Re: Plain Old Database

2003-02-14 Thread Dale
Message as we all know Oracle is unbreakable, so security isn't an issue. All of these security alerts (see below) that just hit my mailbox must be just mere formalities :-) - Dale http://www.DataBee.com EMAIL from Oracle below This e-mail is a critical technical

Re: Deep OPS tuning info

2003-02-14 Thread Jonathan Lewis
Just as a possible quick tip: Have you disabled DML_LOCKs on the most commonly accessed tables ? Is it possible to do so on at least some of them ? Under OPS, some activity which is usually local latching activity turns into global lock acquisition. If you have excessive parsing, with

AW: Plain Old Database

2003-02-14 Thread Stefan Jahnke
Title: Message Hi Steve mod_plsql is pretty much a module that allows you to setup communication between Oracle db and Apache process in a cgi-like way. I have to admin that I don't know exactly, if the pl/sql engine runs embedded within apache like mod_perl for instance. But I don't think

RE: Teradata baned from IOUG???

2003-02-14 Thread Robson, Peter
snip Teradata would not be the first product banned. Way back in olden-times the maker of SQR were banned, but I cannot remember why. snip Well, I can answer that. SQR began life as a report writer with procedural capabilities. It arrived before PL/SQL, and was the first 4GL which provided

RE: Teradata baned from IOUG???

2003-02-14 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I believe SQR was bought by Sybase so Oracle didn't want it at the conference. I remember IOUW in Miami (in '91 I think) SQR had an RV outside the conference hotel because they were not on the exhibit floor --- Robson, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Teradata would not be

Re: ODBC through server side sql

2003-02-14 Thread Dilip
Absolutely true !!! That's why I want to keep most of the things in the database and minimum at users end. It will be easy for us to maintain and control. Microsoft tools must be kept away from oracle otherwise our life will be hell. Let's hope somebody will write a book. (Before that let's

Q: about x$kglob

2003-02-14 Thread v . schoen
Title: Q: about x$kglob Hi List, I've created a view create view sys.x_$kglob as select * from sys.x$kglob; This view shows the actual running sql, include procs, functions... Q: How can I find out which session calls the SQL? TIA Volker Schoen E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ora-00600 fun

2003-02-14 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
After my nightly cold backup and during the database startup I got this error; ksedmp: internal or fatal error ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [3051], [82], [73], [], [], [], [], [] ORA-04030: out of process memory when trying to allocate 8389132 bytes (pga heap,THREAD RECOVERY) The

RE: Plain Old Database

2003-02-14 Thread Jay Hostetter
Thanks for all the replies. The reason I asked is because dbca calls some of these items Standard Database Features. Steve - I think that the mod plsql is the module that let's you generate html using PL/SQL (htp and htf pl/sql packages). Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/13/03 06:19PM Thanks

RE: {SPAM?} RE: Teradata baned from IOUG???

2003-02-14 Thread Robson, Peter
Hmmm - I wonder if we are talking about the same company? The SQR product I know of came out of a US company called MITI (Long Beach, CA), and was marketed in UK by SPS. It was originally a report writer for Oracle, but developed the programming side to such an extent that it became (like PL/SQL)

RE: SQL and TEMP segments

2003-02-14 Thread Mark Leith
select distinct b.sid, b.serial#, substr(b.username, 1, 8) USERNAME, b.process, substr(c.segment_name, 1, 8) SEGMENT_NAME, bytes BYTES, substr(b.osuser, 1, 7) OS_USER, substr(b.machine, 1, 6) M_NAME, substr(b.program, 1, 12) PROGRAM from

RE: No redo or archived log files

2003-02-14 Thread Rick_Cale
Yes it is my understanding he does not have any online redo or archive logs current or backups. He just has current datafiles where the database will not start because of no online redo so I can assume those have been lost,corrupt,etc. Thanks Rick

SQL and TEMP segments

2003-02-14 Thread Zabair Ahmed
Quick question, I want to find out what sql is currently using my temporary segments. Is their a simple solution. Am getting the ORA-1652 for my locally managed temporary tablespace and I would like to find out what sql is causing this. My temp tablespace is currently 1.2GB. Oracle 8.1.7.3 on HPUX

WOO HOO, FIXED IT - WAS - RE: Ora-00600 fun

2003-02-14 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
Someone suggested a reboot so I figured I would start by just shutting down the Oracle database service. I restarted the service and the database is up and running. You gotta love the windoze OS. When in doubt reboot the service or the server. Dave -Original Message- Sent: Friday,

Re: Ora-00600 fun

2003-02-14 Thread Jay Hostetter
OS and version? Possibilities from Metalink: Increase the SHMMAX kernel parameter to 2139095040 (2Gb-8Mb). See note 70240.1 Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/14/03 06:33AM After my nightly cold backup and during the database startup I got this error; ksedmp: internal or fatal error ORA-00600:

Re: Histograms on VARCHAR2 columns ?

2003-02-14 Thread Jonathan Lewis
The metalink note is out of date - newer versions of Oracle use the first 31 characters to build histograms. Of course, if you have a column of URLs for Google search results which all start with: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=engroup=comp.databases.oracle.serv er then you may have to

RE: Ora-00600 fun

2003-02-14 Thread John Clarke
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RE: {SPAM?} RE: Teradata baned from IOUG???

2003-02-14 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I think so... Matt Reagan used to run the SQR roundtable discussions at IOUG back when SQR was allowed on-site Don't know who owns it now, I could try to ask Matt -- he'd have all the background and history on it Rachel --- Robson, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm - I wonder if we are

RE: Ora-00600 fun

2003-02-14 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
8.1.7 on NT. Got it fixed though. Thanks, dave -Original Message- Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:21 AM To: Farnsworth, Dave; [EMAIL PROTECTED] OS and version? Possibilities from Metalink: Increase the SHMMAX kernel parameter to 2139095040 (2Gb-8Mb). See note 70240.1 Jay

RE: {SPAM?} RE: Teradata baned from IOUG???

2003-02-14 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
same product. and before MITI, it was owned by Sql Solutions. I still think it was one of the coolest - and easiest - batch updating/reporting products on the market. I bought it and we converted about 750,000 lines of Cobol code to Oracle forms and SQR back in the late 80's early 90's. And

RE: AT command ??

2003-02-14 Thread O'Neill, Sean
From: Janet Linsy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:59:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: AT command ?? Hi all, Can anyone give me some examples of AT command in windows? Thank you! Janet C:AT 00:00 /every:T,W,TH,F,S cmd /c F:\Oradba\b73\cold_backup.cmd Schedules command file to run at

RE: Ora-00600 fun

2003-02-14 Thread John Weatherman
Dave, When I've seen this, it's usually because I have added a new database on the machine and the various SHM kennel settings are no longer appropriate for all the instances. Have you added a new instance since the last time you restarted this instance? How long has the machine been up, it

RE: {SPAM?} RE: Teradata baned from IOUG???

2003-02-14 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: {SPAM?} RE: Teradata baned from IOUG??? SQR is now incorporated in Brio product range ... ask me, those (SQR coding) are some painful memories ... Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com

Re: WOO HOO, FIXED IT - WAS - RE: Ora-00600 fun

2003-02-14 Thread Igor Neyman
Looks like memory leak, and fixing it by restarting Oracle service proves it. Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 7:23 AM Someone suggested a reboot so I figured I

RE: {SPAM?} RE: Teradata baned from IOUG???

2003-02-14 Thread Stephen Murphy
SQR, in its latest form, is currently know as BRIO Reports from Brio Software. Brio acquired the product line about 2 years ago. SQR is heavily used in PeopleSoft shops and comes bundled in with the PeopleSoft products. --

RE: No redo or archived log files

2003-02-14 Thread Rachel Carmichael
he can also try to force the database open by rebuilding the controlfile and doing a resetlogs. Since he's already lost the online logs, resetlogs won't cause him to lose anything anyway. last time this happened to me, it took about 25 hours straight, lots of money and Data UnLoader from Field

RE: Plain Old Database

2003-02-14 Thread Nelson, Allan
Title: Message modperl is an apache modulle that has been coded by Oracle which allows for the execution of SQL and PL/SQL from the apache server. Allan -Original Message-From: Orr, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 5:20 PMTo: Multiple

RE: No redo or archived log files

2003-02-14 Thread Nelson, Allan
Well if all he really has is *current* on line files then he's dead. He needs some copy of the database that has been shutdown cleanly and so has all comitted data on disk. His current online copy presumably won't start because he can't meet that condition. With the database knowing that the

RE: Plain Old Database

2003-02-14 Thread Nelson, Allan
My box too. Overblown marketing always makes the opportuity for cynical humour irresistable. :-) -Original Message- Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Message as we all know Oracle is unbreakable, so security isn't an issue. All of these

Re: 10046 trace - weird library misses

2003-02-14 Thread Jared Still
Well, I wasn't actually correcting you. Just thought you knew something about dynamic SQL that I wanted to see. :) Jared On Thursday 13 February 2003 10:29, Jamadagni, Rajendra wrote: hmmm... I shouldn't work on two emails at the same time anymore... Can't work in parallel. The

Lock table and disallow select

2003-02-14 Thread John Dunn
Query from user. can the following be done in PL/SQL? I need to be able to lock a table in such a way that not only can no other session alter any records in the table, but they cannot read the table at all (i.e. do SELECTs on it) until I'm done with it. Any SELECT statements would pause

Re: {SPAM?} RE: Teradata baned from IOUG???

2003-02-14 Thread Jared Still
We looked at SQR in 94. We didn't have need of controlling fonts and such, which I guess SQR is good at. The SQR rep could come up with no compelling reason to use SQR rather than Perl, so simple ( as in not much procedural processing needed ) reports were done in Sqlplus. Anything complex

Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Les Ayudo
Hello, I'm thinking of going to school to get Oracle certified. There are 2 schools in my area that are offering Oracle certs but one offers Oracle 8i courses w/ an upgrade to 9i, while the other offers all 9i courses. If i go to the schools who offers 9i courses, would I miss out on

URL for Oracle 9i entry level email lists

2003-02-14 Thread Les Ayudo
I want to subscribe to an entry level Oracle mailing list. Do any of you know any good ones? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Les Ayudo INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California

RE: Lock table and disallow select

2003-02-14 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Lock table and disallow select Aren't we looking for trouble with this scenario? What if you hold lock for more than few seconds/minutes/hours? I'd ask following questions ... 1. Why? 2. Why? AFAIK one way to do this is to break the synonym pointing to the database, but any

RE: {SPAM?} RE: Teradata baned from IOUG???

2003-02-14 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: {SPAM?} RE: Teradata baned from IOUG??? Well, I see one reason ... (I am no expert in Oracle reports), but it seems more maintainable to write in SQR than in reports (so they claim here). Plus SQR can act asa glorified data loader when a bunch of processing needs to be done on

RE: Ora-00600 fun

2003-02-14 Thread Lyndon Tiu
Quoting Farnsworth, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 8.1.7 on NT. Got it fixed though. Thanks, dave Dave, Instead of just telling us it's fixed. Perhaps it would be better if you actually told us how it got fixed, please. Thank you. -- Lyndon Tiu -Original Message- Sent:

Re: Lock table and disallow select

2003-02-14 Thread Chaim . Katz
You could probably fake this by renaming the table or playing with synonyms, or by revoking privileges, but I don't know of a pl/sql command or procedure that can prevent a user from performing SELECT against a table. Even then, I don't think the SELECT statement will ever pause until the lock

RE: URL for Oracle 9i entry level email lists

2003-02-14 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: URL for Oracle 9i entry level email lists This list deals with ALL oracle related issues ... so why you want another one? Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed

Re: Parallel Rollbacks

2003-02-14 Thread Robert Pegram
Look at the parameter fast_start_parallel_rollback Also check out metalink Note:144332.1 Parallel query servers get 100% cpu Rob Pegram Oracle Certified DBA - 8i, 9i --- Steve Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope somebody can provide me with more information on parallel rollbacks. I've

Re: 2k and 8k block size

2003-02-14 Thread Charlie_Mengler
There was a presentation at the recent HOTSOS conference which showed a performance gain by placing indexes in tablespaces with a LARGE blocksize. HTH YMMV HAND!

Optimizer help, get query to run as good as with RULE hint

2003-02-14 Thread Glenn Travis
I have a problem query which will not complete. This query is part of a report run within Oracle Applications. Our versions are: Oracle Server 8.1.7.4, Apps 11.5.3, HP-UX 11.11 Listed below is the query and the explain plan. I ran full statistics on all the tables immediately before

RE: Listener Hanging 64 Bit Solaris 8 Oracle 9.2

2003-02-14 Thread David Wagoner
We had this problem recently- running 8.1.7 (64-bit) and 9.0.1.3 (32-bit) on Sun Solaris 2.8. Both databases were registered in the same version 9.0.1.3.0 Listener. Oracle Support eventually told me that Listener versions below 9iR2 do not support mixed bit versions (64- and 32-bit). You would

RMAN BCV/Flashcopy Question?

2003-02-14 Thread Gene Sais
I plan on using a product from IBM called Flashcopy, similar to EMC's BCV (third mirror). Typically, I put the tablespaces in hot backup via scripting before splitting the third mirror. How can RMAN be used in a similar fashion? Can RMAN put the db in a hot backup state so the third mirror

RE: Lock table and disallow select

2003-02-14 Thread Nelson, Allan
In Oracle writers do not block readers so even locking the table won't do it. You could rename the table and do your work on it under the new name. Allan -Original Message- Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:04 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Query from user. can the

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Gene Sais
Not to depress you, but at this time, in Florida the DBA job market is dismal. The best way to move into a DBA job would be do it within your current organization, i.e. move from developer/sys admin/etc. to DBA. It would be difficult for an organization to hire a newbie DBA from the

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Scott Stefick
Les, It depends on what version of Oracle Databases you will be working with. You won't miss out on information going through the 9i Class because they will go over features from 8i as well. They are conclusive of features that have been available before 9i (as long as they are still in 9i). The

RE: RMAN BCV/Flashcopy Question?

2003-02-14 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Gene - Hopefully someone will have better ideas than these, but I'll make a couple of suggestions. RMAN can issue SQL commands to your target database, so you could try having it issue the alter tablespace command. Then after you do the backup you could register the backup with RMAN. Almost

Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread Godlewski, Melissa
List, I'm use to using a standard D=development T=test P=production. So for a database newly created on development it would be called something like D24X7. Then when it was created on Production it would be called P24X7. Or along similar lines. I'm working with an other DBA who wants

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Boyle Candi
I have many opinions on certifications... :). First and foremost, why are you interested in studying Oracle? Is it for the money, or are you truly interested in working with it? Do you have any experience? If you aren't sure what you want to do, I suggest learning quite a bit on your own

Perl for Oracle DBA

2003-02-14 Thread Charlie_Mengler
I want to strongly recommend the book Perl for Oracle DBA authored by Andy Duncan (this list's manager) Jared Still. I've been a DBA for around 7 years have been doing Perl for longer than that. The code and examples in this book will be put to good use here; as soon as I get some time to put

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Lyndon Tiu
9i will cost you more in the long run because you have to take 4 exams at $150 each plus a $3000 course to get OCP. 8i then upgrade to 9i will cost you less but requires you to take up to 6 exams at $150 each but no more $3000 course. -- Lyndon Tiu Quoting Les Ayudo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Re: URL for Oracle 9i entry level email lists

2003-02-14 Thread Les Ayudo
Title: RE: URL for Oracle 9i entry level email lists This list seems at like it's a little too advanced for a beginner. Do you think I should just stick with it for a while to get familiar w/ some of the Oracle stuff? - Original Message - From: Jamadagni, Rajendra To:

Re: Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread Jay Hostetter
Are we talking SID or connect string? I seem to remember that there was (or is on certain OSs) a limit to the length of the SID - so I tend to keep the SIDs short and sweet. If it is the connect string - then who is it that needs to know it is an Oracle database? The user? Why? The DBA?

RE: Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread Tony Johnson
I had the same arguments with a consultant we had in at one time I compromised with him. The database files are in a directory called 'oradata' and we use a designator of D development, T for Testing, B for Beta, P for Production and S for Stress Test. -Original Message-From:

Re: Lock table and disallow select

2003-02-14 Thread Jay Hostetter
I agree with Raj - why does your user want to do this? Nobody will see the changes until a commit occurs anyway. Jay Hostetter Oracle DBA D. E. Communications Ephrata, PA USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/14/03 10:04AM Query from user. can the following be done in PL/SQL? I need to be able

Re: 2k and 8k block size

2003-02-14 Thread Rajesh . Rao
My question was specific to RAC: With a larger block size, is one not increasing the chances of pinging for the blocks? Or I dont need to worry about it with Cache fusion? A new worry for me now is that, though the block size was changed from 2K to 8K, the recommendation was to keep the SGA the

RE: URL for Oracle 9i entry level email lists

2003-02-14 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: URL for Oracle 9i entry level email lists Les, stick around ... I am no expert, but there is so much to learn ... Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is

Re: SYSOPER?

2003-02-14 Thread Michael Fontana
At 12:03 PM 11/28/2002 -0800, Tim Gorman wrote: Q: How many people use the SYSOPER privilege? ...just curious... Please respond only if the answer is affirmative -- I suspect the number of responses will be quite small... P.S. I have never worked at an place where it is used, of which I'm

RE: Optimizer help, get query to run as good as with RULE hint

2003-02-14 Thread Glenn Travis
I changed my sort_area_size to 1M (down from 5M) and the query completed in 18 seconds. We had set sort_area_size to 5M at the suggestion of Oracle or other reasons. Looks like it's time to set it back. I ran the disk_sorts query and it returned this: DISK_SORTS AVERAGE_SIZE PEAK_CONCURRENT

RE: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Les - I think the demand isn't so good right now, but the whole tech field is a little depressed. If you can tell a little more about your background, we could help more, like whether this sounds like a logical next career step for you. The demand varies a lot by the area of the country, so

RE: Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Melissa - You didn't mention which system you are on. My comments apply more to Unix. Oracle warns not to make the instance name too long. Formerly they recommended you keep it to 4 characters. Not sure how that would apply today. It does make your processes long. My #1 objective is to make

RE: Lock table and disallow select

2003-02-14 Thread STEVE OLLIG
FWIW - this locking scheme is different than some of Oracle's competition. in SQL Server Sybase writes can block reads. even on those platforms locks should be at the block or row level, but can escalate to the entire table. but reads do wait for writes to complete. at least it used to be that

RE: Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread Godlewski, Melissa
Title: RE: Database naming conventions Thanks, I Talking about the SID. I got my smile for the day, putting version etc. in would certainly add to the absurdity. -Original Message- From: Jay Hostetter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 11:59 AM To:

RE: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Chris Stephens
Title: RE: Oracle 8i or 9i ? The $3000 is true if he takes them through 'oracle' university but not if the local community college offers the classes. What I did (and it seemed to work fine) for my 8i certification is to go to the community college bookstore and just buy the 'official'

apache and mod_plsql (was RE: Plain old database)

2003-02-14 Thread Sarnowski, Chris
One ought to be able to. We haven't tried, since we've been using mod_owa www.sharemation.com/~dmcmahon/modowa.htm , for historical reasons. Since it is working well for us we haven't tried to replace it with mod_plsql. One reason we went with our own Apache build was because Oracle's version of

RE: No redo or archived log files

2003-02-14 Thread Jack van Zanen
There is always DUL if all other options have gone south. Jack -Original Message- Sent: vrijdag 14 februari 2003 15:39 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Well if all he really has is *current* on line files then he's dead. He needs some copy of the database that has been

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Les Ayudo
School A (www.idtnetwork)which is offering the Oracle 9i cert will cost me $3595 and does not include the tests. They told me they are an Oracle University and they are the only ones (besides Oracle) that can give grant Oracle 9i certs. Is this true? The classes they are offering are: 1Z0007

RE: Lock table and disallow select

2003-02-14 Thread Gogala, Mladen
That is usually done by the application. You can attempt to acquire a user lock in the share mode (ULS) before executing the select and lock it in the exclusive mode (ULX) for admin purposes. That is usually done through DBMS_LOCK package. -Original Message- From: John Dunn

RE: Fwd: Histograms on VARCHAR2 columns ?

2003-02-14 Thread Jesse, Rich
OK, I'm reading thru Wolfgang Breitling's Fallacies of the Cost Based Optimizer from the link below. Of course, I've got questions! The data presented on pages 5 and 6 just don't jive. How many systems can do a query with twice as much physical I/O in less than half the elapsed time and CPU

RE: URL for Oracle 9i entry level email lists

2003-02-14 Thread Sutton, Reed
Title: RE: URL for Oracle 9i entry level email lists I think you'll find that everyone on this list was a beginner at one time and I've had people graciously answer some questions of mine that were pretty basic (read: stupid :-). At the very least, people will point you to resources or

AT doesn't run and xcopy question ???

2003-02-14 Thread Janet Linsy
Hi all, Thank you for those sending me AT examples. I scheduled a job successfully, but it doesn't run at the scheduled time. The status shows Error. Do I need to setup something first? (Windows 2000) By the way, I try to run a backup.bat. I have a,b,c subdirectories under D:, and I'd like

RE: Perl for Oracle DBA

2003-02-14 Thread Gogala, Mladen
I concur. I've already recommended the book, this is a good opportunity to re-iterate my recommendation. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 11:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Perl for Oracle

RE: Unix research source ???

2003-02-14 Thread Richard Ji
OH yea, thanks for point that out. Forgot aobut the GNOME stuff. Guess which one I like between GNOME and KDE? (hint, hint). :) -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:43 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Quoting Richard Ji [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Very detailed

RE: Sizing databases

2003-02-14 Thread O'Neill, Sean
From: Paulo Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:04:56 - Subject: Sizing databases Hi people Need some to fresh size a new database (9iR2, or other). Any one happens to know were i can get such tool??? Please Paulo Gomes I don't believe there is a one size fit's all tool for

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Lyndon Tiu
When I quoted the prices, I quoted exam prices alone. Education costs are extra. FYI - I got my OCx without going to school. Work experience and self study were all I needed. -- Lyndon Tiu Quoting Les Ayudo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: School A (www.idtnetwork)which is offering the Oracle 9i cert will

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Les Ayudo
Title: RE: Oracle 8i or 9i ? I'm more ofa windoz SA and have been working with a little Unix here there for hte past 2yrs (RH, Mandrake, Solaris). What I really want to accomplish is to switch to Unix and Databases. My goal is to use my certifcation as a way to get my foot in the door

Re:Lock table and disallow select

2003-02-14 Thread dgoulet
John, No. Dick Goulet Reply Separator Author: John Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2/14/2003 7:04 AM Query from user. can the following be done in PL/SQL? I need to be able to lock a table in such a way that not only can no other session alter

RE: Sizing databases

2003-02-14 Thread Paulo Gomes
thanks Paulo Gomes -Original Message- Sent: sexta-feira, 14 de Fevereiro de 2003 18:05 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L From: Paulo Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:04:56 - Subject: Sizing databases Hi people Need some to fresh size a new database (9iR2,

Re: Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread Rachel Carmichael
there is no reason to call the database ora. I understand the reasoning behind and the desire for naming conventions. What happens when your shop decides to go with MySQL (as this list has been talking about)... will he want to rename the database to mysqlt24x7? will he even be allowed to

Re:Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread dgoulet
Melissa, My naming convention is to have the host name and the database instance follow it. I have been using ORACLE_SID's that are numeric for years since v6 which helps therefore the 02 database on the server brahms.vicr.com is named brahms2. Makes life easier identifying where you are.

RE: Unix research source ???

2003-02-14 Thread Stephen Lee
I thought a little about my response and it occurred to me that my point might have gotten lost in the details. The point was that the asker of the question might want to refine the question. That is, was the intent to ask about a particular OS; or was the intent to ask about a particular

Oracle alert #51 - is bug fix in 8.1.7.4.7 for win32 (W2K on Inte

2003-02-14 Thread Drake, Paul
Hi. I've been on digest mode on this list for quite awhile. When I received the alert from Oracle this morning, I set the list to NODIGEST. I'm just now receiving emails realtime. I'm sure that this subject was already covered on the list today, so I apologize in advance for posting a probably

RE: RMAN BCV/Flashcopy Question?

2003-02-14 Thread Gene Sais
Thanks Dennis for your suggestions. So it appears in my environment, I am best off sticking w/ my trusty hot backup scripts. Using RMAN for 3rd mirror splits doesn't appear to benefit me. Using RMAN to backup to a 3rd mirror would be less efficient than using EMC BCV or IBM Flashcopy, as

RE: Unix research source ???

2003-02-14 Thread Gogala, Mladen
CDE? DECWindows? -Original Message- From: Richard Ji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 12:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Unix research source ??? OH yea, thanks for point that out. Forgot aobut the GNOME stuff. Guess which

RE: Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread Nick Wagner
Title: RE: Database naming conventions how about just an 'o' od24x7 op24x7 you could then use 'u' for udb and 'm' for MySQL, and 's' for SQL Server. -Original Message- From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:44 AM To: Multiple

RE: Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread Richard Ji
Melissa, Ask him if he name all his tables TAB..., java class Java..., his pet CAT... or DOG... etc? Richard -Original Message- Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L there is no reason to call the database ora. I understand the reasoning

Re: 2k and 8k block size

2003-02-14 Thread Arup Nanda
Raj, I don't know if you read my earlier response to this issue. The other concern with a larger block size is the possibility of "buffer busy waits". You mentioned it was an OLTP app with pretty much 1 row change per statement. Increasing the block size will mean more rows per a single

RE: Sizing databases

2003-02-14 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Paulo Consider Oracle-Managed Files, a new feature of Oracle9i. This is discussed in Chapter 3 of the Database Administrator's Guide. This greatly simplifies your file sizing decisions. http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B10501_01/server.920/a96521/omf.htm# 1656 Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP,

[Q] insufficient privilege while connect / as sysdba on NT?

2003-02-14 Thread dist cash
e have ORACLE 8.1.7 on NT server and I login as user wirh administrator privilege. I tried to connect / as sysdba and got insufficient prvilege. The procedure are: 1. on DOS window 2. sqlplus /nolog 3. connect / as sysdba ORA-001031 insufficient privileges I have been recreate the password

RE: Fwd: Histograms on VARCHAR2 columns ?

2003-02-14 Thread Nelson, Allan
You can see that with a full table scan because of multi-block reads. Generally, assuming blocking reads and multiblock reads, cpu can be low as this op is not cpu intensive. With the first plan you've got read the index, 3 blocks average (head, leaf, and branch) then go get the db block. More

Re: Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread Arup Nanda
This reminds me something that happened to me about seven years ago. We had a head honcho (read DBA manager) who just had a sweet slide from DB2 word to Oracle and as one of the first things he suggested was to rename all the tables to be prefixed by USERTAB_ and all the views by USERVIEW_, and

metadata repository

2003-02-14 Thread Tracy Rahmlow
Is anybody aware of a freeware metadata repository tool that is configurable enough to capture metadata attributes that the business would value? For example, to capture information about columns such as length, aliases, valid values ... Thanks -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:

Fw: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Les Ayudo
Title: RE: Oracle 8i or 9i ? I'm more ofa windoz SA and have been working with a little Unix here there for hte past 2yrs (RH, Mandrake, Solaris). What I really want to accomplish is to switch to Unix and Databases. My goal is to use my certifcation as a way to get my foot in the

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Dennis Heisler
Les, If you have the self-discipline, another option is to sign up for Oracle University's Professional Subscription. For $350/year, you can go through as many of the offered courses as you want, and OCP preparation is one of the options. The courses are self-paced and online, and each lesson

Fw: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Les Ayudo
Title: RE: Oracle 8i or 9i ? I'm more ofa windoz SA and have been working with a little Unix here there for hte past 2yrs (RH, Mandrake, Solaris). What I really want to accomplish is to switch to Unix and Databases. My goal is to use my certifcation as a way to get my foot in the

RE: Oracle alert #51 - is bug fix in 8.1.7.4.7 for win32 (W2K on Inte

2003-02-14 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
From the readme file, the 8.1.7.4.7. patch for win32 only contains one item over and above 8.1.7.4.6: par Bug Base Bug Category Description \par - --- \par 2790160 2787968 NET INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGE ON ERROR

RE: {SPAM?} RE: Teradata baned from IOUG???

2003-02-14 Thread Jared . Still
Raj, get another cup of coffee, or whatever your favorite wakeup beverage is. :) It was 'sqlplus' and 'Perl'. No Oracle Reports. Jared Jamadagni, Rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/14/2003 07:29 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients

RE: [Q] insufficient privilege while connect / as sysdba on NT?

2003-02-14 Thread Drake, Paul
hi. after re-creating the password file, you have to cycle the instance for it to take effect. stop and restart the oracle service. (this will kill any connections) You are better off to login to the instance and perform the shutdown manually as opposed to just killing the service. Have you set

Re: [Q] insufficient privilege while connect / as sysdba on NT?

2003-02-14 Thread Igor Neyman
Having administrator privileges (actually being a member of Administrators group) is not enough. If you want to connect / as sysdba, you should be a member of ORA_DBA group. Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL

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