Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] openwrt VM as service

2015-04-17 Thread Sridhar Ramaswamy
As mentioned earlier in this thread there are few VM based L3 implementations already in neutron - from Cisco (CSR) and Brocade (Vyatta vRouter). Both extends off neutron L3 service-plugin framework. And they both have been decomposed in the current Kilo cycle into stackforge. So all you need is

Re: [openstack-dev] [wsme] [ironic] [ceilometer] [magnum] [kite] [tuskar] WSME unmaintained ?

2015-04-17 Thread Julien Danjou
On Thu, Apr 16 2015, Lucas Alvares Gomes wrote: /me put his wsme-core hat on * Should projects relying on WSME start thinking about migrating their APIs to another technology? Maybe not migrating, but at least not starting something new with it. * Can we somehow get the core team to start

Re: [openstack-dev] [wsme] [ironic] [ceilometer] [magnum] [kite] [tuskar] WSME unmaintained ?

2015-04-17 Thread Julien Danjou
On Thu, Apr 16 2015, Jay Pipes wrote: I think this may be the way to go. The intent of WSME is admirable (the multiprotocol stack) but the execution leads to unwarranted complexity. I think a framework more specifically dedicated to JSON APIs, or even just being webby and correct would be

[openstack-dev] [neutron] Setting the subnet's gateway with the IP allocated to a ServiceVM's port?

2015-04-17 Thread Wang, Yalei
Hi all, This is a problem about the gateway setting in the subnet when one VM could act as a router/firewall. When one VM works as a router/firewall in the network, the port where the VM connect to the subnet should be the gateway of the subnet. But now, we can't set the gateway to any VM's

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] eventlet 0.17.3 is now fully Python 3 compatible

2015-04-17 Thread Victor Stinner
For the full list, see the wiki page: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Python3#Core_OpenStack_projects Thanks for updating the wiki page that is a very useful list. From the looks of things, it seems like nova getting Python3 support in Liberty is not going to happen. Why? I plan to work

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] openwrt VM as service

2015-04-17 Thread Guo, Ruijing
Service VM is a good way to go. Possibly we need to change metadata proxy in neutron for VM based L3: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/metadata-overlapping-networks Thanks, -Ruijing From: Sridhar Ramaswamy [mailto:sric...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 1:59 PM To:

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron scaling datapoints?

2015-04-17 Thread joehuang
Hi, Attila, only address the issue of agent status/liveness management is not enough for Neutron scalability. The concurrent dynamic load impact on large scale ( for example 100k managed nodes with the dynamic load like security group rule update, routers_updated, etc ) should also be taken

[openstack-dev] [all] Liberty Design Summit - Proposed room / time layout

2015-04-17 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hi PTLs, Following the slot allocation last week, here is the proposed room layout: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VsFdRYGbX5eCde81XDV7TrPBfEC7cgtOFikruYmqbPY/edit?usp=sharing It takes into account the following changes: - Barbican donates on fishbowl room to Security - Magnum takes

Re: [openstack-dev] [fuel][plugin] Location of 6.1 source code for nova and neutron

2015-04-17 Thread Emma Gordon (projectcalico.org)
Thanks Sergii. From: Sergii Golovatiuk [mailto:sgolovat...@mirantis.com] Sent: 16 April 2015 20:35 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Joe Marshall (projectcalico.org); Neil Jerram (projectcalico.org) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [fuel][plugin] Location of 6.1

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] why is evacuate marked as missing for libvirt?

2015-04-17 Thread Markus Zoeller
Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote on 04/15/2015 11:35:39 AM: From: Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 04/15/2015 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] why is

Re: [openstack-dev] Using DevStack in Kilo

2015-04-17 Thread Sean Dague
glanceclient has always been that way it's terrible. :( the nova message timeout looks like it's becauce nova-cert is not running, and it keeps trying to ping it. What actions were you doing that triggered that path? On 04/16/2015 07:23 PM, Danny Choi (dannchoi) wrote: When use devstack

[openstack-dev] VM migration between two data centers

2015-04-17 Thread Abhishek Talwar/HYD/TCS
Hi Folks, I have created two data centers and I am using OpenStack as the management platform for them. So now my question is it is possible to migrate VM instances from one data center to the other. Can two OpenStack clouds migrate VM to each other ? Thanks and Regards Abhishek Talwar

Re: [openstack-dev] [wsme] [ironic] [ceilometer] [magnum] [kite] [tuskar] WSME unmaintained ?

2015-04-17 Thread Chris Dent
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015, Julien Danjou wrote: After using Pecan for a while, I'm leaning toward explicit routing too. This Falcon API looks right too. Honestly Pecan is messy. Most of the time, when coding, you have no clue which one of the method is going to be picked in which controller class.

[openstack-dev] [Fuel]Format of notifications about Ubuntu repositories connectivity

2015-04-17 Thread Maciej Kwiek
Hi, I am currently implementing fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1439686 . I plan to notify user about nodes which fail to connect to ubuntu repositories via fuel notifications. My question is as follows: when I get the list of nodes which failed repo connectivity test - do I add one

Re: [openstack-dev] VM migration between two data centers

2015-04-17 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 04:05:20PM +0530, Abhishek Talwar/HYD/TCS wrote: Hi Folks, I have created two data centers and I am using OpenStack as the management platform for them. So now my question is it is possible to migrate VM instances from one data center to the other. Please ask such

[openstack-dev] [oslo][policy][neutron] oslo.policy API is not powerful enough to switch Neutron to it

2015-04-17 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, tl;dr neutron has special semantics for policy targets that relies on private symbols from oslo.policy, and it's impossible to introduce this semantics into oslo.policy itself due to backwards compatibility concerns, meaning we need to expose

[openstack-dev] [nova-docker][ceilometer][heat] Autoscaling docker in openstack

2015-04-17 Thread ashish.jain14
Hi, I have been working on running docker on openstack. I had a discussion on multiple IRC and IIUC there are 5 different ways of running docker on openstack. IIUC currently there is no way to autoscale docker on openstack. Please correct me if I am wrong 1) Using nova-docker driver -

[openstack-dev] PTL Election Conclusion and Results

2015-04-17 Thread Tristan Cacqueray
Thank you to the electorate, to all those who voted and to all candidates who put their name forward for PTL for this election. A healthy, open process breeds trust in our decision making capability thank you to all those who make this process possible. Now for the results of the PTL election

Re: [openstack-dev] Using DevStack in Kilo

2015-04-17 Thread Sean Dague
On 04/17/2015 06:44 AM, Jens Rosenboom wrote: 2015-04-17 12:23 GMT+02:00 Sean Dague s...@dague.net mailto:s...@dague.net: glanceclient has always been that way it's terrible. :( the nova message timeout looks like it's becauce nova-cert is not running, and it keeps

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] API WG Meeting Time

2015-04-17 Thread michael mccune
On 04/16/2015 05:25 PM, Everett Toews wrote: It would be good to hear from those in Asia, Australia, and Europe on the subject. +1 __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe:

[openstack-dev] [Fuel][NetApp plugin] Samuel Bartel added as a maintainer

2015-04-17 Thread Sebastian Kalinowski
Hello, Today we added Samuel Bartel as a Core Review for NetApp plugin [1]. He will be now main person leading the plugin development. Congrats! Best, Sebastian [1] https://github.com/stackforge/fuel-plugin-cinder-netapp

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Linuxbridge as the default in DevStack [was: Status of the nova-network to Neutron migration work]

2015-04-17 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Complex is kind of the wrong thing to describe the deployer complaint. Its learning curve. To debug issues, I have to learn someting new, and I dont want to because I dont believe I need that feature. I get it. I really do. But there are three actors here, not just one. The deployer, the app

Re: [openstack-dev] [opentack-dev][meetings] Proposing changes in Rally meetings

2015-04-17 Thread Andrey Kurilin
- We should start making agenda for each meeting and publish it to Rally wiki +1 * Second is release management meeting, where we are discussing priorities for current next release. So core team will know what to review first. It would be nice to post list of high priority

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Building images separation and moving images into right place at right time

2015-04-17 Thread Jaromir Coufal
Oh, I see it got already split (not in this patch)! Excellent. Thanks for striking me Jay, it actually helped. Many thanks! -- Jarda On 17/04/15 16:00, Jay Dobies wrote: Have you seen Dan's first steps towards splitting the overcloud image building out of devtest_overcloud? It's not the same

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova-docker][ceilometer][heat] Autoscaling docker in openstack

2015-04-17 Thread Sergey Kraynev
@VACHNIS: yeah. in this case we blocked by ceilometer. AFAIK, ceilometer collect metrics from Nova:Server, not from docker directly. So mentioned bp is make sense (add support for this feature to ceilomete, then to heat). Regards, Sergey. On 17 April 2015 at 17:11, VACHNIS, AVI (AVI)

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] on supporting multiple implementations of tripleo-heat-templates

2015-04-17 Thread Giulio Fidente
Hi, the Heat/Puppet implementation of the Overcloud deployment seems to be surpassing in features the Heat/Elements implementation. The changes for Ceph are an example, the Puppet based version is already adding features which don't have they counterpart into Elements based. Recently we

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova-docker][ceilometer][heat] Autoscaling docker in openstack

2015-04-17 Thread Sergey Kraynev
Hi, Ashish. Honestly I am not familiar with most part of these ways, but can add more information from Heat side (item 2). I am surprised, that you have missed Heat autoscaling mechanism (You should look it :) ). It's one of the important part of Heat project. It allows to scale vms/stacks by

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova-docker][ceilometer][heat] Autoscaling docker in openstack

2015-04-17 Thread ashish.jain14
Hi Segey, So IIUC approach #2 may still help to autoscale docker on openstack. I will try that out and post questions on heat irc thanks. Regards Ashish From: Sergey Kraynev skray...@mirantis.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 7:01 PM To: OpenStack Development

Re: [openstack-dev] [opentack-dev][meetings] Proposing changes in Rally meetings

2015-04-17 Thread yinjalee
15UTC works for me, it's 23 here in China, 17UTC is really late for me ;) Cheers, Yingjun Li At 2015-04-17 21:26:29, Boris Pavlovic bo...@pavlovic.me wrote: Rally team, I would like to propose next changes in Rally meetings: - We should start making agenda for each meeting and

[openstack-dev] [opentack-dev][meetings] Proposing changes in Rally meetings

2015-04-17 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Rally team, I would like to propose next changes in Rally meetings: - We should start making agenda for each meeting and publish it to Rally wiki - We should do 2 meeting per week: * First is regular meeting (like we have now) where we are discussing everything * Second is

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Building images separation and moving images into right place at right time

2015-04-17 Thread Jay Dobies
Have you seen Dan's first steps towards splitting the overcloud image building out of devtest_overcloud? It's not the same thing that you're talking about, but it might be a step in that direction. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173645/ On 04/17/2015 09:50 AM, Jaromir Coufal wrote: Hi All,

[openstack-dev] [tripleo] Building images separation and moving images into right place at right time

2015-04-17 Thread Jaromir Coufal
Hi All, at the moment we are building discovery, deploy and overcloud images all at once. Then we face user to deal with uploading all images at one step. User should not be exposed to discovery/deploy images. This should happen automatically for the user during undercloud installation as

[openstack-dev] [release] release critical oslo.messaging changes

2015-04-17 Thread Sean Dague
It turns out a number of people are hitting - https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+bug/1436769 (I tripped over it this morning as well). Under a currently unknown set of conditions you can get into a heartbeat loop with oslo.messaging 1.8.1 which basically shuts down the RPC bus as every

Re: [openstack-dev] Using DevStack in Kilo

2015-04-17 Thread Jens Rosenboom
2015-04-17 12:23 GMT+02:00 Sean Dague s...@dague.net: glanceclient has always been that way it's terrible. :( the nova message timeout looks like it's becauce nova-cert is not running, and it keeps trying to ping it. What actions were you doing that triggered that path? I think this

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] 6.1 SCF declared, new HCF/GA dates are May 12th / May 28th

2015-04-17 Thread Eugene Bogdanov
Hello everyone, I'd like to inform you that Soft Code Freeze for 6.1 release is now effective. This means that since now on we stop accepting fixes for Medium priority bugs and focus solely on Critical and High priority bugs. As mentioned last week, we need to push Hard Code Freeze and GA

[openstack-dev] [Fuel][Plugins] Moving old plugins to stackforge-attic

2015-04-17 Thread Sebastian Kalinowski
Hello, I propose to move two old, unmaintained plugins to stackforge-attic as there is no interest or plans in continuing development of them: * https://github.com/stackforge/fuel-plugin-group-based-policy - development is now done in another repository as different plugin *

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Several nominations for fuel project cores

2015-04-17 Thread Dmitry Pyzhov
Thanks for your responses. I'm sorry for combined request. I thought it is better to have less e-mails if possible. Ok, next time I will send separate request per nomination. If some of you think that I should restart voting - speak up, I will restart it. Otherwise guys will get +2 permissions on

Re: [openstack-dev] [packaging][neutron] --config-dir vs. --config-file

2015-04-17 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/13/2015 10:08 PM, Matthew Thode wrote: The loading seems to me in a sorted order, so we can do 1.conf 2.conf etc. https://github.com/openstack/oslo.config/blob/1.9.3/oslo_config/cfg.py #L1265-L1268 It would need to be explicitly

Re: [openstack-dev] [packaging][neutron] --config-dir vs. --config-file

2015-04-17 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/13/2015 09:45 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: What is the order of priority between the same option defined in two files with --config-dir? Should be alphabetically sorted, but it's not yet defined in documentation. I've sent a patch for this:

Re: [openstack-dev] [packaging][neutron] --config-dir vs. --config-file

2015-04-17 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/13/2015 07:47 PM, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: Hello, For Clear Linux* for Intel Architecture we do not allow to package things in /etc, instead we leave /etc completely empty and for user/admin modifications only. Typically we achieve

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova-docker][ceilometer][heat] Autoscaling docker in openstack

2015-04-17 Thread VACHNIS, AVI (AVI)
Hi, @Ashish, if the limitation you've mentioned for #1 still exists, I join your question how heat auto-scale-group may work w/o ceilometer being able to collect docker metrics? @Sergey, hey. Are you saying that ceilometer do collects metrics on docker underlying nova::server resource?

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova-docker][ceilometer][heat] Autoscaling docker in openstack

2015-04-17 Thread ashish.jain14
Yes limitation #1 indeed exists, have got confirmation from few of the developers. Here is one blueprint which talks about this https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/container-monitoring From: VACHNIS, AVI (AVI) avi.vach...@alcatel-lucent.com Sent:

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Building images separation and moving images into right place at right time

2015-04-17 Thread Arkady_Kanevsky
Dell - Internal Use - Confidential We need an ability for an Admin to add/remove new images at will to deploy new overcloud images at any time. Expect that it is standard glance functionality. -Original Message- From: Jaromir Coufal [mailto:jcou...@redhat.com] Sent: Friday, April 17,

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Mysql db connection leaking?

2015-04-17 Thread Jay Pipes
On 04/17/2015 05:26 AM, Qiming Teng wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 01:27:51PM -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: On 04/16/2015 09:54 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 04/16/2015 05:20 PM, Qiming Teng wrote: Wondering if there is something misconfigured in my devstack environment, which was reinstalled on RHEL7

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] naming of the project

2015-04-17 Thread Emilien Macchi
On 04/16/2015 02:32 PM, Emilien Macchi wrote: On 04/16/2015 02:23 PM, Richard Raseley wrote: Emilien Macchi wrote: Hi all, I sent a patch to openstack/governance to move our project under the big tent, and it came up [1] that we should decide of a project name and be careful about

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Mysql db connection leaking?

2015-04-17 Thread Jay Pipes
On 04/16/2015 06:40 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 4/16/2015 12:27 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 04/16/2015 09:54 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 04/16/2015 05:20 PM, Qiming Teng wrote: Wondering if there is something misconfigured in my devstack environment, which was reinstalled on RHEL7 about 10 days

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova-docker][ceilometer][heat] Autoscaling docker in openstack

2015-04-17 Thread ashish.jain14
So ultimately this means there is no way to autoscale docker containers on openstack until and unless ceilometer adds an inspector for docker hypervisor something similar to this (https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/tree/master/ceilometer/compute/virt). Regards Ashish

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova-docker][ceilometer][heat] Autoscaling docker in openstack

2015-04-17 Thread Zane Bitter
On 17/04/15 10:11, VACHNIS, AVI (AVI) wrote: Hi, @Ashish, if the limitation you've mentioned for #1 still exists, I join your question how heat auto-scale-group may work w/o ceilometer being able to collect docker metrics? Yeah, you're correct. Approach #2 has exactly the same problem as

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Building images separation and moving images into right place at right time

2015-04-17 Thread Arkady_Kanevsky
Dell - Internal Use - Confidential If images under consideration are for overcloud nodes then they will changing all the time also. It all depends on which layer you are working on. Just consider images for overcloud nodes as a cloud application, and then follow rules you would apply to any

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Has Neutron satisfied parity with Nova network FlatDHCP?

2015-04-17 Thread Salvatore Orlando
DVR probably still does satisfy the same requirements as nova multi-host, because of the lack of SNAT masquerade distribution. Neutron DVR distributes the floating IP and east-west traffic, but the default gateway for each VM is still centralised, thus making the network node a SPOF. Then from a

Re: [openstack-dev] Openstack live migration using devstack

2015-04-17 Thread Jordan Pittier
Hi Double check that sql_connection in the [database] section of cinder.conf is not empty. Jordan On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Erlon Cruz sombra...@gmail.com wrote: Had the same error, but with cinder. Did you find find out something about this error? 2015-04-17

[openstack-dev] [chef] PTL Candidacy

2015-04-17 Thread JJ Asghar
Hey everyone! Starting the process of moving Chef into the “big tent” of OpenStack, I’d like to offer my candidacy for the PTL of the Liberty cycle. My Qualifications I have been shepherding the OpenStack Chef community since July of last year. My role at Chef is the “OpenStack guy.” I have

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] on supporting multiple implementations of tripleo-heat-templates

2015-04-17 Thread James Slagle
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Giulio Fidente's message of 2015-04-17 06:21:28 -0700: Hi, the Heat/Puppet implementation of the Overcloud deployment seems to be surpassing in features the Heat/Elements implementation. The changes for Ceph

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] is cloudwatch really deprecated?

2015-04-17 Thread Matt Fischer
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 17/04/15 12:46, Matt Fischer wrote: The wiki for Using Cloudwatch states: This feature will be deprecated or removed during the Havana cycle as we move to using Ceilometer as a metric/alarm service instead. [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Linuxbridge as the default in DevStack [was: Status of the nova-network to Neutron migration work]

2015-04-17 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Currently Murano supports part of it. It provides a per cloud region app store like functionality. But I think each deployer needs to load in the apps they want in the catalog. I'm thinking that ui should somehow plug into an openstack.org provided catalog of apps that OpenStack app developers

Re: [openstack-dev] Barbican : What is the difference between secret and order resource

2015-04-17 Thread Asha Seshagiri
Hi All, I would like to know if the keys generated by Barbican through the order resource are encrypted using KEKS and then stored in the secret object or is it stored in unencypted format. Any help would be highly appreciated. root@barbican:~# curl -H 'Accept: application/json' -H

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Things to tackle in Liberty

2015-04-17 Thread Fox, Kevin M
True. For example, the infiniband passthrough blueprint might need port type info from neutron-nova? Thanks, Kevin From: Neil Jerram [neil.jer...@metaswitch.com] Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 9:44 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re:

[openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Has Neutron satisfied parity with Nova network FlatDHCP?

2015-04-17 Thread Kevin Benton
If the Neutron topology is configured to use a router connected to an external network and a shared network, will that achieve the same semantics as Nova with a FlatDHCP network? One of the last remaining items that I was aware of was ARP poisoning protection. At the end of Kilo, we added

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] is cloudwatch really deprecated?

2015-04-17 Thread Zane Bitter
On 17/04/15 13:54, Matt Fischer wrote: On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com mailto:zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 17/04/15 12:46, Matt Fischer wrote: The wiki for Using Cloudwatch states: This feature will be deprecated or removed during the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Has Neutron satisfied parity with Nova network FlatDHCP?

2015-04-17 Thread Kevin Benton
But if I understand nova network with FlatDHCP correctly, there is no such thing as a host without a floating IP. So if every instance is given a floating IP in Neutron in a similar fashion, then the lack of SNAT distribution would not matter in that case, correct? On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:26

[openstack-dev] [chef] Started the review to move from stackforge to openstack

2015-04-17 Thread JJ Asghar
Hey Everyone! I’ve started the review [1] to move from stackforge to openstack namespace. I’m looking for comments, ideas and any pointers. Please don’t hesitate to reach out via the review, email, or IRC on freenode. Thanks! JJ Asghar (j^2) [1]: https://review.openstack.org/175000

Re: [openstack-dev] Openstack live migration using devstack

2015-04-17 Thread Erlon Cruz
Had the same error, but with cinder. Did you find find out something about this error? 2015-04-17 14:12:31.957 TRACE cinder Traceback (most recent call last): 2015-04-17 14:12:31.957 TRACE cinder File /usr/local/bin/cinder-volume, line 10, in module 2015-04-17

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] moving sqlite migration scripts to tests

2015-04-17 Thread Zane Bitter
On 16/04/15 04:05, Anant Patil wrote: Hi, Sometime back we had a discussion on IRC regarding sqlite migration scripts. Since sqlite is mostly used for testing, we were thinking about moving the sqlite migration related code to tests folder and keep the migrate_repo sane (with only production

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][policy][neutron] oslo.policy API is not powerful enough to switch Neutron to it

2015-04-17 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Thanks for this analysis Ihar. Some comments inline. On 17 April 2015 at 14:45, Ihar Hrachyshka ihrac...@redhat.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, tl;dr neutron has special semantics for policy targets that relies on private symbols from oslo.policy, and it's

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Linuxbridge as the default in DevStack [was: Status of the nova-network to Neutron migration work]

2015-04-17 Thread Kevin Benton
On the contrary, if you reread the message to which you were previously replying, it's was about the unnecessary complexity of OVS (and Neutron in general) for deployments which explicitly _don't_ need and can never take advantage of self-service networking. The implication being that Neutron

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Linuxbridge as the default in DevStack [was: Status of the nova-network to Neutron migration work]

2015-04-17 Thread Kevin Benton
I definitely understand that. But what is the major complaint from operators? I understood that quote to imply it was around Neutron's model of self-service networking. If the main reason the remaining Nova-net operators don't want to use Neutron is due to the fact that they don't want to deal

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Building images separation and moving images into right place at right time

2015-04-17 Thread Jaromir Coufal
Hey Arkady, yes, this should stay as fundamental requirement. This is tandard Glance functionality, I just want to separate discover and deploy images since these will not be very likely subject of change and they belong into undercloud installation stage. That's why I want to separate

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Things to tackle in Liberty

2015-04-17 Thread Neil Jerram
On 17/04/15 17:16, Jay Pipes wrote: On 04/10/2015 11:48 AM, Neil Jerram wrote: What I imagine, though, is that the _source_ of the plugging information could move from Nova to Neutron, so that future plugging-related code changes are a matter for Neutron rather than for Nova. The plugging

Re: [openstack-dev] [wsme] [ironic] [ceilometer] [magnum] [kite] [tuskar] WSME unmaintained ?

2015-04-17 Thread Julien Danjou
On Fri, Apr 17 2015, Lucas Alvares Gomes wrote: Apparently not. But it would be good to get some bugs fixed in WSME before we come up with a final solution within each OpenStack project: Whether keep WSME or migrate to something else since it requires time. You are now both members of

[openstack-dev] What's Up Doc? April 17, 2015

2015-04-17 Thread Anne Gentle | Just Write Click
_Migration Day!_ Both our End User Guide and our Admin User Guide have been migrated from DocBook source to RST source and now build with Sphinx and a shiny new theme: http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/index.html http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide-admin/index.html Multiple thanks and

[openstack-dev] [neutron] [docs] Networking Guide Doc Day - April 23rd

2015-04-17 Thread Edgar Magana
Hello Folks, I would like to invite all available contributors to help us to complete the OpenStack Networking Guide. We are having a Networking Doc Day on April 23rd in order to review the current guide and make a big push on its content. Let's use both the Neutron and Docs IRC channels:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Linuxbridge as the default in DevStack [was: Status of the nova-network to Neutron migration work]

2015-04-17 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-04-17 10:55:19 -0700 (-0700), Kevin Benton wrote: I understand. What I'm saying is that switching to Linux bridge will not change the networking model to 'just connect everything to a simple flat network'. All of the complaints about self-service networking will still hold. And

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Linuxbridge as the default in DevStack [was: Status of the nova-network to Neutron migration work]

2015-04-17 Thread Salvatore Orlando
And since we've circled back I might add that perhaps we want nova-network to deliver that. Simple, reliable networking leveraging well-established off-the-shelf technologies that satisfies the use cases Jeremy is referring to. If regardless of changes in governance pertaining openstack project

Re: [openstack-dev] Barbican : What is the difference between secret and order resource

2015-04-17 Thread Asha Seshagiri
Thanks a lot John for your response. I also thank everyone who has been responding to my queries if I have missed someone . There was some problem while configuring my email .I do not receive the email response directly from openstack Dev group.I would check the archive folder for that. I will

Re: [openstack-dev] [wsme] [ironic] [ceilometer] [magnum] [kite] [tuskar] WSME unmaintained ?

2015-04-17 Thread Chris Dent
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015, Lucas Alvares Gomes wrote: /me also deliberately volunteers cdent to wsme core :-) Feh. I suppose since most of the recent code and conversation has been you and me, that makes sense. If people agree, I'm happy to participate, but only if you're there too. That's only

Re: [openstack-dev] [wsme] [ironic] [ceilometer] [magnum] [kite] [tuskar] WSME unmaintained ?

2015-04-17 Thread Lucas Alvares Gomes
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015, Lucas Alvares Gomes wrote: /me also deliberately volunteers cdent to wsme core :-) Feh. I suppose since most of the recent code and conversation has been you and me, that makes sense. If people agree, I'm happy to participate, but only if you're there too. That's only

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron scaling datapoints?

2015-04-17 Thread Attila Fazekas
- Original Message - From: joehuang joehu...@huawei.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 9:46:12 AM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron scaling datapoints? Hi, Attila,

[openstack-dev] [nova] No L DB migrations until...

2015-04-17 Thread Dan Smith
Hi all, We're trying to land a specific DB migration as the first in L: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174480/ In order to do that, we need to get some changes into grenade, which are blocked on other housekeeping. That should happen in a week or so. In the meantime, please don't approve any

Re: [openstack-dev] [wsme] [ironic] [ceilometer] [magnum] [kite] [tuskar] WSME unmaintained ?

2015-04-17 Thread Lucas Alvares Gomes
Hi, * Should projects relying on WSME start thinking about migrating their APIs to another technology? Maybe not migrating, but at least not starting something new with it. Oh no, FWIW I don't even consider starting something new as a valid option here. Err, yeah, right. There are 4

[openstack-dev] Candidate proposals for TC (Technical Committee) positions are now open

2015-04-17 Thread Tristan Cacqueray
Candidate proposals for the Technical Committee positions (7 positions) are now open and will remain open until 05:59 UTC April 23, 2015. Candidates for the Technical Committee Positions: Any Foundation individual member can propose their candidacy for an available, directly-elected TC seat. [0]

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] HELP -- Please review some Kilo bug fixes

2015-04-17 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/16/2015 09:54 AM, Bhandaru, Malini K wrote: Hello Nova and Neutron developers! OpenStack China developers held a bug fest April 13-15. Worked on 43 bugs and submitted patches for 29 of them. Etherpad with the bug fix details (at the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Linuxbridge as the default in DevStack [was: Status of the nova-network to Neutron migration work]

2015-04-17 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-04-16 21:17:03 -0700 (-0700), Kevin Benton wrote: What do you disagree with? I was pointing out that using Linux bridge will not reduce the complexity of the model of self-service networking, which is what the quote was complaining about. On the contrary, if you reread the message to

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] on supporting multiple implementations of tripleo-heat-templates

2015-04-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Giulio Fidente's message of 2015-04-17 06:21:28 -0700: Hi, the Heat/Puppet implementation of the Overcloud deployment seems to be surpassing in features the Heat/Elements implementation. The changes for Ceph are an example, the Puppet based version is already adding

[openstack-dev] [heat] is cloudwatch really deprecated?

2015-04-17 Thread Matt Fischer
The wiki for Using Cloudwatch states: This feature will be deprecated or removed during the Havana cycle as we move to using Ceilometer as a metric/alarm service instead. [1] However it seems that cloudwatch is still being developed. So is it deprecated or not? [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] [wsme] [ironic] [ceilometer] [magnum] [kite] [tuskar] WSME unmaintained ?

2015-04-17 Thread Chris K
Hello, No need to do that, I'm OK to add any competent people to wsme-core. :) While I don't have a great deal of experience with the WSME code base (other then being a user of it), As Ironic is currently using WSME I would offer to help. As a core on Ironic I would continue to expect that to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Things to tackle in Liberty

2015-04-17 Thread Neil Jerram
On 17/04/15 17:24, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 12:16:25PM -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: On 04/10/2015 11:48 AM, Neil Jerram wrote: What I imagine, though, is that the _source_ of the plugging information could move from Nova to Neutron, so that future plugging-related code

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] is cloudwatch really deprecated?

2015-04-17 Thread Zane Bitter
On 17/04/15 12:46, Matt Fischer wrote: The wiki for Using Cloudwatch states: This feature will be deprecated or removed during the Havana cycle as we move to using Ceilometer as a metric/alarm service instead. [1] However it seems that cloudwatch is still being developed. It doesn't seem

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova-docker][ceilometer][heat] Autoscaling docker in openstack

2015-04-17 Thread Sergey Kraynev
Let's wait more opinions ;) I don;t think that we know everything. Regards, Sergey. On 17 April 2015 at 18:10, ashish.jai...@wipro.com wrote: So ultimately this means there is no way to autoscale docker containers on openstack until and unless ceilometer adds an inspector for docker

Re: [openstack-dev] [chef] Naming the Project

2015-04-17 Thread Edgar Magana
Nice! Yes, let get Chef as formal OpenStack project. Edgar From: JJ Asghar jasg...@chef.iomailto:jasg...@chef.io Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Friday, April 17, 2015 at 8:41

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Things to tackle in Liberty

2015-04-17 Thread Jay Pipes
On 04/10/2015 11:48 AM, Neil Jerram wrote: What I imagine, though, is that the _source_ of the plugging information could move from Nova to Neutron, so that future plugging-related code changes are a matter for Neutron rather than for Nova. The plugging would still _happen_ from within Nova, as

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Things to tackle in Liberty

2015-04-17 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 12:16:25PM -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: On 04/10/2015 11:48 AM, Neil Jerram wrote: What I imagine, though, is that the _source_ of the plugging information could move from Nova to Neutron, so that future plugging-related code changes are a matter for Neutron rather than for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Linuxbridge as the default in DevStack [was: Status of the nova-network to Neutron migration work]

2015-04-17 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/17/2015 06:23 PM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: Really, what I expect to see long term in a healthy OpenStack ecosystem is some global AppStore like functionality baked in to horizon. A user goes to it, selects my awesome scalable web hosting system,

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] on supporting multiple implementations of tripleo-heat-templates

2015-04-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from James Slagle's message of 2015-04-17 10:49:48 -0700: On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Giulio Fidente's message of 2015-04-17 06:21:28 -0700: Hi, the Heat/Puppet implementation of the Overcloud deployment seems to be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Linuxbridge as the default in DevStack [was: Status of the nova-network to Neutron migration work]

2015-04-17 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-04-17 11:49:23 -0700 (-0700), Kevin Benton wrote: I definitely understand that. But what is the major complaint from operators? I understood that quote to imply it was around Neutron's model of self-service networking. My takeaway from Tom's message was that there was a concern about

[openstack-dev] [puppet] Managing config file values and parameter defaults

2015-04-17 Thread Clayton O'Neill
How to handle config file values, defaults and how they relate to manifest parameters was brought up in the weekly meeting up a few weeks ago. I promised to put something together. I've put written up my thoughts and my understanding of the other viewpoints presented there in an ether pad and

Re: [openstack-dev] Barbican : What is the difference between secret and order resource

2015-04-17 Thread John Wood
Hello Asha, So the last step you have is retrieving a decrypted secret from Barbican. Barbican indeed stores the secret internally encrypted using an internal KEK. When it is retrieved however, it is first decrypted by Barbican and then returned the client decrypted. Beyond TLS to protect

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel]Format of notifications about Ubuntu repositories connectivity

2015-04-17 Thread Tomasz Napierala
On 17 Apr 2015, at 14:35, Maciej Kwiek mkw...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi, I am currently implementing fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1439686 . I plan to notify user about nodes which fail to connect to ubuntu repositories via fuel notifications. My question is as follows:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Linuxbridge as the default in DevStack [was: Status of the nova-network to Neutron migration work]

2015-04-17 Thread Fox, Kevin M
No, the complaints from ops I have heard even internally, which I think is being echo'd here is I understand how linux bridge works, I don't opensvswitch. and I don't want to be bothered to learn to debug openvswitch because I don't think we need it. If linux bridge had feature parity with

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Linuxbridge as the default in DevStack [was: Status of the nova-network to Neutron migration work]

2015-04-17 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Its because someone recommended devstack be switched to linux bridge so that its easier for folks to learn openstack. but my assertion is, if all production sites will have to run ovs (or some vendor plugin) and not linux bridge, your hurting folks by making them think they are learning

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Linuxbridge as the default in DevStack [was: Status of the nova-network to Neutron migration work]

2015-04-17 Thread Salvatore Orlando
On 17 April 2015 at 21:35, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2015-04-17 11:49:23 -0700 (-0700), Kevin Benton wrote: I definitely understand that. But what is the major complaint from operators? I understood that quote to imply it was around Neutron's model of self-service

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