Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Dropping Python-2.6 support

2015-01-14 Thread Tomasz Napierala
> On 14 Jan 2015, at 09:18, Przemyslaw Kaminski wrote: > > I just made a general remark regarding why migrating to 2.7 is > profitable (I understood Bartek's question this way). > > The point about Red Hat guaranteeing security fixes to 2.6 is a good > one. Also, it's true we don't use SSL for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Dropping Python-2.6 support

2015-01-14 Thread Tomasz Napierala
> On 14 Jan 2015, at 08:50, Kamil Sambor wrote: > > Tomasz we are not using ssl in our client so now we not gain anything from > moving to 2.7 . I meant „security support” in terms of fixing security issues within Python itself. For 2.6.x line it’s over, as Przemek mentioned above: "With the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Dropping Python-2.6 support

2015-01-14 Thread Igor Kalnitsky
Guys, The question not about "Do we want to drop 2.6 or not?". The question about "Do we have resources to do that in this release cycle?". It may be not as easy at it seems and it obviously requires additional testing. - Igor On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Przemyslaw Kaminski wrote: > I jus

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Dropping Python-2.6 support

2015-01-14 Thread Przemyslaw Kaminski
I just made a general remark regarding why migrating to 2.7 is profitable (I understood Bartek's question this way). The point about Red Hat guaranteeing security fixes to 2.6 is a good one. Also, it's true we don't use SSL for fuelclient so yes, if other OpenStack projects keep 2.6 we should stic

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Dropping Python-2.6 support

2015-01-13 Thread Kamil Sambor
Tomasz we are not using ssl in our client so now we not gain anything from moving to 2.7 . Best regards, – Kamil S. On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 8:32 AM, Bartłomiej Piotrowski < bpiotrow...@mirantis.com> wrote: > On 01/13/2015 11:16 PM, Tomasz Napierala wrote: > >> >> On 13 Jan 2015, at 10:51, Przem

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Dropping Python-2.6 support

2015-01-13 Thread Bartłomiej Piotrowski
On 01/13/2015 11:16 PM, Tomasz Napierala wrote: On 13 Jan 2015, at 10:51, Przemyslaw Kaminski wrote: For example https://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6.9/ "All official maintenance for Python 2.6, including security patches, has ended." https://hg.python.org/cpython/raw-file/v2.7.9/M

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Dropping Python-2.6 support

2015-01-13 Thread Andreas Jaeger
On 01/13/2015 11:16 PM, Tomasz Napierala wrote: > >> On 13 Jan 2015, at 10:51, Przemyslaw Kaminski wrote: >> >> For example >> >> https://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6.9/ >> >> "All official maintenance for Python 2.6, including security patches, >> has ended." >> >> https://hg.python.org/

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Dropping Python-2.6 support

2015-01-13 Thread Tomasz Napierala
> On 13 Jan 2015, at 10:51, Przemyslaw Kaminski wrote: > > For example > > https://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6.9/ > > "All official maintenance for Python 2.6, including security patches, > has ended." > > https://hg.python.org/cpython/raw-file/v2.7.9/Misc/NEWS > > Especially the SS

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Dropping Python-2.6 support

2015-01-13 Thread Przemyslaw Kaminski
For example https://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6.9/ "All official maintenance for Python 2.6, including security patches, has ended." https://hg.python.org/cpython/raw-file/v2.7.9/Misc/NEWS Especially the SSL stuff is interesting http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 P. On 01/13/2015 08:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Dropping Python-2.6 support

2015-01-12 Thread Bartłomiej Piotrowski
On 01/12/2015 03:55 PM, Roman Prykhodchenko wrote: Folks, as it was planned and then announced at the OpenStack summit OpenStack services deprecated Python-2.6 support. At the moment several services and libraries are already only compatible with Python>=2.7. And there is no common sense in t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Dropping Python-2.6 support

2015-01-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
> On Jan 12, 2015, at 9:55 AM, Roman Prykhodchenko wrote: > > Folks, > > as it was planned and then announced at the OpenStack summit OpenStack > services deprecated Python-2.6 support. At the moment several services and > libraries are already only compatible with Python>=2.7. And there is n

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Dropping Python-2.6 support

2015-01-12 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
The python27 packages Ihar has linked do not conflict with the system python 2.6, so I don't see any problems with the rollback here. Is rollback the only concern for the master node upgrade use case? On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Evgeniy L wrote: > Hi Dmitry, > >>> Client uses REST API to in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Dropping Python-2.6 support

2015-01-12 Thread Evgeniy L
Hi Dmitry, >> Client uses REST API to interact with Fuel, how is Python version a factor? Fuel client is written in python it means it won't work on the master node with 2.6 python if you drop compatibility with it. >> What exactly is the use cases that requires a new client deployed on an old F

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Dropping Python-2.6 support

2015-01-12 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Evgeniy L wrote: > Agree with Igor, I think we cannot just drop compatibility for fuel client > with 2.6 python, Hm, didn't Igor say in his email that "we have to drop python 2.6 support"? > the reason is we have old master nodes which have > 2.6 python, and the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Dropping Python-2.6 support

2015-01-12 Thread Evgeniy L
Hi, Agree with Igor, I think we cannot just drop compatibility for fuel client with 2.6 python, the reason is we have old master nodes which have 2.6 python, and the newer fuel client should work fine on these environments. Or we can try to install python 2.7 on the master during the upgrade. As

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Dropping Python-2.6 support

2015-01-12 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
You can get Python 2.7 via SCL: https://www.softwarecollections.org/en/scls/rhscl/python27/ On 01/12/2015 05:32 PM, Igor Kalnitsky wrote: Hi, Roman, Indeed, we have to go forward and drop python 2.6 support. That's how it supposed to be, but, unfortunately, it may not be as easy as it seems at

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Dropping Python-2.6 support

2015-01-12 Thread Igor Kalnitsky
Hi, Roman, Indeed, we have to go forward and drop python 2.6 support. That's how it supposed to be, but, unfortunately, it may not be as easy as it seems at first glance. Fuel Master is flying on top of Cent OS 6.5 which doesn't have python 2.7 at all. So we must either run master node on Cent OS