RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-03-22 Thread Abdul Aleem
like this sell or don't. (Hard to say since we want to have the product). So have to live with it. Aleem -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:43 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:Re[2]: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users Wednesday

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2002-02-20 Thread Leo K
: Subject:Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients using Oracle. This is being done to determine if we have sufficient licensing. We have about 100 instances to monitor. Has anyone done this? Any ideas on what

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users Rachel - By Web license, do you mean the unlimited-user CPU-based licensing? Thanks. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002

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2002-02-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
the internet, NOT INTRANET. Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 12:08 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users Can anyone provide more details on Web licensing? I asked our manager that negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
]] Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users Can anyone provide more details on Web licensing? I asked our manager that negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU (formerly

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Steve McClure
Our Oracle rep fully understood that our DB is accessed via our intranet, a large third party network, and the internet. We were only required to purchase CPU based licensing. There was no additional Web licensing fee. After reading this, I am concerned they will be back to discuss more fees.

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Jay Hostetter
: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users Can anyone provide more details on Web licensing? I asked our manager that negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore, and it only shows Named

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2002-02-20 Thread Jared . Still
] cc: Subject:RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users Our Oracle rep fully understood that our DB is accessed via our intranet, a large third party network, and the internet. We were only required to purchase CPU based licensing. There was no additional Web licensing fee

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Karniotis, Stephen
Compuware Corporation Direct: (248) 865-4350 Mobile: (248) 408-2918 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:www.compuware.com -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 2:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

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2002-02-20 Thread Grabowy, Chris
Computer Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users Can anyone provide more details on Web

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2002-02-20 Thread michaelcupp
Title: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users Maybe it has something to do with whether you post your data to an internet or intranet site. ?? -Original Message- From: Steve McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 1:59 PM To: Multiple recipients

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2002-02-20 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users Can anyone provide more details on Web licensing? I asked our manager that negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore, and it only shows Named and Processor

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Kevin Lange
: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users Can anyone provide more details on Web licensing? I asked our manager that negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore, and it only shows Named

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2002-02-20 Thread dgoulet
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users Can anyone provide more details on Web licensing? I asked our

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Whittle Jerome Contr NCI
More likely how close Uncle Larry is to Bill Gates in the World's Richest Man contest. Jerry Whittle ACIFICS DBA NCI Information Systems Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 618-622-4145 -Original Message- From: Farnsworth, Dave [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] From following this thread on Oracles

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Steve McClure
, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users Can anyone provide more details on Web licensing? I asked our manager that negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU (formerly UPU

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2002-02-20 Thread dgoulet
or whatever. Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users Can anyone

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Bellows, Bambi
recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users Can anyone provide more details on Web licensing? I asked our manager that negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Kevin Lange
. Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users Can anyone provide more

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Steve Rospo
Nuclear Plant? Don't say Larry didn't warn you: The Programs are not intended for use in any nuclear, aviation, mass transit, medical, or other inherently dangerous applications. It shall be the licensee's responsibility to take all appropriate fail-safe, backup, redundancy, and other

Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Smith, Ron L.
We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients using Oracle. This is being done to determine if we have sufficient licensing. We have about 100 instances to monitor. Has anyone done this? Any ideas on what Concurrent users might mean to the majority of people? We have

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2002-02-19 Thread traci . l . rebman
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2002-02-19 Thread Jared . Still
:14 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients using Oracle. This is being done to determine if we

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2002-02-19 Thread Bunyamin K. Karadeniz
PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients using Oracle. This is being done to determine if we have sufficient licensing. We have about 100 instances to monitor. Has anyone done

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2002-02-19 Thread Stephane Faroult
Smith, Ron L. wrote: We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients using Oracle. This is being done to determine if we have sufficient licensing. We have about 100 instances to monitor. Has anyone done this? Any ideas on what Concurrent users might mean to the

Re: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Rachel Carmichael
you need to be careful if you are also using databases whose contents appear on the web, as Oracle will want you to use a web license (extremely expensive) even if the data is not directly accessed but appears on the web in static pages generated from the Oracle database. --- Stephane Faroult

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Thanks for the info! Ron -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Smith, Ron L. wrote: We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients using Oracle. This is being done to determine if we have sufficient

Re: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Jared . Still
ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users Smith, Ron L. wrote: We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients using Oracle. This is being done to determine if we have sufficient licensing. We have about 100 instances

Re: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Jared . Still
PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/19/02 01:04 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users you need to be careful if you are also using databases whose contents

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Rachel - By Web license, do you mean the unlimited-user CPU-based licensing? Thanks. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L you need to be careful if you are also using

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Rachel Carmichael
that's not the terminology they used when talkikng about it with me. the sales rep specifically said web license which led me to believe it was another form of pricing. --- DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rachel - By Web license, do you mean the unlimited-user CPU-based licensing?

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Steve McClure
Our site just went through this, and Oracle determined that we needed to use CPU licenses. We actually replaced our 4 cpu DG Aviion with a new Sunfire 3800 with two sparc3 processors. The money saved in Oracle licensing paid for the new equipment. They simply came in and told us that the

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Jon Baker
Title: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users I too went through this mess (twice). A CPU license gets you unlimited. If it's on the web, they don't like the idea of using an application server that utilizes one connection with internal login/logout capability/security. Why twice? Second

Re: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Kwek Li Gek
of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients using Oracle. This is being done to determine if we have sufficient licensing. We have about 100 instances to monitor

Re: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Kwek Li Gek
of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients using Oracle. This is being done to determine if we have sufficient licensing. We have about 100 instances to monitor

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Suhen Pather
Licensing - Concurrent users We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients using Oracle. This is being done to determine if we have sufficient licensing. We have about 100 instances to monitor. Has anyone done this? Any ideas on what Concurrent users might mean