Welcome mate ,
Same question I posted a month back
First get the
select osuser,sid from v$session;
then use sid in foll. query
SELECT sql_text FROM v$sqlarea WHERE (address,
hash_value) IN
(SELECT sql_address, sql_hash_value FROM v$session
WHERE sid = sid_number)
--- sam d
Try to disable the trigger first then drop it.
The error is expected because the SQL in trigger will return more than one
row.
HTH
Sanjay
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Hi List,
My friend has foll.(Big)problem.
He'was testing
Just realized that alter table disable trigger will not work too..
Even if there is only one session on server it will return more than one row
because of BG processes.
Sanjay
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Hi List,
My friend
Title: download or upload.
Some terminology confusion.
When you load a text file into the database, you call it download or upload?
When you create a text file from your database you call it download or upload?
rgds
amar
http://amzone.netfirms.com
The next server after Windows 2000 is going to be called
something like:
Windows .NET 2003
Product timeline roadmap-wise, it roughly approximates the
server version of XP, although they appear to be quite a bit
different (see below web sites).
Excerpt from the email Bill Gates sent me
sam d£¬
hei, it is easy,
logon as osuser and drop the trigger, it is ok.
I tested it on my 920 on linux:
SQL CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER tpp
2before alter or create or drop on database
3 declare
4 uname varchar2(20);
5 begin
6 select username into
I would say:
When you load a text file into the database, you call it download or
upload? = upload/insertion
When you create a text file from your database you call it download or
upload? = download/extraction
Cheers,
Kev.
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I get an Oracle8i OCP,
but I don't receive a badge.
Is it right?
Thank you
Badges, badges,,, we don't need no stinkin
badges.
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I get an Oracle8i OCP,
but I don't
The good thing with using rman online backups is no down time for
production. I clone a 50 gig database in about an hour and a half. I am
getting the cites ready as I write this.
Ruth
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Title: Message
lol
/me
hands the new ocp person a toffee ;-)
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Thanks!
rgds
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Sent: 7/22/02 3:53 AM
Some terminology confusion.
When you load a text file into the database, you call it download or
upload?
When you create a text file from your database you call it download or
upload?
Title: Message
OCP
Success Kit
After
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Oracle Technology Network
Amar - From the dictionary: upload - to transfer data or programs usually
from a peripheral computer to a central, often remote computer. In your
question of loading a text file into a database, if the text file is already
on the Oracle server, I wouldn't refer to that as an upload or download. I
Edouard,
You
will probably receive a certificate in the mail.
regards,
Pat.
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RE: Badge of Oracle8i OCP
Badges,
Title: Message
I got
the badge for my 7.3 and 8 certifications. By the time I did my 8i they'd
discontinued them.
They're nothing to get too excited about. Better thanIBM's DB2 pins
though = )
Regards,
Mike
Hately
Oracle
DBA
-Original Message-From: Sherman, Edward
Ok, I need to vent a little.
Last week, I was asked to do some tech interviews over
the phones for a mid level DBA position. Someone with
about 2-3 years experience.
I don't consider myself a real smart DBA, nor do I
think that I ask particularly tough questions. The
questions that I ask
prem.
Never did get an answer to this question. I don't know why using bind
variables changed the execution path. My best guess comes from the
developer. She thinks that when we supplied the values, the optimizer knew
what the range of values would be, and could therefore determine to use the
So no one responded with, We use raid xx. We don't have to worry about
backup/recovery. ;^)
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On 7/22/02, mkb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, I need to vent a little.
Last week, I was asked to do some tech interviews over
the phones for a mid
Obviously you need to lower your standards. Maybe
your test questions were culturally biased. Look
at the SQLSever MySQL culture and dumb down
accordingly. ;-)
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Ok, I need to vent a little.
mkb,
Your surprised? Over the last 6 years I've interviewed many a candidate
while we added two DBA's to the group. I've gotten a lot of answers like this:
Question: How do you create a table?
Answer: The developer sends me a script. I run script.
Question: How do you
One thing to keep in mind is that it is easy to get rattled during a job
interview and have your mind go blank on you. This is especially true with
computer technical types who are basically introverts. Some years back when
I was a corporate controller I interviewed a young lady for a admin
Your colleague hit the nail on the head.
Using bind variables in queries can give the database a hit or miss
approach to
whether or not it uses indexes. Something to do with how skewed the indexes
are also.
Regards,
Kev.
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To: Multiple
uh...raid. Oh yes, I have a script for that.
--- Alan Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So no one responded with, We use raid xx. We don't
have to worry about backup/recovery. ;^)
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On 7/22/02, mkb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, I
Wait, the best one yet I heard last week:
'the redo log in 9i is going away...' (Surely you
mean that undo tbsp can be used instead of rollback
segment tablespace, right???)
Yes I see your point, but thankfully, I don't do this
very often.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
mkb,
Your
baffling and frustrating. Some of these folks claimed to have 5 years
experience!!!
Unfortunately for most everyone, the only people that benefit from most
certification programs are the facilitators. They're cash cows for
the purported issuers of such certifications.
Gary Chambers
Barbara,
The path that the optimizer chooses is based on what values are bound into
the variables, but also on what information it has in the data dictionary. If
those particular tables/indexes have not been analyzed recently then the
optimizer will make wrong decisions. Also init
Ken,
The reason I liked the guy we hired as out Junior DBA. He did not know the
answer, but did know where to find it in the manuals. He also knew to calm
himself down. Premature actions often cause more trouble.
Dick Goulet
Reply Separator
Qs What Datatypes Can be Used for 2 Columns of Size 3000 in 1 Table to Store
Character Data ?
NOTE - 2 Columns of LONG Datatype are NOT Allowed in 1 Table
create table test10 (test1 long,test2 long);
create table test10 (test1 long,test2 long)
Your not the only one.
I usually start my interviews with a Metalink question, like...
When was the last time you used Metalink, and what problem did it help you
solve?
I am just amazed at the responses I get...
Oh, I haven't used that tool from (take your pick) company...
What is a
If that weren't so devastatingly accurate here, I'd laugh. I started,
asked about backups, etc etc
the response was we're on a netapp filer, they don't go down
sigh. they don't go down. Until they do
--- Alan Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So no one responded with, We use raid xx. We don't
Good rant. :)
I sympathize. The answer I get more and more is I click on this item
on the GUI... (I didn't ask you that, I asked you the theory behind
that little radio button)
--- mkb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, I need to vent a little.
Last week, I was asked to do some tech interviews
Thankfully neither do I.
Reply Separator
Author: mkb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 7/22/2002 7:30 AM
Wait, the best one yet I heard last week:
'the redo log in 9i is going away...' (Surely you
mean that undo tbsp can be used instead of rollback
segment
Pat,
Sorry for the formatting problems, I didn't check the format
of the info after doing a cut/paste from metalink.
Note: | EMS includes the following:
| Continuance of full metals services,
| consisting of:
...
-| Error Correction Support (ECS)
Here
Gurus,
ocp will let you enter into an interview - proved.
However the candidates failed to prove it.
Results spoiling the image on OCP.
Nirmal.
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mkb,
Your surprised? Over the last
I am having trouble with a compressed full export. If I run a an
interactive export it works fine. But if I run a
compressed export if fails with the following error message. The export
script is identical to the one used for another
sid on the same server. Only the sid is changed.
.
you have a script that GETS rid of BUGS!?! COOL!!!
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uh...raid. Oh yes, I have a script for that.
--- Alan Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So no one responded with, We use raid xx. We
create table t1 (a varchar2(4000));
hope that this will work oracle 8 and above.
rgds,
nirmal
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Data
Qs What Datatypes Can be Used for 2 Columns of Size 3000 in 1 Table to
Store Character
Why not VARCHAR2(3000) ?
Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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Data
Qs What Datatypes Can be Used for 2 Columns of Size 3000 in 1 Table to
Store Character Data ?
Oh I love the get a cup of coffee
in other words... THINK before you act
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
mkb,
Your surprised? Over the last 6 years I've interviewed many a
candidate
while we added two DBA's to the group. I've gotten a lot of answers
like this:
Question: How do
Jim,
So how many like this did you hear?.
John P Weatherman
Database Administrator
Replacements Ltd.
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mkb,
Your surprised? Over the last 6 years I've interviewed many a
Best answer to a question I've asked:
Question: You have a database crash at 6AM, what do you do.
Answer: Get a cup of coffee first, then look in recovery manual.
YES
Once upon a time while self-employed as a high powered consultant, er uh,
lowly DBA contractor, I was coming
I read your rant, and I agree with you. But I do have
one little itsy bitsy question...
I also asked them how they'd put a tablespace in
backup mode. Simple enough, right? Not one of them
got it right. Not even close. Didn't have clue as to
what I was talking about. Fair enough, you
varchar2 can go to 4000 (yes, in 8i)
it's in the SQL reference manual, under datatypes
--- VIVEK_SHARMA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Qs What Datatypes Can be Used for 2 Columns of Size 3000 in 1 Table
to Store Character Data ?
NOTE - 2 Columns of LONG Datatype are NOT Allowed in 1 Table
Referring to the last answer about getting a coffee I don't actually think
that is a bad answer!!
If he meant I will not rush in and do something rash, rather I will plan
what I am going to do and check the book to make sure that I am correct
then I think that is a perfectly acceptable approach.
Has anyone experienced problems with Database hanging on shutdown and the
only error anywhere is Restarting dead background process EMN0 and that
appears consistently before the inability to stop the database.
I have created an Itar (which was down graded immediately...) and hunted for
answers
I thought it was simply that with values the optimizer could look at the
histograms to see if data was skewed, whereas it couldn't with bind
variables. So the index may not have too many distinct values but the
values you were supplying had less than their fair share of records. I'd
guess that
I think I saw the correct answer to this one shoot by on the list. In
Oracle8, the use of bind variables completely prevents the Oracle query
optimizer from using histograms. Could make a big difference in which
plan CBO selects if there's a lot of data skew.
In Oracle9, it gets a little better,
Who needs a script! According to the advertising RAID kills BUGS dead
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you have a script that GETS rid of BUGS!?! COOL!!!
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To:
...Because the application requested two parse calls for this statement
from the server. The first one was a hard parse (server had never seen
the statement before), and the second one was a parse call that did not
result in a hard parse.
Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
even so, I'd rather have someone tell me my mind has gone blank, but I
know I can look it up in this manual
--- KENNETH JANUSZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One thing to keep in mind is that it is easy to get rattled during
a job
interview and have your mind go blank on you. This is especially
only a dba would think of drinking coffee as something
that would calm one down! har har har
On 22 Jul 2002 at 7:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The reason I liked the guy we hired as out Junior DBA. He did not know the
answer, but did know where to find it in the manuals. He also
IT'S NOT a radio button... It is a regular CLICKY button geez
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Good rant. :)
I sympathize. The answer I get more and more is I click on this item
on the GUI... (I didn't ask you that,
I have been reading this list for the past several months as I prepare to
move my universe of databases from 7.3 to 9 (probably 9) and I have a rant
of my own.
It seems that the implicit expectation is that every DBA should be or
should aspire to be a Master Technical DBA.
I have a slightly
re:
Results spoiling the image on OCP.
what image, the marketing people's garbage? the
clueless HR departments?
big software companies make a lot of money from
training and certification, so they have an incentive
to selectively present information in such a way as to
convince the
Doing a dbms_stats with method option of 'for all indexed columns size 254'
with compute optin.
I notice that only indexed columns are getting column stats - as
expected. Howver, if do an anaylze command instead, all columns get some
sort of stats. For non-index columns, stats are
My favorite is when they claim to run an n Terabyte database, and I ask
them how they back it up... uh we don't back it up yet...
Bzzzt!! Thank you for playing, bye bye!
P.s. I liked your rant...
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Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 12:19 PM
To: Multiple recipients
Hm.
these are almost verbatim the instructions I got from Rachel Charmichael
after we lost a disk drive and I'd been trying to recover a database for
nearly 20 hours. (That was immediately before she steered me towards the
magic command that recovered the database.)
I have, no fun. But at least your only fooling around with one tablespace
and/or file vs. the entire database. The method is rather simple:
1) The tablespace/datafile are already offline, SMON does this for you
unless it's SYSTEM in which case your not doing this in the first place.
April:
I just had something like this over the weekend. In my case,
the server was trying to run 'dbms_java.stop_server'. There was
some mysterious corruption in the stored Java classes that was making
this process hang.
If you look at 'ps' or 'top', do you see the client process from
Title: RE: FW: bind vars change explain plan
Guys,
The developer is right. The fact is that the optimizer not knowing what the value will be might not use PK or other indexes when you think it should - have seen this before. The solution in our case since the index had more than one column
you can see how often I use the GUI :)
OBTW.. for those of you who are OEM fans... I heard a rumor (from a
fairly well-informed, usually accurate source) that Oracle's changing
it all again.
T
--- April Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IT'S NOT a radio button... It is a regular CLICKY button
Caffeine calms down hyperactive people, it's one of the symptoms for that
condition.
As for me, beer puts me to sleep. I don't know what THAT means.
: )
Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
Technology
Hi
I have a user with a schema and want to move that schema to another user.
I don't need the original user after the change
Can I do this without an export/import.
All data and tables in this database I care about is in this schema
Cheers
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YUP, Saw the new version at an Oracle event in Boston a couple of months ago.
Seems that nothing is sacred anymore. BTW: Installer changes too, now you need
a full multimedia terminal, 4 channel audio VR headset recommended. :o)
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Reply
As I was trying to get this scenario worked out, so here is what I have done
to get this combination working. I deinstalled the Oracle 9i software, then
installed SQL plus client for Oracle 7.3 using a Developer 2000 CD. After
than I installed Oracle 9i to a different Oracle Home and now OLD Sql
And coffee is WAY cheaper than Addrell (my son's prescription). Caffeine
helps hyperactive people focus.
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Caffeine calms down hyperactive people, it's one of the symptoms for that
condition.
Interesting. Coffee has a calming effect? I prefer the good ACME
Earthquake Pill effect of iced tea, myself. ;)
The last time we had a developer truncate a 3M row table, I had fun with it.
Fun because some of our recovery implementations were finally proven
successful, no data was lost, and
Title: RE: Moving tables from one schema to another
1. create new user
2. export schema with data and tables you care about
3. import to newly created schema using parameters fromuser/touser
4. drop old user
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Oracle Support replied:
19-JUL-02 15:23:30
UPDATE
You are mostly correct. ECS is only for supported versions of Oracle.
However, there are some exceptions. Customers running Oracle Applications
(E-Business Suite) have full support on certain versions of Oracle software
depending on the
I was told that same thing in an interview. He said I don't
know is not a good answer. I don't know, but I know where to
find out. is much better.
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Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 9:54 AM
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even so, I'd rather have someone tell me
For setting the db_multiblock_read_count, I suggest the Steve Adams script
multiblock_read_test.sql which, on my system, yielded 16 with a block size of 8K.
For the optimizer settings, I used the Tim Gorman recommendations from
http://www.evdbt.com/SearchIntelligenceCBO.doc which, on my
April,
I have been fighting this since installing 8.1.7 on windoze. I do an shutdown
immediate in my backup script and then it will hang forever periodically. I have not
had a solution suggested that has worked. Hope you get better results than I. Are
you on windoze also? I know that
Hi Guys,
I need to put one hour back for my OS(aix) So How will my database(7.3)
handle this?? What steps I have to take?? Any light regarding that??
Thanks in advance
peter.
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Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger:
Checking the FM (Oracle 9i Backup and Recovery
Concepts). Page 4-16 gives a high level overview of
the principles and Oracle 9i User Managed Backup and
Recovery, chapter 4 gives a detailed description.
Scenario
-
Loss of one or more datafiles (NOT SYSTEM)
In archivelog mode
Database
You have to restore the tablespace with the datafile you want to restore to
a clone database and export the datafile's contents from the clone and
import it into the database with the bad datafile.
HTH,
R
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Hey all,
Finally have installed STATSPACK on 8.1.7.2.0, but am disappointed at the
archaic two-lines-per-row 80-columns in spreport.sql.
Anyone have any links to some report SQL that formats STATSPACK reports a
little better? I'll probably use TOAD for my usage, but I'll take anything
to
that Rachel - what a gal!
PS - -- - That Barbara, what a suck-up! :)
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Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 1:04 PM
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Hm.
these are almost verbatim the instructions I got from Rachel Charmichael
after we lost a disk drive and I'd
For the GUI-challenged... Hopefully Oracle will offer a class on OEM new
features with a certification test on OEM... Probably only a $2000 package
and Oracle will market this so headhunters will require OEM button clicking
certification before granting an interview.
Feeling better now.
Perhaps that would be a better way of putting it.
RF
Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
Oracle Database Architect
CSX Midtier Database Administration
Author
Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (Oracle Press - Oct 2002)
Oracle9i New Features (Oracle Press)
Mastering Oracle8i (Sybex)
Clark Griswold:
The interview (exerpts from some of my actual ones, and then some made up)
We are in my cube. I've studied the resume for Mr. Morias, who is a
Portuguese national who's degree is from University who's name I can't
pronounce and who's credentials I can't verify. He is a brand new OCP.
Me: Good
OY, what a cludge!!
Dick Goulet
Reply Separator
Author: Dharminder Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 7/22/2002 8:58 AM
As I was trying to get this scenario worked out, so here is what I have done
to get this combination working. I deinstalled the
Peter,
If you want to be obsessive-compulsive safe, shutdown the database.
Otherwise update the system clock and don't worry about it. Our HP-UX boxes do
that every spring all by themselves. Haven't had a database problem yet.
Dick Goulet
Reply
Bug is fixed in 9.0.1.3 (or was it .2, I forget), and is not present in 9.2
(9iR2).
A backport for 9.0.1.1 is available as I recall.
Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
Oracle Database Architect
CSX Midtier Database Administration
Author
Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (Oracle Press - Oct 2002)
There is no EMN0 process out there TO kill... that is what concerns me.
There are also no user connections (haven't had the listener started in a
while... it is (so far) for user testing patches, and we haven't had any
patches since we got TEST.
Quite honestly I like your solution better than
It might mean that you are not a fun dataRuth
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Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 2:03 PM
Caffeine calms down hyperactive people, it's one of the symptoms for that
condition.
As for me, beer puts me to sleep.
Ruth,
Excuse me, but how is that going to fix the bad datafile?
Dick Goulet
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Author: Ruth Gramolini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 7/22/2002 10:13 AM
You have to restore the tablespace with the datafile you want to restore to
a clone
OH MY GOD, someone remembers what I said? thank goodness it worked.
I've learned that my first, panicked reaction is almost invariably, if
not wrong, certainly not the best way to fix something. Taking time to
THINK instead of jumping in and mucking about is usually best.
you can now see how
Why, it simply means that appearances are everything at M$. Let's read it carefully:
Our strategy has never changed -- i.e., our consultants have always been your foe.
but, it sure looked that way -- i.e., our customers started seeing our consultants
as foes.
diaslignment between our
OMG! A Socialist in the group!
I believe that if we think about these things in a way that we ask
ourselves how can I maximize the potential of this person in our
organization, pay him/her a fair wage for what they can do, and free up my
time to address the really gnarly stuff we can help
um no, I mean they are redoing it AGAIN
I love Oracle, it provides me with an ever and ever steeper learning
curve
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YUP, Saw the new version at an Oracle event in Boston a couple of
months ago.
Seems that nothing is sacred anymore. BTW: Installer
You better believe it!!!
next time I've been up a gazillion hours and I'm begging for help, I want
the goddess to think kindly of me.
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From: Mercadante, Thomas F[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 12:08 PM
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Peter,
Doesn't matter.
Only if you are using Oracle Jobs does the time make any difference -
because some jobs will lose their minds when the time changes. Same thing
with any cron jobs - I would disable them before you change the time.
Within Oracle itself, time is not important. All
Coffee in the moring for me gives me a boost.
Coffee in the afternoon/evening puts me to sleep.
You're a psycho/No I'm Not!
Tom (splitting personalities) Mercadante
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Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 2:29 PM
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And coffee is WAY
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