Re: [OPSAWG] New revision of "Green Networking Metrics" (draft-cx-green-metrics)

2023-03-09 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Alex, This is an interesting read. Here I provide some comments and observations. 1. I think the energy consumption metrics on equipment is more meaningful when it's normalized to the device's capacity and capability. For example, energy per bit can be used to compare which is greener

Re: [OPSAWG]  WG LC: Export of Segment Routing over IPv6 Information in IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX)

2022-12-01 Thread Haoyu Song
Dear OPSAWG, I support the WGLC for this document and believe it’s an important extension to IPFIX to address the emerging SRv6 use case. Thanks! Haoyu From: OPSAWG mailto:opsawg-boun...@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of Joe Clarke (jclarke) Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 2:54 PM To:

Re: [OPSAWG] CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-tgraf-opsawg-ipfix-srv6-srh

2022-08-21 Thread Haoyu Song
I support the adoption of this draft. It’s good to see a single standard can be extended for telemetry data export in different networks and scenarios. I believe this is a valuable work and I’d like to review and contribute to this work in the future. Best regards, Haoyu Get Outlook for

Re: [OPSAWG] A review of draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework-16

2022-02-22 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Rob, Thank you for the comments and questions. We just uploaded an update version of the draft based on the latest review comments. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework/17/ We'd like to emphasize that this is an architecture not a protocol solution. In fact,

Re: [OPSAWG] A review of draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework-16

2022-02-21 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Adrian, Thank you very much for the review and editing! We'll update the draft to reflect the latest thoughts. I agree with you that the IPv4 extension is unlikely to happen so we'll remove that part in the new revision. Best regards, Haoyu -Original Message- From: Adrian Farrel

Re: [OPSAWG] Erik Kline's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf-12: (with COMMENT)

2021-12-01 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Erik, Thank you very much for the review! Please find my inline response. Best regards, Haoyu -Original Message- From: Erik Kline via Datatracker Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2021 2:08 PM To: The IESG Cc: draft-ietf-opsawg-...@ietf.org; opsawg-cha...@ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.org;

Re: [OPSAWG] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2021-12-01 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Roman, Thank you very much for the review and comments! Please find inline my response and proposed modifications. The modifications will be reflected in the version -12. Best regards, Haoyu -Original Message- From: Roman Danyliw via Datatracker Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2021

Re: [OPSAWG] Warren Kumari's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf-11: (with COMMENT)

2021-12-01 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Warren, Thank you very much for the review and suggestions. The updates will be reflected in the next revision. Best regards, Haoyu -Original Message- From: Warren Kumari via Datatracker Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2021 8:48 AM To: The IESG Cc: draft-ietf-opsawg-...@ietf.org;

Re: [OPSAWG] Lars Eggert's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf-10: (with COMMENT)

2021-11-29 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Lars, Thank you very much for the review! All the issues listed below have been addressed and will be reflected in the newer revision. Best regards, Haoyu -Original Message- From: Lars Eggert via Datatracker Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 7:10 AM To: The IESG Cc:

Re: [OPSAWG] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf-10: (with COMMENT)

2021-11-29 Thread Haoyu Song
pC0%3Dreserved=0 I believe that Jean-Michel spotted a serious issue in the security section but I trust the Security Area Directors on this specific topic and will not raise a block DISCUSS on this point especially as Haoyu Song has taken some actions. I hope that this helps to improve the docum

Re: [OPSAWG] Intdir telechat review of draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf-10

2021-11-24 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Jean, Thank you very much for the review! Based on your suggestion, we'll move the disclaimer to the beginning of the document and provide more clarification. Best regards, Haoyu -Original Message- From: Jean-Michel Combes via Datatracker Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 3:41

Re: [OPSAWG] RtgDir Last Call review: draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf-10

2021-11-22 Thread Haoyu Song
Thank you very much Dhruv, the text you proposed has been included. Best regards, Haoyu From: Dhruv Dhody Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2021 8:22 PM To: Haoyu Song Cc: rtg-...@ietf.org; last-c...@ietf.org; draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf@ietf.org; rtgdir-cha...@ietf.org; rtgdir-...@ietf.org; opsawg

Re: [OPSAWG] RtgDir Last Call review: draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf-10

2021-11-19 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Dhruv, Thank you very much for the review! Please see inline for our response and proposed modifications. We'll update the document once we hear back from you. Thanks! Best regards, Haoyu From: Dhruv Dhody Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 5:25 AM To: rtg-...@ietf.org; last-c...@ietf.org;

Re: [OPSAWG] Martin Duke's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf-10: (with COMMENT)

2021-11-19 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Martin, Thank you very much for the review. In revision -11, we will add the reference to IOAM DEX and update the status of multipoint-alt-mark to RFC8889. Best regards, Haoyu -Original Message- From: Martin Duke via Datatracker Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 9:17 PM To: The

Re: [OPSAWG] Tsvart last call review of draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf-09

2021-11-01 Thread Haoyu Song
Got it. We will make it explicit that what's included in the table are by no means exhaustive rather than some examples. Thanks! Haoyu -Original Message- From: Scharf, Michael Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 4:21 PM To: Haoyu Song ; tsv-...@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf

Re: [OPSAWG] Tsvart last call review of draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf-09

2021-11-01 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Michael, Thank you very much for the review! According to your suggestion, we explicitly list the congestion avoidance as a requirement at each plane and add RFC8085 as BCP reference. We also take your suggestions on the precise terms used in the table. I have just one question: While

Re: [OPSAWG] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf-09

2021-10-25 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Gyan, Thank you very much for your review and feedback! I have added reference to STAMP and RESTCONF as you suggested. I'm a little confused by the difference between OAM-based ping and non OAM-based ping. Could you please elaborate on this? Please also note that we don't intend to provide

Re: [OPSAWG] AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf-07 [2]

2021-10-13 Thread Haoyu Song
: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 2:08 PM To: Haoyu Song ; draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf@ietf.org Cc: opsawg@ietf.org; 'opsawg-chairs' Subject: RE: AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf-07 [2] Hi Haoyu, Thanks for applying the markups. I've given -08 another read through, and I think that there are still some

Re: [OPSAWG] AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf-07 [2]

2021-10-07 Thread Haoyu Song
- A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf-08.txt has been successfully submitted by Haoyu Song and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf Revision: 08 Title: Network Telemetry Framework Document date: 2021-10-07

Re: [OPSAWG] AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf-07 [2]

2021-10-06 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Rob, Thank you very much for the review! We'll update the draft as you suggested. Best regards, Haoyu -Original Message- From: Rob Wilton (rwilton) Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 3:55 AM To: draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf@ietf.org Cc: opsawg@ietf.org Subject: RE: AD review of

Re: [OPSAWG] Review of draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf-06

2021-02-19 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Alex, The 07 version of the draft has been submitted, which addresses all of your comments in your last review. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf/ Thanks again for your help on improving the work! Best regards, Haoyu From: Alexander Clemm Sent: Wednesday, February 17,

Re: [OPSAWG] Review of draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf-06

2021-02-18 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Alex, Thank you very much for your review and your help on progressing it! We’ll revise the draft and submit a new version. Best regards, Haoyu From: Alexander Clemm Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 6:31 PM To: draft-ietf-opsawg-...@ietf.org Cc: opsawg-cha...@ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.org

Re: [OPSAWG] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf [CORRECT]

2020-10-09 Thread Haoyu Song
Qin, Thanks for the suggestion! We have updated the text. Haoyu From: Qin Wu Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 7:00 PM To: Tianran Zhou ; opsawg Cc: draft-ietf-opsawg-...@ietf.org Subject: RE: [OPSAWG] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf [CORRECT] Support for publication. A quick comment,

Re: [OPSAWG] WGLC: Comments on draft-opsawg-ntf

2020-10-07 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Greg, Thank you very much for the review and comments! We agree that network telemetry doesn’t contradict with OAM, and in fact, OAM is an important part of network telemetry. We will take your insight and reword the corresponding paragraphs for clarification. Please see inline for more

Re: [OPSAWG] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf [CORRECT]

2020-09-28 Thread Haoyu Song
I'm not aware of any IPR for this draft. Haoyu From: opsawg-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:opsawg-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tianran Zhou Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 2:43 PM To: opsawg mailto:opsawg@ietf.org>> Cc:

Re: [OPSAWG] WGLC for draft-opsawg-ntf

2020-09-24 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Juergen, Thank you for pointing out it. Our understanding is that all versions of SNMP share the same design spirit while V3 provides enhance security. We'll add a reference to V3 when mentioning SNMP. Best regards, Haoyu -Original Message- From: Juergen Schoenwaelder Sent:

Re: [OPSAWG] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf [CORRECT]

2020-09-24 Thread Haoyu Song
I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this document. Haoyu From: Tianran Zhou Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 11:43 PM To: opsawg Cc: draft-ietf-opsawg-...@ietf.org Subject: IPR Poll for draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf [CORRECT] Sorry for attaching a wrong link to the draft. Please see as

Re: [OPSAWG] Review comments (Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf-03.txt)

2020-09-21 Thread Haoyu Song
swamping of receivers (for streaming data).   [HS] The cases are added in the first paragraph. --- Alex On 4/13/2020 11:59 AM, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is

[OPSAWG] IFIT draft updated

2020-04-14 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi OPSAWG and WG chairs, Based on the feedback from the WG virtual meeting, we have updated the IFIT draft to -12 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework/ The main changes are: 1. We change "smart" to "flexible" in the framework component names 2. We provide a

[OPSAWG] updated ifit framework draft

2020-03-20 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi WG, According to the comments and suggestions from Frank, Alan, Warren, and many others, we have updated the draft to v11. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework/ The major updates are listed as follows. 1. We move the "encapsulation and tunneling" to the

Re: [OPSAWG] extend the call//RE: WG adoption call for draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework-09

2020-01-06 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Alan, Thanks for the response. Please see inline. Haoyu -Original Message- From: Alan DeKok Sent: Monday, January 06, 2020 5:44 PM To: Haoyu Song Cc: Warren Kumari ; Tianran Zhou ; opsawg@ietf.org; opsawg-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] extend the call//RE: WG adoption

Re: [OPSAWG] extend the call//RE: WG adoption call for draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework-09

2020-01-06 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Warren, Thanks for the review and comments. Please see my inline response. Haoyu -Original Message- From: OPSAWG On Behalf Of Warren Kumari Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 12:04 PM To: Tianran Zhou Cc: opsawg@ietf.org; opsawg-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] extend the

Re: [OPSAWG] extend the call//RE: WG adoption call for draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework-09

2019-12-30 Thread Haoyu Song
OPSAWG, Based on the feedbacks from Frank, Al, Adrian, Alex, and others, I have updated the draft with modifications and new text/figures. The major modifications are summarized as follows. Please let me know if these addressed your concerns. 1. Add a Scope subsection to clarify the

Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework-09

2019-12-26 Thread Haoyu Song
cember 21, 2019 5:47 PM > To: 'Frank Brockners (fbrockne)' ; 'Haoyu Song' > ; 'opsawg' ; 'draft-song- > opsawg-ifit-framework.authors' framework.auth...@ietf.org> > Cc: 'opsawg-chairs' > Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsawg-ifit- > framework-09 >

Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework-09

2019-12-20 Thread Haoyu Song
repared outside of the Internet community and are not incorporated into the Internet Standards Process by any of the provisions of section 10 may be published as Informational RFCs, with the permission of the owner and the concurrence of the RFC Editor. " -Original Message----- From: Haoyu Song Se

Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework-09

2019-12-20 Thread Haoyu Song
Frank, This status of this document is "informational", not "standard". Please show me what's and what's not appropriate for an informational document. Haoyu -Original Message- From: Frank Brockners (fbrockne) Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 11:10 PM To:

Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework-09

2019-12-19 Thread Haoyu Song
feedbacks are so far very positive and they all support the adoption of this document. I think that says something. Best regards, Haoyu -Original Message- From: Frank Brockners (fbrockne) Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 6:23 AM To: Haoyu Song ; opsawg ; draft-song-o

Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework-09

2019-12-18 Thread Haoyu Song
Again, I need to point out the fact that I have listed all the questions raised during the meeting (including Frank's and Joe's) and I asked if I missed anything or misunderstood anything in an email to the list. But I didn't got any feedback from the queationers, so I believed I had correctly

Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework-09

2019-12-17 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Benoit, Did you read my summary email? In it I summarized all the questions raised during the meeting and I asked if there was anything missed and promised to address or clarify them in draft revisions. I have updated the draft two times since then and I believe I have addressed all the

Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework-09

2019-12-16 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Adrian, Thank you for your support! Your suggestions for improvement are noted and will be reflected in the next revision. Best, Haoyu From: Adrian Farrel Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 6:33 AM To: 'Tianran Zhou' ; opsawg@ietf.org; draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework.auth...@ietf.org Cc:

Re: [OPSAWG] Comments on draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework-09

2019-12-10 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Alex, Thank you very much for your support and detailed review. We'll consider your suggestions in the next revision. They'll definitely help improve the quality of the draft. Best regards, Haoyu -Original Message- From: Alexander L Clemm Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 9:42 AM

Re: [OPSAWG] open issue discussion for the IFIT draft

2019-12-03 Thread Haoyu Song
regards, Haoyu From: Haoyu Song Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 6:32 PM To: opsawg-cha...@ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.org Subject: open issue discussion for the IFIT draft Hi OPSAWG chairs and participants, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework/ In today's meeting I saw

Re: [OPSAWG] Substitutes for the term "closed-loop telemetry"

2019-12-02 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Diego, Thanks for the suggestion! I have summarized the feedback in our open issue list. I’ll make modifications in our next revision. Best regards, Haoyu From: OPSAWG On Behalf Of Diego R. Lopez Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2019 4:54 PM To: opsawg@ietf.org Subject: [OPSAWG] Substitutes for

[OPSAWG] open issue discussion for the IFIT draft

2019-11-20 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi OPSAWG chairs and participants, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework/ In today's meeting I saw predominant interest and support to this draft, especially from operators. At the end of the presentation, Joe said there are still some open issues needed to be

[OPSAWG] Fwd: Call for Adoption "draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework"

2019-11-18 Thread Haoyu Song
Sorry, forgot to CC the WG. 发件人: Haoyu Song 发送时间: 2019年11月18日星期一 下午3:05 收件人: Frank Brockners (fbrockne) 主题: Re: Call for Adoption "draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework" Hi Frank, We have updated the draft which clarified our scope and defined the terms u

[OPSAWG] presentation slot request RE: Call for Adoption "draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework"

2019-11-04 Thread Haoyu Song
in carrier networks and point out the possible solution directions. Thanks for the consideration. Best regards, Haoyu From: Joe Clarke (jclarke) Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 3:21 PM To: Haoyu Song Cc: opsawg-cha...@ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.org Subject: Re: Call for Adoption "draft-song-opsawg

Re: [OPSAWG] Call for Adoption "draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework"

2019-10-25 Thread Haoyu Song
feedbacks at this level of details which will help us substantially. Thanks for pointing out some terms that we haven’t clearly defined. We’ll fix that in the next revision. Best, Haoyu From: Frank Brockners (fbrockne) Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 9:42 AM To: Haoyu Song ; Joe Clarke (jclarke

Re: [OPSAWG] Call for Adoption "draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework"

2019-10-25 Thread Haoyu Song
, Haoyu From: Frank Brockners (fbrockne) Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 7:03 AM To: qinfengwei ; Haoyu Song ; Joe Clarke (jclarke) Cc: opsawg@ietf.org; opsawg-cha...@ietf.org Subject: RE: [OPSAWG] Call for Adoption "draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework" Hi Fengwei Qin, th

Re: [OPSAWG] Call for Adoption "draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework"

2019-10-23 Thread Haoyu Song
, Haoyu From: Joe Clarke (jclarke) Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 3:48 PM To: Haoyu Song Cc: opsawg-cha...@ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.org Subject: Re: Call for Adoption "draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework" The comments below are from me as an individual contributor. I have read the lates

[OPSAWG] Call for Adoption "draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework"

2019-10-21 Thread Haoyu Song
Dear OPSAWG chairs, The following draft has been extensively discussed and gone through six revisions. Network operators confirmed it is useful. We believe the draft is mature enough to be adopted by the WG therefore we request the chairs to initiate the adoption call for this draft. Thank you

Re: [OPSAWG] Comments for draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework-05.txt

2019-10-21 Thread Haoyu Song
Behalf Of internet-dra...@ietf.org Sent: 26 September 2019 18:29 To: i-d-annou...@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework-05.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : In-situ Flow In

Re: [OPSAWG] Comments for draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework-05.txt

2019-10-08 Thread Haoyu Song
mework-05.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : In-situ Flow Information Telemetry Framework Authors : Haoyu Song Zhenbin Li Tianran Zhou

Re: [OPSAWG] Review of draft-ietf-opsawg-ntf

2019-09-27 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Adrian, Thanks for the detailed review. I'll update the draft accordingly. Meanwhile I'd like to also request all the other authors and WG members to help review and improve this document, so we can have a new version before next IETF meeting. Haoyu -Original Message- From: Adrian

Re: [OPSAWG] iFIT framework draft

2019-09-26 Thread Haoyu Song
Yes, exactly. The closed loop for telemetry is interactive and dynamic. Under such a framework, we are expecting many interesting applications that solve various network monitoring and measurement problems. Haoyu From: qinfengwei Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 6:25 PM To: Haoyu Song

Re: [OPSAWG] iFIT framework draft

2019-09-20 Thread Haoyu Song
of failures and how data-path telemetry can help to detect. If you and anybody else have such information, I would like to hear and include the discussion in the draft. Thanks! Haoyu From: qinfengwei Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 7:09 AM To: Haoyu Song ; opsawg@ietf.org; draft-song-opsawg

Re: [OPSAWG] Comments to draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework-04

2019-09-18 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Huanan, I’ve made proposed changes to address each of your comments (see below). Please take a look and let me know what you think. Thanks! Haoyu From: Haoyu Song Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 10:49 AM To: chenhu...@chinatelecom.cn; opsawg Cc: draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework Subject

Re: [OPSAWG] iFIT framework draft

2019-09-18 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Giuseppe, Thank you very much for your contribution! I'll merge it into our next revision of the draft. Indeed, I hope the framework can inspire more applications. Best, Haoyu From: Giuseppe Fioccola Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:57 AM To: Haoyu Song ; opsawg@ietf.org; draft-song

Re: [OPSAWG] Comments to draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework-04

2019-09-16 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi Huanan, Thanks for the suggestion! I’ll make corresponding enhancements in the next revision. See more comments inline. Best regards, Haoyu From: OPSAWG On Behalf Of chenhu...@chinatelecom.cn Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 7:22 PM To: opsawg Cc: draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework

Re: [OPSAWG] iFIT framework draft

2019-09-12 Thread Haoyu Song
to include it in the draft. That way, you can fully construe your thought. Otherwise, I'll add some text by myself later. What do you think? Best, Haoyu From: Giuseppe Fioccola Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 7:38 AM To: Haoyu Song ; opsawg@ietf.org; draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framew...@ietf.org

Re: [OPSAWG] IOAM export through IPFIX

2019-09-03 Thread Haoyu Song
I support to discuss this work in OPSAWG. I also think the scope of the work may need to be extended. It only covers the raw export format which is not flexible enough and put all the data parsing complexity on the data collector. As we suggested in the iFIT framework, a flexible solution

[OPSAWG] iFIT framework draft

2019-07-17 Thread Haoyu Song
Hi all, We recently uploaded a newer version of the iFIT framework draft. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework/ The purposes of the drafts are: 1. Clarify the terms and underlying techniques for data plane on-path telemetry 2. Present a framework that

Re: [OPSAWG] Review of draft-song-opsawg-ntf-03

2019-04-29 Thread Haoyu song
Hi Joe, I'm working on revising the draft. Below are some thoughts on the issues you raised about Section 2: 1) I'll position AI a more forward looking technique that can take advantage of network telemetry. 2) NMRG is working on provide a formal definition of "intent" so I think we can

Re: [OPSAWG] Review of draft-song-opsawg-ntf-03

2019-04-09 Thread Haoyu song
Hi Joe, Thank you very much for the review! I'll update the draft according to your comments. Best regards, Haoyu -Original Message- From: OPSAWG [mailto:opsawg-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Joe Clarke Sent: Monday, April 08, 2019 7:31 AM To: opsawg@ietf.org Subject: [OPSAWG] Review

Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption poll for draft-song-opsawg-ntf

2019-03-21 Thread Haoyu song
Hi Qin, Thanks for the comments. We'll provide more description about this issue and make reference to the existing work. Your second observation is also right. There are different meanings when talking about correlation. I think "data correlation" can serve as a high level term to cover both

Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption poll for draft-song-opsawg-ntf

2019-03-18 Thread Haoyu song
, Haoyu -Original Message- From: Daniel King [mailto:d...@danielking.net] On Behalf Of dan...@olddog.co.uk Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 11:54 AM To: opsawg@ietf.org; Haoyu song Cc: opsawg-cha...@ietf.org Subject: RE: [OPSAWG] WG adoption poll for draft-song-opsawg-ntf Hi All, Yes, I fully

Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption poll for draft-song-opsawg-ntf

2019-03-18 Thread Haoyu song
Hi Thomas, Thank you very much for your support! I'm glad to see that the vision of the draft is well aligned with yours. You pointed out a very important issue (metrics correlation) that definitely needs to be addressed by IETF. We'll articulate this based on your comments. Schema conversion

Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption poll for draft-song-opsawg-ntf

2019-03-13 Thread Haoyu song
Hi Juergen, Thank you very much for your very detailed comments. Your feedback shows exactly we need to engage with the entire community to improve this document. Your two questions are very good. Here's my high level response first: a) Does the IETF need a network telemetry framework? I

Re: [OPSAWG] IPR poll on draft-song-opsawg-ntf-03

2019-03-11 Thread Haoyu song
I'm not aware of any IPR for this draft. Thanks! Best regards, Haoyu -Original Message- From: OPSAWG [mailto:opsawg-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tianran Zhou Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 7:55 PM To: opsawg@ietf.org Cc: draft-song-opsawg-...@ietf.org Subject: [OPSAWG] IPR poll on

[OPSAWG] Network Telemetry Framework - new updates and request for adoption

2019-03-07 Thread Haoyu song
Dear OPSAWG members, We have update the Network Telemetry Framework draft significantly in the latest revision to address the issues and concerns raised in previous meetings and supplement some new material. The major updates are: 1. To address the concern that some techniques might go

[OPSAWG] presentation on ifit framework draft

2018-10-30 Thread Haoyu song
Dear all, As Joe suggested, I would like to request you to take a look at the following draft before the meeting so we can have some good discussion during the meeting. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework/ Basically we want to address the challenges of data plane

Re: [OPSAWG] Request for presentation slots in IETF103

2018-10-22 Thread Haoyu song
we can provide something useful to IETF, so we are open to hear any comments and opinions. Thanks! Haoyu -Original Message- From: Joe Clarke [mailto:jcla...@cisco.com] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 2:20 PM To: Haoyu song ; opsawg-cha...@ietf.org Cc: opsawg@ietf.org Subject: Re: Request

[OPSAWG] Request for presentation slots in IETF103

2018-10-22 Thread Haoyu song
Dear OPSAWG chairs, I'm writing to request two presentation slots to cover the following two drafts: 1. Newly submitted: In-situ Flow Information Telemetry Framework https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework/ Abstract: In-situ Flow Information Telemetry (iFIT) is

[OPSAWG] New version of Network Telemetry Framework

2018-10-22 Thread Haoyu song
Dear all, We have uploaded a new version of the Network Telemetry Framework draft which reflects the modifications based on comments and suggestions from Adrian Farrel, Daniel King, Randy Presuhn, Uri Blumenthal and others. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-song-opsawg-ntf/ We add new

Re: [OPSAWG] Thoughts on draft-song-opsawg-ntf

2018-10-18 Thread Haoyu song
I don't think we are trying anything "re-inventing the wheel". First, we didn't invent anything in this draft. Rather, we are providing an overview and summary of existing stuff. Second, even SNMP notification can do data push, it is still insufficient. Google has deprecated SNMP for a reason.

Re: [OPSAWG] Thoughts on draft-song-opsawg-ntf

2018-10-17 Thread Haoyu song
Hi Adrian, Thank you very much for the comments. I'll try to address all your comments in the new revisions. Given the time and bandwidth, I may leave some parts (e.g., security concern) to future revisions. Yes, gRPC is a recursive acronym and "g" doesn't mean google although we all know

Re: [OPSAWG] EARLY CALL: Agenda topics for IETF 103

2018-10-17 Thread Haoyu song
Hi Joe, I'd like to apply a presentation slot for the draft song-opsawg-ntf-01. In the talk, I'll presents the updates of the draft and address the issues raised during the email discussion. Thanks! Best, Haoyu -Original Message- From: OPSAWG [mailto:opsawg-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf

Re: [OPSAWG] Thoughts on draft-song-opsawg-ntf

2018-10-17 Thread Haoyu song
Hi Uri, Thanks for the comments. I'd like to clarify there's no black and white separation between conventional OAM and telemetry. Conventional OAM is also indispensable in many cases and some tools is also evolving to bear more characteristics of a typical telemetry system. I'll make the

Re: [OPSAWG] [GROW] [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-09 Thread Haoyu song
Hi Randy, Thank you for comments on draft-song-ntf. I'm not sure I understand your second point. Could you please clarify it? Please note we didn't enforce any specific model on the telemetry yet. This doc only concerns the aspect on how to acquire data from networks. It does support the

[OPSAWG] request a presentation slot

2018-07-03 Thread Haoyu song
Dear OPSAWG chairs, I'm writing to request a slot to present the updates of the following document. Thank you very much! https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-song-ntf-02 Best regards, Haoyu ___ OPSAWG mailing list OPSAWG@ietf.org

[OPSAWG] FW: New Version Notification for draft-song-ntf-02.txt

2018-07-02 Thread Haoyu song
; Giuseppe Fioccola ; Lizhenbin ; Haoyu song ; Laurent Ciavaglia ; Tianran Zhou ; Aijun Wang ; Pedro Martinez-Julia Subject: New Version Notification for draft-song-ntf-02.txt A new version of I-D, draft-song-ntf-02.txt has been successfully submitted by Haoyu Song and posted to the IETF

Re: [OPSAWG] network telemetry framework

2018-04-02 Thread Haoyu song
-Original Message- From: Joe Clarke [mailto:jcla...@cisco.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 11:52 AM To: Haoyu song <haoyu.s...@huawei.com>; opsawg <opsawg@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] network telemetry framework On 3/21/18 04:01, Haoyu song wrote: > Dear all, >

[OPSAWG] Asking for a slot

2018-03-02 Thread Haoyu song
Dear OPSAWG Chairs, I’m writing to ask for a presentation slot for the draft of “Toward a Network Telemetry Framework” (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-song-ntf/) Thank you very much for the consideration! Best regards, Haoyu Song ___ OPSAWG

[OPSAWG] new draft on dynamic network probes for interactive query

2017-06-27 Thread Haoyu song
Dear all, We have submitted a draft describing the use case and requirements for dynamic network probes. Please kindly provide any comments and suggestions to help us improve the work. Thank you very much! https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-song-opsawg-dnp4iq/ Abstract: This document