Re: [Openvpn-users] OpenVPN binary package (2.3.4) for OpenBSD?

2014-07-29 Thread Lisa Minogue
Thanks Gert for your reply.

Suppose the maintainer for OpenVPN port at OpenBSD says that the current 
OpenVPN 2.3.4 version will only be available for OpenBSD 5.6 (scheduled for 
release in November 2014), what should users of OpenBSD 5.5 do?

Regards.

Lisa

 
 From: Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de
 Sent: Tue Jul 29 07:41:58 CEST 2014
 To: Lisa Minogue lmino...@mail.be
 Subject: Re: [Openvpn-users] OpenVPN binary package (2.3.4) for OpenBSD?
 
 
 Hi,
 
 On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 04:08:07AM +0200, Lisa Minogue wrote:
  Could someone tell me where I can download the binary package of the latest 
  version, 2.3.4, of OpenVPN client for OpenBSD? The version available for 
  OpenBSD 5.5 in the packages directory is 2.3.2.
 
 That's a question that should be posed to whoever maintains the OpenBSD
 binary package (and the ports tree).
 
 See here:
 
 http://www.openbsd.org/faq/ports/ports.html
 
 section 1.9 explains how to find the maintainer for a port, so find
 the maintainer for the OpenVPN port, and ask him to bump the revision
 to 2.3.4 (which FreeBSD and NetBSD have done, btw :) ).
 
 I do not have a current OpenBSD system around, otherwise I could look
 myself.
 
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Re: [Openvpn-users] OpenVPN binary package (2.3.4) for OpenBSD?

2014-07-29 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 11:27:27AM +0200, Lisa Minogue wrote:
 Thanks Gert for your reply.
 
 Suppose the maintainer for OpenVPN port at OpenBSD says that the
 current OpenVPN 2.3.4 version will only be available for OpenBSD
 5.6 (scheduled for release in November 2014), what should users of
 OpenBSD 5.5 do?

Compile it yourself?  OpenVPN should compile nicely and without issues
on OpenBSD (and compiling OpenVPN on unix versions is straightforward).

OTOH, if they bump the version in the ports tree, you can just compile from
the ports tree - ports tree usually works for older versions as well.

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Re: [Openvpn-users] OpenVPN binary package (2.3.4) for OpenBSD?

2014-07-29 Thread Lisa Minogue
 
 From: Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de
 Sent: Tue Jul 29 11:54:37 CEST 2014
 To: Lisa Minogue lmino...@mail.be
 Subject: Re: [Openvpn-users] OpenVPN binary package (2.3.4) for OpenBSD?
  
 Compile it yourself?  OpenVPN should compile nicely and without issues on 
 OpenBSD (and compiling OpenVPN on unix versions is straightforward).

Is there any guide on how to compile OpenVPN on *nix operating systems? I have 
search for a how-to on openvpn.net and found none there.

If I were to get someone to help me compile, what would be the technical (I 
mean IT) knowledge that THAT person needs to have? A background in C, C++, 
networking, OpenBSD? The source code of OpenVPN is in C, yes?
 
 OTOH, if they bump the version in the ports tree, you can just compile from 
 the ports tree - ports tree usually works for older versions as well.

Thanks for the above tip, Gert.

Regards.

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Re: [Openvpn-users] OpenVPN binary package (2.3.4) for OpenBSD?

2014-07-29 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 01:30:35PM +0200, Lisa Minogue wrote:
  Compile it yourself?  OpenVPN should compile nicely and without issues on 
  OpenBSD (and compiling OpenVPN on unix versions is straightforward).
 
 Is there any guide on how to compile OpenVPN on *nix operating systems? I 
 have search for a how-to on openvpn.net and found none there.
 

Well, in the package itself, there are two files called README and
INSTALL.  On community.openvpn.net, there should be something, but
for anyone who has compiled any piece of open source software beforehand,
OpenVPN is just as basic as it gets.

- get the tar ball
- call tar xvfz openvpn-2.3.4.tar.gz to extract
- cd openvpn-2.3.4
- ./configure
- make
- make install


 If I were to get someone to help me compile, what would be the technical (I 
 mean IT) knowledge that THAT person needs to have? A background in C, C++, 
 networking, OpenBSD? The source code of OpenVPN is in C, yes?

No background needed, just basic capabilities in reading instructions
and using google.

gert

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Re: [Openvpn-users] OpenVPN binary package (2.3.4) for OpenBSD?

2014-07-29 Thread Lisa Minogue
Hi,

 
 From: Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de
 Sent: Tue Jul 29 13:53:27 CEST 2014
 To: Lisa Minogue lmino...@mail.be
 Subject: Re: [Openvpn-users] OpenVPN binary package (2.3.4) for OpenBSD?
 
 
 Well, in the package itself, there are two files called README and 
 INSTALL.  On community.openvpn.net, there should be something, but for 
 anyone who has compiled any piece of open source software beforehand, 
 OpenVPN is just as basic as it gets.
 
 - get the tar ball
 - call tar xvfz openvpn-2.3.4.tar.gz to extract
 - cd openvpn-2.3.4
 - ./configure
 - make
 - make install

Thanks, Gert, for the tip.

 No background needed, just basic capabilities in reading instructions and 
 using google.

Awesome reply :)

[seriously, if it's so easy as you seem to make it out to be, why doesn't the 
maintainer of OpenVPN for OpenBSD compile and upload version 2.3.4 sooner? 
What's holding him back? If I can compile it successfully I will do everyone a 
favor by submitting it for inclusion in the packages directory. Doesn't 
OpenBSD pride itself in being the security-focused OS?]

Regards.

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Re: [Openvpn-users] OpenVPN binary package (2.3.4) for OpenBSD?

2014-07-29 Thread Lisa Minogue
Hi Samuli

It's nice to hear from you.

Gert has helped to clarify my doubts. That's nice of him :)
 
 Maybe there is no OpenBSD binary package for OpenVPN 2.3.4? In that case you 
 need to compile 2.3.4 from the sources available on openvpn.net.

Yes, Gert did advise me to compile it using the source tarball at openvpn.net 
as there is no OpenBSD binary package for OpenVPN 2.3.4.

After downloading the source tarball, 2.3.4, and unzipping it, I studied the 
contents of INSTALL file.

1. Do I have to download easy-rsa, OpenSSL library and LZO compression library? 
The INSTALL file's directions SEEM to tell me those 3 items are not included in 
the source tarball.

2. There is a paragraph in the INSTALL file that says:

OpenBSD users can use ports or packages to install lzo, but remember to add 
CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include LDFLAGS=L/usr/local/lib directives to 
configure, since gcc will not find them otherwise.

Does that mean that I'll have to modify the 'configure' command to look like 
the following?

./configure --CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include LDFLAGS=L/usr/local/lib

Thanks for your help.

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Re: [Openvpn-users] OpenVPN binary package (2.3.4) for OpenBSD?

2014-07-29 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 03:08:25PM +0200, Lisa Minogue wrote:
 [seriously, if it's so easy as you seem to make it out to be,
 why doesn't the maintainer of OpenVPN for OpenBSD compile and upload
 version 2.3.4 sooner? What's holding him back? 

Ask them.  Maybe they are just humans, need to eat and sleep at times,
and have other more urgent things to do in the meantime.

 If I can compile it
 successfully I will do everyone a favor by submitting it for
 inclusion in the packages directory. Doesn't OpenBSD pride itself
 in being the security-focused OS?]

2.3.2 - 2.3.4 has no significant security impact (if I remember correctly),
it's just the provided *windows* binaries have, because they bundle OpenSSL
and that one was vulnerable.  So from a security PoV, it's ok to stick to
2.3.2, as any version change could bring in new bugs...

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Re: [Openvpn-users] OpenVPN binary package (2.3.4) for OpenBSD?

2014-07-29 Thread Lisa Minogue
Hi

 2.3.2 - 2.3.4 has no significant security impact (if I remember correctly), 
 it's just the provided *windows* binaries have, because they bundle OpenSSL 
 and that one was vulnerable.  So from a security PoV, it's ok to stick to
 2.3.2, as any version change could bring in new bugs...

Thanks Gert.


Hi Samuli

As you are the community manager and the person who compiles and creates 
binaries for Windows and Debian platforms, could you confirm that, from a 
security point of view, there is no difference in using Linux versions 2.3.2 
and 2.3.4? Thanks for your help.

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Re: [Openvpn-users] OpenVPN binary package (2.3.4) for OpenBSD?

2014-07-29 Thread Samuli Seppänen

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 Hi

 2.3.2 - 2.3.4 has no significant security impact (if I remember
correctly), it's just the provided *windows* binaries have, because they
bundle OpenSSL and that one was vulnerable.  So from a security PoV,
it's ok to stick to
 2.3.2, as any version change could bring in new bugs...

 Thanks Gert.


 Hi Samuli

 As you are the community manager and the person who compiles and
creates binaries for Windows and Debian platforms, could you confirm
that, from a security point of view, there is no difference in using
Linux versions 2.3.2 and 2.3.4? Thanks for your help.

I can't confirm that 2.3.2 and 2.3.4 are equal from a security point of
view, because as Gert said, any version change could bring in new
[security] bugs :).

However, what I can confirm is that OpenVPN Linux binaries are almost
always linked to OpenSSL packages provided by the Linux distribution;
this is also the case for my OpenVPN Debian/Ubuntu packages, Just use an
up-to-date OpenSSL version from your distro's repositories and you
should be fine.

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Re: [Openvpn-users] OpenVPN binary package (2.3.4) for OpenBSD?

2014-07-29 Thread Samuli Seppänen

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 Hi Samuli

 I can't confirm that 2.3.2 and 2.3.4 are equal from a security point
of view, because as Gert said, any version change could bring in new
[security] bugs :).

 Please clarify for me and possibly for those who are interested in
this issue.

 On the page entitled Overview of changes in OpenVPN v2.3 (url:
https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/ChangesInOpenvpn23), as one
moves from version 2.3.2 to 2.3.3, there are more than 20 fixes by
various OpenVPN developers. And again from version 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 there
are a few more fixes.

 Are those fixes soley for Windows platform? Do the fixes apply to
Linux platforms as well? If yes, don't you think it's better for me to
compile an OpenVPN package binary (version 2.3.4) for OpenBSD if I wish
to use OpenBSD as my primary OS?

If the fixes are platform-specific, they will be marked as such. For
example, Fixed an issue x on platform y. If OpenVPN 2.3.2 is
working fine for you don't need to upgrade to 2.3.4.

New issues are found and fixes all the time, but those don't make older
versions unusable, only slightly less perfect than the newer ones.
Then again, new versions of software introduce new problems, so an older
version might be better in some respects than a newer one.

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Re: [Openvpn-users] OpenVPN binary package (2.3.4) for OpenBSD?

2014-07-29 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 06:00:48PM +0200, Lisa Minogue wrote:
  I can't confirm that 2.3.2 and 2.3.4 are equal from a security point of 
  view, because as Gert said, any version change could bring in new 
  [security] bugs :).
 
 Please clarify for me and possibly for those who are interested in this issue.
 
 On the page entitled Overview of changes in OpenVPN v2.3 (url: 
 https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/ChangesInOpenvpn23), as one moves 
 from version 2.3.2 to 2.3.3, there are more than 20 fixes by various OpenVPN 
 developers. And again from version 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 there are a few more fixes.

Those are bugfixes, but not *security* fixes.  Like, some seldom-used
functionality not working right on some of the supported OSes (like
the route-gateway stuff, which only affects *client* use on some of the
BSDs).

 Are those fixes soley for Windows platform? Do the fixes apply to Linux 
 platforms as well? If yes, don't you think it's better for me to compile an 
 OpenVPN package binary (version 2.3.4) for OpenBSD if I wish to use OpenBSD 
 as my primary OS?

I'm not sure OpenBSD is the right OS for you.  OpenBSD will require that
you get friends with the ports system, how to compile software from
packages, and so on.

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Re: [Openvpn-users] OpenVPN binary package (2.3.4) for OpenBSD?

2014-07-29 Thread Lisa Minogue
Hi Gert,

 
 Those are bugfixes, but not *security* fixes.  Like, some seldom-used 
 functionality not working right on some of the supported OSes (like the 
 route-gateway stuff, which only affects *client* use on some of the BSDs).

You wrote: which only affects client use on some of the BSDs.

Is OpenBSD one of them?

 I'm not sure OpenBSD is the right OS for you.

I don't know the reasons for your saying that. One of my hobbies is to learn 
how to use other *nix operating systems as an end-user. Is there anything wrong 
with that?

 OpenBSD will require that you get friends with the ports system, how to 
 compile software from packages, and so on.

I don't exactly understand what you mean by you get friends with the ports 
system.

Well I can find someone among my friends such as those on Facebook who can help 
me compile OpenVPN from source tarball for OpenBSD.

Regards.

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Re: [Openvpn-users] OpenVPN binary package (2.3.4) for OpenBSD?

2014-07-29 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 11:03:46PM +0200, Lisa Minogue wrote:
  Those are bugfixes, but not *security* fixes.  Like, some seldom-used 
  functionality not working right on some of the supported OSes (like the 
  route-gateway stuff, which only affects *client* use on some of the BSDs).
 
 You wrote: which only affects client use on some of the BSDs.
 
 Is OpenBSD one of them?

Could be.  Check the ChangeLogs.  But it's *client* use, so you won't see
this if you run the server on OpenBSD.

  I'm not sure OpenBSD is the right OS for you.
 
 I don't know the reasons for your saying that. One of my hobbies
 is to learn how to use other *nix operating systems as an end-user.
 Is there anything wrong with that?

The hobby is fine, but the questions you ask give me the impression that
OpenBSD and you won't get along too well.  OpenBSD is very user friendly,
but it's very selective who its friends are.

 Well I can find someone among my friends such as those on Facebook who can 
 help me compile OpenVPN from source tarball for OpenBSD.

What is Facebook?

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