Re: [openstack-dev] [all] governance proposal worth a visit: Write down OpenStack principles

2016-09-09 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 08/09/16 23:41 -0700, Joshua Harlow wrote: Chris Dent wrote: There's a governance proposal in progress at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357260/ that I think is worth a visit by anyone interested in the definition and evolution of OpenStack's identity and the processes and guidelines used

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] governance proposal worth a visit: Write down OpenStack principles

2016-09-09 Thread Paul Dardeau
Re: "One OpenStack" product Is vim, less, awk, sed, and emacs one product? Are the bolt and nut of same size (and produced by same manufacturer) sitting in a hardware store a single product? A vote or edict does not automatically make things one product - it only conveys a desire. I would argue

Re: [openstack-dev] [QA] [Ironic] [Tempest] Problem with paramiko on grenade

2016-09-09 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
On 09/09/2016 02:08 PM, Jim Rollenhagen wrote: On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 7:32 AM, Dmitry Tantsur wrote: On 09/08/2016 11:24 AM, Anton Arefiev wrote: Hi folks! We've ran into the problem with paramiko, similar to[1] in Inspector. Our grenade job fails on

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Timeframe for future elections & "Release stewards"

2016-09-09 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
Thierry Carrez wrote: Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: [...] I slightly disagree with enforcing another formal role to all teams. I feel that we have enough of them (release liaison for one) to cover for release cross-project work, and projects are free to set their teams with

Re: [openstack-dev] [QA] [Ironic] [Tempest] Problem with paramiko on grenade

2016-09-09 Thread Jim Rollenhagen
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 7:32 AM, Dmitry Tantsur wrote: > On 09/08/2016 11:24 AM, Anton Arefiev wrote: >> >> Hi folks! >> >> We've ran into the problem with paramiko, similar to[1] in Inspector. >> Our grenade job fails on TestNetworkBasicOps.test_network_basic_ops with >> [2]

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Timeframe for future elections & "Release stewards"

2016-09-09 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 08/09/16 16:48 -0600, Doug Wiegley wrote: On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 9/8/2016 6:42 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 09/08/2016 05:00 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Sean Dague wrote: So... the difference between your proposal and mine is: you

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] moving driver to open source

2016-09-09 Thread Ben Swartzlander
On 09/08/2016 04:41 PM, Duncan Thomas wrote: On 8 September 2016 at 20:17, John Griffith > wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Jeremy Stanley > wrote: they

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Timeframe for future elections & "Release stewards"

2016-09-09 Thread John Griffith
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 2:42 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > John Griffith wrote: > > ​I think Sean Dague made some really good points and I'd tend to lean > > that way. Honestly charters, bylaws, governance etc shift or are > > rewritten fairly often. Why not just change

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Timeframe for future elections & "Release stewards"

2016-09-09 Thread Hongbin Lu
> -Original Message- > From: Flavio Percoco [mailto:fla...@redhat.com] > Sent: September-09-16 8:19 AM > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Timeframe for future elections & > "Release stewards" > > On 08/09/16 18:41

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Timeframe for future elections & "Release stewards"

2016-09-09 Thread Rob Cresswell
This makes sense to me. I think I'm having a slow day and wasn't connecting the dots. Having the next PTL come in and immediately hear feedback and begin planning how to address it, rather than coming in shortly before the planning event without a feedback loop, sounds like a good move. +1

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Timeframe for future elections & "Release stewards"

2016-09-09 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 08/09/16 18:41 +, Hongbin Lu wrote: -Original Message- From: Thierry Carrez [mailto:thie...@openstack.org] Sent: September-08-16 5:00 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Timeframe for future elections & "Release stewards" Sean Dague

[openstack-dev] [neutron][stadium][release] Doing new stadium releases through openstack/releases only

2016-09-09 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
Hi all, Cathy noticed lately that networking-sfc 2.0.0 release did not trigger an announcement email. This was because the tag pushed did not contain some metadata required by the post-merge job:

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] governance proposal worth a visit: Write down OpenStack principles

2016-09-09 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/09/16 10:22 +, John Davidge wrote: Thierry Carrez wrote: [...] In the last years there were a lot of "questions" asked by random contributors, especially around the "One OpenStack" principle (which seems to fuel most of the reaction here). Remarks like "we should really decide once

[openstack-dev] [new][oslo] oslo.db 4.13.3 release (newton)

2016-09-09 Thread no-reply
We are ecstatic to announce the release of: oslo.db 4.13.3: Oslo Database library This release is part of the newton stable release series. With source available at: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo.db With package available at: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/oslo.db

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] today was a bad day for CI

2016-09-09 Thread James Page
On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 at 01:17 Emilien Macchi wrote: [...] > 3) Disable Ironic testing on Ubuntu. Packages are broken in recent > Newton upgrade. They are working on it. > Ironic packaging issue fixed and released to newton-updates; that will teach me to spend a morning tidying

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Timeframe for future elections & "Release stewards"

2016-09-09 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
Thierry Carrez wrote: Rob Cresswell wrote: I've been toying with send this email for a while, but here goes: this all feels like overcomplication and changing of a system that doesn't really need to change. Except the proposal here is actually to not change anything,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Timeframe for future elections & "Release stewards"

2016-09-09 Thread Thierry Carrez
Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: > [...] > I slightly disagree with enforcing another formal role to all teams. I > feel that we have enough of them (release liaison for one) to cover for > release cross-project work, and projects are free to set their teams > with more roles if needed. You should probably

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Timeframe for future elections & "Release stewards"

2016-09-09 Thread Thierry Carrez
Thierry Carrez wrote: > [...] > One interesting side-effect is that since the timing of the election > period (for PTL and TC positions) is defined in the TC charter[3] > relative to the *Summit*, it means that (unless we change this) we'll > now run elections to renew PTL and TC positions in the

[openstack-dev] [puppet] Puppet OpenStack PTL non-candidacy

2016-09-09 Thread Emilien Macchi
Hi, I wrote a little blog post about the last cycle in PuppetOpenStack: http://my1.fr/blog/puppet-openstack-achievements-during-newton-cycle/ I can't describe how much I liked to be PTL during the last 18 months and I wouldn't imagine we would be where we are today when I started to contribute

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Timeframe for future elections & "Release stewards"

2016-09-09 Thread Nikhil Komawar
On 9/9/16 11:32 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Thierry Carrez wrote: >> [...] >> One interesting side-effect is that since the timing of the election >> period (for PTL and TC positions) is defined in the TC charter[3] >> relative to the *Summit*, it means that (unless we change this) we'll >> now

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] [devstack] [ocata] Consistent Endpoint Discovery

2016-09-09 Thread Michael Krotscheck
Hey there, Goutham, thanks for replying! I don't dispute that the services are properly returning a list of supported versions, if you request the root resource. So far, that works wonderfully. I'm speaking of the resource endpoint that an API client is given when it queries the keystone service

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Puppet OpenStack PTL non-candidacy

2016-09-09 Thread Emilien Macchi
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:15 PM, gordon chung wrote: > mec, great work trying to make the stuff we build work and telling us to > make it less broken. > > so we play ping pong now? not really: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367386/ > On 09/09/16 12:05 PM, Emilien Macchi wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] governance proposal worth a visit: Write down OpenStack principles

2016-09-09 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/09/2016 06:22 AM, John Davidge wrote: Thierry Carrez wrote: [...] In the last years there were a lot of "questions" asked by random contributors, especially around the "One OpenStack" principle (which seems to fuel most of the reaction here). Remarks like "we should really decide once

[openstack-dev] [tripleo] tripleo-test-cloud-rh1 and bastion host

2016-09-09 Thread Paul Belanger
Greetings, I would like to start the discussions around the removal of the bastion host that sits in front of tripleo-test-cloud-rh1. It is my understanding, all traffic from tripleo-test-cloud-rh1 flows through this linux box. Obviously this is problematic for a public cloud. I currently do

Re: [openstack-dev] venting -- OpenStack wiki reCAPTCHA

2016-09-09 Thread Tom Fifield
On 廿十六年九月九日 朝 10:41, Tom Fifield wrote: On 廿十六年九月八日 暮 08:36, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2016-09-09 01:10:15 + (+), Bhandaru, Malini K wrote: Is it just me who likes to hit the save button often? It gets tedious proving often that you are not a robot. Wiki reCAPTCHA likes proof even

Re: [openstack-dev] venting -- OpenStack wiki reCAPTCHA

2016-09-09 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2016-09-09 11:06:21 -0500 (-0500), Tom Fifield wrote: > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/368114/ [...] Thanks! I had already written almost the exact same change, applied it in production and tested it with a non-admin account to make sure that when the account didn't have verified user

Re: [openstack-dev] venting -- OpenStack wiki reCAPTCHA

2016-09-09 Thread Hayes, Graham
On 09/09/2016 08:44, Tom Fifield wrote: > > > On 廿十六年九月八日 暮 08:36, Jeremy Stanley wrote: >> On 2016-09-09 01:10:15 + (+), Bhandaru, Malini K wrote: >>> Is it just me who likes to hit the save button often? >>> It gets tedious proving often that you are not a robot. Wiki >>> reCAPTCHA likes

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Puppet OpenStack PTL non-candidacy

2016-09-09 Thread David Moreau Simard
Thanks for your hard and passionate work. Keep on rocking. David Moreau Simard Senior Software Engineer | Openstack RDO dmsimard = [irc, github, twitter] On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Emilien Macchi wrote: > Hi, > > I wrote a little blog post about the last cycle in

Re: [openstack-dev] venting -- OpenStack wiki reCAPTCHA

2016-09-09 Thread Tom Fifield
On 廿十六年九月八日 暮 08:36, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2016-09-09 01:10:15 + (+), Bhandaru, Malini K wrote: Is it just me who likes to hit the save button often? It gets tedious proving often that you are not a robot. Wiki reCAPTCHA likes proof even if saves are spaced less than a minute

Re: [openstack-dev] venting -- OpenStack wiki reCAPTCHA

2016-09-09 Thread Morgan Fainberg
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Tom Fifield wrote: > > > On 廿十六年九月九日 朝 10:41, Tom Fifield wrote: > >> >> >> On 廿十六年九月八日 暮 08:36, Jeremy Stanley wrote: >> >>> On 2016-09-09 01:10:15 + (+), Bhandaru, Malini K wrote: >>> Is it just me who likes to hit the save

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] moving driver to open source

2016-09-09 Thread John Griffith
On Sep 9, 2016 08:26, "Ben Swartzlander" wrote: > > On 09/08/2016 04:41 PM, Duncan Thomas wrote: >> >> On 8 September 2016 at 20:17, John Griffith > > wrote: >> >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Jeremy

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Puppet OpenStack PTL non-candidacy

2016-09-09 Thread Clayton O'Neill
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Emilien Macchi wrote: > However, I think it's time to pass the PTL torch for Ocata cycle. > Don't worry, I'll still be around and bother you when CI is broken ;-) > > Again, a big thank you for those who work with me, I think it’s impossible

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Puppet OpenStack PTL non-candidacy

2016-09-09 Thread Iury Gregory
Thank you very much for your work in the last 3 cycles! You rock :D 2016-09-09 13:29 GMT-03:00 Emilien Macchi : > On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:15 PM, gordon chung wrote: > > mec, great work trying to make the stuff we build work and telling us to > > make it less

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Puppet OpenStack PTL non-candidacy

2016-09-09 Thread Tim Bell
Emilien, Thanks for all your hard work in this area. You may not know how many happy consumers of the OpenStack Puppet project there are because we’re quiet until you decide to step down. Tim On 09/09/16 18:05, "Emilien Macchi" wrote: Hi, I wrote a little

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Puppet OpenStack PTL non-candidacy

2016-09-09 Thread Matt Fischer
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Emilien Macchi wrote: > Hi, > > I wrote a little blog post about the last cycle in PuppetOpenStack: > http://my1.fr/blog/puppet-openstack-achievements-during-newton-cycle/ > > I can't describe how much I liked to be PTL during the last 18

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] moving driver to open source

2016-09-09 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 9 September 2016 at 17:22, Ben Swartzlander wrote: On 09/08/2016 04:41 PM, Duncan Thomas wrote: > > Despite the fact I've appeared to be slightly disagreeing with John in >> the IRC discussion on this subject, you've summarised my concern very >> well. I'm not

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements][FFE] pymod2pkg 0.5.4

2016-09-09 Thread Matthew Thode
On 09/09/2016 05:26 AM, Dirk Müller wrote: > Hi, > > OpenStack RPM Packaging would like to update to pymod2pkg 0.5.4: > > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367388/ > > this package is only used by packaging (renderspec and rpm-packaging > git repos) that are on a release-independent schedule

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Puppet OpenStack PTL non-candidacy

2016-09-09 Thread Denis Egorenko
Hey Emilien, It was a big pleasure to work with you! Thank you for all your help! :) And good luck on your next project and activities! 2016-09-09 19:05 GMT+03:00 Emilien Macchi : > Hi, > > I wrote a little blog post about the last cycle in PuppetOpenStack: >

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Puppet OpenStack PTL non-candidacy

2016-09-09 Thread gordon chung
mec, great work trying to make the stuff we build work and telling us to make it less broken. so we play ping pong now? On 09/09/16 12:05 PM, Emilien Macchi wrote: > Hi, > > I wrote a little blog post about the last cycle in PuppetOpenStack: >

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Puppet OpenStack PTL non-candidacy

2016-09-09 Thread Benjamin Kero
Thanks for all your hard work and contributions, making the Puppet-OpenStack project mature and interesting. I look forward to continue contributing to it with you! Ben On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 9:05 AM, Emilien Macchi wrote: > Hi, > > I wrote a little blog post about the last

Re: [openstack-dev] venting -- OpenStack wiki reCAPTCHA

2016-09-09 Thread Tom Fifield
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/368114/ On 廿十六年九月九日 朝 10:51, Morgan Fainberg wrote: On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Tom Fifield > wrote: On 廿十六年九月九日 朝 10:41, Tom Fifield wrote: On 廿十六年九月八日 暮 08:36, Jeremy Stanley wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Puppet OpenStack PTL non-candidacy

2016-09-09 Thread Emilien Macchi
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Denis Egorenko wrote: > Hey Emilien, > > It was a big pleasure to work with you! > > Thank you for all your help! :) And good luck on your next project and > activities! I don't have any next project :-) I just think we should have a new

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Puppet OpenStack PTL non-candidacy

2016-09-09 Thread Paul Belanger
On Fri, Sep 09, 2016 at 12:05:36PM -0400, Emilien Macchi wrote: > Hi, > > I wrote a little blog post about the last cycle in PuppetOpenStack: > http://my1.fr/blog/puppet-openstack-achievements-during-newton-cycle/ > > I can't describe how much I liked to be PTL during the last 18 months > and I

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Puppet OpenStack PTL non-candidacy

2016-09-09 Thread Steve Martinelli
Thanks for your leadership, dedication and hard work over the last 18 months. I've always enjoyed working with you to resolve the gate failures (despite being a cause of said failures :] ) On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Emilien Macchi wrote: > Hi, > > I wrote a little

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] what's up in upgrades?

2016-09-09 Thread Ben Nemec
On 09/08/2016 01:27 PM, Emilien Macchi wrote: What's up in upgrades? 1) Undercloud: Mitaka to Newton We just approved a patch in openstack-infra/tripleo-ci that test undercloud upgrades. I don't think we should make it vote as for now it's quite experimental. Though I'm wondering if we

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Puppet OpenStack PTL non-candidacy

2016-09-09 Thread Javier Pena
Emilien, you've done an awesome job, thanks a lot! Javier - Original Message - > Hi, > > I wrote a little blog post about the last cycle in PuppetOpenStack: > http://my1.fr/blog/puppet-openstack-achievements-during-newton-cycle/ > > I can't describe how much I liked to be PTL during

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Network Template Generator

2016-09-09 Thread Liz Blanchard
On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: > On 08/10/2016 11:05 AM, Liz Blanchard wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ben Nemec > > wrote: > > > > On 08/08/2016 09:22 PM, Dan Prince

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Is this a bug in metadata proxy...

2016-09-09 Thread Paul Michali
Yeah, the setting for user was neutron. The setting for group was different than the process that started up the proxy (which had user neutron and group neutron). The review 161494, was it applied to Liberty? I think in our case, DHCP agent only had dhcp ini file and not metadata ini file, so it

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Puppet OpenStack PTL non-candidacy

2016-09-09 Thread Colleen Murphy
Emilien, Thank you so much for your incredible work on this project. The deployment tools and OpenStack itself is in a better state because of your work. I'm glad to work with you and call you a friend. Colleen On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 9:05 AM, Emilien Macchi wrote: > Hi, >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] governance proposal worth a visit: Write down OpenStack principles

2016-09-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2016-09-09 13:03:42 -0400: > On 09/09/2016 06:22 AM, John Davidge wrote: > > Thierry Carrez wrote: > > > >> [...] > >> In the last years there were a lot of "questions" asked by random > >> contributors, especially around the "One OpenStack" principle (which >

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Puppet OpenStack PTL non-candidacy

2016-09-09 Thread Julien Danjou
On Fri, Sep 09 2016, Emilien Macchi wrote: > However, I think it's time to pass the PTL torch for Ocata cycle. > Don't worry, I'll still be around and bother you when CI is broken ;-) > > Again, a big thank you for those who work with me, Congratulations for your great work during that time, and

[openstack-dev] [nova] Seeking info on PCI Passthrough scheduling

2016-09-09 Thread Carlton, Paul (Cloud Services)
Hi I'm investigating a issue raised by our QA team and trying to locate the documentation or specifications that describe how instances that use PCI-PT devices get scheduled. I'm trying to understand what the expected behavior is when scheduling an instance that used a port associated with

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] [all] Regarding string freeze and back ports involving translatable strings

2016-09-09 Thread Nikhil Komawar
I have had some questions offline so, I think documenting the theory, interpretations and POC will be helpful in our release schedule pages to get this practice consistent across projects. If not required (or if the process is subjective) we do not necessarily have to enforce strict process, but

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements][FFE] Request to allow ceilometerclient 2.6.1 in upper-constraints for newton

2016-09-09 Thread Emilien Macchi
+1, this release fix a bug to better understand the errors in logs for Aodh and Ceilometer. On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Pradeep Kilambi wrote: > Hi, > > This is FFE request to get ceilometerclient 2.6.1 into upper constraints. > There is already a patch for this blocked by

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Puppet OpenStack PTL non-candidacy

2016-09-09 Thread Cody Herriges
On September 9, 2016 at 9:08:56 AM, Emilien Macchi (emil...@redhat.com) wrote: Hi, I wrote a little blog post about the last cycle in PuppetOpenStack: http://my1.fr/blog/puppet-openstack-achievements-during-newton-cycle/ I can't describe how much I liked to be PTL during the last 18

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Puppet OpenStack PTL non-candidacy

2016-09-09 Thread Emilien Macchi
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Cody Herriges wrote: > On September 9, 2016 at 9:08:56 AM, Emilien Macchi (emil...@redhat.com) > wrote: > > Hi, > > I wrote a little blog post about the last cycle in PuppetOpenStack: >

Re: [openstack-dev] venting -- OpenStack wiki reCAPTCHA

2016-09-09 Thread Shamail
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > >> On 2016-09-09 11:06:21 -0500 (-0500), Tom Fifield wrote: >> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/368114/ > [...] > > Thanks! I had already written almost the exact same change, applied > it in production and tested it

Re: [openstack-dev] venting -- OpenStack wiki reCAPTCHA

2016-09-09 Thread Tom Fifield
On 廿十六年九月九日 朝 11:45, Hayes, Graham wrote: On 09/09/2016 08:44, Tom Fifield wrote: On 廿十六年九月八日 暮 08:36, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2016-09-09 01:10:15 + (+), Bhandaru, Malini K wrote: Is it just me who likes to hit the save button often? It gets tedious proving often that you are not a

Re: [openstack-dev] [poll][kolla] Name of baremetal role/group

2016-09-09 Thread Mooney, Sean K
From: Steven Dake (stdake) [mailto:std...@cisco.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 10:59 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [poll][kolla] Name of baremetal role/group Sean, I’d recommend

Re: [openstack-dev] venting -- OpenStack wiki reCAPTCHA

2016-09-09 Thread Shamail
Hi Tom, I'll help with that. :) Thanks, Shamail > On Sep 9, 2016, at 2:49 PM, Tom Fifield wrote: > >> On 廿十六年九月九日 朝 11:45, Hayes, Graham wrote: >>> On 09/09/2016 08:44, Tom Fifield wrote: >>> >>> On 廿十六年九月八日 暮 08:36, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2016-09-09

Re: [openstack-dev] [interop][defcore][ptl] Intro to creating next Interop (DefCore) guideline

2016-09-09 Thread Egle Sigler
Hello Everyone, Thanks everyone for tuning into presentation by Chris Hoge on how the next interop guideline is created. If you missed the session, here is the recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDn4jj0iSK8=youtu.be=260 Slides

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] governance proposal worth a visit: Write down OpenStack principles

2016-09-09 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2016-09-09 14:45:57 +0200 (+0200), Flavio Percoco wrote: [...] > As one of the folks that have always brought up "assuming good > faith" whenever possible, I admit that I mistakenly (?) assumed > that it was shared practice [...] You're certainly not alone. I for one don't wish to welcome

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Timeframe for future elections & "Release stewards"

2016-09-09 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2016-09-09 06:35:10 -0600 (-0600), John Griffith wrote: > On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 2:42 AM, Thierry Carrez > wrote: [...] > > That doesn't prevent you from doing it Nova-style and use the PTL as the > > release steward. It just lets you use someone else if you want to. A

[openstack-dev] [Cinder] FFE request for RBD replication

2016-09-09 Thread Gorka Eguileor
Hi, As some of you may know, Jon Bernard (jbernard on IRC) has been working on the RBD v2.1 replication implementation [1] for a while, and we would like to request a Feature Freeze Exception for that work, as we believe it is a good candidate being a low risk change for the integrity of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] [all] Regarding string freeze and back ports involving translatable strings

2016-09-09 Thread Ben Swartzlander
On 09/08/2016 08:37 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 9/8/2016 7:05 PM, Ravi, Goutham wrote: Hi, I was looking for some clarity around backports of bug fixes that qualify the stable branch policy [1]. What is

Re: [openstack-dev] [poll][kolla] Name of baremetal role/group

2016-09-09 Thread Mooney, Sean K
> -Original Message- > From: Mark Casey [mailto:markca...@pointofrental.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 7:38 PM > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [poll][kolla] Name of baremetal

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] [all] Regarding string freeze and back ports involving translatable strings

2016-09-09 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 9/9/2016 1:58 PM, Ben Swartzlander wrote: On 09/08/2016 08:37 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 9/8/2016 7:05 PM, Ravi, Goutham wrote: Hi, I was looking for some clarity around backports of bug fixes that qualify the stable branch policy [1].

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Puppet OpenStack PTL non-candidacy

2016-09-09 Thread Cody Herriges
On September 9, 2016 at 10:15:09 AM, Emilien Macchi (emil...@redhat.com) wrote: On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Cody Herriges wrote:  > On September 9, 2016 at 9:08:56 AM, Emilien Macchi (emil...@redhat.com)  > wrote:  >  > Hi,  >  > I wrote a little blog post about the last

[openstack-dev] [requirements][FFE] Request to allow ceilometerclient 2.6.1 in upper-constraints for newton

2016-09-09 Thread Pradeep Kilambi
Hi, This is FFE request to get ceilometerclient 2.6.1 into upper constraints. There is already a patch for this blocked by freeze[1]. ceilometerclient 2.6.1 was cut 3 days after the freeze looks like and it includes various critical fixes such as[2]. Without this aodh logs fill up with following

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Timeframe for future elections & "Release stewards"

2016-09-09 Thread Nikhil Komawar
On 9/9/16 4:42 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > John Griffith wrote: >> ​I think Sean Dague made some really good points and I'd tend to lean >> that way. Honestly charters, bylaws, governance etc shift or are >> rewritten fairly often. Why not just change when we do elections to >> correspond with

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] what's up in upgrades?

2016-09-09 Thread Paul Belanger
On Fri, Sep 09, 2016 at 09:29:46AM +0200, mathieu bultel wrote: > On 09/09/2016 12:42 AM, Emilien Macchi wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 4:18 PM, David Moreau Simard wrote: > >> How long does the upgrade job take ? > > undercloud upgrade is a matter of 10 min max. > > overcloud

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] governance proposal worth a visit: Write down OpenStack principles

2016-09-09 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/09/2016 02:10 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2016-09-09 13:03:42 -0400: My vote is definitely for something #2-like, as I've said before and on the review, I believe OpenStack should be a "cloud toolkit" composed of well-scoped and limited services in the

[openstack-dev] [release][ptl] ocata schedule approved

2016-09-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
Lacking any significant negative comments, the Ocata schedule proposed in [1] has been approved. See [2] for a more nicely rendered version. Projects with team-specific deadlines should go ahead and propose patches to add that information, as time permits. Doug [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Timeframe for future elections & "Release stewards"

2016-09-09 Thread Rob Cresswell
I've been toying with send this email for a while, but here goes: this all feels like overcomplication and changing of a system that doesn't really need to change. I've read the pros and cons, and I still can't really see a convincing reason not to move the PTL election to just-before-PTG, so

Re: [openstack-dev] [QA] [Ironic] [Tempest] Problem with paramiko on grenade

2016-09-09 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
On 09/08/2016 11:24 AM, Anton Arefiev wrote: Hi folks! We've ran into the problem with paramiko, similar to[1] in Inspector. Our grenade job fails on TestNetworkBasicOps.test_network_basic_ops with [2] or [3] in 90% cases. Folks, we're close to the release, and this becomes critical. We don't

Re: [openstack-dev] [release] Release countdown for week R-3, 12 - 16 Sept -- Release Candidate Deadline

2016-09-09 Thread Thierry Carrez
Dmitry Tantsur wrote: > Could you please link to email you're talking about? I can't find > anything like that neither in my inbox nor on > http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/author.html. It was sent directly to PTLs and release liaisons in an effort to reach them more

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Timeframe for future elections & "Release stewards"

2016-09-09 Thread Thierry Carrez
Rob Cresswell wrote: > I've been toying with send this email for a while, but here goes: this > all feels like overcomplication and changing of a system that doesn't > really need to change. Except the proposal here is actually to not change anything, but I see what you mean. > I've read the

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] Problem regarding named volume data location

2016-09-09 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
I believe what Pual was indicating was On 9/2/16, 12:59 PM, "Christian Berendt" wrote: > On 02 Sep 2016, at 19:04, Jeffrey Zhang wrote: > > I think the right solution should warn the end-user: you need configure a large

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] governance proposal worth a visit: Write down OpenStack principles

2016-09-09 Thread Thiago da Silva
On 09/09/2016 04:27 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Tomato, tomato. We're all, I think, looking at this "One OpenStack" principle from different perspectives. You say "a toolkit". I say "a project". Thierry said "a product". The important word in all of those phrases is "a" -- as in singular.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Timeframe for future elections & "Release stewards"

2016-09-09 Thread gordon chung
On 09/09/16 03:50 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > > Do we really expect the next cycle PTL to be planning for the next cycle > midway through the current cycle? That seems pretty extreme to me, when > we're still crunching to the 3rd milestone and trying to wrap things up > for feature freeze, which

Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] Core Nomination for Christian Berendt (berendt on irc)

2016-09-09 Thread Vikram Hosakote (vhosakot)
+1. Great work Christian! Regards, Vikram Hosakote IRC: vhosakot From: "Steven Dake (stdake)" > Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" >

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements][FFE] pymod2pkg 0.5.4

2016-09-09 Thread Tony Breeds
On Fri, Sep 09, 2016 at 12:26:29PM +0200, Dirk Müller wrote: > Hi, > > OpenStack RPM Packaging would like to update to pymod2pkg 0.5.4: > > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367388/ > > this package is only used by packaging (renderspec and rpm-packaging > git repos) that are on a

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements][FFE] Request to allow ceilometerclient 2.6.1 in upper-constraints for newton

2016-09-09 Thread Tony Breeds
On Fri, Sep 09, 2016 at 03:29:23PM -0400, Pradeep Kilambi wrote: > Hi, > > This is FFE request to get ceilometerclient 2.6.1 into upper constraints. > There is already a patch for this blocked by freeze[1]. > > ceilometerclient 2.6.1 was cut 3 days after the freeze looks like and it > includes

Re: [openstack-dev] [poll][kolla] Name of baremetal role/group

2016-09-09 Thread Mark Casey
On 9/9/2016 2:08 PM, Mooney, Sean K wrote: -Original Message- From: Mark Casey [mailto:markca...@pointofrental.com] Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 7:38 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re:

Re: [openstack-dev] venting -- OpenStack wiki reCAPTCHA

2016-09-09 Thread Tom Fifield
On 廿十六年九月九日 暮 02:01, Shamail wrote: Hi Tom, I'll help with that. :) Thanks Shamail - standby - I will write up instructions and send them through. Thanks, Shamail On Sep 9, 2016, at 2:49 PM, Tom Fifield wrote: On 廿十六年九月九日 朝 11:45, Hayes, Graham wrote: On

[openstack-dev] [requirements][FFE] block graphviz 0.5.0

2016-09-09 Thread Swapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap)
Currently kolla gate jobs are failing due to issues in graphviz 0.5.0. [1] We need to unblock the gates by blocking graphviz===0.5.0. [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367416/ -- Best Regards, Swapnil Kulkarni irc : coolsvap

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] what's up in upgrades?

2016-09-09 Thread mathieu bultel
On 09/09/2016 12:42 AM, Emilien Macchi wrote: > On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 4:18 PM, David Moreau Simard wrote: >> How long does the upgrade job take ? > undercloud upgrade is a matter of 10 min max. > overcloud upgrade will be much more, I don't have metrics right now. > matbu maybe?

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] governance proposal worth a visit: Write down OpenStack principles

2016-09-09 Thread Joshua Harlow
Chris Dent wrote: There's a governance proposal in progress at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357260/ that I think is worth a visit by anyone interested in the definition and evolution of OpenStack's identity and the processes and guidelines used in OpenStack. I'm assuming that not everyone

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements][FFE] block graphviz 0.5.0

2016-09-09 Thread Swapnil Kulkarni
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Shake Chen wrote: > seem the link is error. > > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367740/ > > > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Swapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) > wrote: >> >> Currently kolla gate jobs are failing due to

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements][FFE] block graphviz 0.5.0

2016-09-09 Thread Shake Chen
seem the link is error. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367740/ On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Swapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) wrote: > Currently kolla gate jobs are failing due to issues in graphviz 0.5.0. [1] > > We need to unblock the gates by blocking graphviz===0.5.0.

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements][FFE] block graphviz 0.5.0

2016-09-09 Thread Tony Breeds
On Fri, Sep 09, 2016 at 11:58:29AM +0530, Swapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) wrote: > Currently kolla gate jobs are failing due to issues in graphviz 0.5.0. [1] > > We need to unblock the gates by blocking graphviz===0.5.0. It looks to me that the only package directly affected by this FFE is kolla

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Nominate Ilya Kutukov for fuel-plugins-core

2016-09-09 Thread Dmitry Guryanov
+1 On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Alexey Stepanov wrote: > +1 > Best regards, > Alexey Stepanov. > > чт, 8 сент. 2016 г., 12:19 Bulat Gaifullin : > >> +1 >> >> Regards, >> Bulat Gaifullin >> Mirantis Inc. >> >> >> >> On 08 Sep 2016, at 12:05,

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] [telemetry] [requirements] [FFE] Oslo.db 4.13.2

2016-09-09 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
Tony Breeds wrote: On Thu, Sep 08, 2016 at 09:21:57AM -0500, Matthew Thode wrote: Ya that makes sense, the patch can be altered to just block 4.13.1,2 (assuming 4.13.3 really does fix it) I feel like we've gotten ourselves (well at least I'm confused) about what

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements][FFE] block graphviz 0.5.0

2016-09-09 Thread Dave Walker
On 9 September 2016 at 08:42, Tony Breeds wrote: > On Fri, Sep 09, 2016 at 11:58:29AM +0530, Swapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) > wrote: > > Currently kolla gate jobs are failing due to issues in graphviz 0.5.0. > [1] > > > > We need to unblock the gates by blocking

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Timeframe for future elections & "Release stewards"

2016-09-09 Thread Thierry Carrez
John Griffith wrote: > ​I think Sean Dague made some really good points and I'd tend to lean > that way. Honestly charters, bylaws, governance etc shift or are > rewritten fairly often. Why not just change when we do elections to > correspond with releases and keep the continuity that we have

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Nominate Ilya Kutukov for fuel-plugins-core

2016-09-09 Thread Maksim Malchuk
+1 On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Igor Kalnitsky wrote: > Hey Fuelers, > > I'd like to nominate Ilya for joining fuel-plugins-core group. He's a > top contributor by both reviews [1] and commits [2] over the past > release cycle. Fuel cores, please share your votes. > > -

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Timeframe for future elections & "Release stewards"

2016-09-09 Thread Thierry Carrez
Sean Dague wrote: > [...] > I'm also not very concerned about delayed authority of the PTL. Peaceful > handoff should be a pretty basic tenant in projects. Knowing about it > for a longer time shouldn't be a big deal. If it causes giant strife to > pass the torch from one PTL to the next there is

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] governance proposal worth a visit: Write down OpenStack principles

2016-09-09 Thread Julien Danjou
On Fri, Sep 09 2016, gordon chung wrote: > On 08/09/16 09:13 AM, Chris Dent wrote: > >> The truth, for me, is that I agree with most of the things in the >> document. What is problematic for me is that I know a lot of people >> who will not. Because of the ordering of the process and the >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] governance proposal worth a visit: Write down OpenStack principles

2016-09-09 Thread John Davidge
Thierry Carrez wrote: >[...] >In the last years there were a lot of "questions" asked by random >contributors, especially around the "One OpenStack" principle (which >seems to fuel most of the reaction here). Remarks like "we should really >decide once and for all if OpenStack is a collection of

[openstack-dev] [requirements][FFE] pymod2pkg 0.5.4

2016-09-09 Thread Dirk Müller
Hi, OpenStack RPM Packaging would like to update to pymod2pkg 0.5.4: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367388/ this package is only used by packaging (renderspec and rpm-packaging git repos) that are on a release-independent schedule (iirc we're tagged as never-release) and since we're

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