Backup Strategy

2003-03-14 Thread JayK
Dear All, Iam entitled the responsibility to come out with a plan for Backup (using RMAN) for our forthcoming data centre operations. Could someone help me on this? I would also like to know the steps for Recovery in the case of a Redo Log member failure, using RMAN and the traditional Recovery

2 servers 2 DB with SAN, here's my config

2003-03-14 Thread Rahul
list, once our client decides to buy SAN, here's what i'm going to propose for high availbility we have 2 servers HP-UX and two databases, storage is internal, once SAN is in place, i propose to put both the DB's on the same server (one of the DB isnot busy,less than 10 concurrent users)

utl_file_dir and 9i

2003-03-14 Thread John Dunn
In 8i we set utl_file_dir = * because otherwise we have to specify lots of individual directories. It was not possible to just specify a top level directory. Has this changed in 9i? Is it possible to specify a top level directory and then utl_file can write to subdirectories? John --

Re: Fixed_date and dbms_job

2003-03-14 Thread Michal Zaschke
Hi, 1) check job_queue_processes and job_queue_interval parameters in your init.ora file 2) have a commit after dbms_job.submit 3) if you want the procedure to be executed every second, then the next date should be 'sysdate+1/86400' = dbms_job.submit(:job_num, 'myprocedure;',sysdate,

RE: Backup Strategy

2003-03-14 Thread Jack van Zanen
1. I suggest U buy the book on RMAN by I believe O'Reilly Backup Recovery by Rama Velpuri 2. Come up with a list of all possible failures/crashes 3. Document a recovery scenario for all points 4. TEST Them. Redo log member failure. How do you see that?? It should be OK because it is

create database fails on parallel server (linux)

2003-03-14 Thread Bruno Vanters
Hi, I have RadHat AS2.1, oracle 8.1.7.4 (with OPS) oracm, oranm, watchdogd are running create database fails with ora-29702 lmon trace contains: /usr/oracle/admin/OPS/bdump/lmon_1164.trc Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.4.0 - Production With the Partitioning and Parallel Server

Re: Ot: Budding dba

2003-03-14 Thread rgaffuri
Mike Ault's DBA book has some good DBA questions. Its a really good book. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California--

Re: Backup Strategy

2003-03-14 Thread Joe Testa
Jay, I've got pretty much a common framework written in unix shell scripts to do most backup/restores for RMAN. I'm finishing up the front end(text menus for unix) but the back end scripts are pretty much solid. I'll be releasing the whole thing under GPL(for those of you who don't know what

Re: log buffer space

2003-03-14 Thread K Gopalakrishnan
Arup: NO FLAMES The second condition is not quite true. It is 2/3 full in the current versions. /NO FLAMES It is very easy to test with the event 10046^8. KG --- Arup Nanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AK, If the log buffer is at least 4MB, then increasing it will not help, rather it may

RE: utl_file_dir and 9i

2003-03-14 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: utl_file_dir and 9i John, In 9i, Oracle is recommending that you make use of 'CREATE DIRECTORY' rather than UTL_FILE_DIR ... firstly because a directory can be created dynamically, so to adda new sub-directory you don't have to bounce the instance. Plus instead of '*', you can

ODBC access to Oracle db

2003-03-14 Thread Dwayne Cox
Hi, Is there a way to disable ODBC access to an Oracle database from the database side? Perhaps an init.ora setting or something? TIA Dwayne -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Dwayne Cox INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services--

Re: Backup Strategy

2003-03-14 Thread Chuck Hamilton
Post a message to the list where they can be found when your ready. I'd like to take a look at them. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 6:53 AM Jay, I've got pretty much a common framework written in unix shell

RE: BMC Patrol

2003-03-14 Thread Ball, Terry
We are currently using Patrol. We just upgraded to version 3.4 so that we could be 9i compatable. We experience less than 2% impact at the worst of times. Most of the time, it just hums along. Terry Ball, DBA Birch Telecom Work: 816-300-1335 FAX: 816-300-1800 -Original Message-

RE: High consistent gets , 10046

2003-03-14 Thread Gorbounov,Vadim
Thank you, Jonathan, No need for apology, all you input is very valuable. Note about update/select for update just great, didn't realize this. About chache chains. Taking real-time snapshots revealed breathtaking FILE# DBABLK COUNT(*) -- -- -- 9

Re: ODBC access to Oracle db

2003-03-14 Thread Igor Neyman
I don't think so. Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:18 AM Hi, Is there a way to disable ODBC access to an Oracle database from the database side? Perhaps an

RE: why SAN ? why not external storage ?

2003-03-14 Thread Nelson, Allan
Yep, if you buy ide drives from wholesalers. I want 4 disks of 73GB capacity for an HP storage network. $5600 for the first quote. Proprietary architectures generate expensive parts. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Standby errors

2003-03-14 Thread Ball, Terry
Oracle 8.1.6 on Solaris 5.8. We have a read-only standby database for one of our production databases. Each night, the standby is shutdown and the previous days archive logs from production are applied. Then the database is brought backup in read-only mode. To get the archive logs, a hot backup

RE: utl_file_dir and 9i

2003-03-14 Thread Darrell Landrum
Good points, also consider the security issues that exist because of 'util_file_dir=*'. With that, any user that can run a procedure and write (or overwrite) files in locations that should be accessible only by oracle. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/14/03 07:08AM John, In 9i, Oracle is recommending

Re: Fixed_date and dbms_job

2003-03-14 Thread Kader Ben
Thnks Michal for your input, All seems right for me: SQL show parameter job NAME TYPEVALUE --- -- job_queue_interval integer 90 job_queue_processes integer

RE: Fixed_date and dbms_job

2003-03-14 Thread Kader Ben
Thanks Jacques, Yes I did: VARIABLE jobno number; BEGIN DBMS_JOB.SUBMIT(:jobno, 'fixed_date_proc.getSystemDate;',sysdate, 'sysdate', true); commit; end; / Ben --- Jacques Kilchoer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After calling dbms_job.submit, did you issue a commit? -Original

JDBC thin driver losing connection

2003-03-14 Thread Ehresmann, David
List, We seem to be losing our client connection with a JDBC thin driver connection. The client and the developer say after a while the connection just goes away. This is 8.1.7 64bit and HP11. It does not happened on AIX. Is there something I need to configure, maybe in sqlnet.ora? Could it

RE: utl_file_dir and 9i

2003-03-14 Thread Pete Sharman
True, but any DBA who puts utl_file_dir=* into their parameter file should be hung, drawn and quartered anyway! Just imagine what the effect is - you've now given people rights to open system01.dbf, write to it and close it. Hmm, could that cause any problems? :) Pete Controlling developers is

Re: log buffer space

2003-03-14 Thread Arup Nanda
KG, Thanks for the response. Just for my curiosity, is it documented somewhere that the log buffer if flushed when 2/3rd full? From the Manual /server.920/a96524/c09procs.htm#3158 (please check the URL in OTN, the first part is not complete), here is an excerpt MANUAL LGWR writes one contiguous

RE: utl_file_dir and 9i

2003-03-14 Thread John Dunn
Which is why I want to know if in 9i I can specify a top level directory John -Original Message- Sent: 14 March 2003 14:19 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Good points, also consider the security issues that exist because of 'util_file_dir=*'. With that, any user that can run a

Re: Standby errors

2003-03-14 Thread Adriano Freire
Terry, what's chances the your scrit copy the archive logs the main database to standby database on a same moment when de database is saving the archive log file? Adriano - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:19

File Restoration/Recovery

2003-03-14 Thread Gary Chambers
All... A developer working on a Solaris 2.6 server running Oracle 7.3.4 desires a nightly backup (by simply copying them to a backup directory) of the datafiles of an active instance. I explain that it will be a waste of tape because the files will be corrupt and useless. He counters, As long

segment from block#

2003-03-14 Thread AK
Is this a good query to find segment where this block ( 259186 ) belongs ? select segment_name from dba_extents where block_id= 259186 and 259186 = block_id+blocks -ak

Re: log buffer space

2003-03-14 Thread AK
Do you guys think , adding more log file can help ? I think it should not , cuz any way logwriter is going to write in one datafile at a time , correct ? -ak - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 4:32 AM Arup:

RE: Fixed_date and dbms_job

2003-03-14 Thread Darrell Landrum
Ben, If this problem has not been fixed, check something else. Run: select job, what, broken, failures from dba_jobs; I don't know how many, but after a certain number of failures, a job is marked as broken and won't run automatically. Darrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/14/03 08:38AM Thanks

RE: log buffer space

2003-03-14 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Add one more condition: New in Oracle 9i, it will write when 1 meg is reached, so the 1/3 criteria is never reached if you use a big buffer. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:59 AM To: Multiple

RE: Backup Strategy

2003-03-14 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Jay If you want a good book to get up to speed on RMAN, buy Oracle9i RMAN Backup Recovery by Robert Freeman and Matthew Hart If you want to compare the steps for various recovery scenarios between RMAN and user-managed recovery, get Oracle Backup Recovery 101 by Smith and Haisley. It

RE: Sun=/var/messages HP-UX=???

2003-03-14 Thread Anderson, Brian
Actually /var/adm/messages on hpux is the message file, which my solaris 8(2.8) machine is also using /var/adm/messages, maybe I changed this, I don't remember. /var/adm/syslog/ is the default syslog directory equivalent to /var/log/ on solaris. -Original Message- From: Nelson, Allan

RE: utl_file_dir and 9i

2003-03-14 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: utl_file_dir and 9i The answer is still NO Raj - Rajendra dot Jamadagni at espn dot com Any views expressed here are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art !! -Original

Re: File Restoration/Recovery

2003-03-14 Thread Rachel Carmichael
no no no no no no If he is REALLY lucky, and no one is using the database at the instant he does all the copies (and I mean the OS as well), then MAYBE, POSSIBLY, if the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny are present and bless the copy, he might have a valid backup. But I wouldn't bet my job on it.

RE: utl_file_dir and 9i

2003-03-14 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: utl_file_dir and 9i Pete, At-least that way to can verify that your backup and recovery scenario's are up-to-date 8:) Raj - Rajendra dot Jamadagni at espn dot com Any views expressed here are strictly personal. QOTD:

Veritas Quick I/O for Oracle

2003-03-14 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Is anyone using Veritas Quick I/O for Oracle? We are purchasing some new Solaris systems with fiber channel and Veritas File System, and the Veritas salesperson is claiming up to 400 times faster. I would like to know if anyone else has discovered this miracle and what benefits you are seeing.

RE: ODBC access to Oracle db

2003-03-14 Thread Stephane Paquette
Access is very appreciated by our end users here. On the most sensible systems we worked with the dev teams on the login procedure. We usually enable a role in the login procedure so the users can only connect to the database via the application. Another way we had implemented security is that we

RE: a DIFFERENT sql question

2003-03-14 Thread Aponte, Tony
Title: RE: a DIFFERENT sql question SELECT DISTINCT t1.category CAT ,t2.type TYP ,SUM(DISTINCT t1.amount1) OVER(PARTITION BY t1.category) Sum1 ,SUM(t2.amount2) OVER(PARTITION BY t1.category, t2.type) Sum2 FROM t1 ,t2 WHERE t1.mykey1 = t2.mykey1 / CAT TYP SUM1 SUM2 AA x 8 27 AA

RE: log buffer space

2003-03-14 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
What's the size of your log buffer, and the redo log file? Do you see any errors/messages in alert.log file that are related to 'checkpoints' or 'log switching'? - Kirti -Original Message- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Do you guys

Re: log buffer space

2003-03-14 Thread AK
Are there any equations which can say log buffer is small or large ? I mean how to find the proper size of log buffer . -ak - Original Message - From: Deshpande, Kirti To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:13 PM Subject: RE:

Re:File Restoration/Recovery

2003-03-14 Thread Gary Chambers
Dick... Thanks very much for the reply! Only if 1) The database is shutdown prior to the copy of the datafiles, and everything else that compromises the database (online redo, control files, etc...) I hate second-guessing myself, but this is what I've been trying to tell him. or 2) the

RE: Organizational Challenge - Data Management Team

2003-03-14 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ron - As a solo DBA shop, I can't be much help except to point out that most of what I've heard involves the DBAs specializing between production work and development work. Some DBAs administer the production databases, others work with the developers. This also seems to suit the personality

RE: log buffer space

2003-03-14 Thread Cary Millsap
I think the only ways adding more log files might help is if your app is waiting on log file switch (%) events. Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: - Hotsos Clinic 101, Mar 25-27 Oxford - Hotsos Clinic 101, Apr 8-10 Chicago -Original Message-

Re: High current mode buffer gets on insert

2003-03-14 Thread Paul Baumgartel
I thought I'd repost to see if I could get a response. Anyone? --- Paul Baumgartel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking at a client's tkprof output, showing among other things that the insertion of about 135,000 rows taking 450 seconds of CPU, and with current mode buffer gets numbering

Re: log buffer space

2003-03-14 Thread Arup Nanda
AK, Could you provide the redo log sizes and the log_buffers parameters, please. Also let us know the log switch frequency, too. Thanks. Arup - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:14 AM Do you guys think ,

Re: Oracle Development Suite for Linux?

2003-03-14 Thread Stephen Andert
This link is about installing on Red Hat Advanced Server. What differences will I face trying to install on Red Hat 7 (or 8 if I can get my video card working in 8)? Thanks Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/10/03 09:28PM I installed 9.2 on redhat 8.0 with great luck. I installed on a 700 PC with

Re: File Restoration/Recovery

2003-03-14 Thread Ray Stell
As with all backup and recovery plans, you should test, document, and perhaps automate the process, with particular emphasis on the recovery. What your associate describes sounds like an very expensive BR plan. On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 07:44:01AM -0800, Gary Chambers wrote: All... A

RE: utl_file_dir and 9i

2003-03-14 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Precisely But wouldn't it be nice if Oracle made '*', in the utl_file_dir specification, an unacceptable parameter value? - Kirti -Original Message- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L True, but any DBA who puts utl_file_dir=* into

Re[2]:File Restoration/Recovery

2003-03-14 Thread dgoulet
Gary, I had a similar engineer managed DB around here for a while. The problem was that 'someone' deleted a couple of the datafiles by 'mistake'. (Ever see that CDW commercial concerning the full file server?) Well I got asked the same question to which I had a very good laugh told the

Re:File Restoration/Recovery

2003-03-14 Thread dgoulet
Gary, Only if 1) The database is shutdown prior to the copy of the datafiles, and everything else that compromises the database (online redo, control files, etc...) or 2) the effected tablespaces are put into hot backup mode before the copy, in which case when you restore the files Oracle

Re: segment from block#

2003-03-14 Thread Arup Nanda
Join the file_id as well as follows select segment_name from dba_extents where file_id = 123 and 259186 between blocks and blocks+block_id HTH Arup - Original Message - From: AK To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:03 AM

db file scattered read

2003-03-14 Thread AK
Here is a part of trace file . I am finding that oracle is trying to read 8 or 3 or 7 blocks at a time . But block numbers are all sequential i.e. it will read 3 blocks starting from 14706 and then 8 blocks starting from 14710 ( 14706+3 ). Why it doesn't read 8 blcoks always it

RE: why SAN ? why not external storage ?

2003-03-14 Thread Scott . Shafer
Oh, Gods forbid the sysadmins would have to gulp do their job... HAHAHAHAHA!!! Scott Shafer San Antonio, TX 210.581.6217 -Original Message- From: Mogens Nørgaard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:

Re: Fixed_date and dbms_job

2003-03-14 Thread Jared . Still
You can't call a job every second via DBMS_JOB. I believe that at best the resolution is 1 minute. You could just open another session and run something like this: declare fd varchar2(50) := '01/01/2010 00:00:00'; v_sql varchar2(200); begin loop v_sql := 'alter system set

Bypassing startup triggers

2003-03-14 Thread Thomas Day
Any way to do that? Fast answer is appreciated. TIA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Thomas Day INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web

Re: segment from block#

2003-03-14 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
Title: Re: segment from block# You also need to specify the file_id in the predicate. However, on anything but a micky-mouse (T) database this query will take a long time which is why I run a nightly job to populate a extent_to_object table which will give me that answer quickly (except

RE: Is range partitioning possible on part of varchar2 column ???

2003-03-14 Thread Janardhana Babu Donga
This seems to be a good idea. I will see if this is acceptable to my people. Earliar I suggested to change to date field, and was not acceptable for them as there seems plenty of code needs to be changed. I will see if this change is acceptable for them. One thing I could understand clearly from

RE: File Restoration/Recovery

2003-03-14 Thread Spears, Brian
Chances are excellent, that you/oracle would not be able to recover. Oracle support might bring the super tool with the swat expert for 5000 bucks an hour...and then it might still be a mess. They would love you doing this stuff.. Brian -Original Message- Sent: Friday, March 14,

Re:File Restoration/Recovery

2003-03-14 Thread Gene Sais
Now, you could put the tablespaces in read only mode, then the copy would work. But then again, could you put all the tablespaces in read only mode ? h, don't think so :). [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/14/03 11:54AM Gary, Only if 1) The database is shutdown prior to the copy of the datafiles,

Re: Veritas Quick I/O for Oracle

2003-03-14 Thread Babu Nagarajan
we recently moved from t64 to sun and had io related perf issues w/o quick io. once the veritas db version (which which quick io comes) was installed, the performance was back on par with t64... babu - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: File Restoration/Recovery

2003-03-14 Thread Babu Nagarajan
you are right and the developer is not. cold backups taken with the db open are worthless. you cannot use them to open it back to a consistent state babu - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:44 AM All... A

Multiple Instances and 9iRAC

2003-03-14 Thread Thompson, Todd
My company is currently considering using Oracle 9i RAC. One of the proposed environments is to have multiple oracle instances (3 or more) configured on a 4-8 node RAC cluster. Does anyone have any insights as to the viability of this implementation? Will the high speed inter connect be

RE: Organizational Challenge - Data Management Team

2003-03-14 Thread Stephen Lee
In a previous life, I worked at WilTel (very well managed), which became WorldCom (so-so), which became MCI WorldCom (no comment). I started out in WilTel's Engineering Department which (wisely) kept all of IT operations separate and independent from the grand and glorious (and huge) company IT

RE: Standby errors

2003-03-14 Thread Steve McClure
I have seen lower sequence logs complete archival after higher sequence logs. Usually coinciding with some sort of I/O bottleneck where multiple archiver processes are competing for limited bandwidth. I have not seen any sort of log corruption as a result of that process though. If the logs

RE: Veritas Quick I/O for Oracle

2003-03-14 Thread Adams, Matthew (GECP, MABG, 088130)
Title: RE: Veritas Quick I/O for Oracle got a copy, benchmarked it. No discernable difference for our application. Others I know swear that it's great. So I guess it varies by the application. Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Another month has ended. All goals met All

Re: disable ODBC access to Oracle db

2003-03-14 Thread Dwayne Cox
This was my first thought. On Friday 14 March 2003 10:48, Stephane Paquette wrote: Access is very appreciated by our end users here. On the most sensible systems we worked with the dev teams on the login procedure. We usually enable a role in the login procedure so the users can only connect

RE: log buffer space

2003-03-14 Thread Pete Sharman
Really? I thought that condition was there pre-9i as well. Maybe I'm mistaken. Pete Controlling developers is like herding cats. Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that! Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA -Original Message- WILLIAMS Sent:

RE: File Restoration/Recovery

2003-03-14 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Gary - send the developer to backup and recovery school. he is wrong. as Rachel said, *maybe* it will work once. but as a DBA, you personally can *never* support this in a real environment. you will not be able to guarantee the same results every time. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified

RE: Multiple Instances and 9iRAC

2003-03-14 Thread Pete Sharman
Title: Message RAC is a multiple instance one database configuration. Different instances on different nodes accessing a single database on shared disk. Can you have multiple RAC databases running in a cluster? Sure, if the machine has enough resources. That's about as close as we can say

Re: Fixed_date and dbms_job

2003-03-14 Thread Kader Ben
Many thanks Jared, Definitely I think this is only one away to resolve my problem. Have nice week end, Ben --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can't call a job every second via DBMS_JOB. I believe that at best the resolution is 1 minute. You could just open another session and run

Re:RE: why SAN ? why not external storage ?

2003-03-14 Thread dgoulet
Humm, must of missed this one on the rebound. Anyway, here Disk space is an admin nightmare. Each time we want to reassign disks from one server to another here comes EMC to re-program the Symmetrix array otherwise the SA has the possibility of assigning 2 servers to the same disk. OOPS I

Oracle JDBC thin driver

2003-03-14 Thread Rick Stephenson
Oracle 9.2.0.2 Can the Oracle JDBC thin driver be used with RAC to setup failover and load balancing between instances in the same way the thick driver can? Thanks, Rick Stephenson This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the

Re: Bypassing startup triggers

2003-03-14 Thread Jared . Still
alter system set _system_trig_enabled = false; Jared Thomas Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/14/2003 09:04 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Bypassing startup

RE: log buffer space

2003-03-14 Thread Chris Stephens
Title: RE: log buffer space I think this might help... http://www.ixora.com.au/tips/tuning/log_buffer_size.htm -Original Message- From: Deshpande, Kirti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: log

Re: File Restoration/Recovery

2003-03-14 Thread Darrell Landrum
Gary, I second this user's comments. Is it possible to get a valid backup while the database is up? Yes, it is but it is just plain silly (at the very least), to plan to do so. Whether or not this backup is good depends on no activity and if there's no activity, why not just shut it down

Re: Bypassing startup triggers

2003-03-14 Thread Darrell Landrum
You might try putting _system_trig_enabled=FALSE in your init file. I'd test this though to make sure. (or disable the triggers in question) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/14/03 11:04AM Any way to do that? Fast answer is appreciated. TIA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:

Re: log buffer space

2003-03-14 Thread Arup Nanda
Dennis, The 1MB condition was in 8i as well, at least in 8.1.7, as I mentioned in my original post. I was always under impresssion that the flush is triggered by the buffer being 1/3rd full; but KG mentioned it was 2/3rd, not 1/3rd and I was wondering where he got that information from and if

RE: File Restoration/Recovery

2003-03-14 Thread Pete Sharman
What can I say? Shoot the danged developer! No, no, no, no, no. The backup is as much use as the proverbial on a bull. Period. Pete Controlling developers is like herding cats. Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that! Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle

Re: Multiple Instances and 9iRAC

2003-03-14 Thread Arup Nanda
Todd, RAC is a multi-instance database. If you have n nodes in a cluster then you generally have (although not necessarily that many) n instances accessing the same database. When you mention 3 or more Oracle instances, perhaps you mean 3 or more "databases" each in a separate cluster of 4

RE: utl_file_dir and 9i

2003-03-14 Thread Pete Sharman
Nah, can't do that! It would make our training courses that use it too difficult to set up! :) Pete Controlling developers is like herding cats. Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that! Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA -Original Message-

Ignore post about startup trigger

2003-03-14 Thread Thomas Day
That wasn't the problem at all. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Thomas Day INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services

RE: log buffer space

2003-03-14 Thread Pete Sharman
Maybe finger stutter. I've never seen it mentioned anywhere except as 1/3. Pete Controlling developers is like herding cats. Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that! Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA -Original Message- Sent: Friday, March 14,

Re: Bypassing startup triggers

2003-03-14 Thread Chaim . Katz
How about alter system set _system_trig_enabled =false chaim Thomas Day [EMAIL PROTECTED]@fatcity.com on 03/14/2003 12:04:33 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Any way to do that?

Re: Veritas Quick I/O for Oracle

2003-03-14 Thread Brian Haas
DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote: Is anyone using Veritas Quick I/O for Oracle? We are purchasing some new Solaris systems with fiber channel and Veritas File System, and the Veritas salesperson is claiming up to 400 times faster. I would like to know if anyone else has discovered this miracle and what

RE: Organizational Challenge - Data Management Team

2003-03-14 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Ron, I think you are starting at a good place. Production DBA's worry about different things than Development DBA's. Mostly they are concerned with (in priority order) Backup schedules Validations (make sure they are working), disk usage (make sure there is enough) and on-going tuning issues.

RE: RE: why SAN ? why not external storage ?

2003-03-14 Thread Scott . Shafer
All of the places I've worked its been sysadmins fat-fingering that has hosed or cross mounted disks. Then again, we've never had EMC... HP arrays are enough trouble. Scott Shafer San Antonio, TX 210.581.6217 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: Fixed_date and dbms_job

2003-03-14 Thread Igor Neyman
It takes 16 failures to mark the job as broken. Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:24 AM Ben, If this problem has not been fixed, check something else. Run: select

How to get working hours ???

2003-03-14 Thread Andrea Oracle
Hi, We have open Time for every order, ef: Open Time -- 03/12/03 11:08:07 How to calculate the working hours (8am - 5pm, no weekends) that a file remain open until now? (Sysdate - Open_Time) returns all the hours including weekend and 8am, 5pm hours. We only like to know the

RE: db file scattered read

2003-03-14 Thread Cary Millsap
For the answer to your first question, see Jeff Holts Predicting Multiblock Read Size at www.hotsos.com/catalog. Prior to Release 9, the statistic ela= 1 means that the syscall lasted somewhere between 0.005000 and 0.014999 seconds in duration. Full details forthcoming in

RE: segment from block#

2003-03-14 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
You will need FILE_ID as well. Here is what I use: -- find_segment.sql -- Finds segment name based on file_id and block_id set Lines 132 col Owner for a10 col Segment_name for a30 col Segment_type for a20 col Tablespace_name for a30 select Owner, Segment_Name, Segment_Type,

RE: File Restoration/Recovery

2003-03-14 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: File Restoration/Recovery Schema level export can fix the *thinking* Raj - Rajendra dot Jamadagni at espn dot com Any views expressed here are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an

Re: Fixed_date and dbms_job

2003-03-14 Thread Darrell Landrum
Thanks!! Darrell Landrum Database Administrator Zale Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/14/03 12:44PM It takes 16 failures to mark the job as broken. Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday,

RE: Oracle JDBC thin driver

2003-03-14 Thread Pete Sharman
Title: Message No, that's why it's the thin driver. If you want TAF capability, you have to use the JDBC thick driver instead. Pete "Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" Bruce Pihlamae, long-term

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2003-03-14 Thread Joseph S Testa
They have been removed due to my rman framework scripts taking the disk space. Sorry. Joe I have found Joe Testa's site has a good set of RMAN scripts (I think they came from Jack van Zanen off this list), quite simple but they give the syntax for most of the commands you will want The link

RE: Backup Strategy

2003-03-14 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
I have found Joe Testa's site has a good set of RMAN scripts (I think they came from Jack van Zanen off this list), quite simple but they give the syntax for most of the commands you will want The link was http://www.oracle-dba.com but that is no longer working Where have you put them Joe??

constraints and optimizer

2003-03-14 Thread becker . bill
Hello, Env: Oracle 9.2.0.2.0 on Solaris 9 I suspect this is a foolish question, but I will ask anyway: (It's Friday; my brain stops working after Wednesday) How much does the presence of constraints influence the optimizer, if the indexes are present? We are developing a method for

RE: log buffer space

2003-03-14 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Arup I have a busy day, so the only resource I can quote without research is the Oracle Education Oracle9i Database Performance Tuning Student Guide. Lesson 5-3 reads: When the redo log buffer is one-third full. Hope that answers your question. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch,

Re: db file scattered read

2003-03-14 Thread Jonathan Lewis
The counts are inclusive: 14706 / 3 means 14,706 14,707 14,708 so you have to skip one then start again at 14,710. Yes, 'ela' is the elapsed time in 1/100 of a second. Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk Now available One-day tutorials: Cost Based Optimisation

RE: Sun=/var/messages HP-UX=???

2003-03-14 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
What version of HP-UX? Here is what I get on HP-UX 11.0: df2hp105 [IWHA]: ll /var/adm/me* /var/adm/me* not found - Kirti -Original Message- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Actually /var/adm/messages on hpux is the message file, which my

RE: log buffer space

2003-03-14 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I remember seeing documentation on it for 8i as well. --- Pete Sharman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? I thought that condition was there pre-9i as well. Maybe I'm mistaken. Pete Controlling developers is like herding cats. Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook Oh no, it's not. It's much

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