[OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Chris Miller
explanation. -Original Message- From: Hani Suleiman [mailto:hani;formicary.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Property tag (beating the decomposed horse) Excellent! A great way of ensuring nobody is able to use webwork without first going through lots

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Hani Suleiman
the current ever-so-transparent ww:property tag that everyone just understands without any explanation. -Original Message- From: Hani Suleiman [mailto:hani;formicary.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Property tag (beating the decomposed horse

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Suleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse) It's a different approach I suppose. I didn't know of the TWO uses of the propertytag, let alone the 3 uses. I'm not angry

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Property tag (beating the decomposed horse) Excellent! A great way of ensuring nobody is able to use webwork without first going through lots of docs. --- This sf.net email is sponsored

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Hani Suleiman
, but this this stubbornness is pretty sickening. -Pat - Original Message - From: Hani Suleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse) It's a different approach I suppose

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Maurice Parker
Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse) It's a different approach I suppose. I didn't know of the TWO uses of the propertytag, let alone the 3 uses. I'm not angry or irritated at anyone because of it, in fact, I was rather delighted when I

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Blake Day
Well, I'm not sure if my vote counts, but I'm certainly +1. - Original Message - From: Patrick Lightbody [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse) Oh, and everyone correct

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Patrick Lightbody
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse) It's a different approach I suppose. I didn't know of the TWO uses of the propertytag, let alone the 3 uses. I'm not angry or irritated at anyone

RE: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Jason Carreira
anything, then how will Xwork ever improve? -Original Message- From: Maurice Parker [mailto:maurice.parker;pmic.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 1:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse) Patrick Lightbody wrote: You might

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread boxed
1) Changing the behavior of the PropertyTag hurts our userbase. No examples given. Thus an unfounded opinion with no base in logic. 2) Adding addional tags makes the PropertyTag (and the taglibs as a whole) more confusing, not less. Adding tags that are simple and straight forwards makes

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Rickard Öberg
Jason Carreira wrote: I think this type of break with the past is exactly what Xwork 2.0 SHOULD be for. Leave the property tag in there, but mark it as deprecated with links to the new, much more intuitive tags (although I don't think we need separate push and pop tags, just the ww:context). If

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Hani Suleiman
Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse) It's a different approach I suppose. I didn't know of the TWO uses of the propertytag, let alone the 3 uses. I'm not angry or irritated at anyone because of it, in fact, I was rather delighted when

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Joseph Ottinger
what everyone else asks of them. -Pat - Original Message - From: Hani Suleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse) Alright, following your ranting

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Rickard Öberg
boxed wrote: 1) Changing the behavior of the PropertyTag hurts our userbase. No examples given. Thus an unfounded opinion with no base in logic. I am a WebWork user. I use the PropertyTag. Changing the behaviour of the PropertyTag hurts me. Better? 2) Adding addional tags makes the

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Patrick Lightbody
So the argument that a tag named property is less intuitive than two tags named push and print is a bad one? -Pat - Original Message - From: Rickard Öberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating

RE: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Jason Carreira
;dreambean.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 1:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse) Jason Carreira wrote: I think this type of break with the past is exactly what Xwork 2.0 SHOULD be for. Leave the property tag

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Rickard Öberg
Patrick Lightbody wrote: So the argument that a tag named property is less intuitive than two tags named push and print is a bad one? I wasn't talking about this specific instance, but more in general, in reply to Jason's comment if we can't ever change anything, then how will Xwork ever

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Patrick Lightbody
I am a WebWork user. I use the PropertyTag. Changing the behaviour of the PropertyTag hurts me. Better? Likewise for me (except the opposite) :) 2) Adding addional tags makes the PropertyTag (and the taglibs as a whole) more confusing, not less. Adding tags that are simple and

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Rickard Öberg
boxed wrote: 1) Changing the behavior of the PropertyTag hurts our userbase. No examples given. Thus an unfounded opinion with no base in logic. I am a WebWork user. I use the PropertyTag. Changing the behaviour of the PropertyTag hurts me. ...and he fell into the trap. We do NOT advocate

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread matt baldree
PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse) Oh, and everyone correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe this how the votes stack up (and of course, most of the +1 crew doesn't really have real voting power, but I think