Re: Please share your experience with RAC on linux:)

2002-07-23 Thread Don Granaman
I'm working on getting a new system up on the same (?) platform - Dell PowerEdge 6450 nodes, Dell/EMC FC4700 array, and 9i RAC. Click on the Dell/Linux Yes in the certification matrix at: http://www.oracle.com/ip/deploy/database/features/ops/certification/index.ht ml?content2.html 1) The

Export syntax

2002-07-23 Thread cosltemp-g . manoj
BDY.RTF Description: RTF file

Re: Moving tables from one schema to another

2002-07-23 Thread Daniel Wisser
hi! if it's just a few tables you can use copy copy from x/x@db to y/y@db create table_name using select * from original_table if thats not handy i would EXP the scheme and import it with imp y/y@db file=/path fromuser=x touser=y then drop the old scheme regards daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Export syntax

2002-07-23 Thread Nirmal Kumar Muthu Kumaran
C:\EXP SCOTT/TIGER TABLES=EMP QUERY='WHERE JOB IN (''MANAGER'')' THIS WORKS FINE... hth. nIRMAL (oCP?). -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:53 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L the following syntax gives invalid col name : exp

RE: Export syntax

2002-07-23 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: Export syntax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: lundi, 22. juillet 2002 23:53 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Export syntax the following syntax gives invalid col name : exp test/test file=expt.dmp

RE: Moving tables from one schema to another

2002-07-23 Thread Nirmal Kumar Muthu Kumaran
Let me know why you put restriction on export/import? -Original Message- Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 8:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi I have a user with a schema and want to move that schema to another user. I don't need the original user after the change Can

RE: Export syntax

2002-07-23 Thread cosltemp-g . manoj
BDY.RTF Description: RTF file

RE: FW: bind vars change explain plan

2002-07-23 Thread Thomas, Kevin
From the O'Reilly Oracle SQL Tuning Pocket Reference There is one situation in which bind variables are not such a great choice. If you have column data in a table having a disproportionate number of rows with certain values, and a very small number of rows with other values, you should be using

error when acessing table_privileges

2002-07-23 Thread M B Shibu
Hi friends . I am getting the error ora-24238  when accessing  the table table_privileges .   How can I solve this .?? Oracle version is 8.1.7.4.1 in win2k. [EMAIL PROTECTED] SELECT * FROM TABLE_PRIVILEGES; ERROR: ORA-24328: illegal attribute value Thanks shibu

RE: how to force the DB to SKIP tx recovery ?

2002-07-23 Thread Vikas Khanna
No, Instance recovery has to take place internally, SMON has to recover the committed transactions which were left hanging in the cache to datafiles so that the files become synchronized. After that the db gets opened and roll backwards takes its own time. It depends SMON does this job in the

RE: Export syntax

2002-07-23 Thread G Sanjay
Did you run catalog.sql which calls catexp.sql? Sanjay -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 July, 2002 4:53 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Oracle Version: 8.1.7 OS : Sun Solaris Shell: ksh the following syntax gives invalid col name : exp

RE: how to force the DB to SKIP tx recovery ?

2002-07-23 Thread Rahul
Vikas, even if the parameters were set for the checkpoint to happen often, all the transactions *not* commited would still be rolled back !! for example, when i shut down the PC in the middle of doing an update of 1/2 a million rows !!! (how would these parameters help?) -- From:

RE: how to force the DB to SKIP tx recovery ?

2002-07-23 Thread Vikas Khanna
Rahul, Instance recovery requires Rollforward and Rollbackwards. If the transaction is not committed it has to be rollbacked once the instance gets started. Let us assume that there are no committed transactions which were left in the buffer cache to be flushed back on to datafiles. This means I

RE: Oracle - 32bit/64bit??

2002-07-23 Thread Adrian Roe
Just log into the database using sqlplus and it will tell you /u01/app/oraclesqlplus / SQL*Plus: Release 9.0.1.0.0 - Production on Tue Jul 23 10:16:50 2002 (c) Copyright 2001 Oracle Corporation. All rights reserved. Connected to: Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.0.1.2.0 - 64bit

RE: Oracle - 32bit/64bit??

2002-07-23 Thread Vikas Khanna
If 64 bit then Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.0.1.2.0 - 64bit Production else Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.0.1.2.0 end if; Vikas Khanna -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 3:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Just log into the

RE: Rant

2002-07-23 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Security is like insurance, people don't want to think about it. Like people in battle, everyone tells themselves that the person next to them will be the one to get shot. And they advance over the ridge, facing the sun... Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems

Discoverer 9i: Export data to PDF gives internal error

2002-07-23 Thread Bachmann, Henrik
Hi there! In discoverer 9.0.2.39.01 (desktop edition), EUL 5.0.0.0.0.0 the export data option to PDF gives the following error: Internal Error in generating report Export failed. In MetaLink you can find bug 780474 for Discoverer 3! It seems to be the same bug?! If there is a workaround

RE: bind vars change explain plan

2002-07-23 Thread Toepke, Kevin M
Mike: According to the docs, the first time an query is parsed, Oracle peaks at the bind variable and bases the explain plan on those values. The values of the bind variables are never looked at again Kevin -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 6:58 AM To: Multiple recipients

RE: EMN0

2002-07-23 Thread April Wells
Anita Oracle Support doesn't really care why it is happening. All I get is, hangs happen, your two options are shutdown abort/startup restricted/shutdown immediate (a valid solution) or putting in Dead Connection Detection and adding overhead. The ever so wonderful Metalink has at least a

Re: Re: Please share your experience with RAC on linux:)

2002-07-23 Thread chaos
Don Granaman£¬ I write to dell and they said: // We are working on a certified configuration of Oracle 9iRAC - Release 2 on RH Advanced Server on the 6650 platforms. This certified configuration will be available soon. I have cc'ed our Product Marketing

Re: Rant

2002-07-23 Thread Ruth Gramolini
But if you restore to a clone and then export and import you won't have the tablespace offline will you? RBG - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 1:53 AM What Ruth describes is tablespace point in time recovery or

Re: Myers-Briggs

2002-07-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
um the I doesn't mean stubbornness it's where you get your energy -- from yourself (Introvert) or from others (Extrovert) it's the Feeling part that makes me wonder about the DBA/computer stuff... aren't geeks supposed to be loners? --- Boivin, Patrice J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's

Re: Rant

2002-07-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
my constant comment to management is If I am doing my job right, you should be wondering why you are paying me this much money. When the world blows up and I fix it, fast, you will KNOW why you are --- Joe Testa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mkb, you're right, the glory is in tuning nowadays, but

Re: Myers-Briggs

2002-07-23 Thread Rodd Holman
Where do you take this profile to find out what you are? I'm curious now. Is there someplace on-line that will let you do this? Rodd Holman On Mon, 2002-07-22 at 21:18, Boivin, Patrice J wrote: That's very funny. INFP DBA... Wow! You do what you want with verve and to Hell the

Re: Rant

2002-07-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I start those discussions with are you SURE you want to depend on me being ethical and honest as your security policy? --- Tim Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that the glory is in tuning, but I also think backup/recovery gets a sufficient amount of respect. It's nice now that

Re: RE: Rant

2002-07-23 Thread Ruth Gramolini
Banish him to the hinter lands, (where ever they are) and let us purify the list! And Gary, I have root privileges! Ruth - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 4:49 PM hey - who is this SA and what is he doing here?

RE: SQL Query

2002-07-23 Thread Aponte, Tony
Title: RE: SQL Query I hope this is not to late for you. Anyway, this questions comes up often. Below is the solution to pivot rows for up to 12 values of field1. Just adjust to fit your range of values. HTH Tony Aponte Home Shopping Network, Inc. create table tab1 (field1 number,field2

RE: 9i RAC on NetApp

2002-07-23 Thread Erik Williams
It makes it possible to upgrade without bringing the entire cluster down. Erik -Original Message- From: Orr, Steve [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 7:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: 9i RAC on NetApp I'm looking at the NetApp

RE: Rant-Rant

2002-07-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
so sweet. so deluded. I'm one of the chronological seniors here.. not the oldest I've found but close on the other hand, AARP (American Association of Retired People) hasn't started sending me their propaganda yet --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't know that they gave Managers jobs to

locking issues in web based applications

2002-07-23 Thread Ratnesh Kumar Singh
Hi I'm not very familiar with web based application development. One of our programmers has asked me a question regarding locking issues in web based applications.In a typical scenario , users access the oracle database thro a browser via app-svr/web-svr . Connection pooling is implemented on

RE: OEM changes

2002-07-23 Thread Conboy, Jim
Now please, please tell me you don't REALLY talk about this geeky stuff at parties! Jim -Original Message- Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 9:53 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Wish I could. This was at a party, and the person speaking was an Oracle employee. We were

RE: Rant

2002-07-23 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
-Anniversary -Wife's birthday Suck up. ;o) -Original Message- Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L For me, two things are embedded in permanent memory Anniversary Wife's birthday All that is good flows from these (see, I NEVER remember the

archived log file shipping to standby site from master site

2002-07-23 Thread Arslan Bahar
Hi Guys , I have a standby server at diffrent city and Automotic log transfer which is performed via listener is not fast fast becuase of our network structer and so I have decided to ship logs via an autotamed shell ftp script but may be is there an intellegent tool for this kind of

Index performance

2002-07-23 Thread Seema Singh
Hi I am executing following query adn this query hits a number of indices on this table.let me know what is wrong please.all in where clause are having indexes. select name,last_access, reg_date from empmaster where emp_id100 and reg_dateto_date('2001-01-01','-MM-DD') and emp_st='valid'

Recompiling blocked package - locating blocking session

2002-07-23 Thread Miller, Jay
Had a problem this morning where a package was invalid and it would hang when we tried to recompile. We assumed that some other session was trying to recompile it but was hanging for some reason. I have plenty of ways to look at table locks but don't have a query to show locked packages.

Re: Myers-Briggs

2002-07-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
do a search for Meyers-Briggs and there are sites A lot of companies use this as a way of finding out what type a person is so you can learn how to deal with the people you work with. It's supposed to help with management styles etc --- Rodd Holman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where do you take

Re: Rant-Rant

2002-07-23 Thread KENNETH JANUSZ
What's your mailing address? I can make the arrangements for you. Ken Janusz,CPIM - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:33 AM so sweet. so deluded. I'm one of the chronological seniors here.. not the

RE: Rant-Rant

2002-07-23 Thread Ron Rogers
OH, to be young again and know what I know now. AARP has some nice offers when you travel. Mentioning the youth in management, At my last job (pre golden handshake) I loved letting my manager know that I had more time in the company then they had on the face of the earth. . It helped when

RE: Is Oracle University Courses reqd for OCP Upgrade ??

2002-07-23 Thread Bob Lofstrand
As I understand it the classes are required now to get certified straight from nothing to 9i. Only a test is required to go from 8i to 9i. Also, I believe it is only one course to get OCP. It is two more advanced courses for OCM. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 1:04 PM To:

Re: Rant-Rant

2002-07-23 Thread Ruth Gramolini
AARP has already stopped sending me propaganda. I think I am the oldest on the list. RBG - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:33 AM so sweet. so deluded. I'm one of the chronological seniors here.. not the

RE: locking issues in web based applications

2002-07-23 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ratnesh I assume you are using the JDBC interface, rather than J2EE. You may want to consider buying the book Java Programming with Oracle JDBC by Donald Bales. He devotes a chapter to this subject. One issue he raises that will limit your options is whether you have other applications besides

IO wait

2002-07-23 Thread Jack Silvey
All, We are tuning a new vital process on our data warehouse, and it is IO intensive - lots of parallel direct reads and writes. During our testing we are driving IO wait to ~60% (per top). questions: 1) is top a valid measure of IO wait? 2) Is a high io wait an issue to be concerned about? 3)

RE: shutdown abort / startup restrict / shutdown vs. shutdown imm

2002-07-23 Thread Gesler, Rich
Title: shutdown abort / startup restrict / shutdown vs. shutdown immediate What I sometimes use is alter system checkpoint startup force restrict shutdown normal -Rich -Original Message-From: Jacques Kilchoer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:53

Re: Myers-Briggs

2002-07-23 Thread Jack Silvey
Here is the online test, very interesting. I am INTJ as well. http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm Jack That's very funny. INFP DBA... Wow! You do what you want with verve and to Hell the consequences whenever you blow up. Being a P, you are pragmatic about your

RE: Myers-Briggs

2002-07-23 Thread Mark Leith
We used to use these at my last company, and I turned out to be a High C.. Which actually meant that I was a classic sales person profile.. Funny.. I always thought of myself as more of a techie in a sales persons role.. ;) -Original Message- Carmichael Sent: 23 July 2002 16:18 To:

RE: Rant-Rant

2002-07-23 Thread Toepke, Kevin M
Hmmm... thats intersting. I'm somewhat your junior and I've been getting their propaganda for a couple of years already. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:34 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L so sweet. so deluded. I'm one of the chronological seniors here..

RE: archived log file shipping to standby site from master site

2002-07-23 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Arslan - Have you looked at mapping a network drive (or is that what you mean by automatic log transfer)? What do you mean that it is not fast, and why should an FTP be faster? For example, is it a matter of the time taken to transfer each log, or the amount of network bandwidth used? Dennis

RE: Myers-Briggs

2002-07-23 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm -Original Message-From: Rodd Holman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:18 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: Myers-BriggsWhere do you take this profile to find out what you are? I'm

Loading tables from XML files

2002-07-23 Thread Schauss, Peter
Is there a utility similar to SQLLDR which will load tables from XML files? I found the Java and PL/SQL APIs for loading tables from XML files and wrote a trivial Java application to load data so my immediate problem is solved. I just wanted to make sure that I hadn't missed a simpler way to

RE: Rant

2002-07-23 Thread Cunningham, Gerald
Has anybody ever come across a virus that affects Oracle db's via sqlnet? Just curious how such a thing would work (have some ideas). There have to be thousands of vulnerable db's out there (sys/change_on_install, system/manager, etc.) (I've been reading Tom Clancy lately... Getting even

Re: 9i RAC on NetApp

2002-07-23 Thread Hemant K Chitale
On an installation on a Tru64 Cluster, with the Cluster-File-System, there *is* only 1 ORACLE_HOME, shared by both nodes. I don't see why it cannot be done on another platforms, provided that the platform allows the file-system to be mounted on both nodes concurrently. Hemant At 03:53 PM

RE: RE: Rant

2002-07-23 Thread Jesse, Rich
That happens even to us SAs who are also DBAs (or vice versa). About five years ago, I was explaining DCL and VMS to a new co-worker and describing how I help protect against accidental file deletion by having DEL*ETE :== DELETE/LOG/CONFIRM in my SYS$LOGIN:LOGIN.COM. So, I confidently issued a

RE: Myers-Briggs

2002-07-23 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Beware of self-reports! They are notoriously innacurate. e.g. ask people what they will be doing in the next three years, they are almost always wrong. Ask them what they are like, ask them their traits, and often they are wrong. Wishful thinking kicks in, perhaps. Also when people think

RE: OEM changes

2002-07-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
not often... but there were at least 8 or 10 people there who were DBAs and this party was the thank goodness the darned book is done party so we started talking about writing books and someone said something about OEM 101 and I'm usually the one at the party saying (screaming?) NO MORE

RE: Myers-Briggs

2002-07-23 Thread April Wells
We did a personality assessment class as a facilitation to team building. It was supposed to make 'us' aware of other personalities, and how they think and how they work best and how they interact and what they can bring to a team. Was a kinda neat class... but it needed to be given to more than

How to notify the password expiration in oracle using email?

2002-07-23 Thread Mandal, Ashoke
Hi All, Does anybody have a standard code or process for sending email from oracle to address the following issue. Thanks, Ashoke -Original Message- Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:37 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Not sure it would be the best but... logically I would:

(memes) not making much headway with critiquing elitist dba

2002-07-23 Thread Eric D. Pierce
Robert, I got into computers after being in the fertilizer industry, a segue which has many times seemed quite apt. A year or two ago, I noticed that Oracle Education had a training/certification track for something they called Database Operator (DBO) that was quite similar to what you are

RE: Myers-Briggs

2002-07-23 Thread kkennedy
About 15 years ago, I was working as a contractor for a federal agency. The director got this bright idea to have everyone, both fed and contract, take the Myers-Briggs. I got through about the first 10 questions before I gave up in disgust and frustration. I was able to answer about 1 or 2

Re: Index performance

2002-07-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
why do you think hitting the indexes is a bad thing? what is the performance of this query? What's the explain plan? --- Seema Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I am executing following query adn this query hits a number of indices on this table.let me know what is wrong please.all in

RE: shutdown abort / startup restrict / shutdown vs. shutdown immedia

2002-07-23 Thread kkennedy
Title: shutdown abort / startup restrict / shutdown vs. shutdown immediate For openers, shutdown immediate is generally quicker than the combination ofshutdown-abort/startup-restrict/shutdown-normal. It is also gentler. Consider the analogy of shutting down a Windows desktop computer. Is it

Re: Rant-Rant

2002-07-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
oh, thanks, but they'll start sending me stuff next year and I can wait until then :) --- KENNETH JANUSZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's your mailing address? I can make the arrangements for you. Ken Janusz,CPIM - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

RE: Myers-Briggs

2002-07-23 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
I think this is funny, corporations relying on the Myers-Briggs which is based on Jung's depth psychology - archetypes, synchronicity, collective consciousness, alchemy and magic... I don't believe most HR realize this. Bureaucracies are supposed to be rational and here they rely on knowledge

new OEM / Re:RE: Rant

2002-07-23 Thread Eric D. Pierce
Hold on does that mean that since I never learned it, I should just wait for the new one? :) Will it support 8.1.7 in client-server mode? :):) (Or just Oracle9i?) regards, ep On 22 Jul 2002 at 10:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YUP, Saw the new version at an Oracle event in Boston a

RE: Myers-Briggs

2002-07-23 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
I sit corrected... Intuitive = stuborn. Intraverted = leave me alone, I need to recharge. : ) Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 10:28 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:Re:

Re[2]: Rant-Rant

2002-07-23 Thread dgoulet
Well, just watch your mailbox for when the American society of Morticians starts sending you funeral planning information. Now you know your REALLY old. Dick Goulet Reply Separator Author: Ruth Gramolini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 7/23/2002 7:38 AM

Re: error when acessing table_privileges

2002-07-23 Thread Suzy Vordos
Select using a column list, excluding the CREATED column. ORA-24328 means 'illegal attribute value', so I think the CREATED column is the problem because it's defined as a varchar2(0). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Suzy Vordos INET: [EMAIL

PTFM? / Re:RE: RE: Rant

2002-07-23 Thread Eric D. Pierce
You can get a color laser printer cheaper than that. besides RTFM, is there going to now be PTFM? On 22 Jul 2002 at 12:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrice, You can still get them, you just have to order them seperatly at a platinum plated cost. Last time I looked is was $1500 per

Re: Myers-Briggs

2002-07-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
strange I seem to have changed somewhat I'm now an ISFJ... hm, it still seems to fit me Okay, no more on this here... it needs to move to the OT list now! --- Jack Silvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the online test, very interesting. I am INTJ as well.

RE: Rant

2002-07-23 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Gerald, Contact SANS, they are working on an Oracle step-by-step guide, they are looking for people who might want to volunteer as test sites. SANS Research Office [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Send e-mail with subject line: Oracle bench test. They are just collecting names for now, waiting for

How can I check the time when any table is updated under a schema?

2002-07-23 Thread Mandal, Ashoke
Hi, One of my developer wants to know what are the tables or any other objects being modified during the execution of his application. dba_objects have following 3 date fields. But I am not sure if any of these date fields will capture the last DML(update, insert or delete) time. CREATED

Re:RE: Rant

2002-07-23 Thread dgoulet
Jerry, Don't laugh! I did an interview a couple, or has it been longer, of years ago at a financial institution in my neighborhood (northern Mass). Anyway, the interviewer who was the head of the DBA group suggested I show him how I would troubleshoot a problem that they were having. OK,

RE: Myers-Briggs

2002-07-23 Thread Mark Leith
I'm: ENTJ (Extroverted, Intuitive, Thinking, Judging) slightly expressed extrovert slightly expressed intuitive personality moderately expressed thinking personality slightly expressed judging personality LOL I'm a Field Marshall.. -Original Message- Sent: 23 July 2002 16:29 To:

RE: RE: Rant

2002-07-23 Thread kkennedy
AMEN!!! Those yellow stickies all over the CD case just don't cut it and there is not enough screen space on any terminal I've seen that replaces multiple books open at the same time or books with paper weights holding them open to two separate sections for quick flipping. On the other hand,

Re:How to notify the password expiration in oracle using ema

2002-07-23 Thread dgoulet
What version? Reply Separator Author: Mandal; Ashoke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 7/23/2002 8:53 AM Hi All, Does anybody have a standard code or process for sending email from oracle to address the following issue. Thanks, Ashoke -Original

RE: Myers-Briggs

2002-07-23 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)
Title: RE: Myers-Briggs I have been subjected to this rubbish repeatedly for the last 20 years or so, including being forced to do my senior project in college on non-sense related to this test and the results. My personal opinion: it's a bunch of crapola. One of the major precepts of this

RE: shutdown abort / startup restrict / shutdown vs. shutdown imm

2002-07-23 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Title: shutdown abort / startup restrict / shutdown vs. shutdown immediate Check this out too :) http://www.speakeasy.org/~jwilton/oracle/shutdown-abort-bad.html - Kirti -Original Message-From: kkennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:14 PMTo:

RE: PTFM? / Re:RE: RE: Rant

2002-07-23 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
How about PARTFM (pronouned 'PartyFM' ;) ? - Kirti -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You can get a color laser printer cheaper than that. besides RTFM, is there going to now be PTFM? On 22 Jul 2002 at 12:36, [EMAIL

RE: Index performance

2002-07-23 Thread Nicoll, Iain (Calanais)
Also do you know what is the most selective part of the query. If you know that one index will bring back the fewest rows then try hinting to use it. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 5:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L why do you think hitting the indexes

RE: IO wait

2002-07-23 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Have you considered trying StorageXpert from Quest? - Kirti -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 10:58 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L All, We are tuning a new vital process on our data warehouse, and it is IO intensive - lots of parallel direct reads and

RE: shutdown abort / startup restrict / shutdown vs. shutdown imm

2002-07-23 Thread Gesler, Rich
Title: shutdown abort / startup restrict / shutdown vs. shutdown immediate I don't necessarily agree that shutdown immediate is quicker. If you force a checkpoint prior to the shutdown abort the subsequent crash recovery upon startup is usually pretty fast. Parallel recovery could be a

Re: error when acessing table_privileges

2002-07-23 Thread Igor Neyman
Not a problem under 8.1.5 or 9.2. Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:58 PM Select using a column list, excluding the CREATED column. ORA-24328 means 'illegal

RE: Index performance

2002-07-23 Thread Whittle Jerome Contr NCI
Title: RE: Index performance Seema, It would really help to see your index scripts also. If you have an index that includes emp_id, reg_date, emp_st, last_access, emp_status, and match, that index should work best. Use a hint on that index. You say that this query hits a number of

RE: IO wait

2002-07-23 Thread Beavers, Reginald
Jack, You can run 'iostat -x 5 5' to see which disk are being used. In this example, the arguments state 5 sec increments, 5 times. This output may show a need to spread your data amongst your disk differently. -reggie -Original Message- From: Jack Silvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Re: Myers-Briggs - Too many off topic topics!

2002-07-23 Thread Jesse W. Asher
There have been a lot of off topic topics lately. I finally had to add the "Rant" thread to my filters so I wouldn't get any more of it. Can we please stick to things Oracle?? Boivin, Patrice J wrote: I think this is funny, corporations relying on the Myers-Briggs which is based on Jung's

Re: How can I check the time when any table is updated under a schema?

2002-07-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
none of them will capture DML changes you have two choices: 1) turn on auditing... this will tell you at a macro level what has been touched, but won't necessarily tell you who did it or if it was done by the execution of his app 2) add an update_dt and an updated_by column to all tables and

RE: shutdown abort / startup restrict / shutdown vs. shutdown imm

2002-07-23 Thread Ishrat Jehan
Title: shutdown abort / startup restrict / shutdown vs. shutdown immediate The differences are 1.shutdown abort - is more drastic, no new users are allowed to log in, disconnects current sessions without rollback, recovery however would have to be done when restarted. 2. shutdown immediate

RE: (memes) not making much headway with critiquing elitist dba

2002-07-23 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Eric, Huh? Tom (you lost me at hallo) -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 1:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Robert, I got into computers after being in the fertilizer industry, a segue which has many times seemed quite apt. A year or two ago, I noticed

RE: Myers-Briggs

2002-07-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
well, I've done a number of test, both under trained supervision and ones like this (and yes, I do discount a lot of the online stuff) I've also worked with a therapist for years to get to really understand me. I'm pretty sure I'm not mis-stating who I am :) --- Boivin, Patrice J [EMAIL

RE: Rant-Rant

2002-07-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
what a nice way to put that :) maybe they are taking mental age into account and so think I'm about 16? either that or they have you confused with someone else, it was my understanding that they tag you as soon as you hit 50 --- Toepke, Kevin M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm... thats

RE: new OEM / Re:RE: Rant

2002-07-23 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Eric, I learned OEM and decided it just wasn't worth it. I saw nothing of added value there. I can and do everything that OEM does via either Cron or any other scheduling tool. The product makes no sense to me. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent:

RE: RE: Rant

2002-07-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
oh goodie, now I can stop feeling badly over it :) I've learned that whenever I log into a database as a superuser (connect internal or / as sysdba) the FIRST command I issue is select * from v$database so that I confirm that I am in the database I think I'm in. just a habit, but one that

RE: Rant-Rant

2002-07-23 Thread Miller, Jay
Actually I'd think entj would be just about the ideal for a dba or sa. You have the leadership ability to ride herd on people (such as developers), are driven to keep up on the technical stuff, are well-organized enough to keep track of everything... I very aware of working against my natural

RE: How can I check the time when any table is updated under a sc

2002-07-23 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
I am surprised that the developer doesn't know the code s/he wrote/maintains. g Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of

RE: shutdown abort / startup restrict / shutdown vs. shutdown imm

2002-07-23 Thread Fink, Dan
Title: shutdown abort / startup restrict / shutdown vs. shutdown immediate The Backup Recovery Handbook has a great treatment of what happens in the various shutdown methods. Here is a quick summary: ABORT - Disallow new connections, drop file locks, terminate processes IMMEDIATE -

RE: RE: Rant

2002-07-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I like the hyperlinks on the CD docs. I like the improved master index and the search facility I HATE not being able to write my own notes on the page or reading the docs on the train --- kkennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AMEN!!! Those yellow stickies all over the CD case just don't cut it

RE: Myers-Briggs - Too many off topic topics!

2002-07-23 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
Maybe during these stressful times of financial market chaos and job uncertainty, some people just need to clear the air and get stuf off their chest. The rest of us are just goofs. ;o) -Original Message-From: Jesse W. Asher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, July 23,

Re: How can I check the time when any table is updated under a

2002-07-23 Thread Ron Rogers
Ashoke, Any programer worth their salt should know what tables or objects are modified by their applications. They documented and wrote it and should know what happens when an update, delete, insert, etc happens to the data. If they do not know what happens, How did they write the application?.

RE: shutdown abort / startup restrict / shutdown vs. shutdown imm

2002-07-23 Thread kkennedy
Title: shutdown abort / startup restrict / shutdown vs. shutdown immediate Well. I'll agree with you only on the basis that shutdown immediate sometimes hangs and in those cases it is quicker to do the abort/start/shut normal combination. However, based on a quick review of my logs from

RE: How can I check the time when any table is updated under a sc

2002-07-23 Thread Lyuda Hoska
It is common situation. He/she is probably a GUI developer. Most front end developers are not too familiar with dba tables. Mandal, you can do run this query next time you have a similar queston: 1 select column_name, comments 2 from dba_col_comments 3 where table_name='DBA_OBJECTS'

RE: shutdown abort / startup restrict / shutdown vs. shutdown imm

2002-07-23 Thread April Wells
Title: shutdown abort / startup restrict / shutdown vs. shutdown immediate Yes, I WHOLE heartedly agree, and we do a shutdown immediate now, but the point is... Oracle SUPPORT seems to be of the opinion that rather than trying to figure out what is 'wrong' we should just do a shutdown abort

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