup (epg) Please reply if you feel that it is not ok with reason and sugg

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Weekly meetings resuming + agenda

2014-08-07 Thread Doug Wiegley
Personally, I prefer IRC for general meeting stuff, with separate breakouts to voice for topics that warrant it. Doug On 8/7/14, 2:28 AM, "Stephen Balukoff" wrote: >Hi Brandon, > > >I don't think we've set a specific date to make the transition to IRC >meetings. Is there a particular urgency a

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] oslo.concurrency repo review

2014-08-07 Thread Yuriy Taraday
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > Hello, oslo cores. > > I've finished polishing up oslo.concurrency repo at [0] - please take a > look at it. I used my new version of graduate.sh [1] to generate it, so > history looks a bit different from what you might be used to. > > I've

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Weekly meetings resuming + agenda

2014-08-07 Thread Brandon Logan
Those are definitely other big reasons, and probably the reason it is planned to move to IRC in the future, no matter what. I was just wondering how soon, if soon at all. On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 12:35 -0700, Stefano Maffulli wrote: > On Thu 07 Aug 2014 12:12:26 PM PDT, Brandon Logan wrote: > > It's

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Weekly meetings resuming + agenda

2014-08-07 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Thu 07 Aug 2014 12:12:26 PM PDT, Brandon Logan wrote: > It's just my own preference. Others like webex/hangouts because it can > be easier to talk about topics than in IRC, but with this many people > and the latency delays, it can become quite cumbersome. Plus, it makes > it easier for meetin

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] Core team proposals

2014-08-07 Thread Sean Dague
On 08/07/2014 02:09 PM, Dean Troyer wrote: > I want to nominate Ian Wienand (IRC: ianw) to the DevStack core team. > Ian has been a consistent contributor and reviewer for some time now. > He also manages the Red Hat CI that runs tests on Fedora, RHEL and > CentOS so those platforms have been a p

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 6, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Michael Still wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > >> We seem to be unable to address some key issues in the software we >> produce, and part of it is due to strategic contributors (and core >> reviewers) being overwhelmed just trying to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Weekly meetings resuming + agenda

2014-08-07 Thread Brandon Logan
It's just my own preference. Others like webex/hangouts because it can be easier to talk about topics than in IRC, but with this many people and the latency delays, it can become quite cumbersome. Plus, it makes it easier for meeting notes. I'll deal with it while the majority really prefer it.

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-07 Thread Kevin Benton
>I mean't 'side stepping' why GBP allows for the comment you made previous, "With the latter, a mapping driver could determine that communication between these two hosts can be prevented by using an ACL on a router or a switch, which doesn't violate the user's intent and buys a performance improvem

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains

2014-08-07 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 7, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: > On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 17:27 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: >> On 07/08/14 16:27, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: >>> On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 12:15 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: A (the?) solution is to register_opts() in foo before importing any >>>

[openstack-dev] [oslo] oslo.concurrency repo review

2014-08-07 Thread Yuriy Taraday
Hello, oslo cores. I've finished polishing up oslo.concurrency repo at [0] - please take a look at it. I used my new version of graduate.sh [1] to generate it, so history looks a bit different from what you might be used to. I've made as little changes as possible, so there're still some steps le

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Chris Friesen
On 08/07/2014 12:32 PM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: If we try to limit the number of WIP slots, then surely aspiring contributors will simply work around that restriction by preparing the code they're interested in on their own private branches, or in their github forks? OK, some pragmatic contributors

[openstack-dev] [sahara] Backports for 2014.1.2

2014-08-07 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Hey sahara folks, I'm going to push 2014.1.2 tag to stable/icehouse branch next week, so, please, propose backports before the weekend and ping us to backport some sensitive fixes. Thanks you! -- Sincerely yours, Sergey Lukjanov Sahara Technical Lead (OpenStack Data Processing) Principal Softwar

[openstack-dev] [sahara] team meeting minutes Aug 7

2014-08-07 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Thanks everyone who have joined Sahara meeting. Here are the logs from the meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-08-07-18.02.html http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-08-07-18.02.log.html -- Sincerely yours, Sergey Lukjanov Sahara Te

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Eoghan Glynn
> Multidisciplinary training rules! As an architect with field experience > building roads, sidewalks, roofs, city planning (and training in lean > manufacturing and services) I think I can have a say ;) > > > You're not really introducing a successful Kanban here, you're just > > clarifying tha

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Hi everyone, > > With the incredible growth of OpenStack, our development community is > facing complex challenges. How we handle those might determine the > ultimate success or failure of OpenStack. > > With this cycle we hit new limits in

[openstack-dev] [devstack] Core team proposals

2014-08-07 Thread Dean Troyer
I want to nominate Ian Wienand (IRC: ianw) to the DevStack core team. Ian has been a consistent contributor and reviewer for some time now. He also manages the Red Hat CI that runs tests on Fedora, RHEL and CentOS so those platforms have been a particular point of interest for him. Ian has also

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Exceptional approval request for Cisco Driver Blueprint

2014-08-07 Thread Jay Faulkner
Hey, I agree with Dmitry that this spec has a huge scope. If you resubmitted one with only the power interface, that could be considered for an exception. A few specific reasons: 1) Auto-enrollment -- should probably be held off at the moment - This is something that was talked about extensive

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-07 Thread Aaron Rosen
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Kevin Benton wrote: > You said you had no idea what group based policy was buying us so I tried > to illustrate what the difference between declarative and imperative > network configuration looks like. That's the major selling point of GBP so > I'm not sure how th

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains

2014-08-07 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 17:41 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: > ... or arg is an object which defines __nonzero__(), or defines > __getattr__() and then explodes because of the unexpected lookup of a > __nonzero__ attribute. Or it's False (no quotes when printed by the > debugger), but has a unicode type

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains

2014-08-07 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 17:46 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: > > In any case, the operative point is that CONF. must > always be > > evaluated inside run-time code, never at module load time. > > ...unless you call register_opts() safely, which is what I'm > proposing. No, calling register_opts() at a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains

2014-08-07 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 17:44 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: > These are tricky, case-by-case workarounds to a general problem which > can be solved by simply calling register_opts() in a place where it's > guaranteed to be safe. No, THE CODE IS WRONG. It is evaluating a configuration value at _modul

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 08/07/2014 01:49 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > As an ex factory IT manager, I feel compelled to comment on that :) Multidisciplinary training rules! As an architect with field experience building roads, sidewalks, roofs, city planning (and training in lean manufacturing and services) I think I ca

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Bug squashing day

2014-08-07 Thread Sumit Naiksatam
Indeed, thanks much Eugene for taking on this critical activity. Please let me know if I can help in any way as well. On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Kyle Mestery wrote: > On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Eugene Nikanorov > wrote: >> Hi neutron folks, >> >> Today should have been 'Bug squashing d

[openstack-dev] [Heat] Passing a list of ResourceGroup's attributes back to its members

2014-08-07 Thread Tomas Sedovic
Hi all, I have a ResourceGroup which wraps a custom resource defined in another template: servers: type: OS::Heat::ResourceGroup properties: count: 10 resource_def: type: my_custom_server properties: prop_1: "..." prop_2:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Bug squashing day

2014-08-07 Thread Edgar Magana
I will be around today. I can help on bug triaging.. Catch me on IRC (emagana) Thank for coordinating this Eugene! Edgar On 8/7/14, 9:19 AM, "Akihiro Motoki" wrote: >Thanks Eugene for initiating Neutron bug squashing day! >I would like to focus on bug triaging and checking bug status rather >t

Re: [openstack-dev] Which program for Rally

2014-08-07 Thread John Griffith
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:02 AM, John Griffith wrote: > > > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 6:20 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > >> On 08/07/2014 07:58 AM, Angus Salkeld wrote: >> > On Wed, 2014-08-06 at 15:48 -0600, John Griffith wrote: >> >> I have to agree with Duncan here. I also don't know if I fully >> >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Proposal for slight change in our spec process

2014-08-07 Thread Jim Rollenhagen
On August 7, 2014 at 8:36:16 AM, Matt Wagner (matt.wag...@redhat.com) wrote: On 07/08/14 14:17 +0200, Dmitry Tantsur wrote:    >2. We'll need to speed up spec reviews, because we're adding one more  >blocker on the way to the code being merged :) Maybe it's no longer a  >problem actually, we're doi

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-07 Thread Kevin Benton
You said you had no idea what group based policy was buying us so I tried to illustrate what the difference between declarative and imperative network configuration looks like. That's the major selling point of GBP so I'm not sure how that's 'side stepping' any points. It removes the need for the u

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains

2014-08-07 Thread Matthew Booth
On 07/08/14 17:39, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: > On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 17:27 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: >> On 07/08/14 16:27, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: >>> On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 12:15 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: A (the?) solution is to register_opts() in foo before importing any modules whic

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains

2014-08-07 Thread Matthew Booth
On 07/08/14 17:34, Dan Smith wrote: >> That's different behaviour, because you can no longer pass arg=None. The >> fix isn't to change the behaviour of the code. > > So use a sentinel... That would also be a change to the behaviour of the code, because you can no longer pass in the sentinel. The

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains

2014-08-07 Thread Matthew Booth
On 07/08/14 17:11, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: > On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 10:55 -0500, Matt Riedemann wrote: >> >> On 8/7/2014 10:27 AM, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: >>> On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 12:15 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: A (the?) solution is to register_opts() in foo before importing any modul

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains

2014-08-07 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 17:27 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: > On 07/08/14 16:27, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: > > On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 12:15 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: > >> A (the?) solution is to register_opts() in foo before importing any > >> modules which might also use oslo.config. > > > > Actually

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains

2014-08-07 Thread Dan Smith
> That's different behaviour, because you can no longer pass arg=None. The > fix isn't to change the behaviour of the code. So use a sentinel... --Dan signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@l

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains

2014-08-07 Thread Matthew Booth
On 07/08/14 16:27, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: > On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 12:15 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: >> A (the?) solution is to register_opts() in foo before importing any >> modules which might also use oslo.config. > > Actually, I disagree. The real problem here is the definition of > bar_func

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Bug squashing day

2014-08-07 Thread Akihiro Motoki
Thanks Eugene for initiating Neutron bug squashing day! I would like to focus on bug triaging and checking bug status rather than fixing bugs. There seem be many bugs which are not valid anymore. Thanks, Akihiro On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 11:31 PM, Eugene Nikanorov wrote: > Hi neutron folks, > > Tod

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains

2014-08-07 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 10:55 -0500, Matt Riedemann wrote: > > On 8/7/2014 10:27 AM, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: > > On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 12:15 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: > >> A (the?) solution is to register_opts() in foo before importing any > >> modules which might also use oslo.config. > > > > Ac

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 7 August 2014 16:39, John Griffith wrote: > On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Eric Harney wrote: >> On 08/07/2014 09:55 AM, John Griffith wrote: >> > There are three things that have just crushed productivity and >> > motivation >> > in Cinder this release (IMO): >> > 1. Overwhelming number of d

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Nikola Đipanov
On 08/07/2014 03:20 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 08/07/2014 09:07 AM, Sean Dague wrote:> I think the difference is > slot selection would just be Nova drivers. I >> think there is an assumption in the old system that everyone in Nova >> core wants to prioritize the blueprints. I think there are a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains

2014-08-07 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 8/7/2014 10:27 AM, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 12:15 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: A (the?) solution is to register_opts() in foo before importing any modules which might also use oslo.config. Actually, I disagree. The real problem here is the definition of bar_func().

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][QA] Enabling full neutron Job

2014-08-07 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Thanks Armando, The fix for the bug you pointed out was the reason of the failure we've been seeing. The follow-up patch merged and I've removed the wip status from the patch for the full job [1] Salvatore [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/88289/ On 7 August 2014 16:50, Armando M. wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread John Griffith
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Eric Harney wrote: > On 08/07/2014 09:55 AM, John Griffith wrote: > > ​Seems everybody that's been around a while has noticed "issues" this > > release and have talked about it, thanks Thierry for putting it together > so > > well and kicking off the ML thread here

Re: [openstack-dev] [git-review] Supporting development in local branches

2014-08-07 Thread Ben Nemec
On 08/06/2014 05:35 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > Oh, looks like we got a bit of a race condition in messages. I hope you > don't mind. > > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:00 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: > >> On 08/06/2014 01:42 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Ben Nemec >> wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Proposal for slight change in our spec process

2014-08-07 Thread Matt Wagner
On 07/08/14 14:17 +0200, Dmitry Tantsur wrote: 2. We'll need to speed up spec reviews, because we're adding one more blocker on the way to the code being merged :) Maybe it's no longer a problem actually, we're doing it faster now. I'm not sure if this will actually delay stuff getting merged.

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Eric Harney
On 08/07/2014 09:55 AM, John Griffith wrote: > ​Seems everybody that's been around a while has noticed "issues" this > release and have talked about it, thanks Thierry for putting it together so > well and kicking off the ML thread here. > > I'd agree with everything that you stated, I've also flo

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains

2014-08-07 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 12:15 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: > A (the?) solution is to register_opts() in foo before importing any > modules which might also use oslo.config. Actually, I disagree. The real problem here is the definition of bar_func(). The default value of the parameter "arg" will lik

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains (a proposal to update the style guidelines for imports)

2014-08-07 Thread Matthew Booth
On 07/08/14 12:15, Matthew Booth wrote: > I'm sure this is well known, but I recently encountered this problem for > the second time. > > --- > foo: > import oslo.config as cfg > > import bar > > CONF = cfg.CONF > CONF.register_opts('foo_opt') > > --- > bar: > import oslo.config as cfg > > CON

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] dns for overcloud nodes

2014-08-07 Thread Giulio Fidente
On 08/07/2014 01:32 PM, Jan Provaznik wrote: Hi, by default we don't set nameserver when setting up neutron subnet used by overcloud nodes, then nameserver points to the machine where undercloud's dnsmasq is running. I wonder if we should not change *default* devtest setup to allow dns resolving

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-07 Thread Aaron Rosen
Hi Kevin, I feel as your latest response is completely side stepping the points we have been trying to get to in the last series of emails. At the end of the day I don't believe we are changing the laws of networking (or perhaps we are?). Thus I think it's important to actually get down to the ne

Re: [openstack-dev] introducing cyclops

2014-08-07 Thread Endre Karlson
Hi, are you on IRC? :) Endre 2014-08-07 12:01 GMT+02:00 Piyush Harsh : > Dear All, > > Let me use my first post to this list to introduce Cyclops and initiate a > discussion towards possibility of this platform as a future incubated > project in OpenStack. > > We at Zurich university of Applied

Re: [openstack-dev] Which program for Rally

2014-08-07 Thread John Griffith
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 6:20 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 08/07/2014 07:58 AM, Angus Salkeld wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-08-06 at 15:48 -0600, John Griffith wrote: > >> I have to agree with Duncan here. I also don't know if I fully > >> understand the limit in options. Stress test seems like it > >> c

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][QA] Enabling full neutron Job

2014-08-07 Thread Armando M.
Hi Salvatore, I did notice the issue and I flagged this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1352141 I'll follow up. Cheers, Armando On 7 August 2014 01:34, Salvatore Orlando wrote: > I had to put the patch back on WIP because yesterday a bug causing a 100% > failure rate slippe

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Bug squashing day

2014-08-07 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Eugene Nikanorov wrote: > Hi neutron folks, > > Today should have been 'Bug squashing day' where we go over existing bugs > filed for the project and triage/prioritize/comment on them. > > I've created an etherpad with (hopefully) full list of neutron bugs: > https:

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-07 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 7/18/2014 2:55 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 12:13:13PM -0700, Johannes Erdfelt wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2014, Russell Bryant wrote: On 07/17/2014 02:31 PM, Johannes Erdfelt wrote: It kind of helps. It's still implicit in that you need to look at what features are e

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon] Package python-django-pyscss dependencies on CentOS

2014-08-07 Thread Matthias Runge
On 07/08/14 11:11, Timur Sufiev wrote: Thanks, now it is clear that this requirement can be safely dropped. As I said, it's required during build time, if you execute the tests during build. It's not a runtime dependency; the page you were referring to is from the build system. Matthias __

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Bug squashing day

2014-08-07 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Hi neutron folks, Today should have been 'Bug squashing day' where we go over existing bugs filed for the project and triage/prioritize/comment on them. I've created an etherpad with (hopefully) full list of neutron bugs: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-bug-squashing-day-2014-08-07 I wa

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] nova-network stuck at get semaphores lock when startup

2014-08-07 Thread Alex Xu
Oops, thanks On 2014年08月07日 22:08, Ben Nemec wrote: Unfortunately this is a known issue. We're working on a fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/1327946 On 08/07/2014 03:57 AM, Alex Xu wrote: When I startup nova-network, it stuck at trying get lock for ebtables. @utils.synchronized('ebt

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] nova-network stuck at get semaphores lock when startup

2014-08-07 Thread Ben Nemec
Unfortunately this is a known issue. We're working on a fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/1327946 On 08/07/2014 03:57 AM, Alex Xu wrote: > When I startup nova-network, it stuck at trying get lock for ebtables. > > @utils.synchronized('ebtables', external=True) > def ensure_ebtables_rules

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread John Griffith
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Anne Gentle wrote: > > > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: > >> On 08/07/2014 09:07 AM, Sean Dague wrote:> I think the difference is >> slot selection would just be Nova drivers. I >> > think there is an assumption in the old system that ever

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Anne Gentle
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 08/07/2014 09:07 AM, Sean Dague wrote:> I think the difference is > slot selection would just be Nova drivers. I > > think there is an assumption in the old system that everyone in Nova > > core wants to prioritize the blueprints. I think

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Sean Dague
On 08/06/2014 11:51 AM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: > > >> Hi everyone, >> >> With the incredible growth of OpenStack, our development community is >> facing complex challenges. How we handle those might determine the >> ultimate success or failure of OpenStack. >> >> With this cycle we hit new limits in

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/07/2014 09:07 AM, Sean Dague wrote:> I think the difference is slot selection would just be Nova drivers. I > think there is an assumption in the old system that everyone in Nova > core wants to prioritize the blueprints. I think there are a bunch of > folks in Nova core that are happy having

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Sean Dague
On 08/07/2014 08:54 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 08/07/2014 04:49 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: >> Stefano Maffulli wrote: >>> On Wed 06 Aug 2014 02:10:23 PM PDT, Michael Still wrote: - we rate limit the total number of blueprints under code review at any one time to a fixed number of "slo

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/07/2014 04:49 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Stefano Maffulli wrote: >> On Wed 06 Aug 2014 02:10:23 PM PDT, Michael Still wrote: >>> - we rate limit the total number of blueprints under code review at >>> any one time to a fixed number of "slots". I secretly prefer the term >>> "runway", so I a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Deprecating CONF.block_device_allocate_retries_interval

2014-08-07 Thread John Garbutt
On 6 August 2014 18:54, Jay Pipes wrote: > So, Liyi Meng has an interesting patch up for Nova: > > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104876 > > 1) We should just deprecate both the options, with a note in the option help > text that these options are not used when volume size is not 0, and that the

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