Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete

2003-04-03 Thread Fermin Bernaus Berraondo
I think I am having problems with my redologs. Under normal circumstances no errors arise, but if I do a massive import of data as I was doing last night, this is what alertSID.log shows from time to time: Wed Apr 2 23:29:52 2003 Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 557295 Current log#

9i startup on Linux

2003-04-03 Thread Daiminger, Helmut
Title: 9i startup on Linux Hi! I am having problems getting 9.2.0.3 started on Red Hat Linux 8. I've done the standard linking in rc3.d and the like. But when I reboot the machine, Oracle is not automatically started when using an SPFILE. If I dump the spfile to a text

RE: OT- Start a process after oracle on Win 2K

2003-04-03 Thread O'Neill, Sean
Peter, An option you might want to investigate writing your script command file, using the W2K resource kit utility, (can't think of it's name right now, to convert it to a service. Set service to startup automatically and then create a dependency on Oracle service for this new service to

RE: DBLink to SQL Server problem

2003-04-03 Thread Grant Allen
It's more accurate to say SQL Server *can be* case sensitive ... or not, as desired and configured. The kicker is as you describe ... if it's set to be case sensitive instead of insensitive, all object names, column names, etc. are treated that way, not just strings in char, varchar and similar

Re: Oracle view riddle I am being asked , help me out here.

2003-04-03 Thread Yechiel Adar
The create view does not access the data at all. It just create an object in the data dictionary. What you need to compare is 'select * from view' against doing the select from sqlplus. Yechiel Adar Mehish - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Remote DBA

2003-04-03 Thread Ramesh Papnoi
It can be Unix as well as Windows. As I have to support various DB's Best Regards Ramesh D. Papnoihttp://www22.brinkster.com/rpapnoi (Brainbench Brainbuzz certified Oracle 8/8i DBA Developer) -Original Message- Adar Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:39 PM To: Multiple recipients

Re: Remote DBA

2003-04-03 Thread Yechiel Adar
You did not mentioned what OS you are working on. If the remote database is on your network, even via wan, you can activate all the tools from your desktop. We use RAS to connect to remote servers without network connections and then you have SLOW network connection and your tools will work. If

RE: Remote DBA

2003-04-03 Thread Ramesh Papnoi
Thanks all for ur feedback. I would add little more into it now. Now as far as Administering is concerned it can be done on any OS Well!. How about Backup and recovery, because it requires the Manual steps as to change tapes etc and How the Remote System Administrator co-ordinates with

Anyone whom could explain this?

2003-04-03 Thread roland . skoldblom
Hallo, anone whom could explain what new. means in this pl/sql procedure. for instance: new.kundeoms := new.kundeoms + (in_diff); new.mva := new.mva + (in_diff_mva); How do I get hold of it so i can see which sql it runsor is new.kundeoms just a value from a table?

Re: Autoallocate vs Uniform extent performance

2003-04-03 Thread Connor McDonald
I don't believe that was the case. auto and uniform in all of the (admittedly rudimentary and subjective) tests I've done appear the same in terms of performance. I prefer uniform purely for the reasons of: - more thorough elimination of fragmentation - predictability of next extent sizes hth

Re: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete

2003-04-03 Thread Connor McDonald
Basically as the message suggests the redo cannot be recycled until the checkpoint has completed flushing out the cache. A *workaround* is to add redo log (size or number) but its really a heads-up about your I/O subsystem not being up to keep up under stress. hth connor --- Fermin Bernaus

RE: invalid dbms_shared_pool

2003-04-03 Thread Tim Onions
This happened to me once - when I was mistakenly ran the script as SYSTEM instead of SYS/internal. Any chance somebody did this on your DB (a long shot I know)? _ Tim Onions Head of Oracle and Web Development Speech Machines (A MedQuist Company) ...the

RE: dbshut script - shutdown or shutdown immediate

2003-04-03 Thread Rachel Carmichael
instance recovery time is more manageable in 9i -- mttr_fast_start_target in the init.ora. For a time, in version 6, Oracle said you HAD to use shutdown abort, that a shutdown immediate could corrupt the database (that was an undocumented feature) I've had cases where the regular, automated

Re: oracle full table scan

2003-04-03 Thread Peter . McLarty
Perhaps you need to do a trace to determine the real cause of you problems. Full table scans are not necessarily the problem. When you have trace for the program and the explain plain you have of the executing SQL you will have a better idea than assuming you need indexes to stop full table

RE: dbshut script - shutdown or shutdown immediate

2003-04-03 Thread Jeremiah Wilton
Mark has hit on the crux of the issue. Most of us have expectations from users and management that we will have the databases available as much as possible. Downtime costs money and should be avoided. That said, we will eventually need downtime for one reason or another. The question becomes

RE: Anyone whom could explain this?

2003-04-03 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Is this procedure being run with a trigger Roland? If so then the :new refers to the value of each row that is being inserted from the table To explain better if an update triggger is on table roland with columns (road,town,country) and one row is in the table with values Main Rd, Leeds,

RE: Interesting lesson on ARCHIVELOG mode

2003-04-03 Thread Biswas, Pradip
Good Posting, JIM . I had once gone thru the exactly same experience. Oracle database has some processes that work both independently , but again, they work in tandem. Here is the peice where LGWR (in Archivelog) and ARCH(s) are expected to work in tandem with each other (in ARCHIVELOG mode).

certifications was Re: Remote DBA

2003-04-03 Thread Joe Testa
Ramesh, since in your sig line you say you're brainbench and brainbuzz certified, do you really think those tests have any meaning, i took them and thought they were a joke. joe Ramesh Papnoi wrote: It can be Unix as well as Windows. As I have to support various DB's Best Regards Ramesh D.

RE: Oh Dear, Mr. Ellison's at it again

2003-04-03 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Title: RE: Oh Dear, Mr. Ellison's at it again 19th Century... electric cars were being made in the late 1800s... not much progress since. : ) Pat. -Original Message-From: Goulet, Dick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 4:04 PMTo: Multiple recipients

Re: Interesting lesson on ARCHIVELOG mode

2003-04-03 Thread Richard Foote
Hi James, Hopefully the other lesson you've learnt is the importance of training, even for Junior DBAs so that such fundamentally basic but potentially costly mistakes can be avoided. Cheers Richard - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Can contracting rates beat minmum wage soon? (OT)

2003-04-03 Thread Johan Muller
At least at Joe's down the road I used to make tips? Dice proudly rewarded me with this posting last night Title: SAP Database Administrator Skills: SAP, UNIX, Solaris, Oracle Date: 4-2-2003 Location: Dallas, TX Area code: 214 Tax term: CON_W2 Pay rate: $22.23/HOURLY - $22.23/HOURLY

Re: oracle full table scan

2003-04-03 Thread Richard Foote
Hi Arvind, A little test for you. You have a table that contains 10,000,000 rows that is packed tightly into 1,000,000 data blocks. You have an index that has a level of 4 and has 10,000 leaf blocks. The table is well striped across a number of devices and you have 4 CPUs on the box. You

RE: oracle full table scan

2003-04-03 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: oracle full table scan To answer the original question ... 1. use following query to see which tables are part of FTS ... it is a point in time information. (Query from www.ixora.com I think). SELECT usr.name oowner, ob.name oname FROM ( SELECT obj FROM sys.X_$BH WHERE

RE: Anyone whom could explain this?

2003-04-03 Thread Ganesh Raja
New maybe a Package and the Variables may be Public variables. HTH Best Regards, Ganesh R DID : +65-6215-8413 HP : +65-9067-8474 -Original Message- John, Tech Dev Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 7:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Is this procedure being run with a

AW: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete

2003-04-03 Thread Stefan Jahnke
Hi I would suggest to increase the redo log size. Doesn't effect you during daily operation, but prevents the database from hanging during nightly batches. No side effects I can think of (except for the fact that, of course, it will take you longer to backup the archived logs since the files are

Re: daily clone

2003-04-03 Thread Joan Hsieh
Jared, Thanks for the reply. I will try next time. I just feel like combine the reuse and set together, seems not that logical. Thanks, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From TFM: Specify REUSE to indicate that existing control files identified by the initialization parameter

Re: dbshut script - shutdown or shutdown immediate

2003-04-03 Thread Joan Hsieh
Chris, We hang on shutdown immediate, not startup. That's why I choose to use shutdown abort. Joan Chris Berry wrote: Schauss, Peter wrote: I have one Oracle instance which supports an application server which always maintains a database connection. The UNIX system

Re: oracle full table scan

2003-04-03 Thread Joan Hsieh
Hi Arvind, I don't judge full table scan is good or not necessary bad. this is the script might answer your question. -joan The following scripts provide information on the full table scan activity. If your application is OLTP only, having long full table scans can be an indicator of having

Re: oracle full table scan

2003-04-03 Thread Alex Andriyashchenko
Hello Arvind, Thursday, April 3, 2003, 5:58:38 AM, you wrote: AK Dear All, AK is there any way to find which tables (table name) are suffering from AK full table scan ,so that i can create indexes on them to enhance the AK performance. AK Thanks AK Arvind AK -- AK Please see the

RE: dbshut script - shutdown or shutdown immediate

2003-04-03 Thread Pardee, Roy E
I am certainly not suggesting that recovery can't handle a crash--I'm just trying to make sure that I understand what shutdown abort does. Some posts have implied that it's no big deal, which is counter-intuitive to me. To me, crashing a program on purpose seems like a drastic measure. No doubt

RE: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete

2003-04-03 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Fermin - Connor's reply sparked an idea. By any chance do you have your redo logs on the same device as your data files? Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 5:04 AM To: Multiple recipients of list

RE: Remote DBA

2003-04-03 Thread Jesse, Rich
Nelson, have you tried the free TightVNC from http://www.tightvnc.com ? It has a few performance features that seem to work slightly better than the standard VNC, especially over slower links like VPN over a 768Kb DSL. I've been about as happy as I can be with TightVNC for my setup. Rich Rich

RE: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete

2003-04-03 Thread Fermin Bernaus Berraondo
I dissagree, they will be bigger but there will be less of them. If the amount of processed data does not change, I do not think changing the size of the redolog files should affect the total amount fo bytes to be backeup up Thanks for the recommendation anyway ;)

Purpose of OraclePeerSNMPMasterAgent ?

2003-04-03 Thread Prem Khanna J
Guys, What is the purpose of OraclePeerSNMPMasterAgent Service ? It is listed in the o/s SERVICES list. I need to administer an oracle instance on server A from server B with DBA Studio. For this to be done , do i need OraclePeerSNMPMasterAgent running on server A. will stopping this service ,

RE: dbshut script - shutdown or shutdown immediate

2003-04-03 Thread Rachel Carmichael
the problem is, if immediate hangs and you have automated the process... nothing happens. it doesn't time out so you sit. and sit and sit. and hope that whatever is keeping the database active will eventually end. In version 7 (7.3.2) I found that while using a third party monitoring package that

RE: oracle full table scan

2003-04-03 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Tables are not suffering, they're rather cruel and coldhearted. As in the Tom Godwin's story, The Cold Equations, it's always the users who pay the price. You might try with tuning the SQL statements that access tables. Occasionally, that does the trick. -Original Message- Sent:

RE: oracle full table scan

2003-04-03 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Arvind - If you want to locate tables that are being scanned and the SQL statement, I have found the following script posted by Mohammed to work quite effectively. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] REM From: Mohammed Shakir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REM

few questions on 9i

2003-04-03 Thread Shibu MB
Hi all Can any body help in answering these questions 1. What features of Oracle 9i do you recommend to use? Why? 2. What are the features of Oracle 9i you do not recommend? Why? 3. Have you had any problems with any of the Oracle 9i features? Please elaborate. If any, how did you

RE: dbshut script - shutdown or shutdown immediate

2003-04-03 Thread Nelson, Allan
Oh, I wan't advocating a kill -9, just comparing it to a shutdown abort. AFAICT (as far as I can tell) there isn't a great deal of difference. I did, once on Oracle 7.3, have to shutdown the db with a shutdown abort and then just could never get it to open again. Could not recover it and

RE: 9i startup on Linux

2003-04-03 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Title: 9i startup on Linux Well, there is this little file called "/etc/oratab" and the dbca leaves a value of "N" in the last field. The allowed values are "N" for No, "Y" for Yes and M for Maybe. The last field is there to determine whether dbstart should start the oracle instance or

Re: dbshut script - shutdown or shutdown immediate

2003-04-03 Thread Denny Koovakattu
Using immediate or abort is a matter of personal preference. Use whichever option that works for you. But I would not agree that using shutdown abort is risky or should be avoided. (I don't know of any bugs with shutdown abort. There could be, but then a lot of other things also could go

RE: certifications was Re: Remote DBA

2003-04-03 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Say what you think Joe, When I have been looking for contacts several agencies have asked me to take those tests as a means of ensuring that I know what I am supposed to know. They act as a pre-interview filter If it sorts the wheat from the chaff then I don't think they perform a bad service in

RE: Oracle OCI JDBC Driver Not Recommended for Multiprocessor Mac

2003-04-03 Thread Richard Ji
Title: Message The performance of JDBC OCI vs Thin really depends on what you are trying to do. Thin driver can perform better than OCI and in some situations doesn't. Also there are limitations in Thin driver such as you can't return a PL/SQL table using Thin driver, you can't do TAF etc.

RE: Anyone whom could explain this?

2003-04-03 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Things like :new.value and :old.value are commonly associated with the beasts called triggers. You can find triggers on oracle tables and guns. For the rest, please read the fine manual. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 5:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Table Size?

2003-04-03 Thread Hamid Alavi
Dear List, I have a database with 500 tables I want to put these tables based on size to Three different TBS,Small size tables less than 5 M on TBS1 with extend size 160K ,Tables less than 160 M and bigger than 5 M on TBS2 with extend size 5 M and tables bigger than 160 M on TBS3 with extend size

RMAN: What blocks are backed up with a full backup?

2003-04-03 Thread Keith Moore
Our RMAN backup is backing up much more than the actual data blocks when doing a full backup. I know that it backs up all blocks that have ever been used, but I'm trying to figure out exactly what that means. My first thought was that it backs up all blocks below the HWM, but I analyzed the tables

Where to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH in Database for 3rd Party Utilities

2003-04-03 Thread Scott Graves
I hope someone on the list can help. Environment: Oracle 9.2.0.1 Red Hat Linux Im in the process of trying to connect to a Progress database via Java Stored Procedures in Oracle 9.2.0.1. The Progress JDBC driver is a type 2 driver, which means that it has shared libraries that it

RE: upgrade q

2003-04-03 Thread Leyden, Joseph
We're running Oracle 8.0.5 for 3 years now and want to go to Oracle9i. Should I a) upgrade OR b) exp the db and do an install of 9i then imp (this is a lenghty process) what say you? TIA. Joe -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Leyden, Joseph INET:

RE: Oracle OCI JDBC Driver Not Recommended for Multiprocessor Mac

2003-04-03 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Rick - In Java Programming for Oracle by Don Bales, he ran some comparative tests showing the comparative advantages of each interface under different circumstances. http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=6WIANMIL0 H

Oracle 8i Service Shutdown Crashes Database on Win2K

2003-04-03 Thread Gary W. Parker
Gurus, I am running Oracle 8.1.7.4.1 on a Win2K Advanced Server platform using 2 ZEON P4 processors. The problem I have is that when I stop the Service for the DB (OracleServiceLIMS), it crashes the database instead of performing a clean shutdown. The registry entry is set to allow 5 minutes

RE: certifications was Re: Remote DBA

2003-04-03 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
John - Thanks for the encouragement. I'll get cracking on the next exam this weekend!! Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:29 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Say what you think Joe,

RE: Table Size?

2003-04-03 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Hamid Be sure to read How to Stop Defragmenting and Start Living very carefully so you really understand the concepts. These concepts free you from being overly concerned about details. Myself, I try to plan for 1 year of growth. The future gets too unpredictable past that. Dennis Williams

RE: RMAN: What blocks are backed up with a full backup?

2003-04-03 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Keith Here is my understanding (don't rely on this one). When Oracle allocates tablespace, the disk blocks are cleared. My interpretation is that when RMAN encounters a clear block, it doesn't write it to the backup piece. I don't think it spends a lot of time trying to figure out above HWM and

RE: RMAN - Some basic Qs.

2003-04-03 Thread Gaja Krishna Vaidyanatha
Vivek, Answers to your questions embedded. You may want to read up on the manuals for more details. BTW, you don't have to copy my e-mail id in your replies, given that I belong to the list, just as many others. I am trying to avoid getting 2 copies of every e-mail that you send. Cheers, Gaja

Re: Autoallocate vs Uniform extent performance

2003-04-03 Thread Gaja Krishna Vaidyanatha
Totally agree with Connor. Just to add a comment to his note. A usage model recommended for UNIFORM vs. AUTOALLOCATE follows: If you know the data volume and growth of your segments and they are predictable, then use UNIFORM. If you are completely in the dark with: 1) How much data is going

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2003-04-03 Thread Madhavan Amruthur
Hi, I have been grappling with this for sometime I have a table a_user_groups USER_ID SECURITY_GROUP_ID GROUP_ID -- - -- 1005 1012 1010 1005 1012 1011 1006 1013 1010 1007

RE: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete

2003-04-03 Thread JayMiller
Correct. The only potential disadvantage is that recovery will take longer when bringing up the database after a crash. Jay Miller -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 9:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I dissagree, they will be bigger but there

Re: Sun HA Monitoring and Oracle 9

2003-04-03 Thread Scott Canaan
Barb, This isn't an Oracle limitation. It's a Sun HA limitation. Oracle 9i will run on Sun Solaris HA 2.2, with no problem. We've installed it and built an instance and run it. The problem comes in when you want to HA monitor the database. HA 2.2 won't even run when it gets to the Oracle 9i

RE: oracle full table scan

2003-04-03 Thread Jared . Still
Raj, Indexing small tables is a good thing if you are doing single row lookups. An index read and lookup by rowid is much more scalable than doing an FTS, even if the table is only 2 blocks. Jared Jamadagni, Rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/2003 05:28 AM

RE: oracle full table scan

2003-04-03 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: oracle full table scan Thanks Jared, What if my developer is selecting all or most of the records from the table and not all the columns in the select list are in the index that should have been used? I understand your point, in fact to use Jonathan's words .. should a small

RE: oracle full table scan

2003-04-03 Thread Jared . Still
Comparing users to Marilyn Cross. Naive, not overly bright, sentenced to death. Is that too harsh for users? Jared Gogala, Mladen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/2003 07:18 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL

RE: dbshut script - shutdown or shutdown immediate

2003-04-03 Thread Goulet, Dick
SQL*Server doesn't crash, it's a disorganized retreat. *-) Dick Goulet -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Oracle crash??? What's that :)??? Isn't that a bug in SQL Server only ? -Mensaje original- De: Rachel

SQL Question

2003-04-03 Thread Madhavan Amruthur
Hi, Sorry for reposting. Just wanted to put in a subject... I have been grappling with this for sometime and thought it will be best for others to take a look at it. I have a table a_user_groups USER_ID SECURITY_GROUP_ID GROUP_ID -- - -- 1005

RE: oracle full table scan

2003-04-03 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Jared, I like you more and more every day. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 1:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Comparing users to Marilyn Cross. Naive, not overly bright, sentenced to death. Is that too harsh for users? Jared Gogala, Mladen [EMAIL

Re: oracle full table scan

2003-04-03 Thread Stephane Faroult
Jamadagni, Rajendra wrote: PS: Stephane, you probably have this on the top of your Oracle Myth list ... right? YMMV Raj Indeed, together with 'always replace NOT IN with NOT EXISTS ...' - another case today ... -- Regards, Stephane Faroult Oriole Software -- Please see the official

Re: HP-UX 11i/8.1.7.4/login.sql

2003-04-03 Thread Joan Hsieh
I got same problem. what I did is before call sqlplus /nolog, I rename the glogin.sql to something else and change back after the jobs done. That is most easy step I need to do. Joan John Carlson wrote: The way I do it is to create another login.sql script for batch jobs only and place that

RE: dbshut script - shutdown or shutdown immediate

2003-04-03 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Precisely. I am trying to propose the abort option, but I am not the majority around this place I call work.. :) On a more than dozen times in the last few months, I had to kill oracle processes to get the database to shutdown (with immediate), so the scheduled reboot of the machine will

RE: Remote DBA

2003-04-03 Thread Nelson Flores
Chris, No i havenĀ“t tried TightVNC... I'll go and check it out ... Also I forgot to mention that there is an excellent client SW that permits a Linux/unix box to connect to a Windows 2000 Terminal Server. If anyone is interested, go to http://www.rdesktop.org/.. Pretty impressed with it ... :)

RE: oracle full table scan

2003-04-03 Thread Rachel Carmichael
only for some. unfortunately not for most of mine --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comparing users to Marilyn Cross. Naive, not overly bright, sentenced to death. Is that too harsh for users? Jared Gogala, Mladen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/2003 07:18

Do we have INSTANTIATE command in 9i Dataguard as in Oracle8i DG?

2003-04-03 Thread CSP2201
Hi All, I have been trying to upgrade our Oracle environment which is presently using Oracle8i with DataGuard setup, using the GUI based - DataGuard Manager, but so far not been successful, I am constantly and consistently getting DataGuard Remote Process startup failed, even though, I have

RE: dbshut script - shutdown or shutdown immediate

2003-04-03 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: dbshut script - shutdown or shutdown immediate -Original Message- From: Jeremiah Wilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ... So use your test systems, load them up like production, and try both. I bet in 9 out of 10 cases, checkpoint+abort+startup will be much faster

uregnt help

2003-04-03 Thread AK
I am getting following in alert log file internal error code, arguments: [17090], [], [], [], [], [], [], [] . its a hp-ux 8.1.6 system . It happens only when two user does the same thing . any idea ? -ak

RE: dbshut script - shutdown or shutdown immediate

2003-04-03 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: dbshut script - shutdown or shutdown immediate -Original Message- From: Pardee, Roy E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I would have guessed that optimally, you'd try immediate first then abort if immediate takes too long. I've read that some people on the list have

RE: oracle full table scan

2003-04-03 Thread Jared . Still
If you can change it to an IOT, it may be beneficial. There's no blanket clause to be used that says 'Always do this'. I higly encourage folks on this list to setup and use the run_stats method of comparing different access methods. This is something Tom Kyte put together. It is very simple to

Re: Oracle 8i Service Shutdown Crashes Database on Win2K

2003-04-03 Thread Jared . Still
Gary, Check doc # 136214.1 on MetaLink. There are some other non-Oracle reg entries that affect shutdown. Jared Gary W. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/2003 09:03 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL

RE: upgrade q

2003-04-03 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Joseph. I prefer to exp/imp when possible. You get a chance to change anything you like. With 8.0.5, you may have to upgrade in two steps. You could test the exp/imp on your test system and get an idea of how much system downtime your users would experience. Then ask them if that would be

Re: uregnt help

2003-04-03 Thread Ray Stell
No human should have to run 8.1.6. Maybe Note:29616.1. ORA-600 [17090] Empty error stack when signalling error Note: For additional ORA-600 related information please read [NOTE:146580.1] PURPOSE: This article discusses the internal error ORA-600 [17090], whatit means

RE: another chance for 9i CDs - Beware!

2003-04-03 Thread Smith, Ron L.
I purchased this CD-ROM last week and I must say the quality of the copy is very poor. The graphics are poor and the sound is so low you can hardly hear it. I emailed them about the quality but they did not bother to reply. Just thought I would let you all know. Ron -Original Message-

Re: uregnt help

2003-04-03 Thread Ron Rogers
oramagic, Only let one user do it at a time. What are the two users doing? Are they doing it at the same time. Are they the only ones that are able to do it? Damn if I don't sound like my father right now Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/03 02:29PM I am getting following in alert log file

RE: dbshut script - shutdown or shutdown immediate

2003-04-03 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Jacques - We have used SHUTDOWN IMMEDIATE for over 5 years now for cold backups, with zero problems. Weekend before last we had 3 production databases that didn't go down for backup (all of our databases scheduled for cold backups). When I checked the following morning they were just hanging. The

Re: uregnt help

2003-04-03 Thread Jared . Still
You can look it up at: http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml2_documents.showDocument?p_database_id=NOTp_id=153788.1 Jared AK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/2003 11:29 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL

RE: Remote DBA

2003-04-03 Thread Jared . Still
It isn't often you find a tool that compiles and runs flawlessly in a few minutes. Just installed on RH80, works perfect. Very cool tool. Thanks for the pointer. Jared Nelson Flores [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/2003 10:53 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L

RE: dbshut script - shutdown or shutdown immediate

2003-04-03 Thread JayMiller
Here's how we do it: We have 2 cron jobs, one of which runs 10 minutes after the first. The first does a shutdown immediate. The second checks if oracle is running and, if so, does a shutdown abort. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of

RE: dbshut script - shutdown or shutdown immediate

2003-04-03 Thread Jared . Still
Here's one way to do it: OS_USER=jkstill USERNAME=jkstill PASSWORD=$(pwc.pl -username $USERNAME -instance $ORACLE_SID) echo $PASSWORD unset SQLPATH # emulating a 10 second shutdown ( sqlplus -s /nolog EOF connect $USERNAME/[EMAIL PROTECTED]; exec dbms_lock.sleep(10) EOF )

RE: oracle full table scan

2003-04-03 Thread Jared . Still
Sorry, the attachments didn't make it, though they were only text. I can put them some accessible via the web if anyone wants them. Jared [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/2003 11:34 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

RE: SQL Question

2003-04-03 Thread Chelur, Jayadas {PBSG}
Madhavan, I have created a similiar table and inserted the data as follows :- = CREATE TABLE UT ( U NUMBER(4), S NUMBER(4), G NUMBER(4) ); INSERT INTO UT VALUES(2005,1012,1010); INSERT INTO UT VALUES(2005,1012,1011); INSERT

alter table add

2003-04-03 Thread AK
I added a column using alter table add ... i can see it from sql . can select it from sql . But if I try to use it in a pl/sql block or procedure .It can't find that column . is it a bug ? 8.1.6. hp-ux -ak

RE: oracle full table scan

2003-04-03 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I got the attachments... --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, the attachments didn't make it, though they were only text. I can put them some accessible via the web if anyone wants them. Jared [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/2003 11:34 AM Please respond

RE: RMAN: What blocks are backed up with a full backup?

2003-04-03 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
Actually this is how RMAN works. It writes all blocks up to the HWM of a given table, even empty ones. So, if your HWM is artifically high, you will encounter backups that are larger than they need to be. Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery On bookshelves now! RF -Original Message-

RE: certifications was Re: Remote DBA

2003-04-03 Thread Ramesh Papnoi
Joe,Dennis John U must b knowing OCP takes $$ and these were free of cost, done around 1~1.5 years back. Now these are also chargeable. Anyway I am going to remove those from my signature!! (Offcourse, I am not adding a new signature as ListMember for [EMAIL PROTECTED] :) Best Regards Ramesh D.

RE: RMAN: What blocks are backed up with a full backup?

2003-04-03 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Keith Like I said, don't rely on my interpretation. Believe Robert -- he wrote the book! And yes, buy the book. Great book, highly recommended. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0072226625/qid=1049405966/sr=8 -1/ref=sr_8_1/002-7783294-4962413?v=glances=booksn=507846 Dennis

RE: dbshut script - shutdown or shutdown immediate

2003-04-03 Thread Pardee, Roy E
Alas, I'm until recently a prisoner of windows so I can't speak to shell scripts. On windows I'd probably try a windows script host vbscript like so: warning = air code Option Explicit Dim WinShell Dim jobImmediate Dim

RE: SQL Question

2003-04-03 Thread Madhavan Amruthur
Hi Jaydas, Thanks for the reply. It gives me a good starting point to go with. The query handles cases where there are multiple rows. For eg: U=2006 has G=1010 and S=1013. If there were another U=2010 with same G=1010, then a rum through the query would generate a S=1012 for this combination also

Re: dbshut script - shutdown or shutdown immediate

2003-04-03 Thread Chris Berry
From: Joan Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris, We hang on shutdown immediate, not startup. That's why I choose to use shutdown abort. Well, in that case of course you'd use it, but personally, if it was me, I'd want to find out why it was hanging, and fix that instead. I'm not suggesting shutdown

RE: oracle full table scan

2003-04-03 Thread Ron Thomas
Did you look at them... Ron Thomas Hypercom, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Each new user of a new system uncovers a new class of bugs. -- Kernighan

RE: certifications was Re: Remote DBA

2003-04-03 Thread Spears, Brian
We got a new brand new dba in our group...he did all of the 8i and 9i certifications in 2 months. He uses large SIG letters beside his name now. He did bust his butt for a while to do it... Kinda puts one to shame doesnt it. Brian -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003

RMAN Recovery - RBS (Non System) tbs

2003-04-03 Thread Layzee DBA
Hi DBA's I am in the process of establishing Crash Recovery scenarios using RMAN and i came across one situation wherein i am able to recover a tbs having (non system tbs) rbs in it using svrmgrl but the same damn thing does not work with rman. I want to know where i am going wrong with

8i to 9i clone

2003-04-03 Thread Ehresmann, David
List, Has anybody cloned a 8i database and moved it over to 9i? I want to clone a database that is on 8.1.7 AIX 4.3 32-bit now, move it to a different server that is running 9iRel2 AIX 5 64-bit. Is this possible and has it been done? thanks, David Ehresmann -- Please see the official

Re: RMAN: What blocks are backed up with a full backup?

2003-04-03 Thread Keith Moore
I should have stated that this is Oracle 8.0.5, if that makes a difference. After posting the questions, I went to Metalink and found some conflicting informaiton, but the consensus seemed to be that it was unrelated to the HWM of the tables. For example, after dropping a table, all the blocks

RE: Remote DBA

2003-04-03 Thread Chris Berry
From: Nelson Flores [EMAIL PROTECTED] VNC and OpenSSH are slow Anything cross platform isn't going to have the same kind of optimization as a single platform solution. I find them fast enough to be useable, but you're right terminal server on windows is faster for windows boxes. and VNC is

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