[openstack-dev] [mistral] [vitrage] Propose adding Vitrage's actions to Mistral Actions

2018-04-23 Thread Jaewook Oh
Hello Mistral and Vitrage team, I've been testing vitrage with mistral workflow, but it seems that there are no Vitrage actions in Mistral yet. I think Vitrage actions should be added to Mistral. We can use the actions in mistral workflow to automate lots of repeated tasks as it was originally

Re: [openstack-dev] [mistral] [vitrage] Propose adding Vitrage's actions to Mistral Actions

2018-04-23 Thread Renat Akhmerov
On 23 Apr 2018, 13:38 +0700, Jaewook Oh , wrote: > Hello Mistral and Vitrage team, > > I've been testing vitrage with mistral workflow, > but it seems that there are no Vitrage actions in Mistral yet. > > I think Vitrage actions should be added to Mistral. > We can use the

Re: [openstack-dev] [mistral] [vitrage] Propose adding Vitrage's actions to Mistral Actions

2018-04-23 Thread Afek, Ifat (Nokia - IL/Kfar Sava)
From: Renat Akhmerov Date: Monday, 23 April 2018 at 9:45 On 23 Apr 2018, 13:38 +0700, Jaewook Oh , wrote: Hello Mistral and Vitrage team, I've been testing vitrage with mistral workflow, but it seems that there are no Vitrage actions in Mistral

Re: [openstack-dev] [mistral] [vitrage] Propose adding Vitrage's actions to Mistral Actions

2018-04-23 Thread Jaewook Oh
Hello Renat, I'll join the IRC channel :) Thanks, Jaewook. 2018-04-23 15:45 GMT+09:00 Renat Akhmerov : > On 23 Apr 2018, 13:38 +0700, Jaewook Oh , wrote: > > Hello Mistral and Vitrage team, > > I've been testing vitrage with mistral workflow, >

[openstack-dev] [I18n] Office Hours, Thursday, 2018/04/26 13:00-14:00 UTC & 2018/05/03 07:00-08:00 UTC

2018-04-23 Thread Frank Kloeker
Hello, the I18n team wants to change something in collaboration and communication with other teams and users. Instead of team meetings we offer around the Summit an open communication on Freenode IRC #openstack-i18n channel. Feel free to add your topics on the wiki page on [1]. Or better

[openstack-dev] Fwd: Re: [tripleo][kolla] roadmap on containers workflow

2018-04-23 Thread Bogdan Dobrelya
Added the kolla tag in the hope to get some feedback wrt the question Forwarded Message Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] roadmap on containers workflow Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 10:08:36 +0200 From: Bogdan Dobrelya Organization: Red Hat To:

Re: [openstack-dev] [packaging-rpm][meeting] Proposal for new meeting time

2018-04-23 Thread Thomas Bechtold
Works for me. Tom On 19.04.2018 16:17, Javier Pena wrote: Hello fellow packagers, During today's meeting [1], we discussed the schedule conflicts some of us have with the current meeting slot. As a result, I would like to propose a new meeting time: - Wednesdays, 1 PM UTC (3 PM CEST) So

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] roadmap on containers workflow

2018-04-23 Thread Bogdan Dobrelya
On 4/20/18 8:56 PM, Emilien Macchi wrote: So the role has proven to be useful and we're now sure that we need it to deploy a container registry before any container in the deployment, which means we can't use the puppet code anymore for this service. I propose that we move the role to

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] K8S apiserver key sync

2018-04-23 Thread Spyros Trigazis
Hi Sergey, In magnum queens we can set the private ca as a service account key. Here [1] we can set the ca.key file. When the label cert_manager_api is set to true. Cheers, Spyros [1]

[openstack-dev] [Freezer] New feature to support taking backup by nova and cinder instance name

2018-04-23 Thread vishakha agarwal
Hi Szaher, Sorry I asked for review the patch only for this new feature instead of explaining the background. Let me explain the background of this requirement. This mail is in reference for the https://bugs.launchpad.net/freezer/+bug/1603099 Currently Freezer has feature to take the backup of

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Proposing Marius Cornea core on upgrade bits

2018-04-23 Thread James Slagle
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Emilien Macchi wrote: > Greetings, > > As you probably know mcornea on IRC, Marius Cornea has been contributing on > TripleO for a while, specially on the upgrade bits. > Part of the quality team, he's always testing real customer scenarios and

[openstack-dev] [ironic] Monthly bug day?

2018-04-23 Thread Michael Turek
Hey everyone! We had a bug day about two weeks ago and it went pretty well! At last week's IRC meeting the idea of having one every month was thrown around. What does everyone think about having Bug Day the first Thursday of every month? Thanks, Mike Turek

[openstack-dev] [Vitrage] Vitrage graph error

2018-04-23 Thread MinWookKim
Hello Vitrage team, A few days ago I used Devstack to install the Openstack master version, which included Vitrage. However, I found that the Vitrage graph does not work on the Vitrage-dashboard. The state of all Vitrage components is active. Could you check it once? Thanks.

[openstack-dev] [nova] Notification update week 17

2018-04-23 Thread Balázs Gibizer
Hi, New week, new status mail. Bugs New bugs [Undecided] https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1764927 Should send out notification when instance metadata get updated Nova already sends instance.update notification when instance.metadata is changed so I marked the bug invalid.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][kolla][rdo] Collaboration with Kolla for the RDO test days

2018-04-23 Thread David Moreau Simard
Hi, For a mix of good and bad reasons, we haven't been able to do this until now. The upcoming RDO test days will be May 3rd and 4th and we'll be testing the latest content from Rocky now that M1 has been released. We can re-use the pad we had started last time around [1]. I'll be in touch.

[openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How "active" should the TC be?

2018-04-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
[This is meant to be one of (I hope) several conversation-provoking questions directed at prospective TC members to help the community understand their positions before considering how to vote in the ongoing election.] We frequently have discussions about whether the TC is active enough, in terms

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How "active" should the TC be?

2018-04-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2018-04-23 09:27:09 -0400: > [This is meant to be one of (I hope) several conversation-provoking > questions directed at prospective TC members to help the community > understand their positions before considering how to vote in the > ongoing election.] >

[openstack-dev] [designate] Meeting Times - change to office hours?

2018-04-23 Thread Graham Hayes
Hi All, We moved our meeting time to 14:00UTC on Wednesdays, but attendance has been low, and it is also the middle of the night for one of our cores. I would like to suggest we have an office hours style meeting, with one in the UTC evening and one in the UTC morning. If this seems reasonable

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][plugins] mox -> mock migration

2018-04-23 Thread Akihiro Motoki
Hi horizon plugin developers, As I announced in the quoted mail, Rocky-1 was released and mox is NOT prepared in the horizon test helpers by default now [1]. If your horizon plugin still depends on mox, please ensure to set use_mox = True in your test classes. > 2) After Rocky-1, use_mox of

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question related to new projects

2018-04-23 Thread Graham Hayes
7On 20/04/18 22:26, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Without letting the conversation devolve too much into a discussion > of Adjutant's case, please talk a little about how you would evaluate > a project's application in general. What sorts of things do you > consider when deciding whether a project

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [api] Re-Reminder on the state of WSME

2018-04-23 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
ironic-inspector is using Flask, and it has been quite nice so far. On 04/11/2018 12:56 AM, Michael Johnson wrote: I echo Ben's question about what is the recommended replacement. Not long ago we were advised to use WSME over the alternatives which is why Octavia is using the WSME types and

Re: [openstack-dev] [mistral] [vitrage] Propose adding Vitrage's actions to Mistral Actions

2018-04-23 Thread Dougal Matthews
I spoke with Jaewook briefly in #openstack-mistral, for anyone interested in following this work there is now a blueprint to track it. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-vitrage-actions Thanks all On 23 April 2018 at 07:57, Jaewook Oh wrote: > Hello

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question related to new projects

2018-04-23 Thread Chris Dent
On Fri, 20 Apr 2018, Doug Hellmann wrote: [This is meant to be one of (I hope) several conversation-provoking questions directed at prospective TC members to help the community understand their positions before considering how to vote in the ongoing election.] Thanks for getting the ball

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

2018-04-23 Thread Graham Hayes
On 18/04/18 11:38, Chris Dent wrote: > On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Thierry Carrez wrote: > >> So... Is there any specific topic you think we should cover in that >> meeting ? > > The topics: > > 1. What are we to do, as a community, when external pressures for > results are not matched by contribution

Re: [openstack-dev] [searchlight][release] Searchlight deliverable type

2018-04-23 Thread Sean McGinnis
On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 09:16:03AM -0500, Sean McGinnis wrote: > Hello searchlighters, > > The Rocky 1 milestone was last Thursday, and there has been no release request > was submitted for the searchlight deliverables [1]. > > I remember some discussion at the last Denver PTG about searchlight

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question related to new projects

2018-04-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Zhipeng Huang's message of 2018-04-21 07:06:30 +0800: > As the one who just lead a new project into governance last year, I think I > could take a first stab at it. > > For me the current requirements in general works fine, as I emphasized in > my recent blog [0], the four opens are

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How should we handle projects with overlapping feature sets?

2018-04-23 Thread Thierry Carrez
Doug Hellmann wrote: > Where do you draw the line at "gratuitous"? The way I interpret "gratuitous" here is: is the new project using a technically-different approach to the same problem, or is it just another group working at the same problem in the same way ? Is the new project just a way to

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question related to new projects

2018-04-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-04-23 12:15:24 +0100: > 7On 20/04/18 22:26, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > Without letting the conversation devolve too much into a discussion > > of Adjutant's case, please talk a little about how you would evaluate > > a project's application in general.

[openstack-dev] [bifrost][bandit][magnum][ironic][kolla][pyeclib][mistral] Please merge bindep changes

2018-04-23 Thread Paul Belanger
Greetings, Could you please review the following bindep.txt[1] changes to your projects and approve them, it would be helpful to the openstack-infra team. We are looking to remove some legacy jenkins scripts from openstack-infra/project-config and your projects are still using them. The

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How should we handle projects with overlapping feature sets?

2018-04-23 Thread Zhipeng Huang
I think this depends on the nature of the project. For deployment tools, as we also have witnessed in OPNFV, it tends to have multiple solutions. So it is normal to have multiple such projects although they are solving the same problem generally speaking. For projects that has a clear definition

[openstack-dev] [searchlight][release] Searchlight deliverable type

2018-04-23 Thread Sean McGinnis
Hello searchlighters, The Rocky 1 milestone was last Thursday, and there has been no release request was submitted for the searchlight deliverables [1]. I remember some discussion at the last Denver PTG about searchlight and that it is basically considered "code complete" at this point until any

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How "active" should the TC be?

2018-04-23 Thread Thierry Carrez
Doug Hellmann wrote: > [...] > Please describe one case where we were either active or reactive > and how that was shown to be the right choice over time. I think that the work on documenting our key principles was proactive, and it really helped to set expectations for new people in our

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question related to new projects

2018-04-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Sean McGinnis's message of 2018-04-22 21:01:46 -0500: > > > > We are discussing adding at least one new project this cycle, and > > the specific case of Adjutant has brought up questions about the > > criteria we use for evaluating new projects when they apply to > > become

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How "active" should the TC be?

2018-04-23 Thread Zhipeng Huang
In general I would prefer TC take an active role regarding exploring new use cases and technology directions leverage the existing OpenStack infrastructure. I would against TC being too active on project level governance. For example we have been discussing about edge computing recently and we

[openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How should we handle projects with overlapping feature sets?

2018-04-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
[This is meant to be one of (I hope) several conversation-provoking questions directed at prospective TC members to help the community understand their positions before considering how to vote in the ongoing election.] In the course of evaluating new projects that have asked to join as official

[openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How can we make contributing to OpenStack easier?

2018-04-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
[This is meant to be one of (I hope) several conversation-provoking questions directed at prospective TC members to help the community understand their positions before considering how to vote in the ongoing election.] Over the last year we have seen some contraction in the number of companies

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How "active" should the TC be?

2018-04-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Zhipeng Huang's message of 2018-04-23 21:50:15 +0800: > In general I would prefer TC take an active role regarding exploring new > use cases and technology directions leverage the existing OpenStack > infrastructure. I would against TC being too active on project level > governance.

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How can we make contributing to OpenStack easier?

2018-04-23 Thread Zhipeng Huang
Culture wise, being too IRC-centric is definitely not helping, from my own experience getting new Cyborg developer joining our weekly meeting from China. Well we could always argue it is part of a open source/hacker culture and preferable to commercial solutions that have the constant risk of

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How "active" should the TC be?

2018-04-23 Thread Zhipeng Huang
I don't have specific ideas now, but it would be great to have TC publish something like a new direction outlook per cycle or per year, to summarize that these x,y,z new areas are what the OpenStack Technical Committee considers worth exploring for new directions and we will sponsor projects that

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

2018-04-23 Thread Zhipeng Huang
big +1 to Graham's suggestion On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:36 PM, Graham Hayes wrote: > On 18/04/18 11:38, Chris Dent wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > > >> So... Is there any specific topic you think we should cover in that > >> meeting ? > > > > The topics:

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question related to new projects

2018-04-23 Thread Zhipeng Huang
I think it actually relies upon the new team to actively reaching out to the existing team. The new team cannot be lazy and wait for something happen for them, they have to keep reaching out and believe me the core developers from the existing official project will lend a hand in the end :) For

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] Monthly bug day?

2018-04-23 Thread Jim Rollenhagen
On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 8:04 AM, Michael Turek wrote: > Hey everyone! > > We had a bug day about two weeks ago and it went pretty well! At last > week's IRC meeting the idea of having one every month was thrown around. > > What does everyone think about having Bug Day

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question related to new projects

2018-04-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Rico Lin's message of 2018-04-22 16:50:51 +0800: > Thanks, Doug, for raising this campaign question > > > Here are my answers: > > > ***How you would evaluate a project's application in general > > First I would work through the requirements ([1]) to evaluate projects. > Since

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question related to new projects

2018-04-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2018-04-22 15:10:40 +0200: > Doug Hellmann wrote: > > [This is meant to be one of (I hope) several conversation-provoking > > questions directed at prospective TC members to help the community > > understand their positions before considering how to vote

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question related to new projects

2018-04-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Chris Dent's message of 2018-04-23 12:09:42 +0100: > On Fri, 20 Apr 2018, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > [This is meant to be one of (I hope) several conversation-provoking > > questions directed at prospective TC members to help the community > > understand their positions before

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

2018-04-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-04-23 15:36:32 +0100: > On 18/04/18 11:38, Chris Dent wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > > >> So... Is there any specific topic you think we should cover in that > >> meeting ? > > > > The topics: > > > > 1. What are we to do,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

2018-04-23 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-04-23 15:36:32 +0100 (+0100), Graham Hayes wrote: > I think as an add on to this, would to ask the board to talk to members > and see what contributions they have made to the technical side of > OpenStack. > > This should not just be Number of commits / reviews / bugs etc but > also the

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How can we make contributing to OpenStack easier?

2018-04-23 Thread Graham Hayes
On 23/04/18 15:06, Doug Hellmann wrote: > [This is meant to be one of (I hope) several conversation-provoking > questions directed at prospective TC members to help the community > understand their positions before considering how to vote in the > ongoing election.] > > Over the last year we have

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How "active" should the TC be?

2018-04-23 Thread Chris Dent
On Mon, 23 Apr 2018, Doug Hellmann wrote: We frequently have discussions about whether the TC is active enough, in terms of driving new policies, technology choices, and other issues that affect the entire community. Another good question. Like all the others I wish they had come a bit

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How should we handle projects with overlapping feature sets?

2018-04-23 Thread Chris Dent
On Mon, 23 Apr 2018, Doug Hellmann wrote: Where do you draw the line at "gratuitous"? What benefits and drawbacks do you see in supporting multiple tools with similar features? How would our community be different, in positive and negative ways, if we were more strict about avoiding such

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question related to new projects

2018-04-23 Thread Zane Bitter
On 20/04/18 17:26, Doug Hellmann wrote: [This is meant to be one of (I hope) several conversation-provoking questions directed at prospective TC members to help the community understand their positions before considering how to vote in the ongoing election.] Thanks Doug, I think this is a

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How should we handle projects with overlapping feature sets?

2018-04-23 Thread Graham Hayes
On 23/04/18 14:50, Doug Hellmann wrote: > [This is meant to be one of (I hope) several conversation-provoking > questions directed at prospective TC members to help the community > understand their positions before considering how to vote in the > ongoing election.] > > In the course of

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question related to new projects

2018-04-23 Thread Graham Hayes
On 23/04/18 17:14, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-04-23 16:27:04 +0100: >> On 23/04/18 16:04, Doug Hellmann wrote: >>> Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-04-23 12:15:24 +0100: 7On 20/04/18 22:26, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Without letting

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How can we make contributing to OpenStack easier?

2018-04-23 Thread Thierry Carrez
Doug Hellmann wrote: > Over the last year we have seen some contraction in the number of > companies and individuals contributing to OpenStack. At the same > time we have started seeing contributions from other companies and > individuals. To some degree this contraction and shift in contributor >

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question related to new projects

2018-04-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-04-23 16:27:04 +0100: > On 23/04/18 16:04, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-04-23 12:15:24 +0100: > >> 7On 20/04/18 22:26, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >> > >>> Without letting the conversation devolve too much into a

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question related to new projects

2018-04-23 Thread Thierry Carrez
Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2018-04-22 15:10:40 +0200: >> For the product fit, there is also a lot of room for interpretation. For >> me it boils down to whether "OpenStack" (the product) is better with >> that project "in" rather than with that project "out".

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How can we make contributing to OpenStack easier?

2018-04-23 Thread Chris Dent
On Mon, 23 Apr 2018, Doug Hellmann wrote: What aspects of our policies or culture make contributing to OpenStack more difficult than contributing to other open source projects? Size, isolation, and perfectionism. Size in at least three dimensions: * the entire community * individual

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question related to new projects

2018-04-23 Thread Graham Hayes
On 23/04/18 16:04, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-04-23 12:15:24 +0100: >> 7On 20/04/18 22:26, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> >>> Without letting the conversation devolve too much into a discussion >>> of Adjutant's case, please talk a little about how you would

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question related to new projects

2018-04-23 Thread Sean McGinnis
> > > > I think one of the important things is if it fits in to furthering what is > > "OpenStack", as far as whether it is a service or functionality that is > > needed > > and useful for those running an OpenStack cloud. This is one of the parts > > that > > may be more on the subjective

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] Monthly bug day?

2018-04-23 Thread Sam Betts (sambetts)
100% on board with this, I think it was really productive! Sam On 23/04/2018, 15:44, "Jim Rollenhagen" > wrote: On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 8:04 AM, Michael Turek > wrote: Hey

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How can we make contributing to OpenStack easier?

2018-04-23 Thread Tim Bell
One of the challenges in the academic sector is the time from lightbulb moment to code commit. Many of the academic resource opportunities are short term (e.g. PhDs, student projects, government funded projects) and there is a latency in current system to onboard, get the appropriate

[openstack-dev] Catching missing or stale package requirements in requirements.txt

2018-04-23 Thread Ken Giusti
Hi Folks, Some of the Oslo libraries have a tox test that does the above [0]. This ensures that our requirements.txt file is kept current with the code. This test uses a tool called pip_check_reqs [1]. Unfortunately this tool is not compatible with pip version 10, and it appears as if the

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How can we make contributing to OpenStack easier?

2018-04-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2018-04-23 12:35:07 -0500: > On 4/23/2018 12:18 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > I would like for us to collect some more data about what efforts > > teams are making with encouraging new contributors, and what seems > > to be working or not. In the past we've

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question related to new projects

2018-04-23 Thread Rico Lin
2018-04-23 22:43 GMT+08:00 Doug Hellmann : > > Excerpts from Rico Lin's message of 2018-04-22 16:50:51 +0800: > > Thanks, Doug, for raising this campaign question > > > > > > Here are my answers: > > > > > > ***How you would evaluate a project's application in general > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][TripleO] - Getting attributes of openstack resources not created by the stack for TripleO NetworkConfig.

2018-04-23 Thread Dan Sneddon
On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Harald Jensås wrote: > On Fri, 2018-04-20 at 14:44 +0200, Thomas Herve wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Harald Jensås > > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Hi, thanks for sending this. Responses inline. > > > > > When

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How "active" should the TC be?

2018-04-23 Thread Graham Hayes
On 23/04/18 14:27, Doug Hellmann wrote: > [This is meant to be one of (I hope) several conversation-provoking > questions directed at prospective TC members to help the community > understand their positions before considering how to vote in the > ongoing election.] > > We frequently have

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How can we make contributing to OpenStack easier?

2018-04-23 Thread Chris Dent
On Mon, 23 Apr 2018, Tim Bell wrote: One of the challenges in the academic sector is the time from lightbulb moment to code commit. Many of the academic resource opportunities are short term (e.g. PhDs, student projects, government funded projects) and there is a latency in current system to

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How should we handle projects with overlapping feature sets?

2018-04-23 Thread Rico Lin
*Thanks, Doug for bringing out this campaign questionI think we have a start now with providing a decent map to show services in OpenStack and fill in with projects. What we should have and will be nice is to ask projects to search through the map (with a brief introduction of services) when

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question related to new projects

2018-04-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Jeremy Stanley's message of 2018-04-23 17:02:07 +: > On 2018-04-23 12:02:14 -0400 (-0400), Zane Bitter wrote: > [...] > > The main thing I will be looking out for in those cases is that > > the project followed the Four Opens *from the beginning*. Projects > > that start from a

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question related to new projects

2018-04-23 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-04-23 13:14:59 -0400 (-0400), Doug Hellmann wrote: [...] > I hope that no one considers any of this "noise," so thank you for > highlighting that point. Oh, yes I didn't mean to imply that any of the responses so far have been noise, but I was walking a thin line on it being a hollow sort

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question related to new projects

2018-04-23 Thread Graham Hayes
On 23/04/18 18:14, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-04-23 17:23:20 +0100: >> On 23/04/18 17:14, Doug Hellmann wrote: >>> Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-04-23 16:27:04 +0100: On 23/04/18 16:04, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Graham

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How can we make contributing to OpenStack easier?

2018-04-23 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 4/23/2018 12:18 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: I would like for us to collect some more data about what efforts teams are making with encouraging new contributors, and what seems to be working or not. In the past we've done pretty well at finding new techniques by experimenting within one team and

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How should we handle projects with overlapping feature sets?

2018-04-23 Thread Zane Bitter
On 23/04/18 09:50, Doug Hellmann wrote: [This is meant to be one of (I hope) several conversation-provoking questions directed at prospective TC members to help the community understand their positions before considering how to vote in the ongoing election.] In the course of evaluating new

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How can we make contributing to OpenStack easier?

2018-04-23 Thread Rico Lin
** What aspects of our policies or culture make contributing to OpenStackmore difficult than contributing to other open source projects?To fully understand the map of OpenStack services is a huge challenge, especially for new join developers. And for project teams, might not provide new

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question related to new projects

2018-04-23 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-04-23 12:02:14 -0400 (-0400), Zane Bitter wrote: [...] > The main thing I will be looking out for in those cases is that > the project followed the Four Opens *from the beginning*. Projects > that start from a code dump are much less likely to attract other > contributors in my view. Open

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question related to new projects

2018-04-23 Thread Chris Dent
On Mon, 23 Apr 2018, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Chris Dent's message of 2018-04-23 12:09:42 +0100: I'd like to see us work harder to refine the long term goals we are trying to satisfy with the projects that make up OpenStack. This will require us to continue the never-ending discussion

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question related to new projects

2018-04-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-04-23 17:23:20 +0100: > On 23/04/18 17:14, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-04-23 16:27:04 +0100: > >> On 23/04/18 16:04, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >>> Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-04-23 12:15:24 +0100:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][TripleO] - Getting attributes of openstack resources not created by the stack for TripleO NetworkConfig.

2018-04-23 Thread Harald Jensås
On Fri, 2018-04-20 at 14:44 +0200, Thomas Herve wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Harald Jensås > wrote: > > Hi, > > Hi, thanks for sending this. Responses inline. > > > When configuring TripleO deployments with nodes on routed ctlplane > > networks we need to pass

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How can we make contributing to OpenStack easier?

2018-04-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Chris Dent's message of 2018-04-23 17:50:31 +0100: > On Mon, 23 Apr 2018, Tim Bell wrote: > > > One of the challenges in the academic sector is the time from > > lightbulb moment to code commit. Many of the academic resource > > opportunities are short term (e.g. PhDs, student

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How can we make contributing to OpenStack easier?

2018-04-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Rico Lin's message of 2018-04-24 00:54:14 +0800: > ** What aspects of our policies or culture make contributing to > OpenStackmore difficult than contributing to other open source projects?To > fully understand the map of OpenStack services is a huge challenge, > especially for new

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How "active" should the TC be?

2018-04-23 Thread Rico Lin
*IMO TC should be more active as possible. Since we try to use this position to make policies, we should also consider hard how we can broadcast those policies to each developer to provide guidelines and to get possible feedbacks.To reach out current/potential technical contributors, to sell this

Re: [openstack-dev] [mistral] September PTG in Denver

2018-04-23 Thread Kendall Nelson
Hey Dougal, I think I had said May 2nd in my initial email asking about attendance. If you can get an answer out of your team by then I would greatly appreciate it! If you need more time please let me know by then (May 2nd) instead. -Kendall (diablo_rojo) On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 8:17 AM Dougal

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon] Release of openstack/xstatic-angular-vis failed

2018-04-23 Thread Andreas Jaeger
On 2018-04-23 21:45, Sean McGinnis wrote: > See below for logs from a failed xstatic release job. It appears something is > not set up right with this job. > > "can't open file 'xstatic_check_version.py': [Errno 2] No such file or > directory" > > I missed it initially, but this release did not

[openstack-dev] [os-upstream-institute] Prep call for Vancouver today

2018-04-23 Thread Ildiko Vancsa
Hi Training Team, It is a friendly reminder that we will have a conference call on Zoom today at 2200 UTC as opposed to the weekly meeting to better sync up before the training in Vancouver. You can find the call details here:

[openstack-dev] [horizon] Release of openstack/xstatic-angular-vis failed

2018-04-23 Thread Sean McGinnis
See below for logs from a failed xstatic release job. It appears something is not set up right with this job. "can't open file 'xstatic_check_version.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory" I missed it initially, but this release did not actually contain any functional change, so I think it is

[openstack-dev] [masakari] Introspective Instance Monitoring through QEMU Guest Agent

2018-04-23 Thread Kwan, Louie
Submitted the following review on January 17, 2018, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534958/ Would like to know who else could be on the reviewer list ? or anything else is needed for the next step? Also, I am planning to attend our coming Masakari Weekly meeting, April 24, 0400 UTC in

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How "active" should the TC be?

2018-04-23 Thread Sean McGinnis
> > If you think the TC should tend to be more active in driving change > than it is today, please describe the changes (policy, culture, > etc.) you think would need to be made to do that effectively (not > which policies you want us to be more active on, but *how* to > organize the TC to be

[openstack-dev] [ceilometer] Ceilometer-file-publisher-compression-csv-format

2018-04-23 Thread Kwan, Louie
Submitted the following review on April 19, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/562768/ Would like to know who else could be on the reviewer list and anything else for the next step? Thanks. Louie __ OpenStack Development

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][placement] Trying to summarize bp/glance-image-traits scheduling alternatives for rebuild

2018-04-23 Thread Eric Fried
Semantically, GET /allocation_candidates where we don't actually want to allocate anything (i.e. we don't want to use the returned candidates) is goofy, and talking about what the result would look like when there's no `resources` is going to spider into some weird questions. Like what does the

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How can we make contributing to OpenStack easier?

2018-04-23 Thread Zane Bitter
On 23/04/18 10:06, Doug Hellmann wrote: [This is meant to be one of (I hope) several conversation-provoking questions directed at prospective TC members to help the community understand their positions before considering how to vote in the ongoing election.] Over the last year we have seen some

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Proposing Marius Cornea core on upgrade bits

2018-04-23 Thread Emilien Macchi
Thanks everyone for your positive feedback. I've updated Gerrit! Welcome Marius and thanks again for your hard work! On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 4:55 AM, James Slagle wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Emilien Macchi > wrote: > > Greetings, > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][placement] Trying to summarize bp/glance-image-traits scheduling alternatives for rebuild

2018-04-23 Thread Jay Pipes
On 04/23/2018 03:48 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: We seem to be at a bit of an impasse in this spec amendment [1] so I want to try and summarize the alternative solutions as I see them. The overall goal of the blueprint is to allow defining traits via image properties, like flavor extra specs.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][TripleO] - Getting attributes of openstack resources not created by the stack for TripleO NetworkConfig.

2018-04-23 Thread Thomas Herve
On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 7:16 PM, Harald Jensås wrote: > On Fri, 2018-04-20 at 14:44 +0200, Thomas Herve wrote: >> To make it clear, what you want to prevent is the need to add more >> keys in network_data.yaml? >> >> As those had to be provided at some point, I wonder if

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][placement] Trying to summarize bp/glance-image-traits scheduling alternatives for rebuild

2018-04-23 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 4/23/2018 3:26 PM, Eric Fried wrote: No, the question you're really asking in this case is, "Do the resource providers in this tree contain (or not contain) these traits?" Which to me, translates directly to: GET /resource_providers?in_tree=$rp_uuid={$TRAIT|!$TRAIT, ...} ...which we

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][TripleO] - Getting attributes of openstack resources not created by the stack for TripleO NetworkConfig.

2018-04-23 Thread Thomas Herve
On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 8:09 PM, Dan Sneddon wrote: > We could add the ControlPlaneDefaultRoute and ControlPlaneSubnetCidr to > network_data.yaml, but this would involve some duplication of configuration > data, since those are currently defined in undercloud.conf. A more

[openstack-dev] [nova] Do we need bp/list-show-all-server-migration-types?

2018-04-23 Thread Matt Riedemann
Looking over the things in the runways queue [1], excluding the zVM driver (because I'm not sure what the status is on that thread), the next in line is blueprint list-show-all-server-migration-types [2]. I know this has been approved since Pike, but I wanted to raise some questions again [3]

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How can we make contributing to OpenStack easier?

2018-04-23 Thread Sean McGinnis
> > Over the last year we have seen some contraction in the number of > companies and individuals contributing to OpenStack. At the same > time we have started seeing contributions from other companies and > individuals. To some degree this contraction and shift in contributor > base is a natural

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][placement] Trying to summarize bp/glance-image-traits scheduling alternatives for rebuild

2018-04-23 Thread Arvind N
Thanks for the detailed options Matt/eric/jay. Just few of my thoughts, For #1, we can make the explanation very clear that we rejected the request because the original traits specified in the original image and the new traits specified in the new image do not match and hence rebuild is not

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][placement] Trying to summarize bp/glance-image-traits scheduling alternatives for rebuild

2018-04-23 Thread Eric Fried
> for the GET > /resource_providers?in_tree==, nested > resource providers and allocation pose a problem see #3 above. This *would* work as a quick up-front check as Jay described (if you get no results from this, you know that at least one of your image traits doesn't exist anywhere in the tree)

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] campaign question: How can we make contributing to OpenStack easier?

2018-04-23 Thread Mohammed Naser
On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > [This is meant to be one of (I hope) several conversation-provoking > questions directed at prospective TC members to help the community > understand their positions before considering how to vote in the > ongoing

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