Oracle 9i Lite and cellular technology

2003-07-15 Thread Saira Somani-Mendelin
I have been asked to explore the possibility of migrating our current mobile application on 9i Lite to cellular technology. I don't know where to begin. What are the hardware requirements (other than the handheld units)? I probably need a subscription to a provider that can facilitate this for us

Re: Datafiles on SAN?

2003-07-15 Thread Jared . Still
Yes. We are on our second SAN. Our first SAN had an untimely demise and caused our vendor to make some normally unheard of concessions. :) Aside from some HW problems with that first unit, SAN's are very nice. Ours ( EMC CX600, about 750 Gig usable ) is quite fast. There is currently a job

RE: Oracle 9i Lite and cellular technology

2003-07-15 Thread Goulet, Dick
Saira, If you have a Metalink Account do a search on CDPD. There is a forum discussion on what your asking. May create more questions than answers, but that's what the forums are for. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent:

RE: Datafiles on SAN?

2003-07-15 Thread Orr, Steve
Last year a U-Haul drove up to the parking lot and some guy came in saying he had big computer stuff in there and we had to get it out. (I think he was a FedX employee.) It turns out it was a NetApp for demo so we rolled it into our little local data center. After lot's of phone calls and even a

RE: Oracle 9i Lite and cellular technology

2003-07-15 Thread Saira Somani-Mendelin
Thank you. As per your suggestion, I have been able to locate some pertinent information and terminology starting with CDPD. Thanks! Saira -Original Message- Goulet, Dick Sent: July 15, 2003 4:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Saira, If you have a Metalink

RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles

2003-07-15 Thread Matthew Zito
Dennis, That's awfully kind of you - I'd love to write a book on storage and Oracle (since I've dedicated a troubling amount of my life to those two things), but I have the faint suspicion that the last 100 pages would be nothing but All Stripe and No Parity Makes Matt a Dull Boy. The try not

RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles?

2003-07-15 Thread JApplewhite
Yes, complicated with as simple a combination as tables and their indexes. Consider even more variables introduced by using LOBs and interMedia Text. In a past job, I used to make myself crazy analyzing and placing all the segments involved with interMedia-indexed CLOBs. Here's what I came up

Query tuning stumper

2003-07-15 Thread Meng, Dennis
Hi all, I have been struggling with the follwing query for hours with no avail. This is oracle 8.1.7.4 on Tru64 unix with a data warehouse setup. Invc_line is the fact table with about 267 mil records. There is a bitmap index on shipto_key(invc_line_bix04) and another bitmap index on

RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles?

2003-07-15 Thread Cary Millsap
Re-SPECT. Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: - Hotsos Clinic 101 in Washington, Denver, Sydney - Hotsos Symposium 2004, March 7-10 Dallas - Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details... -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July

RE: How to make SPFILE in sync with INIT.ORA ?

2003-07-15 Thread Niall Litchfield
And create pfile from spfile; does a similar job. I'm rapidly beginning to think that spfiles are just not worth it. Now how to reverse the policy decision having mandated them for 9i installs :( Niall -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

RE: Performance problems VMS 8i

2003-07-15 Thread Niall Litchfield
Or indeed level 8 would do Niall -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Niall Litchfield Sent: 14 July 2003 21:49 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Performance problems VMS 8i Hi Barbara After an upgrade

Re: Oracle has out-smarted me again.

2003-07-15 Thread Paul Baumgartel
The products.jar file you need is in Disk1\install\stage. --- Thomas Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interim Patch: 2878462 DATE: May 7, 2003 Platform Patch for : Microsoft Windows NT Microsoft Windows 2000 Microsoft

Re: RE: should you separate indexes from tables in separate dataf

2003-07-15 Thread Tanel Poder
Hm, index rebuilding speed shouldn't have anything to do with table data location, because when rebuilding, fast full scan is done on existing index, data is sorted to temp ts and then copied back to index tablespace... Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Re: SGA question

2003-07-15 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! I believe that you can allocate more virtual memory to Oracle than you got physical. Never cared enough to try, though. There's a init.ora parameter LOCK_SGA, if you set it to true, then Oracle tries to hard lock all pages to physical memory, in that case you would probably get error on

Re: How to make SPFILE in sync with INIT.ORA ?

2003-07-15 Thread Arup Nanda
Absolutely! The idea of spfile as a uneditable file but maintained at the runtime and the pfile is a text file but not maintained is confusing and error prone - especially for junior DBAs who suddenly find that they changed something on the init.ora but the effect was not there after the startup.

Re: RE: should you separate indexes from tables in separate dataf

2003-07-15 Thread Arup Nanda
Tanel, quotewhen rebuilding, fast full scan is done on existing index/quote True; except in case of index rebuilding with ONLINE option; the data blocks are read from the table instead. Arup Nanda - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Cary/Others RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in

2003-07-15 Thread Tracy Rahmlow
Based on Cary's paper regarding when to use an index, would there not be value in having index tablespaces with a smaller block size vs tables using a larger block size? AM PST Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:Multiple recipients of list

Re: Cary/Others RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in

2003-07-15 Thread Ryan
why would an index necessarily need to use a smaller tablespace? is this article on hotsos? Which one is it? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 6:14 PM Based on Cary's paper regarding when to use an index, would

Re: Re: Re: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate

2003-07-15 Thread Nuno Pinto do Souto
why is it useful to seperate different i/o pattersn? such as multi-block reads and single block reads? Because (assuming adaptive I/O subsystems like EMC's and such) each gets optimized into different priority scales and device queues. And of course if they are to the same device, they

security without using different usernames

2003-07-15 Thread Ryan
Title: RE: upgrade to AIX 5 I know this is terrible design, but the GUI was created by a software engineering group that is seperate from the database group. Its not scalable. So Im trying to come up with a more scalable method. I have no power to change their gui. It rides on the database.

RE: Cary/Others RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in

2003-07-15 Thread Cary Millsap
Tracy, I would have expected you to say the opposite: big blocks for index segments (to reduce B*-tree height), and small blocks for table data (to improve block selectivity). It's a pretty expensive thing to implement though (assuming you're already up, the downtime to rebuild a tablespace

RE: security without using different usernames

2003-07-15 Thread Goulet, Dick
Title: RE: upgrade to AIX 5 Ryan, What would be much better is to create the single schema and partition the tables so that each customer's data lands into it's own partition. As for this other group, make some friends. It's a lot easier to get your problems and concerns addressed if the

Re: security without using different usernames

2003-07-15 Thread Tanel Poder
Title: RE: upgrade to AIX 5 Ryan, It's alter session set current_schema = name; Tanel. - Original Message - From: Ryan To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 1:29 AM Subject: security without using different usernames I

Re: security without using different usernames

2003-07-15 Thread Ryan
Title: RE: upgrade to AIX 5 management has handled it. namely my manager and the answeris no. Partitioning cant be done. we are ingesting data to this application via transportable tablespaces. So each schema has to be self-contained. - Original Message - From: Goulet, Dick

Re: security without using different usernames

2003-07-15 Thread Ryan
Title: RE: upgrade to AIX 5 yeah i think that might be 'viable'. its a big kludge. but sometimes you have to deal with that. send outpage that alters the name of the executable, so each customer's executable has a different name use program in v$session in a logon trigger to get the

Re: security without using different usernames

2003-07-15 Thread JApplewhite
Ryan, To make a particular schema the focus for a session: Alter Session Set Current_Schema = TheSchema ; Better yet, instead of proliferating the same schema for each client, convert the tables to partitioned tables in a single schema, with each partiion being for a specific client. That way

Re: security without using different usernames

2003-07-15 Thread AK
Title: RE: upgrade to AIX 5 you can create multiple roles also . So if you have schema a,b,c and they use Z as userid to login then create role_a, role_b, role_c where role_a has permissions for object in schema a and role_b has permissions for schema b . Enable proper role at the time of

RE: security without using different usernames

2003-07-15 Thread Pardee, Roy E
Could you maybe use v$session.osuser instead of program? That way you shouldn't even have to rename the exe. HTH, -Roy Roy Pardee Programmer/Analyst/DBA SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT Extension 8487 -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 4:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list

Re: security without using different usernames

2003-07-15 Thread JApplewhite
Ryan, Segment Exchange is a very easy, instantaneous, method of moving data back and forth between standalone tables and partitioned tables. Transportable Tablespaces can ingest the data into your DB, but then it can be comfortably digested into partitions via Segment Exchange. Jack C.

RE: How to make SPFILE in sync with INIT.ORA ?

2003-07-15 Thread Molina, Gerardo
You'll appreciate spfiles if you're using RAC. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 2:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And create pfile from spfile; does a similar job. I'm rapidly beginning to think that spfiles are just not worth it. Now how to reverse the

RE: security without using different usernames

2003-07-15 Thread Rudy Zung
Title: Message Consider DBMS_RLS for row level security (or as in some other Oracle marketing-speak has been called the Virtual Private Database.) Essentially: you create a package/stored procedure function that returns a predicate that can be plugged into a WHERE clause; in your case, in

Re: Cary/Others RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in

2003-07-15 Thread Arup Nanda
Cary, On the same line, I want to propose a different thought - smaller block sizes for index tablespaces to reduce the chance that a single block is contended for by two different sessions, which indices the wait event buffer busy waits. Making them smaller, a typical index block will hold less

Re: security without using different usernames

2003-07-15 Thread Ryan
partitioning is not an option. one of our ingestion methods to bring data to the production database is transportable tablespaces. It wont work. So we cant just cram everything into the same table. We ingest data from different 'staging' servers. that have differing logic. this data is then

Re: How to make SPFILE in sync with INIT.ORA ?

2003-07-15 Thread Arup Nanda
And how, exactly? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:29 PM You'll appreciate spfiles if you're using RAC. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 2:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list

Re: Datafiles on SAN?

2003-07-15 Thread zhu chao
Hi, I think the performance requirement varies according to your application profile. Bandwidth data is valuable for DSS type database server, while IOPS is valuable for OLTP systems. For bandwidth test, maybe simple dd can do the trick? For IOPS test, it is a bit difficult., you can

Re: How to make SPFILE in sync with INIT.ORA ?

2003-07-15 Thread Tanel Poder
I don't appreciate spfile's much either, except in some cases of test instances, wheres quite easy to type alter system command followed by startup force to test effects of some parameters... But it all can be done old fashioned way as well. In RAC env I still use normal old-fashioned pfile

Re: security without using different usernames

2003-07-15 Thread Ryan
our application is deployed on multiple remote locations. this would mean we would have to record the osuser of each each user in each company. This limits the ability to scale. I believe our deployment process is we send a CD to the client and their technical support group installs it. Plus we

RE: How to make SPFILE in sync with INIT.ORA ?

2003-07-15 Thread Molina, Gerardo
Spfile is shared and can be modified dynamically without bouncing the instances. Eg. Alter system set db_cache_size = 800m scope = [ memory | spfile | both ] sid = * Without spfile, you can still make this change dynamically in memory, but you would have to manually update init.ora file to

RE: Interview Questions for a Unix Solaris System Admin

2003-07-15 Thread M.Godlewski
Matthew, Thanks for the list of questions.Matthew Zito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, here are my favorites for senior candidates (I'm giving all mysecrets away...):1) What is an inode? Bonus: What important piece of file information isNOT stored in the inode?2) What is priority paging and how

Re: Query tuning stumper

2003-07-15 Thread Mark Richard
I've only looked quickly at this query, but why do you think it should be using the shipto_key index? There doesn't appear to be any kind of filtering on the cust_shipto table so I don't know why an index would help since every record would match. Am I missing something? Also, what explain

Re: Query tuning stumper

2003-07-15 Thread Ryan
one place to look would be your sort_area_size. your doing summing and group bys... if this is too small your going to do that in a temp tablespace instead of in memory. your using bitmap indexes right? this implies that some of this data atleast is non-transactional correct? if its

Re: security without using different usernames

2003-07-15 Thread Mark Richard
I think the idea was always roles plus setting current schema - not just roles on their own. Heck, I'd be so paranoid that I'd make the default schema empty rather than belonging to a specific site so that if the executable isn't renamed then it connects to an empty database - it will make it

RE: failed to archive

2003-07-15 Thread Ravi Kulkarni
AK, I think this is because of your hot backup script. You might be encounting these messages while using Alter system archive log current from your RMAN script (match the timings and see). From your messages, you might be on 8.x. 9.x has better messages : ARC1: Unable to archive log# 2 thrd# 1

Re: How to make SPFILE in sync with INIT.ORA ?

2003-07-15 Thread Arup Nanda
The ability to change the system parameters without bouncing the system is not provided by spfile, neither in RAC nor single instance databas. It depends upon the the parameter that can be changed dynamically or not. I guess you wanted to convey the impression that the using spfiles the

RE: Interview Questions for a Unix Solaris System Admin

2003-07-15 Thread Khedr, Waleed
you forgot to list the answers :) Waleed -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Okay, here are my favorites for senior candidates (I'm giving all my secrets away...): 1) What is an inode? Bonus: What important piece of file

Removing Oracle 9iAS

2003-07-15 Thread M.Godlewski
Is there any tricks to removing Oracle 9iAS from a UNIX Solaris server, or is an rm -r on the directory structure sufficient? Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

Transparent database objects after merging

2003-07-15 Thread Ukrit . Kuprasit
Hello Gurus, I'm working merging 2 databases which have sane structure of database objects into one database. However, after merging, the business policies and regulations force us to have 2 set of database objects; for example : Database A has CUSTOMERS table. Database B has CUSTOMERS

RE: security without using different usernames

2003-07-15 Thread Mark Brooks
Some time in the past year or so I was reading an article about a similar problem where they needed to change behavior based on where the connection originated. I remember something about using IP addresses to drive the different behaviors. Sorry I can't remember more. It didn't apply to anything

Re: Transparent database objects after merging

2003-07-15 Thread Arup Nanda
You can drop or rename CUSTOMERS to, say, CUSTOMERS_A, and then create synonym CUSTOMERS pointing to CUSTOMERS_B. Or rename CUSTOMERS_B to CUSTOMERS. HTH. Arup Nanda - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent:

Re: Removing Oracle 9iAS - solution

2003-07-15 Thread M.Godlewski
I found a document on metalink. I guess my brain is working slower then my fingers this evening."M.Godlewski" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any tricks to removing Oracle 9iAS from a UNIX Solaris server, or is an rm -r on the directory structure sufficient? Do you Yahoo!?The New Yahoo!

Re: Transparent database objects after merging

2003-07-15 Thread Mark Richard
Also, depending on your requirements (which I don't fully understand) another approach may involve using views: The CUSTOMERS view could point to either CUSTOMERS_A, CUSTOMERS_B or even the merge of both tables (select * from customers_a union all select * from customers_b) if required. Of

Re: Transparent database objects after merging

2003-07-15 Thread Ukrit . Kuprasit
Hello, Sorry I might not give all the problem corectly. I need to access to both CUSTOMERS and also CUSTOMERS_B. Not just only one. If only one table, my head will not spin like this. ^__^ Ukrit K, Arup Nanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/16/2003 11:59 AM Please

RE: How to make SPFILE in sync with INIT.ORA ?

2003-07-15 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Arup My understanding is that Oracle felt if it was going to be a 24x7x365 database, it had to have more parameters that could be changed online. Some parameters were made changeable in Oracle9i, with hints of more to come. If the future is online changes, it doesn't make sense to rely on

Rollback Segs

2003-07-15 Thread venkat Rama
Hi Friends, I have 150Gb database with 30 rollback segs with optimal settings!! for normal operations no problems!! But we are doing massive updates for some ofbig tables!! So we are using vb programs and connecting to the database thru odbc dsn. My first question is how to set transaction use

Re: Transparent database objects after merging

2003-07-15 Thread Ukrit . Kuprasit
Thank you for your idea, Mark, To explain more about the problem Before we have 2 databases which they both have same sturcture and same database objects names. We have 2 set of D2K forms and reports to access to each database. After merging, we looking for move data from database B

Re: Transparent database objects after merging

2003-07-15 Thread Arup Nanda
Well, then aview is what the doctor ordered. 1. rename table CUSTOMERS to CUSTOMERS_A 2. create view CUSTOMERS select * from CUSTOMERS_A UNION ALL CUSTOMERS_B; If you do not want to show the duplicates in these tables, make the UNION ALL just UNION. HTH. Arup - Original Message

Re: How to make SPFILE in sync with INIT.ORA ?

2003-07-15 Thread Arup Nanda
Dennis, My understanding is that Oracle felt if it was going to be a 24x7x365 database, it had to have more parameters that could be changed online I couldn't agree more. 9i had more parameters that can be changed online; hope there are more in line. it doesn't make sense to rely on the

RE: Rollback Segs

2003-07-15 Thread Jorma.Vuorio
Ave ! Is there any reason not to keep maxextents always unlimited :) Extentsize should be reasonable of course. Br. Jorma -Original Message-From: ext venkat Rama [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 16 July, 2003 07:34To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Rollback Segs Hi

RE: Transparent database objects after merging

2003-07-15 Thread Munish Bajaj
I think I understand ur problem. What u can do is Create New Users for both types of form users and create private synonymsin both user schema for the respective tables and grant relevant permissions. For e.g for Customers_A table in User_A schema create private synonym with the Name

Re: failed to archive

2003-07-15 Thread Chip
In Oracle 8.1.7, a database can be configured with LOG_ARCHIVE_MAX_PROCESSES = 1 which starts 1 archive process when the database starts. If the I/O response time for archiving a log takes too long, then Oracle will automatically start another archive process. The alert log shows the various

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