RE: building a reporting database

2003-11-20 Thread C.S.Venkata Subramanian
Hi All,I have been working with client, where the refresh of the reporting instance is happening every 12 hrs due to business needs. This process is very well defined and the users are very happy. Even the concurrent requests are xfr to new reporting instance. I would take it offline and the

Re: FW: SAN configuration for Banner

2003-11-20 Thread Paul Drake
Jared, I would have preferred RAID 10, and that is what I has asked for, but did not apparently receive. I've lost RAID 01 volumes due to a failure of 2 drives, where a RAID 10 volume would have survived. This reminds me of a crowded flight I took where I read reading an OCP study guide. The 2

VNI-2015 : The Node preferred credentials

2003-11-20 Thread VirVit
Hello! I have two win2000 servers with two oracle databases one by one on each of them. Both servers has VirVit user in Administrator and ORA_DBA group. In OEM Preferred credentials are set correctly (observing register). So, why I got this error??? VNI-2015 : The Node preferred credentials for

Re: ** find whether table or index being accessed

2003-11-20 Thread Tanel Poder
Yep, I missed this userenv part totally, even though I posted the source here myself as well. Gotta get better eyes from somewhere ;) Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 5:10 PM Tanel, Raj must be

Re: Local connect to database (default connection)

2003-11-20 Thread Tanel Poder
Set either ORACLE_SID or LOCAL to your default SID in either Windows environment variables or registry. The general difference between ORACLE_SID and LOCAL is that, with ORACLE_SID you can specify only instances in local server, but with LOCAL you can set any TNS alias (the same as TWO_TASK in

Re: VNI-2015 : The Node preferred credentials

2003-11-20 Thread Tanel Poder
Grant Logon as Batch Job Windows privilege to your Administrator user. Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:19 AM Hello! I have two win2000 servers with two oracle databases one by one on each of

Re: unix question

2003-11-20 Thread jo_holvoet
Something our Unix admins tend to do is move the files along different directories. E.g. they start in dir1; after succesfull backup, move them to dir2, etc. and after succesfull backup in dir4 delete them. So they should always get backed up 4 times even if you miss a run. Of course your backup

RE: RE: OCP 9i New Features for DBAs

2003-11-20 Thread Dunscombe, Chris
Ryan, I took my exam yesterday and passed!! I used the Oracle Press - OCP Oracle 9i Database: New Features for Administrators Exam Guide book. Even though there are a number of inaccuracies it was good preparation especially the sample exams it provides. Regarding 9.2 vs 9.0 content in the exam

Re: Database Health Template-OT

2003-11-20 Thread Yechiel Adar
Paula We are working with OEM that come with Oracle 9.0.1 (upgrade to 9.2.0.4 if the next week - hopefully). We are working with the repository with no problems. I defined a query that collect tablespace size and % free. I just now used the OEM to display a chart and prepare HTML report of this

Re: RE: Any articles/books that take relational theory and make it

2003-11-20 Thread ryan_oracle
how does dimensional modelling used by datawarehousing fit into relational theory? From: Daniel Hanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/11/19 Wed PM 04:35:03 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Any articles/books that take relational theory and make it

RE: FW: SAN configuration for Banner

2003-11-20 Thread Niall Litchfield
Title: Message Hmm The small print on compaqSANS specifically states that you shouldn't pull drives 'for testing purposes' but only do itin the event of a drive failure. I wonder if other vendors say the same thing to avoid exactly this stuff. Mind you however I think of itI still

RE: SAN configuration for Banner

2003-11-20 Thread Niall Litchfield
Title: Message Hi I *think* but I may have entirely misread the comment that point 4 is just wrong. It sounds like you only have one raid 5 set (which is shared between 2 machines). If this is the case then the clustering has no effect on the fault tolerance/performance of the raid 5 set.

Re: Multimaster replication as alternative backup

2003-11-20 Thread Yechiel Adar
Verification was easy. We just powered down the primary machine, changed the db name in the external table, drop the replication on the backup server and restart the application. Everything worked fine. After 2-3 days, over the weekend, we rebuilt the replication again. Yechiel Adar Mehish -

Re: _wait_for_sync , dirty buffer flushing and direct reads in parallel query

2003-11-20 Thread Anjo Kolk
_wait_for_sync basically meant that a session is waiting for the sync of the redo by the lgwr. Normally the redo log writer writes to disk and then notifies the session that the transaction is completed. By setting this to false, you no longer wait for the redo to go to disk. That has no impact

Re: v$bh.class#

2003-11-20 Thread Anjo Kolk
This one is easy: look in v$waitstat. That has the class numbers for all block classes. Then add to that the undo segments. Each undo segment has two types of class. A undo header class and undo block class. So by looking at v$waitstat you should be able to tell that 36 is a undo block that

RE: Database Health Template-OT

2003-11-20 Thread waibals
Hi Shibu- Can we share your template so as to be able to fill in the gaps, and also get an idea of what you think a healthy DB should be like? CSW Simon. -Original Message- Shibu MB Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 4:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all,

Re: RE: what is in the CGA?

2003-11-20 Thread Anjo Kolk
Oracle has its own heap management, which will call sbrk(). So there used to be no malloc() function call. I think that it is a combination (ll and da). Anjo. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 3:29 PM my

orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread ryan_oracle
I was at an Oracle usergroup meeting last week and a guy at Oracle said the following happened. Can anyone confirm? Just curious. 1. Orbitz did an upgrade to some software other than Oracle. I think it was firmware. They did NOT test it first. Did it directly in production. 2. This corrupted a

Re: Re: _wait_for_sync , dirty buffer flushing and direct reads in parallel

2003-11-20 Thread Tanel Poder
Anjo, I also thought it affects only lgwr sync, but Jonathan Lewis once told that it affects any disk writes... If it affects only lgwr, then great, I can make Apps upgrades, which do really lots of DDLs and small transactions, quite much faster that way... Thank you, Tanel. _wait_for_sync

RE: OFA and RAC on raw devices

2003-11-20 Thread Muqthar Ahmed
Gilles, What about the OFA admin subtree (create, pfile, udump,bdump..) ? Did you duplicate it on each node ? Each node will have its own ADMIN subtree (/u01/app/oracle/admin/prod/). Make sure the following parameters are configured in INIT.ORA file: # First instance specific parameters

Re: Re: _wait_for_sync , dirty buffer flushing and direct reads in parallel

2003-11-20 Thread Anjo Kolk
Well, some disk writes need to wait for the LGWR to flush the corresponding redo to disk. So now you can have a situation that the blocks that are dirty are on disk (without a commited transaction) but the redo is not yet. So if you crash in that period, you can't recover. Anjo. - Original

Re: Re: _wait_for_sync , dirty buffer flushing and direct reads in parallel

2003-11-20 Thread Yong Huang
Tanel, Did you observe better performance? By how much? Do please let us know! From what I read, _wait_for_sync when set to false means LGWR immediately notifies user (foreground) processes that redo record writes are done (even though they're not). When you say the parameter only affects LGWR,

RE: orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread Jesse, Rich
Wow. Restoring a control file from tape for this situation? Man, that's not just wrong, it's fundamentally wrong. At a high-profile site that must have Gold Support (or whatever they're calling it today), if this is true someone was really not thinking that day. Kinda interesting about the

Re: Re: _wait_for_sync , dirty buffer flushing and direct reads in parallel

2003-11-20 Thread Yong Huang
The message I posted a minute ago may be wrong in one aspect. From what I read, _wait_for_sync when set to false means LGWR immediately notifies user (foreground) processes that redo record writes are done (even though they're not). When you say the parameter only affects LGWR, you need to

Re: orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread Joe Testa
oracle support has a bit to be desired somedays, sceanario: someone(CE) accidentally makes the prod SAN, a scratch pool instead of the new SAN. Literally wipes it clean, think of fdisk like. get OS reloaded, oracle binaries reloaded, need to do restore/recovery via rman, repository wasted

Re: orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread Tanel Poder
I don't know whether this is true or not, but this case written here shows exactly why RAC does not give you real high availability, the database itself remains single point of failure. Tanel. I was at an Oracle usergroup meeting last week and a guy at Oracle said the following happened.

Re: Re: _wait_for_sync , dirty buffer flushing and direct reads in parallel

2003-11-20 Thread Yong Huang
I think my understanding was wrong. _wait_for_sync actually only changes the behavior of foreground processes. When set to false, they don't wait for LGWR to write redo records to disk; instead they continue to do their work as if log file sync already finished. It *does not* change any behavior

Using miss-spelled hint changes explain plan ...

2003-11-20 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: Using miss-spelled hint changes explain plan ... Okay, I found this by accident ... I was trying to get explain plan on a query that involved a in-line-query that selects from financials database. This in-line query was alias'd as A. Current cost of query was ~2800. So, to test

Re: Re: Re: _wait_for_sync , dirty buffer flushing and direct reads in parallel

2003-11-20 Thread Tanel Poder
:) I admit, that I don't know either, which processes are affected by this parameter. If foreground ones are, that should mean that after posting lgwr, they won't wait on semaphore and continue their work. If it affects lgwr, it means that lgwr posts the waiting processes immediately back

Re: Re: Re: _wait_for_sync , dirty buffer flushing and direct reads in parallel

2003-11-20 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! Yup, I was bold enough to use this parameter during production upgrade only because it worked well in several tests and simulations. Cheers, Tanel. Well, some disk writes need to wait for the LGWR to flush the corresponding redo to disk. So now you can have a situation that the

NT/WINDOWS 2000 resources for ORACLE

2003-11-20 Thread M Rafiq
Hi, In coming weeks I have to work on a project to Support Oracle databases on NT/Windows 2000. I have unix background supporting Oracle adatbases on a smaller scale hence not much skill was rqquired. I shall appreciate your guidance/experience to point right resources for NT/Windows 2000

Re: Any articles/books that take relational theory and make it english?

2003-11-20 Thread david davis
I have not read through the entire thing but from what I have seen so far, I like Data Modeling for Everyone by Sharon Allen (CurlingStome Publishing) ISBN 1904347002. It covers the theory to the implementation (Logical - Physical transformation). From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL

IOT Tuning Question

2003-11-20 Thread Jay Wade
Hello: I'm looking at trying to tune a 3rd party app and was wondering if anyone could tell me if my assumptions are on base. The table contains three columns, each is part of the primary key, with about 1 million + rows. I figured that it would be an ideal candidate for using a partitioned

Re: Re: Re: _wait_for_sync , dirty buffer flushing and direct reads in parallel

2003-11-20 Thread Tanel Poder
Tanel, Did you observe better performance? By how much? Do please let us know! Oracle Apps upgrade between major releases involves running hundreds of thousands scripts in bigger cases. Some of there scripts execute bigger transactions, but majority execute lots of small transactions and

RE: orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread Goulet, Dick
The Orbitz fiasco and what happen was up on Public radio here about a week after the mess. They interviewed the CIO who sounded like a trusting soul looking to get screwed. According to her, she was informed it was a database problem by her smart people. I therefore would conclude that

RE: orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread Loughmiller, Greg
Title: RE: orbitz fiasco On my Soapbox My expensive free advice RAC *can* provide a higher level of availability. It isn't the complete answer, but offers a level of improvement. But one needs to consider the complete infrastructure for high availability(Web servers, app servers, db servers,

Re: RE: orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread Tanel Poder
RE: orbitz fiasco On my Soapbox My expensive free advice RAC *can* provide a higher level of availability. It isn't the complete answer, but offers a level of improvement. But one needs to consider the complete infrastructure for high availability(Web servers, app servers, db servers,

Re: Re: _wait_for_sync , dirty buffer flushing and direct reads in parallel

2003-11-20 Thread Anjo Kolk
The infamous event log file syncwill basically disapear. So you can see what this does to the system, by looking v$system_event to see how much log file sync there is. Anjo. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20,

RE: Using miss-spelled hint changes explain plan ...

2003-11-20 Thread Caldwell, Robert A
Title: Using miss-spelled hint changes explain plan ... If you miss-spell a hint,it is ignored. select /*+ FULL (PERSON) */ full_name from person where emplid = '123456'; Execution Plan-- 0 SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=56

Re: Any articles/books that take relational theory and make it

2003-11-20 Thread KENNETH JANUSZ
Unfortunately according to Amazon.com this book is out of print. Ken Janusz, CPIM - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 8:40 AM Data Modeling Essentials by Graeme C Simsion is a very good book. American

Error Using generic connectivity

2003-11-20 Thread Shiva Maran
Hi All, We are trying to access SQL Server data from oracle database. Am trying to use Oracle Generic connectivity for the same. When I try to access the SQL Server table through the link I get the error ORA-2854: error diagnosed by Net8 when connecting to an agent NCRO: Failed to make RSLV

RE: IOT Tuning Question

2003-11-20 Thread Stephane Faroult
Jay, On the paper, your table is indeed a good candidate for an IOT - it will save you the space used by the table (you will only have the primary key index). However, there may be gotchas. I have noticed in the past that IOTs, being primarily indices, have a tendency to be a bit 'sticky'

RE: Using miss-spelled hint changes explain plan ...

2003-11-20 Thread Khedr, Waleed
Title: Using miss-spelled hint changes explain plan ... Did you see any changes in the Execution plan? Waleed -Original Message-From: Jamadagni, Rajendra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 10:20 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject:

Re: NT/WINDOWS 2000 resources for ORACLE

2003-11-20 Thread david davis
Just moving from HPUX with Oracle 7.3.4 to Win2K with Oracle 9i EE and 9iAS. 1) Connectivity Tools? I am using PCAnywhere. Actually did a remote install and avoided the hassles getting through security at the host site. (Server support uses Terminal Server). 2) NT administration

RE: Using miss-spelled hint changes explain plan ...

2003-11-20 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: Using miss-spelled hint changes explain plan ... Yes, see my latest reply ... please. Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. QOTD: Any

RE: RE: orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Was this on AIX by any chance ?? Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art ! -Original

Re: Re: Re: _wait_for_sync , dirty buffer flushing and direct reads in parallel

2003-11-20 Thread Anjo Kolk
The foreground process is affected. Instead of waiting for the LGWR, it will return right away. Anjo. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 4:24 PM in parallel :) I admit, that I don't know either, which

RE: RE: orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread Jesse, Rich
The only thing high about 9.0.1 was the people who installed it to use in production. My 12-step process is now completed. And I didn't even mention OiD once. :) Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex,

Re: RE: RE: orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread Tanel Poder
Nope, TRU64 Tanel. Was this on AIX by any chance ?? Raj -- -- Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an

Re: Re: Any articles/books that take relational theory and make it

2003-11-20 Thread ryan_oracle
there are used copies for sale right on there. From: KENNETH JANUSZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/11/20 Thu AM 11:20:15 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Any articles/books that take relational theory and make it Unfortunately according to

Re: orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread Bill Buchan
At 05:40 20/11/2003 -0800, you wrote: 3. However, they chose to restore the control file from tape. This invalidated their database. Maybe I'm missing the obvious, but why does this invalidate their database? Don't you just do RECOVER DATABASE USING BACKUP CONTROLFILE ? (Agreed that it would

RE: RE: orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread ryan_oracle
the guy who spoke from oracle said that 9.2 is much better than 9.0.1 RAC. anyone use it? From: Jesse, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/11/20 Thu PM 12:19:59 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RE: orbitz fiasco The only thing high about 9.0.1

RE: SAN configuration for Banner

2003-11-20 Thread Sam Bootsma
Title: Message Hi I agree with you on point 4 and the SA here also confirms that the Manager has his facts wrong on this point. I havent seen much here in terms of quantitative measurement of IO I can ask around. Id like to do DBA work, but they have me working on an Data

RE: RE: orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread Murali_Pavuloori/Claritas
we implemented RAC (not me personally --but my predecessors) It did not work for us. Oracle RAC does not support TAF for sessions coming through dblinks.(Yes verified this with Oracle product development). But that is a application architecture issue. If your app does not require this feature, I

RE: FW: SAN configuration for Banner

2003-11-20 Thread Jared . Still
According to a post in this subject several months ago ( from Cary Millsap I believe ) the storage vendors have huge investment in RAID 5 code, and therefor want to push it as much as possible. Jared Niall Litchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/20/2003 04:44 AM Please

RE: Any articles/books that take relational theory and make it

2003-11-20 Thread Paul Baumgartel
Hear, hear! pb --- Michael Milligan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Date is want to say, Theory is practical! (Chapter One, Relational Database Writings 1991-1994). IMHO, a lack of understanding of relational database theory leads directly to database designs so flawed that they can't

RE: RE: OCP 9i New Features for DBAs

2003-11-20 Thread Jared . Still
Chris, Care to share details on the inaccuracies? Jared Dunscombe, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/20/2003 02:44 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: RE: OCP 9i New

RE: Any articles/books that take relational theory and make it

2003-11-20 Thread Paula_Stankus
Why in an IT shop - do us DBA's only seem to understand this? As I see it most programmers don't understanding data models at all! It makes it easier for them to ignore the DBA's as being theoretical, academic -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 1:30 PM To:

Re: RE: Any articles/books that take relational theory and make it

2003-11-20 Thread Daniel Hanks
Well, Pascal has this to say about it: http://www.dbdebunk.com/page/page/622521.htm (This also links to some comments by Date on some articles by Ralph Kimball). What it comes down to for me is this, the relational model provides a way (by being based on set theory and predicate logic) to

Oracle Magazine Awards

2003-11-20 Thread Jared . Still
Congratulations to the following folks that appeared in the 2003 Editors Choice Awards ( I finally received my issue of the mag ) Arup Nanda - DBA of the Year Tony Jambu - Consultant of the Year Mogens Nogaard - Educator of the Year Tom Kyte - Oracle Book Author of the Year There were many

RE: RE: orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread Yong Huang
Murali, Could you point us to a document about the TAF and database link issue? Thanks. Yong Huang --- Murali_Pavuloori/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we implemented RAC (not me personally --but my predecessors) It did not work for us. Oracle RAC does not support TAF for sessions coming through

RAC == TAF not supported for sessions coming through db links.

2003-11-20 Thread Murali_Pavuloori/Claritas
Yong, That is the problem. It is not documented. I think that is the reason why we went down that path of designing our application. I have an email from oracle rep (RAC team member). He confirmed that with Oracle product development. We were running RAC on Tru 64. I was told that it is an

RE: Oracle Magazine Awards

2003-11-20 Thread Surendra . Tirumala
Congratulations to all the award winners! Btw, do they get any cash awards or just a piece of paper? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 2:05 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Oracle Magazine

RE: RE: orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread Jesse, Rich
Yes. We have a 9.2.0.4 test system based on the How to Build a $1000 RAC whitepaper (www.bradmark.com/site2/products/pdfs/9irac_config.pdf), although we spent about $1100. After much ado about everything, it's been up and running on RH9 for almost a month uninterrupted (would've been 2 or 3

RE: Using miss-spelled hint changes explain plan ...

2003-11-20 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
Me wonders if the optimizer ignores all the hints after the first misspelled/malformed one. What happens if you change the order of the hints: FROM (SELECT /*+ INDEX(C PF_EVENTS_N2) INDEX(G PF_ACCOUNTS_U2) ORDERED driving_site(a) */ and FROM (SELECT /*+ INDEX(C PF_EVENTS_N2) INDEX(G

Re: Oracle Magazine Awards

2003-11-20 Thread Yong Huang
Just a congratulations is nothing. For one, Arup should tell us the secret of achieving the .03 second transaction goal on a 7-terabyte OLTP database. How is that done? What advice can he give? Yong Huang --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Congratulations to the following folks that appeared in the

RE: Oracle Magazine Awards

2003-11-20 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Sometimes Peer recognition is more important that pitiful cash. Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having

RE: Any articles/books that take relational theory and make it

2003-11-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Paula - It may get worse. A noted O-O author said a database is just a means to persist an object. I also see a lot of young developers that haven't taken much Computer Science, so haven't been exposed to underlying theories like relational modeling. Well, we DBAs just have to be lights shining

RE: Using miss-spelled hint changes explain plan ...

2003-11-20 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
BINGO !! Thanks Wolfgang if I put the misspelled hint at the end, it is ignored ... all plans look the same then. Another (probably) undocumented feature. Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All

RE: RE: orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
We have been production on 9202 for a while and testing 9204. Our experience is good ... we run active-active. Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly

Re: Oracle Magazine Awards

2003-11-20 Thread Mladen Gogala
No, I prefer the pitiful cash. You take the recognition, I'll take the money and run. On 2003.11.20 14:50, Jamadagni, Rajendra wrote: Sometimes Peer recognition is more important that pitiful cash. Raj

ora-600 / ora-00604 during migrate

2003-11-20 Thread Jeroen van Sluisdam
Hi, I'm experiencing an ora-600 during migration of a 7.3.4 to 9.2.0.4 Error occurs during issueing alter database open resetlogs migrate All previous steps (all according to the migrate manual): Migprep Mig Alter database convert Succeeded successfully Details: HP-UX 11.11

Re: RE: Any articles/books that take relational theory and make it

2003-11-20 Thread ryan_oracle
which noted O-O author said that about DBs? From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/11/20 Thu PM 02:59:58 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Any articles/books that take relational theory and make it Paula - It may get worse. A noted

RE: RE: orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread ryan_oracle
what is TAF? From: Jesse, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/11/20 Thu PM 02:45:19 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RE: orbitz fiasco Yes. We have a 9.2.0.4 test system based on the How to Build a $1000 RAC whitepaper

RE: RE: orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread Jesse, Rich
OK, that's what I get for not R'ing all TFMs before opening my mouth -- is active-active Oracle RAC-based failover as opposed to OS-based failover? Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA

RE: RE: orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread Jesse, Rich
Transparent Aluminum Failover. Whoops -- that's Application if you're not in Star Trek IV... Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003

RE: ora-600 / ora-00604 during migrate

2003-11-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Jeroen - What priority did Oracle assign the TAR? Given the seriousness of your situation, you should get it rated a priority 1. Is there any possibility you can export/import your data instead of performing a migration? Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original

RE: RE: orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread Niall Litchfield
2 interesting comments on RAC from a well known financial institution in the UK. 1. They didn't do TAF because it requires rewrites of the apps (and this was a cost saving exercise) and in any case if one node fails the affected end-users look at their neighbours who are still working (on

RE: ora-600 / ora-00604 during migrate

2003-11-20 Thread Jeroen van Sluisdam
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Jeroen van Sluisdam Verzonden: donderdag 20 november 2003 21:41 Aan: 'DENNIS WILLIAMS'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Onderwerp: RE: ora-600 / ora-00604 during migrate Dennnis, Priority 2. I have tried export but after 3 days of experimenting And not getting

RE: NT/WINDOWS 2000 resources for ORACLE

2003-11-20 Thread Niall Litchfield
Comments interleaved -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M Rafiq Sent: 20 November 2003 15:45 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: NT/WINDOWS 2000 resources for ORACLE Hi, In coming weeks I have to work on a project

Re: html output

2003-11-20 Thread Pete Finnigan
Hi You can use the htp and htf packages and owa_util to generate HTML around your queries and send to a file using utl_file. You can also use sqlplus to generate html around your queries, just look at the -M option. kind regards Pete -- Pete Finnigan email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site:

RE: RE: orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
I don't think so ... by active-active I mean we have clients connected on both nodes performing transactions. One some databases we have TAF implemented in the code, so if client looses connection to one node, it immediately reconnects to the other node (and in most cases users don't know). I

RE: Oracle Magazine Awards

2003-11-20 Thread Loughmiller, Greg
Title: RE: Oracle Magazine Awards Cash is King Give the guy the pitiful cash:-) Now you need to setup a donation website;-) -Original Message- From: Mladen Gogala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:

Re: Oracle Magazine Awards

2003-11-20 Thread Tanel Poder
YOU may send the winners some cash Tanel. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:24 PM Subject: RE: Oracle Magazine Awards Congratulations to all the award winners!

Re: _wait_for_sync , dirty buffer flushing and direct reads in parallel

2003-11-20 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! It seems that my post of performance gain by setting the parameter has got lost somewhere. Anyway, a step in Oracle Apps upgrade process, which involved running about 3 scripts (probably more than 10 DDLs and commits in it), ran about 3-4 hours, while without this optimization, it ran

Re: RE: orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread Tanel Poder
we implemented RAC (not me personally --but my predecessors) It did not work for us. Oracle RAC does not support TAF for sessions coming through dblinks.(Yes verified this with Oracle product development). But that is a application architecture issue. If your app does not require this

RE: RE: orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread Niall Litchfield
Transparent application failover. You can redo your code so that it is rac aware and switches to another node in the event of a node failure. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 November 2003 20:21 To:

insert/read Blob from a table

2003-11-20 Thread Basavaraja, Ravindra
Hi , Does anyone have a sample code to insert/update/delete a BLOB into a table from a stored procedure. Thanks -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Basavaraja, Ravindra INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051

RE: Oracle Magazine Awards

2003-11-20 Thread Surendra . Tirumala
Sorry, I don't have that much "pitiful cash" :) -Original Message-From: Tanel Poder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 4:26 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: Oracle Magazine Awards YOU may send the winners some cash Tanel.

Re: NT/WINDOWS 2000 resources for ORACLE

2003-11-20 Thread Tanel Poder
Its windows - its all clicky clicky clicky - no skill required :( Yeah, I tried to install a two-node Data Guard setup today - and go the easy way and use OEM GUI. I ended up with digging into intelligent agent traces and sniffing the network traffic to figure out why the fck doesn't anything

RE: ora-600 / ora-00604 during migrate

2003-11-20 Thread Igor Neyman
What was wrong with export? How big the database is? Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Jeroen van Sluisdam Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Jeroen van Sluisdam Verzonden:

RE: Oracle Magazine Awards

2003-11-20 Thread Paula_Stankus
We do - we have bought their books!! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 4:50 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Oracle Magazine Awards Sorry, I don't have that much "pitiful cash" :)

Re: _wait_for_sync , dirty buffer flushing and direct reads in parallel

2003-11-20 Thread Mladen Gogala
The _disable_logging parameter was invented by oracle to counter speed claims of the databases which did not have such thing as logging (first version of Informix, Sybase Ingres) and which was known in the mainframe world as journaling (in the version 51.22, this feature was known as AIJ or

RE: Oracle Magazine Awards

2003-11-20 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
And also an increase in the price ot their Oracle license. ;o) Dave -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 1:25 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Oracle Magazine Awards Congratulations

RE: FW: SAN configuration for Banner

2003-11-20 Thread Matthew Zito
Title: Message One of the issues in this situation is that the drive sleds usually have circuitry in them to insure electrical isolation and that oncea disk is marked as dead, the disk is spun down and kept from placing any traffic onto the backend bus. When a disk is just pulled, problems

RE: Why compiling pkg hangs???

2003-11-20 Thread JayMiller
You can also check v$access and v$session for any active sessions accessing that package. Jay Miller -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 5:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This was discussed on 31-October and look in the archives

Re: RE: OCP 9i New Features for DBAs

2003-11-20 Thread Tanel Poder
Yeah, tell me, too! I'm about to teach a 5-day course for passing OCP in January. Don't mind if I post completely inaccurate answers to this list at this time, I just have to change my way of thinking for then ;) Tanel. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

RE: FW: SAN configuration for Banner

2003-11-20 Thread Matthew Zito
Well, it depends on how you mean a SAN - technically, all of the TPC-C benchmarks use a SAN, as they're using a switched fabric fibre channel architecture. Now, they're not using the big honking array type of SAN, but its a meshed Fibre Channel fabric regardless. In a small SAN, there's no

RE: RE: orbitz fiasco

2003-11-20 Thread Matthew Zito
Yeah, there's basically the inherent RAC clustering - when a node dies, another one takes over responsibility for recovery of its redo logs and so-such. The cluster software prevents a node from magically rejoining the cluster if it suddenly comes back (think of stop-a on a sun server, followed

RE: NT/WINDOWS 2000 resources for ORACLE

2003-11-20 Thread Jared . Still
Performance measurement on windows is done via a tool called perfmon, which works on a 'counters' basis. That is you add 'counters' which are performance metrics to the tool and display the results on screen or write them to a log for later analysis. Counters include things like %CPU,

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