Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Recall for previous iscsi backend BP

2014-11-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 19/11/14 15:21 +0800, henry hly wrote: In the Previous BP [1], support for iscsi backend is introduced into glance. However, it was abandoned because of Cinder backend replacement. The reason is that all storage backend details should be hidden by cinder, not exposed to other projects.

Re: [openstack-dev] Dynamic VM Consolidation Agent as part of Nova

2014-11-19 Thread Mehdi Sheikhalishahi
Where do you suggest as the best place for such a service? On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Mehdi Sheikhalishahi mehdi.alish...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I would like to bring Dynamic VM Consolidation capability into

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-19 Thread Matthias Runge
On 19/11/14 05:25, Richard Jones wrote: I've just had a long discussion with #infra folk about the global-requirements thing, which deviated (quite naturally) into a discussion about packaging (and their thoughts were in line with where Radomir and I are heading). In their view, bower

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Recall for previous iscsi backend BP

2014-11-19 Thread Duncan Thomas
I think that having a stand-alone (client of cinder) rich data streaming service (http put/get with offset support, which can be used for conventional glance plus volume upload/download directly), and rich data-source semantics exposed so that it can be used in an optimal way by/for nova, need

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Recall for previous iscsi backend BP

2014-11-19 Thread henry hly
Hi Flavio, Thanks for your information about Cinder Store, Yet I have a little concern about Cinder backend: Suppose cinder and glance both use Ceph as Store, then if cinder can do instant copy to glance by ceph clone (maybe not now but some time later), what information would be stored in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][stable] Review request

2014-11-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
Please, abstain to send review requests to the mailing list http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-September/015264.html Thanks, Flavio Hi All, On 18/11/14 17:42 +, Kekane, Abhishek wrote: Greetings!!! Can anyone please review this patch [1]. It requires one more

Re: [openstack-dev] Dynamic VM Consolidation Agent as part of Nova

2014-11-19 Thread Stuart Fox
I'd be interested in the opposite, the ability to rebalance the vm's across the fleet to even out load. Agreed it should live outside of Nova tho BR, Stuart On Nov 19, 2014 12:15 AM, Mehdi Sheikhalishahi mehdi.alish...@gmail.com wrote: Where do you suggest as the best place for such a service?

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Poll for change in weekly meeting time.

2014-11-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 18/11/14 18:55 +, Nikhil Komawar wrote: We've had a few responses to this poll however, they do not seem to cover the entire set of developers including many of the cores and developers who are going to be actively working on the features this cycle. Based on the responses received, I'd

[openstack-dev] Tempest basic

2014-11-19 Thread Vineet Menon
Hi, I'm trying to run a single tempest test on openstack but things aren't working as expected. My pwd is tempest root. This is what I'm trying to do, 'nosetests -v tempest.scenario.test_minimum_basic.py', but it throws error. I tried 'nosetests -v tempest/scenario/test_minimum_basic.py' as

Re: [openstack-dev] Tempest basic

2014-11-19 Thread Anna Kamyshnikova
Hi! Try nosetests -sv tempest.scenario.test_minimum_basic Regards, Ann On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Vineet Menon mvineetme...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm trying to run a single tempest test on openstack but things aren't working as expected. My pwd is tempest root. This is what I'm

Re: [openstack-dev] Dynamic VM Consolidation Agent as part of Nova

2014-11-19 Thread Mehdi Sheikhalishahi
If we define a parameter like 'consolidation degree' and consolidate based on this factor, we can achieve both objectives with an implementation. There is an attempt by OpenStack neat project, but it is not integrated into OS. On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Stuart Fox stu...@demonware.net

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][L2 Agent][Debt] Bootstrapping an L2 agent debt repayment task force

2014-11-19 Thread Rossella Sblendido
My name is also on the etherpad, I'd like to work on improving RPC and ovslib. I am willing to take care of the BP, if somebody else is interested we can do it together. cheers, Rossella On 11/19/2014 12:01 AM, Kevin Benton wrote: My name is already on the etherpad in the RPC section, but

[openstack-dev] Who maintains the iCal meeting data?

2014-11-19 Thread Tony Breeds
Hi All, I was going to make an iCal feed for all the openstack meetings. I discovered I was waaay behind the times and one exists and is linked from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings With some of the post Paris changes it's a little out of date. I'm really happy to help maintain it

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Waiting for Haproxy backends

2014-11-19 Thread Vladimir Kuklin
Hi everyone Actually, we changed a lot in 5.1 HA and there are some changes in 6.0 also. Right now we are using assymetric cluster and use location constraints to control resources. We started using xml diffs as the most reliable and supported approach as it does not depend on pcs/crmsh

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][L2 Agent][Debt] Bootstrapping an L2 agent debt repayment task force

2014-11-19 Thread marios
On 19/11/14 11:34, Rossella Sblendido wrote: My name is also on the etherpad, I'd like to work on improving RPC and ovslib. I am willing to take care of the BP, if somebody else is interested we can do it together. sure I can help - (let's sync up on irc to split out the sections and get an

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Do we need to add xml support for new API extensions on v2 API ?

2014-11-19 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:11:40 +0800 Chen CH Ji jiche...@cn.ibm.com wrote: Hi I saw we are removing v2 XML support proposed several days before For new api extensions, do we need to add it now and remove it later or only support JSON ? Thanks I don't

Re: [openstack-dev] Tempest basic

2014-11-19 Thread Vineet Menon
Hi Anna, Sorry not to be more verbose. Your suggestion works fine in a non-cell devstack installation. But as soon as I have 'ENABLED_SERVICE+=n-cell' in local.conf of devstack, things start to fail. Where as I'm able to boot a server on my own with nova boot command, tempest fails miserably

[openstack-dev] [api] API-WG meeting (note time change this week)

2014-11-19 Thread Christopher Yeoh
Hi, We have moved to alternating times each week for the API WG meeting so people from other timezones can attend. Since this is an odd week the meeting will be Thursday UTC 1600. Details here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG The google ical feed hasn't been updated yet, but

[openstack-dev] Installing multinode(control node)

2014-11-19 Thread Chhavi Kant/TVM/TCS
Hi, I want to install multinode in openstack, i need some guidence on what all are the services that i need to enable for installing control node. Attached is the localrc. -- Thanks Regards Chhavi Kant =-=-= Notice: The information contained in this e-mail message

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Cleaning up spec review queue.

2014-11-19 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
On 11/18/2014 06:13 PM, Chris K wrote: Hi all, In an effort to keep the Ironic specs review queue as up to date as possible, I have identified several specs that were proposed in the Juno cycle and have not been updated to reflect the changes to the current Kilo cycle. I would like to set a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Cleaning up spec review queue.

2014-11-19 Thread Imre Farkas
On 11/19/2014 12:07 PM, Dmitry Tantsur wrote: On 11/18/2014 06:13 PM, Chris K wrote: Hi all, In an effort to keep the Ironic specs review queue as up to date as possible, I have identified several specs that were proposed in the Juno cycle and have not been updated to reflect the changes to

Re: [openstack-dev] [barbican] Secret store API validation

2014-11-19 Thread Kelsey, Timothy John
On 18/11/2014 21:07, Nathan Reller rellerrel...@yahoo.com wrote: It seems we need to add some validation to the process Yes, we are planning to add some validation checks in Kilo. I would submit a bug report for this. The big part of the issue is that we need to be clearer about the expected

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][neutron] Proposal to split Neutron into separate repositories

2014-11-19 Thread Paul Michali (pcm)
I like the definition. PCM (Paul Michali) MAIL …..…. p...@cisco.com IRC ……..… pc_m (irc.freenode.com) TW ………... @pmichali GPG Key … 4525ECC253E31A83 Fingerprint .. 307A 96BB 1A4C D2C7 931D 8D2D 4525 ECC2 53E3 1A83 On Nov 18, 2014, at 10:10 PM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com wrote:

[openstack-dev] [tempest] request to review bug 1321617

2014-11-19 Thread Harshada Kakad
Hi All, Could someone please, review the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1321617 Test case related to quota usage (test_show_quota_usage, test_cinder_quota_defaults and test_cinder_quota_show) uses tenant name, ideally it should use tenant id as quota requires UUID of tenant and not

Re: [openstack-dev] Who maintains the iCal meeting data?

2014-11-19 Thread Thierry Carrez
Tony Breeds wrote: I was going to make an iCal feed for all the openstack meetings. I discovered I was waaay behind the times and one exists and is linked from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings With some of the post Paris changes it's a little out of date. I'm really happy

Re: [openstack-dev] Dynamic Policy

2014-11-19 Thread Henry Nash
Hi Adam, So a comprehensive write-up...although I'm not sure we have made the case for why we need a complete rewrite of how policy is managed. We seemed to have lept into a solution without looking at other possible solutions to the problems we are trying to solve. Here's a start at an

[openstack-dev] [glance] Parallels loopback disk format support

2014-11-19 Thread Maxim Nestratov
Greetings, In scope of these changes [1], I would like to add a new image format into glance. For this purpose there was created a blueprint [2] and would really appreciate if someone from glance team could review this proposal. [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111335/ [2]

Re: [openstack-dev] Quota management and enforcement across projects

2014-11-19 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 18/11/2014 20:05, Doug Hellmann a écrit : On Nov 17, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell kevin.mitch...@rackspace.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-11-17 at 18:48 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: I’ve spent a bit of time thinking about the resource ownership issue. The challenge there is we don’t

[openstack-dev] [all][oslo.messaging] Multi-versioning RPC Service API support

2014-11-19 Thread Denis Makogon
Hello Stackers. When i was browsing through bugs of oslo.messaging [1] i found one [2] pretty interesting (it’s old as universe), but it doesn’t seem like a bug, mostly like a blueprint. Digging into code of oslo.messaging i’ve found that, at least, for now, there’s no way launch

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Nov 18, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Sachi King sachi.k...@anchor.com.au wrote: On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 02:06:02 PM Doug Hellmann wrote: During our “Graduation Schedule” summit session we worked through the list of modules remaining the in the incubator. Our notes are in the etherpad [1],

Re: [openstack-dev] Quota management and enforcement across projects

2014-11-19 Thread Endre Karlson
All I can say at the moment is that Usage and Quota management is a crappy thing to do in OpenStack. Every service has it's own way of doing it both in clients and api's. +n+ for making a effort in standardizing this thing in a way that could be alike across projects.. 2014-11-19 14:33 GMT+01:00

Re: [openstack-dev] Quota management and enforcement across projects

2014-11-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Nov 19, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Sylvain Bauza sba...@redhat.com wrote: Le 18/11/2014 20:05, Doug Hellmann a écrit : On Nov 17, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell kevin.mitch...@rackspace.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-11-17 at 18:48 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: I’ve spent a bit of time thinking

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][oslo.messaging] Multi-versioning RPC Service API support

2014-11-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Nov 19, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Denis Makogon dmako...@mirantis.com wrote: Hello Stackers. When i was browsing through bugs of oslo.messaging [1] i found one [2] pretty interesting (it’s old as universe), but it doesn’t seem like a bug, mostly like a blueprint. Digging

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][oslo.messaging] Multi-versioning RPC Service API support

2014-11-19 Thread Russell Bryant
On 11/19/2014 09:18 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Nov 19, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Denis Makogon dmako...@mirantis.com mailto:dmako...@mirantis.com wrote: Hello Stackers. When i was browsing through bugs of oslo.messaging [1] i found one [2] pretty interesting (it’s old as

Re: [openstack-dev] Quota management and enforcement across projects

2014-11-19 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 19/11/2014 15:06, Doug Hellmann a écrit : On Nov 19, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Sylvain Bauza sba...@redhat.com wrote: Le 18/11/2014 20:05, Doug Hellmann a écrit : On Nov 17, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell kevin.mitch...@rackspace.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-11-17 at 18:48 -0500, Doug Hellmann

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Power management in Cobbler

2014-11-19 Thread Vladimir Kozhukalov
I am absolutely -1 for using Cobbler for that. Lastly, Ironic guys became much more open for adopting new features (at least if they are implemented in terms of Ironic drivers). Currently, it looks like we are probably able to deliver zero step Fuel Ironic driver by 6.1. Ironic already has

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Parallels loopback disk format support

2014-11-19 Thread Nikhil Komawar
Hi Maxim, Thanks for showing interest in this aspect. Like nova-specs, Glance also needs a spec to be create for discussion related to the blueprint. Please try to create one here [1]. Additionally you may join us at the meeting [2] if you feel stuck or need clarifications. [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][stable] Review request

2014-11-19 Thread Nikhil Komawar
This patch is a bit different as it is not a straightforward cherry-pick from the commit in master (that fixes the bug). So, it seemed like a good idea to start the discussion. Nonetheless, it's my bad turning into a miscommunication where the email just became a review request; while the

[openstack-dev] [NFV][Telco] Telco Working Group meeting minutes (2014-11-19)

2014-11-19 Thread Steve Gordon
Hi all, Please find minutes nd logs for the Telco Working Group meeting held at 1400 UTC on Wednesday the 19th of November at the following locations: * Meeting ended Wed Nov 19 15:02:01 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) * Minutes:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Power management in Cobbler

2014-11-19 Thread Tomasz Napierala
On 19 Nov 2014, at 16:10, Vladimir Kozhukalov vkozhuka...@mirantis.com wrote: I am absolutely -1 for using Cobbler for that. Lastly, Ironic guys became much more open for adopting new features (at least if they are implemented in terms of Ironic drivers). Currently, it looks like we are

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] v3 integrated tests taking a lot longer?

2014-11-19 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/18/2014 06:48 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: I just started noticing today that the v3 integrated api samples tests seem to be taking a lot longer than the other non-v3 integrated api samples tests. On my 4 VCPU, 4 GB RAM VM some of those tests are taking anywhere from 15-50+ seconds, while the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Error message when Neutron network is running out of IP addresses

2014-11-19 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 11/18/2014 5:27 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: It looks like this has not been reported so a bug would be great. It looks like it might be as easy as adding the NoMoreFixedIps exception to the list where FixedIpLimitExceeded is caught in nova/network/manager.py Vish On Nov 18, 2014, at

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Error message when Neutron network is running out of IP addresses

2014-11-19 Thread Edgar Magana
Ok, I will open a bug and commit a patch! :-) Edgar From: Vishvananda Ishaya vishvana...@gmail.commailto:vishvana...@gmail.com Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Tuesday,

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] We lost some commits during upstream puppet manifests merge

2014-11-19 Thread Vladimir Kuklin
Fuelers I am writing that we had a really sad incident - we noticed that after we merged upstream keystone module we lost modifications (Change-Id: Idfe4b54caa0d96a93e93bfff12d8b6216f83e2f1 https://review.openstack.org/#/q/Idfe4b54caa0d96a93e93bfff12d8b6216f83e2f1,n,z) for memcached dogpile

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Power management in Cobbler

2014-11-19 Thread Matthew Mosesohn
Tomasz, Vladimir, others, The way I see it is we need a way to discover the corresponding IPMI address for a given node for out-of-band power management. The ultimate ipmitool command is going to be exactly the same whether it comes from Cobbler or Ironic, and all we need to do is feed

Re: [openstack-dev] Quota management and enforcement across projects

2014-11-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Nov 19, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Sylvain Bauza sba...@redhat.com wrote: Le 19/11/2014 15:06, Doug Hellmann a écrit : On Nov 19, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Sylvain Bauza sba...@redhat.com wrote: Le 18/11/2014 20:05, Doug Hellmann a écrit : On Nov 17, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell

Re: [openstack-dev] WSME 0.6.2 released

2014-11-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
Version 0.6.2 was incorrectly configured to build universal wheels, leading to installation errors under Python 3 because of a dependency on ipaddr that only works on Python 2 (there is a version of the module already in the standard library for Python 3). To fix this, fungi removed the bad

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Error message when Neutron network is running out of IP addresses

2014-11-19 Thread Edgar Magana
Nova People, In Havana the behavior of this issue was different, basically the VM was successfully created and after trying multiple times to get an IP the state was changed to ERROR. This behavior is different in Juno (currently testing Icehouse) but I am not able to find the bug fix. As an

[openstack-dev] [rally]Rally created tenant and users

2014-11-19 Thread Ajay Kalambur (akalambu)
Hi Is there a way to specify that the Rally created tenants and users and created with admin privileges Currently its created using member role and hence some admin operations are not allowed I want to specify that the account created has admin access Ajay

[openstack-dev] [oslo.db][nova] NovaObject.save() needs its own DB transaction

2014-11-19 Thread Matthew Booth
We currently have a pattern in Nova where all database code lives in db/sqla/api.py[1]. Database transactions are only ever created or used in this module. This was an explicit design decision: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/db-session-cleanup . However, it presents a problem when we

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-19 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Perhaps they are there to support older browsers? Thanks, Kevin From: Matthias Runge [mru...@redhat.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 12:27 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Power management in Cobbler

2014-11-19 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Would net booting a minimal discovery image work? You usually can dump ipmi network information from the host. Thanks, Kevin From: Matthew Mosesohn [mmoses...@mirantis.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 7:46 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][neutron] Proposal to split Neutron into separate repositories

2014-11-19 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Armando M. arma...@gmail.com wrote: Mark, Kyle, What is the strategy for tracking the progress and all the details about this initiative? Blueprint spec, wiki page, or something else? We're in the process of writing a spec for this now, but we first wanted

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][neutron] Proposal to split Neutron into separate repositories

2014-11-19 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Doug Wiegley do...@a10networks.com wrote: Hi, so the specs repository would continue to be shared during the Kilo cycle. One of the reasons to split is that these two teams have different priorities and velocities. Wouldn’t that be easier to track/manage as

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][neutron] Proposal to split Neutron into separate repositories

2014-11-19 Thread Ivar Lazzaro
While I agree that a unified endpoint could be a good solution for now, I think that the easiest way of doing this would be by implementing it as an external Neutron service. Using python entry_points, the advanced service extensions can be loaded in Neutron just like we do today (using

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Power management in Cobbler

2014-11-19 Thread Tomasz Napierala
On 19 Nov 2014, at 17:56, Fox, Kevin M kevin@pnnl.gov wrote: Would net booting a minimal discovery image work? You usually can dump ipmi network information from the host. To boot from minimal iso (which is waht we do now) you still need to tell the host to do it. This is where IPMI

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db][nova] NovaObject.save() needs its own DB transaction

2014-11-19 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Matthew, LOL ORM on top of another ORM https://img.neoseeker.com/screenshots/TW92aWVzL0RyYW1h/inception_image33.png Best regards, Boris Pavlovic On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Matthew Booth mbo...@redhat.com wrote: We currently have a pattern in Nova where all database code lives

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DB: transaction isolation and related questions

2014-11-19 Thread Mike Bayer
On Nov 18, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Eugene Nikanorov enikano...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi neutron folks, There is an ongoing effort to refactor some neutron DB logic to be compatible with galera/mysql which doesn't support locking (with_lockmode('update')). Some code paths that used locking in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Power management in Cobbler

2014-11-19 Thread Fox, Kevin M
I meant, either go into the bios and set the node to netboot, or hit f12(or whatever) and netboot. the netbooted discovery image should be able to gather all the rest of the bits? Minimal ISO could also be just gpxe or something like that and would do the same as above. Then you don't have to

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db][nova] NovaObject.save() needs its own DB transaction

2014-11-19 Thread Mike Bayer
On Nov 19, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Matthew Booth mbo...@redhat.com wrote: We currently have a pattern in Nova where all database code lives in db/sqla/api.py[1]. Database transactions are only ever created or used in this module. This was an explicit design decision:

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db][nova] NovaObject.save() needs its own DB transaction

2014-11-19 Thread Mike Bayer
On Nov 19, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Boris Pavlovic bpavlo...@mirantis.com wrote: Matthew, LOL ORM on top of another ORM https://img.neoseeker.com/screenshots/TW92aWVzL0RyYW1h/inception_image33.png https://img.neoseeker.com/screenshots/TW92aWVzL0RyYW1h/inception_image33.png I know

[openstack-dev] [QA] Meeting Thursday November 20th at 17:00 UTC

2014-11-19 Thread Matthew Treinish
Hi everyone, Just a quick reminder that the weekly OpenStack QA team IRC meeting will be tomorrow Thursday, November 20th at 17:00 UTC in the #openstack-meeting channel. The agenda for tomorrow's meeting can be found here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting Anyone is welcome

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db][nova] NovaObject.save() needs its own DB transaction

2014-11-19 Thread Dan Smith
However, it presents a problem when we consider NovaObjects, and dependencies between them. I disagree with this assertion, because: For example, take Instance.save(). An Instance has relationships with several other object types, one of which is InstanceInfoCache. Consider the following

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DB: transaction isolation and related questions

2014-11-19 Thread Ryan Moats
I was waiting for this because I think I may have a slightly different (and outside of the box) view on how to approach a solution to this. Conceptually (at least in my mind) there isn't a whole lot of difference between how the example below (i.e. updates from two concurrent threads) is handled

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Parallels loopback disk format support

2014-11-19 Thread Maxim Nestratov
Hi Nikhil, Thank you for your response and advice. I'm currently creating the spec and will publish a review for it shortly. Best, Maxim 19.11.2014 18:15, Nikhil Komawar пишет: Hi Maxim, Thanks for showing interest in this aspect. Like nova-specs, Glance also needs a spec to be create for

Re: [openstack-dev] [policy] [congress] Protocol for Congress -- Enactor

2014-11-19 Thread Gregory Lebovitz
anyone read this? comments? On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Gregory Lebovitz gregory.i...@gmail.com wrote: Summary from IRC chat 10/14/2014 on weekly meeting [1] [2] Topic: Declarative Language for Congress — Enactor/Enforcer Question: Shall we specify a declarative language for

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] API-WG meeting (note time change this week)

2014-11-19 Thread Everett Toews
On Nov 19, 2014, at 4:56 AM, Christopher Yeoh cbky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We have moved to alternating times each week for the API WG meeting so people from other timezones can attend. Since this is an odd week the meeting will be Thursday UTC 1600. Details here:

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Cross-Project Liaison for the API Working Group

2014-11-19 Thread Everett Toews
On Nov 16, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Christopher Yeoh cbky...@gmail.com wrote: My 2c is we should say The liason should be the PTL or whomever they delegate to be their representative and not mention anything about the person needing to be a core developer. It removes any ambiguity about who

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Summit summary

2014-11-19 Thread Everett Toews
Does anybody know what happened to the Etherpad? It’s completely blank now!!! If you check the Timeslider, it appears that it only ever existed on Nov. 15. Bizarre. Everett On Nov 14, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Everett Toews everett.to...@rackspace.com wrote: Hi All, Here’s a summary of what

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Summit summary

2014-11-19 Thread melanie witt
On Nov 19, 2014, at 11:38, Everett Toews everett.to...@rackspace.com wrote: Does anybody know what happened to the Etherpad? It’s completely blank now!!! If you check the Timeslider, it appears that it only ever existed on Nov. 15. Bizarre. I see it as blank now too, however I can see all

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] API-WG meeting (note time change this week)

2014-11-19 Thread Anne Gentle
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Everett Toews everett.to...@rackspace.com wrote: On Nov 19, 2014, at 4:56 AM, Christopher Yeoh cbky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We have moved to alternating times each week for the API WG meeting so people from other timezones can attend. Since this is an

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Waiting for Haproxy backends

2014-11-19 Thread Sergii Golovatiuk
Hi crew, Please see my inline comments. Hi Everyone, I was reading the blueprints mentioned here and thought I'd take the opportunity to introduce myself and ask a few questions. For those that don't recognise my name, Pacemaker is my baby - so I take a keen interest helping people have a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DB: transaction isolation and related questions

2014-11-19 Thread Jay Pipes
Hi Eugene, please see comments inline. But, bottom line, is that setting the transaction isolation level to READ_COMMITTED should be avoided. On 11/18/2014 01:38 PM, Eugene Nikanorov wrote: Hi neutron folks, There is an ongoing effort to refactor some neutron DB logic to be compatible with

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-dev][Nova] Migration stuck - resize/migrating

2014-11-19 Thread Solly Ross
Indeed. Ensure you have SSH access between compute nodes (I'm working on some code to remove this requirement, but it may be a while before it gets merged). Also, if you can, could you post logs somewhere with the 'debug' config option enabled? I might be able to spot something quickly, since

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DB: transaction isolation and related questions

2014-11-19 Thread Mike Bayer
On Nov 19, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Ryan Moats rmo...@us.ibm.com wrote: I was waiting for this because I think I may have a slightly different (and outside of the box) view on how to approach a solution to this. Conceptually (at least in my mind) there isn't a whole lot of difference between

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DB: transaction isolation and related questions

2014-11-19 Thread Mike Bayer
On Nov 19, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: In other words, the retry logic like the following will not work: def allocate_obj(): with session.begin(subtrans=True): for i in xrange(n_retries): obj =

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DB: transaction isolation and related questions

2014-11-19 Thread Ian Wells
On 19 November 2014 11:58, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Some code paths that used locking in the past were rewritten to retry the operation if they detect that an object was modified concurrently. The problem here is that all DB operations (CRUD) are performed in the scope of some

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DB: transaction isolation and related questions

2014-11-19 Thread Ryan Moats
Ian Wells ijw.ubu...@cack.org.uk wrote on 11/19/2014 02:33:40 PM: [snip] When you have a plugin that's decided to be synchronous, then there are cases where the DB lock is held for a technically indefinite period of time.  This is basically broken. A big +1 to this statement Ryan

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DB: transaction isolation and related questions

2014-11-19 Thread Ryan Moats
Mike Bayer mba...@redhat.com wrote on 11/19/2014 02:10:18 PM: From: Mike Bayer mba...@redhat.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 11/19/2014 02:11 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DB: transaction

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] v3 integrated tests taking a lot longer?

2014-11-19 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 11/19/2014 9:40 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 11/18/2014 06:48 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: I just started noticing today that the v3 integrated api samples tests seem to be taking a lot longer than the other non-v3 integrated api samples tests. On my 4 VCPU, 4 GB RAM VM some of those tests are

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Recall for previous iscsi backend BP

2014-11-19 Thread Alex Meade
Hey Henry/Folks, I think it could make sense for Glance to store the volume UUID, the idea is that no matter where an image is stored it should be *owned* by Glance and not deleted out from under it. But that is more of a single tenant vs multi tenant cinder store. It makes sense for Cinder to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Waiting for Haproxy backends

2014-11-19 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/18/2014 07:25 PM, Andrew Woodward wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Andrew Beekhof abeek...@redhat.com wrote: * Openstack services are not managed by Pacemaker Oh? fuel doesn't (currently) set up API services in pacemaker Nor should it, IMO. Other than the Neutron dhcp-agent,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DB: transaction isolation and related questions

2014-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mike Bayer's message of 2014-11-19 10:05:35 -0800: On Nov 18, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Eugene Nikanorov enikano...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi neutron folks, There is an ongoing effort to refactor some neutron DB logic to be compatible with galera/mysql which doesn't support

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] v3 integrated tests taking a lot longer?

2014-11-19 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/19/2014 04:00 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 11/19/2014 9:40 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 11/18/2014 06:48 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: I just started noticing today that the v3 integrated api samples tests seem to be taking a lot longer than the other non-v3 integrated api samples tests. On my 4

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DB: transaction isolation and related questions

2014-11-19 Thread Mike Bayer
On Nov 19, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Ryan Moats rmo...@us.ibm.com wrote: BTW, I view your examples from oslo as helping make my argument for me (and I don't think that was your intent :) ) I disagree with that as IMHO the differences in producing MM in the app layer against arbitrary backends

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][L3] Reminder: Meeting Thursday at 1500 UTC

2014-11-19 Thread Carl Baldwin
The Neutron L3 team will meet [1] tomorrow at the regular time. I'd like to discuss the progress of the functional tests for the L3 agent to see how we can get that on track. I don't think we need to wait for the BP to merge before get something going. We will likely not have a meeting next

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Waiting for Haproxy backends

2014-11-19 Thread Andrew Beekhof
On 20 Nov 2014, at 6:55 am, Sergii Golovatiuk sgolovat...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi crew, Please see my inline comments. Hi Everyone, I was reading the blueprints mentioned here and thought I'd take the opportunity to introduce myself and ask a few questions. For those that don't

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DB: transaction isolation and related questions

2014-11-19 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Wow, lots of feedback in a matter of hours. First of all, reading postgres docs I see that READ COMMITTED is the same as for mysql, so it should address the issue we're discussing: *Read Committed* is the default isolation level in PostgreSQL. When a transaction uses this isolation level, a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] v3 integrated tests taking a lot longer?

2014-11-19 Thread Andrew Laski
On 11/19/2014 04:16 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 11/19/2014 04:00 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 11/19/2014 9:40 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 11/18/2014 06:48 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: I just started noticing today that the v3 integrated api samples tests seem to be taking a lot longer than the other

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Parallels loopback disk format support

2014-11-19 Thread Fei Long Wang
IIUC, the blueprint just want to add a new image format, and no code change in Glance, is it? If that's the case, I'm wondering if we really need a blueprint/spec. Because the image format could be configured in glance-api.conf. Please correct me if I missed anything. Cheers. On 20/11/14 02:27,

Re: [openstack-dev] Who maintains the iCal meeting data?

2014-11-19 Thread Tony Breeds
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 01:24:03PM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: The iCal is currently maintained by Anne (annegentle) and myself. In parallel, a small group is building a gerrit-powered agenda so that we can describe meetings in YAML and check for conflicts automatically, and build the ics

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DB: transaction isolation and related questions

2014-11-19 Thread Mike Bayer
On Nov 19, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: One simply cannot rely on multi-statement transactions to always succeed. agree, but the thing you want is that the transaction either succeeds or explicitly fails, the latter hopefully in such a way that a retry can be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DB: transaction isolation and related questions

2014-11-19 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
But the isolation mode change won’t really help here as pointed out by Jay; discrete transactions have to be used instead. I still think it will, per postgres documentation (which might look confusing, but still...) It actually helps for mysql, that was confirmed. For postgres it appears to be

[openstack-dev] [Cinder] mid-cycle meet-up planning ...

2014-11-19 Thread Jay S. Bryant
All, For those of you that weren't able to make the Kilo meet-up in Paris I wanted to send out a note regarding Cinder's Kilo mid-cycle meet-up. IBM has offered to host it in, warm, sunny, Austin, Texas. The planned dates are January 27, 28 and 29, 2015. I have put together an etherpad

[openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] Abandon Old LBaaS V2 Review

2014-11-19 Thread Brandon Logan
Evgeny, Since change sets got moved to the feature branch, this review has remained on master. It needs to be abandoned: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109849/ Thanks, Brandon On Mon, 2014-11-17 at 12:31 -0800, Stephen Balukoff wrote: Awesome! On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Susanne

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-19 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/19/2014 04:27 PM, Matthias Runge wrote: On 18/11/14 14:48, Thomas Goirand wrote: And then, does selenium continues to work for testing Horizon? If so, then the solution could be to send the .dll and .xpi files in non-free, and remove them from Selenium in main. Yes, it still works;

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] v3 integrated tests taking a lot longer?

2014-11-19 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 11/19/2014 3:34 PM, Andrew Laski wrote: On 11/19/2014 04:16 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 11/19/2014 04:00 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 11/19/2014 9:40 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 11/18/2014 06:48 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: I just started noticing today that the v3 integrated api samples tests

Re: [openstack-dev] Quota management and enforcement across projects

2014-11-19 Thread Blair Bethwaite
On 20 November 2014 05:25, openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org wrote: -- Message: 24 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:57:17 -0500 From: Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] APIImpact flag for specs

2014-11-19 Thread Everett Toews
On Nov 13, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Everett Toews everett.to...@rackspace.commailto:everett.to...@rackspace.com wrote: On Nov 12, 2014, at 10:45 PM, Angus Salkeld asalk...@mirantis.commailto:asalk...@mirantis.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Everett Toews

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] API-WG meeting (note time change this week)

2014-11-19 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:34:44 + Everett Toews everett.to...@rackspace.com wrote: 2. Do you know if there is a way to subscribe to only the API WG meeting from that calendar? I haven't been able to find a way to do that. Fortunately for me most of the openstack meetings end up being between

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