Re: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-12 Thread Yechiel Adar
] cc: Subject:Data Purging Strategy Dear List, I need some inputs from you all regarding purging data from the database. This is the requirement We define a retention period for all the data in the system. When the retention period is reached, the data should be deleted

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-08 Thread cjgait
Another poor man's solution would be to unload the tables into flat files and attach to them as needed using Oracle's external table feature from 9i. That solution should hold for quite a while into the future since the external table function is very much like SQL*Loader, which is so

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-08 Thread Ron Rogers
to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Data Purging Strategy Dear List, I need some inputs from you all regarding purging data from the database. This is the requirement We define a retention period for all

Re: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-08 Thread Jared Still
:Data Purging Strategy Dear List, I need some inputs from you all regarding purging data from the database. This is the requirement We define a retention period for all the data in the system. When the retention period is reached, the data should be deleted, but then at a later

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-08 Thread Scott . Shafer
Burnt mud? Isn't that all scotch? Scott Shafer San Antonio, TX 210.581.6217 -Original Message- From: Steve McClure [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 4:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Data Purging Strategy Sherry

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-08 Thread Whittle Jerome Contr NCI
Title: RE: Data Purging Strategy And finding something to play that CD in 50 years, much less understand the data format, will be like finding something to play an old 78 now. 78. How's that for showing my age! I even had a 16 once. And a 4-track (pre 8-track). Jerry Whittle ACIFICS DBA

Re: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-08 Thread Darlene Marley
Hair of the dog! I wonder if that would help my sorry butt. Might have to leave for the airport early and sit at the bar until the stupor clears. Hope I don't miss my plane. D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Burnt mud? Isn't that all scotch? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-08 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Data Purging Strategy Dear List, I need some inputs from you all regarding purging data from the database. This is the requirement We define a retention period for all the data in the system. When

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-08 Thread Jared . Still
: RE: Data Purging Strategy Sherry Finish? I thought you liked scotch that tasted like burnt mud? -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 10:55 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L That reminds me: Mark, your annual stipend is due

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-08 Thread Rachel Carmichael
water constantly dripping on stone, will wear away the stone. And an earthquake, with debris falling on that stone could shatter it. I don't think even that will work --- MacGregor, Ian A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went to one meeting where someone from another DOE lab said they needed to

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-08 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Data Purging Strategy Dear List, I need some inputs from you all regarding purging data from the database. This is the requirement We define a retention period for all the data in the system. When the retention period

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-08 Thread Stephen Lee
-Original Message- I went to one meeting where someone from another DOE lab said they needed to store some data on media which would last 10,000 years. I suggested chisels and stone tablets :) That gold platter that NASA sent out into space: How long is it supposed to last?

Re: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-08 Thread Stephane Faroult
Stephen Lee wrote: -Original Message- I went to one meeting where someone from another DOE lab said they needed to store some data on media which would last 10,000 years. I suggested chisels and stone tablets :) That gold platter that NASA sent out into space: How long is it

Re: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-07 Thread Yechiel Adar
Hi Tim We just signed a contract for external storage system from EMC and the configuration is going to be: Regular servers - connect as Nas Database servers - connect as San. If I remember correctly Nas use SCSI connections while San use fiber. Yechiel Adar Mehish - Original Message -

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-07 Thread Mark Leith
by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/06/2002 07:56 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Data Purging Strategy Hey Dennis, Mark Leith is the only person on this list allowed to mention 3rd party

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-07 Thread Rachel Carmichael
: Subject:RE: Data Purging Strategy Hey Dennis, Mark Leith is the only person on this list allowed to mention 3rd party products. I am sure he bought the franchise from Jared :) John -Original Message- Sent: 06 November 2002 14:15 To: Multiple recipients of list

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-07 Thread Mark Leith
, Sherry finish. :) Jared [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/06/2002 07:56 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Data Purging Strategy Hey Dennis, Mark Leith

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-07 Thread Miller, Jay
recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Data Purging Strategy Dear List, I need some inputs from you all regarding purging data from the database. This is the requirement We define a retention period for all the data in the system. When the retention

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-07 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
it to offline tape with the knowledge that you may never see that data again. Jared [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/06/2002 01:13 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Data Purging

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-07 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/06/2002 01:13 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Data Purging Strategy Dear List, I need some inputs from you all regarding purging data from the database

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-07 Thread Miller, Jay
it to offline tape with the knowledge that you may never see that data again. Jared [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/06/2002 01:13 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Data Purging

Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-06 Thread prem
Dear List, I need some inputs from you all regarding purging data from the database. This is the requirement We define a retention period for all the data in the system. When the retention period is reached, the data should be deleted, but then at a later time, some user might request for

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-06 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Prem, I would re-visit the requirement. Why do you feel the need to delete the data from the database? What is the purpose for this type of requirement? It would be far easier to modify the requirement than to do what you are thinking of doing. Adding columns to database tables

Re: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-06 Thread Tim Gorman
ed storage, and then finally reside in archive media file-systems such as tape or magneto-optical based HSM file-systems. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:13 AM Subject: Data Purging Strat

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-06 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
the data back because of software compatibility issues. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message-From: Tim Gorman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 8:49 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: Data Purging Strategy

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-06 Thread Conboy, Jim
here's some gotchas involved but some variation on that theme might work. Jim -Original Message-From: Tim Gorman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 8:49 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: Data Purging Strategy

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-06 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Prem - You are receiving some excellent advice from Tom and Tim. I would mention two items in addition: - If you ever hope to re-use the data you archive off-line, you must also archive all the related tables, because after all, this is a RELATIONAL database. - PrincetonSoftech has a product

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-06 Thread John . Hallas
In response to a post on data purging Tim Gorman wrote some on SAN-based disk, some on NAS-based storage. Can someone please explain the differences between these technologies please. My understanding that a SAN is a group of disks which are available on a network and are not 'owned' by a

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-06 Thread John . Hallas
Hey Dennis, Mark Leith is the only person on this list allowed to mention 3rd party products. I am sure he bought the franchise from Jared :) John -Original Message- Sent: 06 November 2002 14:15 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Prem - You are receiving some excellent advice

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-06 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Hey, thanks for mentioning that, I'll have to mind my manners. I really don't have a connection to that vendor, just attended a demo. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:56 AM To: Multiple recipients of

Re: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-06 Thread Jared . Still
PROTECTED] 11/06/2002 01:13 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Data Purging Strategy Dear List, I need some inputs from you all regarding purging data from the database

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-06 Thread Mark Leith
LOL! Thanks John! ;) As a matter of fact.. ;P I do actually know of another tool that does just this, it's called Checkmate from a company called BitByBit http://www.bitbybit.co.uk (which I have just checked and it now seems they have been acquired by OuterBay!).. We actually used to promote

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-06 Thread Jared . Still
] cc: Subject:RE: Data Purging Strategy Hey Dennis, Mark Leith is the only person on this list allowed to mention 3rd party products. I am sure he bought the franchise from Jared :) John -Original Message- Sent: 06 November 2002 14:15 To: Multiple recipients of list

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-06 Thread Rachel Carmichael
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Data Purging Strategy Hey Dennis, Mark Leith is the only person on this list allowed to mention 3rd party products. I am sure he bought the franchise from Jared :) John

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-06 Thread Steve McClure
, Sherry finish. :) Jared [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/06/2002 07:56 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Data Purging Strategy Hey Dennis, Mark Leith is the only

Re: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-06 Thread Tim Gorman
, Thomas F To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 7:18 AM Subject: RE: Data Purging Strategy Tim, my problem with moving data to tape is as follows: Your one strategy involved moving read-only tablespaces to tape. what if you

Re: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-06 Thread Jared . Still
and hoping you can use it later. Jared Tim Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/06/2002 03:08 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Data Purging Strategy Agreed

Fw: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-06 Thread Tim Gorman
... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 4:26 PM Subject: Re: Data Purging Strategy Tim, I missed the part earlier where you mentioned HSM. Though somewhat familiar with it, I've never used

Re: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-06 Thread Tim Gorman
In response to a post on data purging Tim Gorman wrote some on SAN-based disk, some on NAS-based storage. Can someone please explain the differences between these technologies please. My understanding that a SAN is a group of disks which are available on a network and are not 'owned' by a

RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-06 Thread paquette stephane
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Data Purging Strategy Hey Dennis, Mark Leith is the only person on this list allowed to mention 3rd party products. I am sure he bought the franchise from Jared :) John -Original