Re: [openstack-dev] Meeting time congestion

2014-01-13 Thread Matthias Runge
On 01/13/2014 09:33 PM, Lyle, David wrote: > With all the warranted meeting time shuffling that has been happening > recently, and the addition of so many projects and sub-teams, the > meeting calendar for #openstack-meeting and #openstack-meeting-alt > [1] is relatively full. So recently, when tr

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Sofware Config progress

2014-01-13 Thread Prasad Vellanki
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Steven Dake wrote: > that Steve Thanks for detailed email. Apologize for the delayed response but we have been thinking about how does software config fit into configuring network and service function devices. I agree with you that in general it is best to get ap

Re: [openstack-dev] [climate][cafe] Climate and Cafe teams meeting

2014-01-13 Thread Dina Belova
Ok for me :) On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote: > It's ok for me. > > P.S. link to the event time - > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Savanna+Meeting&iso=20140117T06 > > CET 07:00 am > MSK 10:00 am > PST 10:00 pm > > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 2:07

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Detect changes in object model

2014-01-13 Thread Wang, Shane
Hi Dan, are you going to cook a patch to expand the base class? Or we can do that ourselves? For the list, I also agree your dirty assumption. -- Shane -Original Message- From: Dan Smith [mailto:d...@danplanet.com] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 10:42 PM To: Wang, Shane; OpenStack Deve

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] javascript templating library choice for status pages

2014-01-13 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
@Michael, very nice conclusion, absolutely agree. On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Michael Krotscheck wrote: > On 01/13/2014 01:12 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > >> >> Well, as an expert in the area, particular recommendations would be >> appreciated. I don't feel like we necessarily need one answer, b

Re: [openstack-dev] [climate][cafe] Climate and Cafe teams meeting

2014-01-13 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
It's ok for me. P.S. link to the event time - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Savanna+Meeting&iso=20140117T06 CET 07:00 am MSK 10:00 am PST 10:00 pm On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 2:07 AM, Alan TaN wrote: > Hi guys, > > > > Thanks for accommodating to our time. UTC 0600 so

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] api schema validation pattern changes

2014-01-13 Thread Jay Pipes
On Tue, 2014-01-14 at 11:45 +0800, Christopher Yeoh wrote: > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Jay Pipes > wrote: > > We don't need API extensions and they make our Compute API > laughably complex and cumbersome. We should ditch entirely the > concept of API extens

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] api schema validation pattern changes

2014-01-13 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: > > We don't need API extensions and they make our Compute API laughably > complex and cumbersome. We should ditch entirely the concept of API > extensions in our next Compute API major release. > > I think it way too late in the cycle to make th

Re: [openstack-dev] [wsme] Undefined attributes in WSME

2014-01-13 Thread Kenichi Oomichi
Hi Doug, > -Original Message- > From: Doug Hellmann [mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 12:07 AM > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [wsme] Undefined attributes in WSME > > > > > On Mon, J

[openstack-dev] [gantt] Scheduler sub-group agenda 1/14

2014-01-13 Thread Dugger, Donald D
1) Memcached based scheduler updates 2) Scheduler code forklift 3) Instance groups -- Don Dugger "Censeo Toto nos in Kansa esse decisse." - D. Gale Ph: 303/443-3786 ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.opens

[openstack-dev] [infra] Meeting Tuesday January 14th at 19:00 UTC

2014-01-13 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
The OpenStack Infrastructure (Infra) team is hosting our weekly meeting tomorrow, Tuesday January 14th, at 19:00 UTC in #openstack-meeting Meeting agenda available here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting (anyone is welcome to to add agenda items) Everyone interested in inf

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] api schema validation pattern changes

2014-01-13 Thread Jay Pipes
Caution! Long and opinionated response. tl;dr: A versioned API with no API extensions is *not* a static API. If you want to look at a heavily versioned API without extensions for a Compute control API that has successfully evolved over the years to meet its customers' needs, you need look no furt

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Service VM: Meeting on framework for advanced service

2014-01-13 Thread Isaku Yamahata
I sent out the invitation mail to the attendees. If you haven't received it for some reason (sorry if I missed anyone), please let me know. (mail to isaku.yamahata at intel.com or IRC) If you haven't expressed your interest yet, it's still open so that, don't hesitate. Thanks, On Fri, Jan 10, 20

Re: [openstack-dev] [climate][cafe] Climate and Café teams meeting

2014-01-13 Thread Nikolay Starodubtsev
UTC 0600 sounds good for me Nikolay Starodubtsev Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. Skype: dark_harlequine1 2014/1/13 Dina Belova > Guys from Cafe command are from New Zealand - UTC+13 :) > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Sergey Lukjanov > wrote: > >> Are there any guys from PST timez

Re: [openstack-dev] [wsme] Undefined attributes in WSME

2014-01-13 Thread Jamie Lennox
On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 10:05 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Jamie Lennox > wrote: > On Fri, 2014-01-10 at 10:23 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Jamie Lennox >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPv6] Subnet mode - API extension or change to core API?

2014-01-13 Thread Salvatore Orlando
I don't think I can use better words than Mark's. So I have nothing to add. Salvatore On 13 January 2014 23:29, Mark McClain wrote: > > On Jan 13, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Collins, Sean < > sean_colli...@cable.comcast.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I posted a message to the mailing list[1] when I fir

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neturon][CI] Embrane CI is attacking gerrit

2014-01-13 Thread Ivar Lazzaro
Hi Nachi, Russel I've stopped our Jenkins server... That should stop this crazy attack. However, I am wondering how this happened, we didn't set any voting mechanism on it yet... Sorry about that, Ivar. -Original Message- From: Nachi Ueno [mailto:na...@ntti3.com] Sent: Monday, January

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Deployment Management section - Wireframes

2014-01-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Walls, Jeffrey Joel (Cloud OS R&D)'s message of 2014-01-13 06:54:11 -0800: > > From: Jaromir Coufal [mailto:jcou...@redhat.com] > >> On 2014/10/01 19:02, Dougal Matthews wrote: > > > > - If I remove some instances, do I as the administrator need to care > > > which are removed? Do w

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][Testr] Brand new checkout of Neutron... getting insane unit test run results

2014-01-13 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 22:16 +, Mark McClain wrote: > I’d rather us explicitly skip the tests if the module is not available. I think the danger with that is that you'll have developers running a bunch of tests, getting skipped results (not failures), and thinking that everything is hunky-dory

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neturon][CI] Embrane CI is attacking gerrit

2014-01-13 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-01-13 17:38:46 -0500 (-0500), Russell Bryant wrote: > On 01/13/2014 05:26 PM, Nachi Ueno wrote: > [...] > > Embrane CI looks like broken, and we should stop it now. > > A good place to bring up issues like this is #openstack-infra on > IRC. I brought it up there and Jeremy Stanley got it d

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neturon][CI] Embrane CI is attacking gerrit

2014-01-13 Thread Nachi Ueno
Hi Russell Thanks. I got it 2014/1/13 Russell Bryant : > On 01/13/2014 05:26 PM, Nachi Ueno wrote: >> Hi folks >> >> I get Embrane CI comment in my review about 10 times in min. >> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58897/ >> >> Embrane CI looks like broken, and we should stop it now. > > A good pl

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.config] Centralized config management

2014-01-13 Thread Nachi Ueno
2014/1/13 Clint Byrum : > Excerpts from Nachi Ueno's message of 2014-01-13 10:35:07 -0800: >> Hi Clint >> >> 2014/1/10 Clint Byrum : >> > Excerpts from Nachi Ueno's message of 2014-01-10 13:42:30 -0700: >> >> Hi Flavio, Clint >> >> >> >> I agree with you guys. >> >> sorry, may be, I wasn't clear. M

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party-testing] Sharing information

2014-01-13 Thread Mohammad Banikazemi
Hi everybody, I see that we already have at least two 3rd party testing setups (from Arista and Midokura) up and running. Noticed their votes on our newly submitted plugin. The etherpad which is to be used for sharing information about setting up 3rd party testing (as well as multi-node testing)

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] need input on new config option for logging translations

2014-01-13 Thread Luis A. Garcia
On 1/13/2014 1:47 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: There's a review in Oslo to provide a configuration option to turn on the ability to log in a second language by specifying the locale (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62508/). Given the recent discussion of adding more configuration options, I wanted

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neturon][CI] Embrane CI is attacking gerrit

2014-01-13 Thread Russell Bryant
On 01/13/2014 05:26 PM, Nachi Ueno wrote: > Hi folks > > I get Embrane CI comment in my review about 10 times in min. > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58897/ > > Embrane CI looks like broken, and we should stop it now. A good place to bring up issues like this is #openstack-infra on IRC. I br

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPv6] Subnet mode - API extension or change to core API?

2014-01-13 Thread Mark McClain
On Jan 13, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Collins, Sean wrote: > Hi, > > I posted a message to the mailing list[1] when I first began work on the > subnet mode keyword, asking if anyone had a suggestion about if it > should be an API extension or can be a change to the core API. >> I don't know if adding

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] api schema validation pattern changes

2014-01-13 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 09:40 -0500, Ryan Petrello wrote: > > Jay, I’ll +1 to that. As I’ve been tinkering with potential Pecan > support for the Nova API, I’ve run into the same issue w/ the API > composition being seriously complicated (to the

[openstack-dev] [Neturon][CI] Embrane CI is attacking gerrit

2014-01-13 Thread Nachi Ueno
Hi folks I get Embrane CI comment in my review about 10 times in min. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58897/ Embrane CI looks like broken, and we should stop it now. Best Nachi ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://l

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][Testr] Brand new checkout of Neutron... getting insane unit test run results

2014-01-13 Thread Mark McClain
I’d rather us explicitly skip the tests if the module is not available. mark On Jan 13, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Collins, Sean wrote: > On Wed, Jan 01, 2014 at 07:56:22PM -0800, Clark Boylan wrote: >> It looks like the problem is that there is a dependency on pyudev >> which only works properly on Li

Re: [openstack-dev] The extra_resource in compute node object

2014-01-13 Thread Jiang, Yunhong
> -Original Message- > From: Dan Smith [mailto:d...@danplanet.com] > Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 6:35 AM > To: Jiang, Yunhong; Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services) (pmur...@hp.com) > Cc: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: The extra_resource in compute node object > > > This

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][qa]API testing update

2014-01-13 Thread Sukhdev Kapur
Sounds good. Thanks for clarification. -Sukhdev On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 7:24 AM, Miguel Lavalle wrote: > Sukhdev, > > Thanks for your comment. Eugene summarized very well the reason I didin't > specify any testing dealing with the ml2 plugin. It > > Cheers > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 11:50 P

Re: [openstack-dev] [climate][cafe] Climate and Cafe teams meeting

2014-01-13 Thread Alan TaN
Hi guys, Thanks for accommodating to our time. UTC 0600 sounds good for us. I was wondering if Friday (17th Jan) UTC 0600 will be a good time for everyone else? Cheers, Alan Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 19:52:28 +0400 From: Dina Belova mailto:dbel...@mirantis.com> > To: "OpenStack Devel

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] javascript templating library choice for status pages

2014-01-13 Thread Michael Krotscheck
On 01/13/2014 01:12 PM, Sean Dague wrote: Well, as an expert in the area, particular recommendations would be appreciated. I don't feel like we necessarily need one answer, but it would be nice knock some of the options off the table. I'd say: Start with handlebars, unless you want to lay appl

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] javascript templating library choice for status pages

2014-01-13 Thread Sean Dague
On 01/13/2014 03:06 PM, Michael Krotscheck wrote: > On 01/13/2014 05:05 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >> Honestly, I've not done enough large scale js projects to know whether >> we'd consider status.js to be big or not. I just know it's definitely >> getting too big for += all the html together and doing

[openstack-dev] [qa] [ceilometer] Can this be fixed

2014-01-13 Thread David Kranz
A bug was introduced before the holidays that made tempest stop failing successful builds that have new log ERRORs. We are ready to close that bug but unfortunately some new ones slipped through as indicated in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1268730 I just filed. It would be great i

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] Improving oslo-incubator update.py

2014-01-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell < kevin.mitch...@rackspace.com> wrote: > On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 12:07 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > We can't just compute the hash of the modules in the project receiving > > copies, and then look for them in the oslo-incubator repo, because we >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Tempest][Production] Tempest / the gate / real world load

2014-01-13 Thread Maru Newby
I'm afraid I missed this topic the first time around, and I think it bears revisiting. tl;dr: I think we should consider ensuring gate stability in the face of resource-starved services by some combination of more intelligent test design and better handling of resource starvation (for example,

[openstack-dev] [oslo] need input on new config option for logging translations

2014-01-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
There's a review in Oslo to provide a configuration option to turn on the ability to log in a second language by specifying the locale ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62508/). Given the recent discussion of adding more configuration options, I wanted to see what people thought about providing t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][Testr] Brand new checkout of Neutron... getting insane unit test run results

2014-01-13 Thread Collins, Sean
On Wed, Jan 01, 2014 at 07:56:22PM -0800, Clark Boylan wrote: > It looks like the problem is that there is a dependency on pyudev > which only works properly on Linux. The neutron setup_hook does > properly install pyudev on Linux (explains why the tests run in the > gate), but would not work prope

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] Improving oslo-incubator update.py

2014-01-13 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 12:07 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: > We can't just compute the hash of the modules in the project receiving > copies, and then look for them in the oslo-incubator repo, because we > modify the files as we copy them out (to update the import statements > and replace "oslo" with

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Partially Shared Networks

2014-01-13 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 11:47 -0800, Rick Jones wrote: > On 01/13/2014 07:32 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: > > On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 10:23 +, Stephen Gran wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I don't think that's what's being asked for. Just that there be more > >> than the current check for '(isowner of network) or

[openstack-dev] Meeting time congestion

2014-01-13 Thread Lyle, David
With all the warranted meeting time shuffling that has been happening recently, and the addition of so many projects and sub-teams, the meeting calendar for #openstack-meeting and #openstack-meeting-alt [1] is relatively full. So recently, when trying to move the Horizon meeting time, the poll

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] Improving oslo-incubator update.py

2014-01-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > We could always use relative imports in oslo :) Then you could put it > where ever you wanted to without needing to rewrite the import statements. > That may be a good idea, but doesn't really solve the problem at hand. Doug > > > On Mon

[openstack-dev] [infra] hacking checks for infra projects

2014-01-13 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Hi folks, I think that we can enable hacking checks for python infra projects to help themselves write better code. Probably we should enable only specific subset of hacking checks instead of all of them. TL;DR I'd like to discuss the need of hacking usage for python infra projects. Currently I'

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [neutron] PCI pass-through network support

2014-01-13 Thread Ian Wells
If there are N flavor types there are N match expressions so I think it's pretty much equivalent in terms of complexity. It looks like some sort of packing problem to me, trying to fit N objects into M boxes, hence my statement that it's not going to be easy, but that's just a gut feeling - some o

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] javascript templating library choice for status pages

2014-01-13 Thread Michael Krotscheck
On 01/13/2014 05:05 AM, Sean Dague wrote: Honestly, I've not done enough large scale js projects to know whether we'd consider status.js to be big or not. I just know it's definitely getting too big for += all the html together and doing document.writes. Yes indeed. I guess the real question I

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [neutron] PCI pass-through network support

2014-01-13 Thread Jiang, Yunhong
Ian, not sure if I get your question. Why should scheduler get the number of flavor types requested? The scheduler will only translate the PCI flavor to the pci property match requirement like it does now, (either vendor_id, device_id, or item in extra_info), then match the translated pci flavor

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Alternative time for the Heat/orchestration meeting

2014-01-13 Thread Steve Baker
On 19/12/13 14:51, Steve Baker wrote: > The Heat meeting is currently weekly on Wednesdays at 2000 UTC. This > is not very friendly for contributors in some timezones, specifically > Asia. > > In today's Heat meeting we decided to try having every second meeting > at an alternate time. I've set up

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Partially Shared Networks

2014-01-13 Thread Rick Jones
On 01/13/2014 07:32 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 10:23 +, Stephen Gran wrote: Hi, I don't think that's what's being asked for. Just that there be more than the current check for '(isowner of network) or (shared)' If the data point could be 'enabled for network' for a given te

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [neutron] PCI pass-through network support

2014-01-13 Thread Jiang, Yunhong
I'm not network engineer and always lost at 802.1Qbh/802.1BR specs :( So I'd wait for requirement from Neutron. A quick check seems my discussion with Ian meet the requirement already? Thanks --jyh From: Irena Berezovsky [mailto:ire...@mellanox.com] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 12:51 AM To:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron Tempest code sprint - 2nd week of January, Montreal, QC, Canada

2014-01-13 Thread Nachi Ueno
Hi Anita Location: I am about to sign the contract for Salle du Parc at 3625 Parc > avenue, a room in a residence of McGill University. ^^^ Let's me confirmed the room number? 2014/1/7 Anita Kuno : > On 01/08/2014 03:10 AM, Nachi Ueno wrote: >> Hi Anita >> >> Let's me join this session also.

[openstack-dev] [savanna] client release 0.4.1

2014-01-13 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Hi folks, I'm planning to release python-savannaclient Jan 14/15 due to the number of important fixes and improvements including, for example, basic impl of CLI. This changes are needed for updating savanna-dashboard, integration tests, for adding support of scenarios tests in tempest and etc. Th

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [neutron] PCI pass-through network support

2014-01-13 Thread Ian Wells
It's worth noting that this makes the scheduling a computationally hard problem. The answer to that in this scheme is to reduce the number of inputs to trivialise the problem. It's going to be O(f(number of flavor types requested, number of pci_stats pools)) and if you group appropriately there sh

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.config] Centralized config management

2014-01-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Nachi Ueno's message of 2014-01-13 10:35:07 -0800: > Hi Clint > > 2014/1/10 Clint Byrum : > > Excerpts from Nachi Ueno's message of 2014-01-10 13:42:30 -0700: > >> Hi Flavio, Clint > >> > >> I agree with you guys. > >> sorry, may be, I wasn't clear. My opinion is to remove every > >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Common SSH

2014-01-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2014-01-13 09:10:27 -0800: > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Bhuvan Arumugam wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Doug Hellmann < > > doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com> wrote: > >> Where are we doing those sorts of operations? > >> > > > > Current

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPv6] Subnet mode - API extension or change to core API?

2014-01-13 Thread Ian Wells
I would say that since v4 dhcp_mode is core, the DHCPv6/RA setting should similarly be core. To fill others in, we've had discussions on the rest of the patch and Shixiong is working on it now, the current plan is: New subnet attribute ipv6_address_auto_config (not catchy, but because of the way

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.config] Centralized config management

2014-01-13 Thread Nachi Ueno
Hi Clint 2014/1/10 Clint Byrum : > Excerpts from Nachi Ueno's message of 2014-01-10 13:42:30 -0700: >> Hi Flavio, Clint >> >> I agree with you guys. >> sorry, may be, I wasn't clear. My opinion is to remove every >> configuration in the node, >> and every configuration should be done by API from c

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [neutron] PCI pass-through network support

2014-01-13 Thread Jiang, Yunhong
Hi, Robert, scheduler keep count based on pci_stats instead of the pci flavor. As stated by Ian at https://www.mail-archive.com/openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org/msg13455.html already, the flavor will only use the tags used by pci_stats. Thanks --jyh From: Robert Li (baoli) [mailto:ba...@cisco

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Common SSH

2014-01-13 Thread Ben Nemec
On 2014-01-13 11:21, Greg Hill wrote: > Trove doesn't use ssh afaik. It has an agent that runs in the guest that is > communicated with via our normal RPC messaging options. > > Greg My understanding is that Heat is similar. It uses cloud-init to do its guest configuration. I'm pretty sure

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Building a new open source NFV system for Neutron

2014-01-13 Thread Ian Wells
Understood. You should be able to make that work but the issue is allocating your VM to some machine that has spare hardware - which is really what the patches are about, Nova manages allocations and Neutron manages using the hardware when appropriate. From past experience with the patch that was

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] Improving oslo-incubator update.py

2014-01-13 Thread Robert Myers
We could always use relative imports in oslo :) Then you could put it where ever you wanted to without needing to rewrite the import statements. On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > [resurrecting an old thread] > > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: >

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Common SSH

2014-01-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Greg Hill wrote: > Trove doesn't use ssh afaik. It has an agent that runs in the guest that > is communicated with via our normal RPC messaging options. > Good. Doug > > Greg > > On Jan 13, 2014, at 11:10 AM, Doug Hellmann > wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Jan

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Building a new open source NFV system for Neutron

2014-01-13 Thread Luke Gorrie
Howdy Ian! Thanks for the background on the Passthrough work. I reckon the best choice for us now is to use the traditional Neutron APIs instead of Passthrough. I think they cover all of our use cases as it stands now (many thanks to you for your earlier help with working this out :)). The idea i

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPv6] Subnet mode - API extension or change to core API?

2014-01-13 Thread Collins, Sean
Hi, I posted a message to the mailing list[1] when I first began work on the subnet mode keyword, asking if anyone had a suggestion about if it should be an API extension or can be a change to the core API. > I don't know if adding the "dhcp_mode" attribute to Subnets should be > considered an AP

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Common SSH

2014-01-13 Thread Greg Hill
Trove doesn't use ssh afaik. It has an agent that runs in the guest that is communicated with via our normal RPC messaging options. Greg On Jan 13, 2014, at 11:10 AM, Doug Hellmann mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com>> wrote: On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Bhuvan Arumugam mailto:bhu...@

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Common SSH

2014-01-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Bhuvan Arumugam wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Doug Hellmann < > doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Bhuvan Arumugam wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Sergey Skripnick < >>> sskripn...@mira

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] Improving oslo-incubator update.py

2014-01-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
[resurrecting an old thread] On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > On 27/11/13 10:59 +, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > >> On Wed, 2013-11-27 at 11:50 +0100, Flavio Percoco wrote: >> >>> On 26/11/13 22:54 +, Mark McLoughlin wrote: >>> >On Fri, 2013-11-22 at 12:39 -0500, Doug

[openstack-dev] [Devstack] nova compute fails to load the virt driver

2014-01-13 Thread Evgeny Fedoruk
Hi All, I just cloned master devstack and stacked. Nova-compute fails while trying to load libvirt driver Log: Loading compute driver 'libvirt.LibvirtDriver'^[[00m 2014-01-13 08:20:01.228 ^[[01;31mERROR nova.virt.driver [^[[00;36m-^[[01;31m] ^[[01;35m^[[01;31mUnable to load the virtualization

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Some updates to nova-network code

2014-01-13 Thread Russell Bryant
Greetings, There has been much discussion about the future of nova-network. While a freeze is still in effect, I think we need to relax some of the restrictions we have put in place as a part of this freeze. Previously, we have been ignoring nova-network as we made architectural enhancements to

[openstack-dev] pep8 gating fails due to tools/config/check_uptodate.sh

2014-01-13 Thread Sahid Ferdjaoui
Hello all, It looks 100% of the pep8 gate for nova is failing because of a bug reported, we probably need to mark this as Critical. https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1268614 Ivan Melnikov has pushed a patchset waiting for review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66346/ http://logstash

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Community meeting minutes - 01/13/2014

2014-01-13 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Hi, Thanks for joining us today in IRC at #openstack-meeting. Here are the links to minutes and log of the meeting: Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-01-13-16.00.html Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-01-13-16.00.log

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Detect changes in object model

2014-01-13 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
Yes, I agree. Actually, I am trying to infer what the "programming model" for this is as we go along. Personally I would have been happy with only marking the fields when they are set. Then, if a you want to change a list somehow you would get it and then set it again, e.g.: mylist = obje

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Common SSH

2014-01-13 Thread Bhuvan Arumugam
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Bhuvan Arumugam wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Sergey Skripnick < >> sskripn...@mirantis.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> I appreciate that we want to fix the ssh client. I'm not certain that

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] javascript templating library choice for status pages

2014-01-13 Thread Russell Bryant
On 01/12/2014 09:56 PM, Michael Krotscheck wrote: > If all you're looking for is a javascript-based in-browser templating > system, then handlebars is a fine choice. I'm not certain on how complex > status.html/status.js is, however if you expect it to grow to something > more like an application t

[openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Editing Nodes

2014-01-13 Thread Jay Dobies
I'm pulling this particular discussion point out of the Wireframes thread so it doesn't get lost in the replies. = Background = It started with my first bulletpoint: - When a role is edited, if it has existing nodes deployed with the old version, are the automatically/immediately updated? If

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [neutron] PCI pass-through network support

2014-01-13 Thread Robert Li (baoli)
As I have responded in the other email, and If I understand PCI flavor correctly, then the issue that we need to deal with is the overlapping issue. A simplest case of this overlapping is that you can define a flavor F1 as [vendor_id='v', product_id='p'], and a flavor F2 as [vendor_id = 'v'] .

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron] top gate bugs: a plea for help

2014-01-13 Thread Russell Bryant
On 01/11/2014 09:57 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: > 5) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65989/ > > This patch isn't a candidate for merging, but was written to test the > theory that by updating nova-network to use conductor instead of direct > database access, nova-network will be able to do work in

[openstack-dev] [Nova] nova-core sponsors of blueprints

2014-01-13 Thread Russell Bryant
Greetings, One of our blueprint process changes for Nova for the Icehouse cycle was adding a "core sponsor" requirement for blueprints to get priority about Low. The idea is to have 2 members of nova-core sponsor a blueprint, meaning that they are committed to helping review the resulting code. O

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPv6] Reminder - new meeting time & day - Tuesday 1400UTC

2014-01-13 Thread Collins, Sean
In #openstack-meeting -- Sean M. Collins ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] javascript templating library choice for status pages

2014-01-13 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Currently, we already have a simple status page in zuul repo and status page in infra/config, probably, we should think about moving them to the separated repo and merge their functionality and in this case it'll be easy to use any actual js tools. Otherwise it'll be not really straightforward to h

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] javascript templating library choice for status pages

2014-01-13 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Just to make a context for this discussion, here are the two files that where're speaking about: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/zuul/status.html https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/zu

Re: [openstack-dev] [DevStack] Nominate Chmouel Boudjnah for core team

2014-01-13 Thread Dean Troyer
Welcome to the DevStack core team Chmouel! dt -- Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Aggregation discussion

2014-01-13 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 13:39 +0400, Nadya Privalova wrote: > Jay, > > > Thanks for comments! > > The question you raised was discussed several times within Ceilometer > team but as I understand there is no official resolution yet. > > I agree with you that statistics' collection is the main Cei

Re: [openstack-dev] [climate][cafe] Climate and Café teams meeting

2014-01-13 Thread Dina Belova
Guys from Cafe command are from New Zealand - UTC+13 :) On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote: > Are there any guys from PST timezone? > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > >> I can propose anytime at 0600 UTC, I can make efforts for waking up >> earlier

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Deployment Management section - Wireframes

2014-01-13 Thread Jiří Stránský
On 13.1.2014 11:43, Jaromir Coufal wrote: On 2014/10/01 21:17, Jay Dobies wrote: Another question: - A Role (sounds like we're moving away from that so I'll call it Resource Category) can have multiple Node Profiles defined (assuming I'm interpretting the + and the tabs in the Create a Role wir

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Deployment Management section - Wireframes

2014-01-13 Thread Jay Dobies
On 01/13/2014 05:43 AM, Jaromir Coufal wrote: On 2014/10/01 21:17, Jay Dobies wrote: Another question: - A Role (sounds like we're moving away from that so I'll call it Resource Category) can have multiple Node Profiles defined (assuming I'm interpretting the + and the tabs in the Create a Ro

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [rfc] drop XML from v3 API entirely

2014-01-13 Thread Sean Dague
On 01/13/2014 10:13 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 01/13/2014 09:38 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >> I know we've been here before, but I want to raise this again while >> there is still time left in icehouse. >> >> I would like to propose that the Nova v3 API removes the XML payload >> entirely. It adds c

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Partially Shared Networks

2014-01-13 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 10:23 +, Stephen Gran wrote: > Hi, > > I don't think that's what's being asked for. Just that there be more > than the current check for '(isowner of network) or (shared)' > > If the data point could be 'enabled for network' for a given tenant, > that would be more fle

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Detect changes in object model

2014-01-13 Thread Dan Smith
> ObjectListBase has a field called objects that is typed > fields.ListOfObjectsField('NovaObject'). I can see methods for count > and index, and I guess you are talking about adding a method for "are > any of your contents changed" here. I don't see other list operations > (like append, insert, re

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Domain Model Locations

2014-01-13 Thread Jay Dobies
Excellent write up Jay. I don't actually know the answer. I'm not 100% bought into the idea that Tuskar isn't going to store any information about the deployment and will rely entirely on Heat/Ironic as the data store there. Losing this extra physical information may be a a strong reason why w

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] javascript templating library choice for status pages

2014-01-13 Thread Monty Taylor
On 01/13/2014 05:05 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 01/12/2014 09:56 PM, Michael Krotscheck wrote: If all you're looking for is a javascript-based in-browser templating system, then handlebars is a fine choice. I'm not certain on how complex status.html/status.js is, however if you expect it to grow to

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] api schema validation pattern changes

2014-01-13 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 09:40 -0500, Ryan Petrello wrote: > Jay, I’ll +1 to that. As I’ve been tinkering with potential Pecan support > for the Nova API, I’ve run into the same issue w/ the API composition being > seriously complicated (to the point where I’ve realized Pecan isn’t the hard > part

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [rfc] drop XML from v3 API entirely

2014-01-13 Thread Russell Bryant
On 01/13/2014 09:38 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > I know we've been here before, but I want to raise this again while > there is still time left in icehouse. > > I would like to propose that the Nova v3 API removes the XML payload > entirely. It adds complexity to the Nova code, and it requires > duplic

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] javascript templating library choice for status pages

2014-01-13 Thread Greg Hill
If you're just using it for client-side templates, you should be able to treat it like any other js library (jquery, etc) without using npm (node's package manager) for installation. Handlebars, for example, has a single downloadable js file that is available on their website: http://builds.ha

Re: [openstack-dev] [wsme] Undefined attributes in WSME

2014-01-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Ken'ichi Ohmichi wrote: > Hi Doug, > > 2014/1/11 Doug Hellmann : > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Jamie Lennox > > wrote: > >> > >> Is there any way to have WSME pass through arbitrary attributes to the > >> created object? There is nothing that i can see in t

Re: [openstack-dev] [wsme] Undefined attributes in WSME

2014-01-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Jamie Lennox wrote: > On Fri, 2014-01-10 at 10:23 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Jamie Lennox > > wrote: > > Is there any way to have WSME pass through arbitrary > > attributes to the created object

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Detect changes in object model

2014-01-13 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
Hi Dan, I was actually thinking of changes to the list itself rather than the objects in the list. To try and be clear, I actually mean the following: ObjectListBase has a field called objects that is typed fields.ListOfObjectsField('NovaObject'). I can see methods for count and index, and I g

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] javascript templating library choice for status pages

2014-01-13 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Personally, I think that it's a great step now to move this code to the templates. As for the huge frameworks - I prefer something like Angular.JS or Knockout.JS. Currently, the status.js file isn't so bug to rewrite it as a real life web app and so, we could just add templates to make it much mor

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Common SSH

2014-01-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Bhuvan Arumugam wrote: > On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Sergey Skripnick < > sskripn...@mirantis.com> wrote: > >> >> I appreciate that we want to fix the ssh client. I'm not certain that >>> writing our own is the best >answer. >>> >> >> I was supposed to fix

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][Nova][Cold Migration] What about enable cold migration with taraget host

2014-01-13 Thread Jay Lau
Thanks Russell, will add this to V3 api ad leave V2 API as it is. Regards, Jay 2014/1/13 Russell Bryant > On 01/13/2014 03:16 AM, Jay Lau wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > Now cold migration do not support migrate a VM instance with target > > host, what about add this feature to enable cold migr

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