9i Automatic UNDO bugs

2002-05-06 Thread Daniel Fink
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re: how to put ' on statement

2002-05-06 Thread Daniel Fink
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Re: Oracle releases by the different platforms...

2003-06-17 Thread Daniel Fink
Greg, The pattern with 9i was Solaris and HP-UX first, Windows next (seemed to be delayed several months), then Linux. Dan Fink Loughmiller, Greg wrote: does anyone have a reasonable idea about which Hardware platforms and their order that Oracle releases the RDBMS??? For example,

Re: ORA-01555 with Automatic Undo Management mode

2003-06-18 Thread Daniel Fink
is read-only guarantees that all data contained within has been committed. This solution was suggested to me by a very wise member of the list, so it is worth a try. Daniel Fink BTW, AUM is not a requirement for Flashback Query. However, it is the only configuration Oracle will support for FBQ

Re: Partitions of table read only

2003-06-18 Thread Daniel Fink
Rachel, It is not active transactions against that tablespace, it is active transactions. Yup, period! As soon as all the active transactions complete, the tablespace will complete altering itself. Dan Rachel Carmichael wrote: there WERE no active transactions against that

Re: Partitions of table read only

2003-06-19 Thread Daniel Fink
, there is an after-update trigger that updates tableB in the RO tablespace. Will Oracle know this at the PARSE phase? Daniel Fink Mark Richard wrote: I think Daniel covered this when he mentioned that a transaction can consist of many statements - some of which Oracle may not yet be aware of. Until a user

Re: memory swapping and rollback

2003-06-19 Thread Daniel Fink
to write sort runs to disk (temporary tablespace). Is this what they mean by swapping? The best approach (IMHO) is to go back to the critics and ask for more detailed information, including the logic and scenarios describing the logic. Daniel Fink David Turner wrote: I was presenting

Re: copy a datafile to a raw device

2003-06-19 Thread Daniel Fink
think you will have to recreate the database (since it is the system tablespace). If it were another tablespace, I think you could get by with just recreating the tablespace. Daniel Fink -Original Message- From: Gurelei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:55

Re: Look's like Larry's at it again...

2003-06-20 Thread Daniel Fink
I figured he try for something closer to home...say Oragon? Then Bill would want to buy Mississippi (postal abreviation MS for our non-us listers). Jesse, Rich wrote: Oracle Makes Bid to Buy State of Delaware Software giant willing to assume state's $225 million deficit in exchange for

Re: Thanks!! What are the type#'s in obj$ ?

2003-06-24 Thread Daniel Fink
Another thing to consider is that the object id may be needed for recovery/rollback/read consistency purposes. The object id is one of the fields kept in the undo record. I presume this is for a sanity check to make certain that the undo is being applied to the right object. I wonder if the

Re: SELECT Output Default Ordering ?

2003-06-25 Thread Daniel Fink
It depends on the access path and any other implicit sorting. Access path - on a full table scan, the data is returned in the physical order it is stored in the object. An index scan will return the data sorted according to the rule of the index. Implicit sorting - distinct will cause an

10046 Trace file questions

2003-06-26 Thread Daniel Fink
I am reviewing a 10046 trace file and have come across several questions (actually more like hypothesis that I want to confirm). 1) The first user statement executed waits only on SQL*Net to/from client and does not wait on any db file activity. I presume this means that the data was found in

Re: Constant Date in SQL*Loader Control File

2003-06-26 Thread Daniel Fink
David, Have you tried removing the around the TO_DATE call? The indicate a character string and Oracle is unable to translate that string into something acceptable for a DATE datatype. David Lewandowski wrote: Thanks Lisa. But regrettably my LOADDATE isn't always SYSDATE. Do you

Re: import from 8i to 9i /IMP-00003:ORA-02298

2003-07-08 Thread Daniel Fink
Run the following command after both tables are loaded and the constraint is not enabled select vs_off_sysid from cms.twesvs where vs_off_sysid not in (select of_off_sysid from cms.twesof); [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I am sure. Just to make sure, I have compared the counts from export

Re: import from 8i to 9i /IMP-00003:ORA-02298

2003-07-09 Thread Daniel Fink
When all else fails... Log a TAR with Oracle Sit back and wait, while enjoying a few belts of quality Kentucky sipping Bourbon Read through the phone book and locate all the Ursulas in the greater Frankfort area...begin:vcard n:Fink;Daniel tel;cell:303.808.3282 tel;work:303.272.3225

Re: ROWNUM is driving me nuts - queries suggested produced no results

2003-07-09 Thread Daniel Fink
Each row that is retrieved from the database that matches the WHERE condition is placed in a result set. The sequence within the result set is the value in the pseudocolumn ROWNUM. If Oracle is using a full-table scan, the first row of the first block is the first in the result set and is

Re: ROWNUM - Can the inner-outer idea be extended to an update?

2003-07-09 Thread Daniel Fink
IF you are looking to break up the update into more 'manageable' pieces, here is a thought... UPDATE EMP2 SET GENDER = 'F' WHERE GENDER = ' ' AND ROWNUM = 100; UPDATE EMP2 SET GENDER = 'F' WHERE GENDER = ' ' AND ROWNUM = 100; *Since the first 100 records have already been updated, the second

Re: full usefullness of CURRENT OF ???

2003-07-11 Thread Daniel Fink
Repeat after me...readers never block writers...writers never block readers... The update will lock the row(s) of the result set, but it will not block anyone from reading the data. However, they may not read the modifications made by the update until it is committed. MaryAnn Atkinson wrote:

Re: oracle last

2003-07-14 Thread Daniel Fink
Depending upon the version, you may be able to use the analytical functions (8.1.6+) to achieve what you want. I don't have a ready example, but the Oracle docs are pretty good. If you want a less elegant solution, use an inline query, sort by the reverse order (asc or desc depends on your

Re: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles?

2003-07-15 Thread Daniel Fink
I'll agree with Rachel's methodology and add another consideration. Look at separating constraint indexes (primary keys, unique, perhaps even foreign keys) from performance indexes. If you find resource constraints on backups (time/disk), you can safely ignore the performance indexes. The

Re: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles

2003-07-15 Thread Daniel Fink
-aid solution, but it allowed us to focus on backing up the critical components successfully. Daniel Fink Mercadante, Thomas F wrote: I disagree with the concept of recovery not including some indexes because they can be rebuilt later. To me, that's like going to a gas station and only

Re: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles?

2003-07-15 Thread Daniel Fink
I may be way off base here, so any gurus please correct me with a gentle slap to the back of the head... Index and table access is not as simple as index entry..table row..index entry..table row..etc. I just ran a quick test (which may not be represntative and is using the primary key which

Re: inline views

2003-07-16 Thread Daniel Fink
In one case, the statement's execution plan used a nested loop, where it read the local table then probed the index on the remote table. This caused several million trips across the network to retrieve less than 10,000 records (IIRC). select local.cola, local.colb, remote.colc, remote.cold from

Re: DBMS_REPAIR Package

2003-07-17 Thread Daniel Fink
There's a good argument for separating tables/indexes. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you ran dbverify with the database up, it's very likely that there is nothing wrong with the datafiles. If dbv reads a block in transition, it will appear corrupt. Run it again, and there will either be

Re: Here comes Oracle10G

2003-07-17 Thread Daniel Fink
Kirtikumar Deshpande wrote: OracleWorld web sites SFO/PARIS revealing the new name as: Oracle10G Gee, it's not 'i' anymore ? Nope!! It's Capital G. G for God? No. It's Grid :) Enjoy.. - Kirti The first thing that comes to mind (as a commuter) is Grid...lock! I can see it now...New

10G

2003-07-18 Thread Daniel Fink
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Re: Empty String is interpreted as NULL

2003-07-18 Thread Daniel Fink
How about inserting 'NULL'? No, I am not kidding... The following is taken from an actual system... columnA has a NOT NULL constraint columnA has a CHECK constraint with a list of acceptable values, one of them is 'NULL' BTW, I don't recommend either approach. NULL has a special meaning to

Re: SHOW ERRORS not working

2003-07-21 Thread Daniel Fink
I don't think SHOW is a function that you will find in any of the Oracle db creation scripts. It is most likely part of the sql*plus program. The keyword SHOW can be used for a lot of things (USER and PARAMETER come to mind). Obviously, it reads some data structures, but I am sure it is not a

Re: HP-UX 11i/9.2.0.3/Strange Executions

2003-07-21 Thread Daniel Fink
Michael, When you say 'different execution plans', what are the differences? Is the choice in execution plans causing the ORA-07445? If so, why are the execution plans different (there has to be a reason)? Statistics, parameters, etc. will alter the execution plan choices. The

Re: HP-UX 11i/9.2.0.3/Strange Executions

2003-07-21 Thread Daniel Fink
Okay, so its Monday... What I meant to say is that are the queries with different execution plans the ones encountering 7445s. If there is a common thread in the execution plans (i.e. hash join instead of nested loops), then the hj may be triggering the 7445s. Actually, 10g will have a new

Re: SHOW ERRORS not working

2003-07-22 Thread Daniel Fink
SHOW PARAMETER performs a 'FIXED TABLE FULL' scan of x$ksppi and x$ksppcv. Exactly what I would expect. SHOW USER did not show up in the trace file, which tells me it is internal code path. SHOW ALL did the same. I think that the difference is that PARAMETERs are database level information,

Re: Please help with ORA-01555 Snapshot too old

2003-07-22 Thread Daniel Fink
Ron, Are the sizes of the data manipulated by the batch load the same? Is the db_block_size the same on each database? What is the size of the rbs during processing? What is the hwmsize, shrinks, extends from v$rollstat? You may be encountering a situation where

Re: Job to run first Wednesday

2003-07-22 Thread Daniel Fink
Jared, If you will closely examine the specs, the assumption is not documented. Therefore, the application code must take into account that the 1st Wednesday of the month may still be in the future. select CASE WHEN to_char(to_date('08/07/2003','MM/DD/'), 'DD') = 6 THEN

Timestamps in trace files

2003-07-22 Thread Daniel Fink
I was perusing a 10046 trace file and I noticed that timestamps are written to the trace file. Sometimes they were very regular (3 minutes apart give or take 30 seconds) while other times they were hours apart. I have noticed that two timestamps are never written without any intervening

Re: HP-UX 11i/9.2.0.3/Strange Executions

2003-07-22 Thread Daniel Fink
Metalink has a note that the INLIST ITERATOR may cause problems on certain platforms. That's about as much detail as it offers. I don't know the internal workings of II, but I suspect there is some sort of merging occuring after each (or all) iterations. Perhaps someone on the list can explain

Re: SQL question : How to retrieve the File_name without Directorie P

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Fink
Phillipe, Look at using INSTR and SUBSTR to calculate the position of the last / and work from there. Daniel NGUYEN Philippe (Cetelem) wrote: Hi Gurus! a very simple problem for You :I just want to retrieve the .dbf name from file_name column in dba_data_files. eg

Re: Timestamps in trace files

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Fink
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Fink Sent: 22. júlí 2003 21:19 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Timestamps in trace files I was perusing a 10046 trace file and I noticed that timestamps are written

Re: possible to set continuation prompt in sql*plus?

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Fink
Building on Jacques' solution, here is one that aligns all the statements nice and neat. Of course, it does not have the username/instance, so I don't know how acceptable it is select ' 1 ' as new_prompt from dual / set sqlprompt new_sqlprompt 1 select 1, 2 2, 3 3, 4 4,

Re: trace for error number

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Fink
David, This comes with the usual caveats (contact oracle support, don't do this without testing, some fading may occur, objects in the rear view mirror are larger than they appear)... On error dumps are pretty straight forward. If you can reproduce the error in a session, just

Re: convert RBS tablespace from DMT to LMT (Oracle 8173) steps?

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Fink
Oracle will not let you drop a rollback segment if there are active transactions using it. However, it will allow you to offline the segment and no new transactions can use it. I don't recall the exact status in v$rollstat, but I think it may say pending offline. As for the commit across

Re: Managing Archived Redo Logs

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Fink
As much as I hate to disagree with the DBA Goddess... The database will not HANG. A more appropriate term is that further processing is halted until it is able to archive the redo log before it begins to overwrite it. You will receive a message in the alert log, I don't recall the exact text,

Re: Timestamps in trace files (and other trace file oddities)

2003-07-24 Thread Daniel Fink
Henry, I'll make an attempt, but I am still learning a great deal about wait events and trace files. Cary, Mogens, Anjo, Tim, Jonathan, Wolfgang, et.al. are better authorities, so any corrections are very welcome. The time between waits is the elapsed time. If we equate elapsed

Re: Timestamps in trace files (and other trace file oddities)

2003-07-24 Thread Daniel Fink
is already reflected in the trace numbers.) There is something very strange hear but I don't know what. Might be an interesting case to track db/os relationships (running on AIX 4.3) Henry -Original Message- Daniel Fink Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:49 AM To: Multiple

Re: Timestamps in trace files (and other trace file oddities)

2003-07-24 Thread Daniel Fink
10046 Trace files are a peak into how an application and Oracle operate. In looking at one generated by a web server, I identified that the application (user) was sorting to a temporary tablespace that was dictionary/permanent without at the data dictionary. I saw a query performing DML against

Re: Oracle Snapshot Too Old during programatic load

2003-07-28 Thread Daniel Fink
for the rbs? In v$rollstat, how many extends and shrinks are you seeing? In terms of cause #2, what is your db_block_size, how many other transactions are running at the same time and how many rbs do you have? Daniel Fink Smith, Ron L. wrote: That's just sidestepping the problem. I agree

Re: Please look at this imp command

2003-07-29 Thread Daniel Fink
, but the database was not opened. I know there are registry settings to control this, but I don't know them off the top of my head. I am sure someone on the list can provide them. The bottom line...imp did not close the database, the server reboot did. Daniel Fink Wolfe Stephen S GS-11 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote

Inlist Iterator and NULLs

2003-07-29 Thread Daniel Fink
Is the INLIST ITERATOR unable to use the index unless we specify NOT NULL? I wanted to bounce this off the list before we log a TAR. We are examining the performance of a query and I am trying to understand why an INLIST ITERATOR is not used if there is not an explicit IS NOT NULL predicate

Re: undo tablespace and rollback segments in oracle9i

2003-07-30 Thread Daniel Fink
The scenario you describe is not consistent with manual undo. Was the database created/started with automatic undo and you have switched to manual? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use manual managed undo tablespace but there are some system named rollback segments on that tablespace ( I did

Re: Is it Veritas or is it smoke and mirrors? again

2003-07-30 Thread Daniel Fink
Michael Kline wrote: There seems to be some big confusion if Veritas is working or not... snip... Recovery has NEVER been tested. Michael Alan Kline, Sr. Principal Consultant Business to Business Solutions, LLC Phone: 804-744-1545 Cell: 804-314-6262 ICQ: 1009605, 975313 Email:

Re: undo tablespace and rollback segments in oracle9i

2003-07-30 Thread Daniel Fink
If you are now running in manual undo mode and have created rollback segments, you can remove the undo segments. Verify that the segments are offline and you are not using them. Then drop the undo tablespace. This is the only way to get rid of them. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes . What should

Re: Inlist Iterator and NULLs *SOLVED*

2003-07-31 Thread Daniel Fink
Thanks to Wolfgang for spotting the problem. It was not the inlist iterator at all but an outer join! The NOT NULL predicate invalidated the outer join, so the optimizer was smart enough to make a different decision. I am still perplexed as to why the table access information was so radically

Re: Redo Logs Problem

2003-08-01 Thread Daniel Fink
Tanel Poder wrote: Hi! Statistic#'s vary between versions (and possibly platforms), so one should use statistic names instead of numbers in scripts. Statistic# 99 is physical reads direct (lob) in my test environment for example. Tanel. An alternative is to use v$sess_io and examine

Re: Record breaking query

2003-08-09 Thread Daniel Fink
WOW! How many googolbytes do you have devoted to your Undo Tablespaces? Jamadagni, Rajendra wrote: TICK : Fri Aug 8 09:06:03 2003 SEARCH in kdisti: tsn = 5, objd = 83525, rdba = 33588489 ORA-01555 caused by SQL statement below (Query Duration=1060347963 sec, SCN: 0x0011.05e003c2): TICK

Re: Snapshot too old in undo tablespace in 9i?

2003-08-14 Thread Daniel Fink
Abraham, Setting the retention time may not solve the problem. One of the ways that an ORA-1555 can be triggered is when the transaction table slot is overwritten. This is caused by having many small, serial transactions in the database while the export is running. In each undo segment (or

Re: ** is there PL/SQL for case

2003-08-14 Thread Daniel Fink
Beginning in 9, the sql kernel was incorporated into pl/sql. This means that any sql call is now available to pl/sql. In 8.x and earlier versions, they were separate and, therefore, some calls in sql were not available in pl/sql. Danielbegin:vcard n:Fink;Daniel x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Sun

Event 10235

2003-08-14 Thread Daniel Fink
One of our databases has the 10235 (level 2) event set. Unfortunately, the Metalink doc is very sparse (barely more than oerr). It mentions that it protects internal memory management structures. What I am needing are reasons why this event would be set. Anyone have experience with this event

Re: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-14 Thread Daniel Fink
Tim Gorman wrote: I don't mean to be argumentative, but every time I see assertions like these, I suspect someone has been reading some rather discredited books... Okay, now I have an image of Tim, in a kilt, standing over a grate, with his face painted with Blue vertical stripes and a big

Re: UNDO Tablespace

2003-08-14 Thread Daniel Fink
Sherrie, Also check out Tim Gorman's paper/presentation Cat's, Dog's and ORA-1555s on his website www.evdbt.com. It is a great place to start, then move on to my papers which are more geeky in nature (reading block dumps, following the undo chain, etc.). Daniel Fink (Gotta run, just checking

Re: Snapshot too old in undo tablespace in 9i?

2003-08-15 Thread Daniel Fink
Stephen, Tim's statement is correct, but can be construed incorrectly if you read it and think of TEMP segments. AUM still uses undo segments (same basic structure as rollback segments). However, one of the space management steps is to allow an undo segment to 'steal' extents from another undo

Re: Oracle World anyone?

2003-08-15 Thread Daniel Fink
they often have some top notch meetings that are easy to attend and afford. Daniel Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jared et al, I was just told by my new boss that I have to have any requests for any conferences/shows in by Sept. 5th (his budget deadline). It's been years since I worked

32 or 64?

2003-08-18 Thread Daniel Fink
From a technical and business perspective, what are the reasons to migrate from 32-bit to 64-bit Oracle? Are there known bugs/problems with one version that are not present in the other? Daniel Finkbegin:vcard n:Fink;Daniel x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Sun Microsystems, Inc. adr:;; version:2.1

Re: tuning question when you have a 3GL application

2003-08-18 Thread Daniel Fink
to identify what is slow, when it is slow. If they can repeat it, run a test with 10046 enabled. That WILL identify the cause of the response time degradation. Daniel Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have two teams. Database team and a Software engineering team. The software engineering team wrote

Re: tuning question when you have a 3GL application

2003-08-19 Thread Daniel Fink
Cary is spot on. The technical problem is fairly easy to address. The political problem is the real issue. Will your manager support you in laying down the 'rules of engagement'? Do you have the ability/support to push back and say I will be glad to help, but I need the following from the

MAXTRANS ignored

2003-08-19 Thread Daniel Fink
In testing, I found that MAXTRANS seems to be ignored in 9.2.0.3. I created a table with a MAXTRANS setting of 1. I inserted some rows and committed. In one session, I updated a row, but did not commit. In another session, I updated a different row (in the same block). I expected to see a wait,

Re: MAXTRANS ignored

2003-08-19 Thread Daniel Fink
BINGO! I tried 3 tx and #3 waited on a tx to end. I just RTFMed and the doc (both r1 and r2) says it can be 1 to 255. If you can recall where you read this, please let me know. Daniel Tanel Poder wrote: Hi! I remember from somewhere that in 9i, mintrans is 2 for tables as well, like for

Re: cursor_sharing in 8.1.7.4 - good or bad

2003-08-21 Thread Daniel Fink
I was curious about your statement the kernel only peeks once per session. I wondered if another session that executed the same statement would be impacted by the peeking or would the optimizer reparse the statement. So I set up a test. Million row table with 2 columns. c1 - number, c2 - date. C1

Re: why this sql's exection plan is so different on two servers

2003-08-25 Thread Daniel Fink
Guang, What is the value of dba_tables.blocks for each of the tables? What is the value of db_file_multiblock_read_count for each of the dbs? Daniel Fink Guang Mei wrote: CLUSTERING_FACTOR values of the indexes for table IDENTIFIER are identical on both servers. Also all table and indexes

Re: test

2003-09-03 Thread Daniel Fink
fail Babette Turner-Underwood wrote: test -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web

RMOUG Training Days Call for Papers

2003-09-04 Thread Daniel Fink
The Rocky Mountain Oracle User Group needs YOU! We are looking for a few (well, more than a few) good speakers for our annual Training Days conference to be held in Denver, Colorado on February 11 12, 2004. This is your chance to share your knowledge and experience with fellow Oracle

Re: latch free wait event

2003-09-04 Thread Daniel Fink
David, Do you have timed_statistics set to true? If not, you need to do so. Although I am pretty certain that this is the case, but let's assume that you truly waited 0 seconds. If you were able to remove ALL of the latch free events, you would improve the response time in the system by 0 seconds.

Re: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-05 Thread Daniel Fink
Let's just cut the crap and start our own Oracle-L Masters (OLM). Qualifications 1) Willingness to answer questions 2) Willingness to ask questions, after RTFM 3) Willingness to publicly admit mistakes and offer corrections 4) Demonstration of advanced knowledge of Oracle 5) Able to back up

# of Undo segments and db crashes

2003-09-08 Thread Daniel Fink
) 4) Instance crashes (may not record termination in alert log). I am wondering if there is an issue with AUM and a large number of segments. Any thoughts, experiences, etc. are greatly appreciated. Daniel Fink begin:vcard n:Fink;Daniel x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Sun Microsystems, Inc. adr

Re: size of NUMBER datatype

2003-09-08 Thread Daniel Fink
The formula is ceiling(# of digits/2) + 1 + (1 if negative). [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many bytes does oracle use to store number datatype ? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network

Re: Documents in or outside the database.

2003-09-10 Thread Daniel Fink
You also need to consider replication issues. If you will have another site that needs to store the documents, you will need to include that in the decision. For example, if you store them inside, Oracle can handle the propogation of the documents to the alternate site. If you store them outside,

Re: IOUG April 18-22, Toronto

2003-09-18 Thread Daniel Fink
Karniotis, Stephen wrote: Does this help everyone understand what we are looking for? SUBMIT SUBMIT SUBMIT shuffling and cringing Yes, master. Whatever you wish, master. Thank You Stephen P. Karniotis Technical Alliance Manager Compuware Corporation Direct: (313) 227-4350 Mobile:

Re: Offshore protests

2003-09-23 Thread Daniel Fink
I realize that it may be terrifying, but there is a great deal of value in becoming indistinguishable. How many accounting/hr/finance jobs are going overseas? None that I have heard of. There are a ton of managers I wish we could offshore (but only about 1 mile off shore...). Bear with me for a

Re: Offshore protests

2003-09-23 Thread Daniel Fink
I can see it now. 2103 - Can you believe it! They just outsourced my job to a martian! 2203 - Can you believe it! They just outsourced my job to some guy from Alpha Centauri 2303 - Can you believe it! They just outsourced my job to a being from a parallel dimension! 2403 - Can you believe it!

Re: select distinct values

2003-09-23 Thread Daniel Fink
Elain, The query is returning the correct data. DISTINCT applies to the row as a whole. Since the NAME adds a new element, DISTINCT finds that 1MIKEY is different than 1JOEY. How do you determine the 'first' row of the testid? Depending upon the access path (table/index), this could be a

Re: maturing monitoring scheme

2003-09-24 Thread Daniel Fink
Some random thoughts, with examples 1) Tracks historical information to determine when a value is out of normal range or when a value has suddenly increased. ex. - SQL*Net messages consume 85-95% of wait time. If this value drops to 75% or rises to 99% alarm. - AR_DATA tablespace is

Re: any else try trace analyzer?

2003-09-25 Thread Daniel Fink
I've done a little with it. It's free, which is a plus and it parses the trace file and loads it into database tables. The documentation is limited to a single readme, which is adequate. The biggest problems with it are that it requires you to run the analyzer as the user issuing the query, it

Re: Estimating space needed for UNDO tablespaces

2003-09-26 Thread Daniel Fink
an eye on the begin_time and end_time. However, for estimation purposes it should work. Daniel Fink Thomas Jeff wrote: I'm beginning the process of converting over to automatic undo management. I'm wondering as to exactly how large to initially build the UNDO tablespace.Make it roughly

Re: Estimating space needed for UNDO tablespaces

2003-09-26 Thread Daniel Fink
you are using AUM, keep a close eye on v$undostat, though there are some known issues with it not populating properly, keep an eye on the begin_time and end_time. However, for estimation purposes it should work. Daniel Fink Thomas Jeff wrote: I'm beginning the process of converting over

x$ constructs and memory

2003-09-29 Thread Daniel Fink
of memory? Is there an upper bound? Daniel Fink begin:vcard n:Fink;Daniel x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Sun Microsystems, Inc. adr:;; version:2.1 title:Lead, Database Services x-mozilla-cpt:;9168 fn:Daniel W. Fink end:vcard

Last Call for RMOUG Training Days 2004

2003-09-29 Thread Daniel Fink
Today is the last day to submit an abstract for Rocky Mountain Oracle User Group Training Days 2004 in sunny and snowy Denver, Colorado. Last year, we had sessions from oracle-lers Cary, Anjo, Rachel, Tim as well as Stephan Haisley, Gary Goodman, Kent Graziano, Dave Ensor, Craig Shallahamer and

Re: Problems creading a Index

2003-09-29 Thread Daniel Fink
the same error. Daniel Fink Teresita Castro wrote: HI!!I want to create the next index:CREATE UNIQUE INDEX LAWSON2.IOEINVCLINE1 ON "LAWSON2".OEINVCLINE(COMPANY, INVC_PREFIX, INVC_NUMBER, ITEM) TABLESPACE LAWSON_PRUEBAS_INDICES PCTFREE 5 STORAGE(INITIAL 40960 )But I can't because Orac

Re: v$sort_usage

2003-09-29 Thread Daniel Fink
Looks like a documentation bug. The description exists in the 901 docs but not in 920 docs. The view still exists in 920. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List, I am unable to find v$sort_usage in the 9i docs, though this synonym exists. Any idea why ? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:

Re: Last Call for RMOUG Training Days 2004

2003-09-29 Thread Daniel Fink
probably just do that anyway. :-) -Original Message- Daniel Fink Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 3:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Today is the last day to submit an abstract for Rocky Mountain Oracle User Group Training Days 2004 in sunny and snowy Denver, Colorado

Re: Table not reusing deleted space

2003-10-01 Thread Daniel Fink
(1048576k /20) indicates that your average row length is over 5k. If you have 8k blocks, this means an average of 1 row per block (perhaps less depending on the variance in row length). Daniel Fink Kaing, Leng wrote: Hello everyone, Env: 8.1.7.4, SunOs 5.8 64 Bit We seem to hitting bug

Re: STAT from trace

2003-10-01 Thread Daniel Fink
Henry, What happens if you issue another query after the query of interest? (something like "select 1 from dual;") STATshould be emitted when the cursor is closed. Daniel Henry Poras wrote: Thanks. I tried both disabling the trace and quitting from the session. No luck with 10046, just

Re: Did Comp die in 9.2?

2003-10-01 Thread Daniel Fink
Bambi, IIRC, you need a BREAK in order for the COMP to work, even when it is ON REPORT. Daniel Bellow, Bambi wrote: Friends -- Did I miss something dying? The doc sez it's still there, but SQL*Plus doesn't seem to be recognizing it... col owner form a10 col segment_type form a5 col

Re: Table not reusing deleted space

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel Fink
Sinardy, I'm not sure I would perform the export/import. It may temporarily mask the problem, but it will return. I think the real issue is that the table has a very large average row length (4898). If you look at the chain count (roughly 1% of the rows), this indicates that the updates are

Re: Sql query : select max timestamp value from table

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel Fink
Johan, First, you don't need the distinct. The proper query will return 1 row per ip. Second, take the max(timestamp) out of the group by. That is causing the problem. Daniel Johan Muller wrote: I have multiple timestamps values for single ip in a table, I need the max(timestamp) for each

Trace File cursor waits

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel Fink
this sequence of events in the trace file. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Daniel Fink begin:vcard n:Fink;Daniel x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Sun Microsystems, Inc. adr:;; version:2.1 title:Lead, Database Services x-mozilla-cpt:;9168 fn:Daniel W. Fink end:vcard

Re: logg error line in unix

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel Fink
I prefer to tell BAD data to go sit in the corner and think about why it is BAD. After a suitable time, I'll let the BAD data out of the corner and it can rejoin the rest of the data, as long as it agrees to play nice and not upset the other data. Yechiel Adar wrote: Have you tried to run

Re: Physical I/O and databases other than oracle

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel Fink
This is not an issue of answering the question, but pointing out that the question is not correct. Why do databases exist (aside to make Larry money)? To 'permanently' store data. As this storage must survive a system failure, we choose to place the data on a non-volatile medium (disk, paper,

Re: Oracle and nfs mounted devices.

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel Fink
IIRC, you will also need to change who is the running owner of the oracle process. In WinNT/2k, this defaults to SYSTEM. You need to create an ORACLE user on each system and change the instance owner to ORACLE. Then deal with the normal permissions stuff. There should be a note on metalink on how

Re: Table not reusing deleted space

2003-10-03 Thread Daniel Fink
be those half filled? We may have to build a special 16K block database just for this table in the end. Now I see why we need 9I :-} But upgrading is probably not an option at the moment. Thank you!! Leng. --- From: Daniel Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003

Re: Cary's book

2003-10-03 Thread Daniel Fink
next big project. I'll still be hacking away at Oracle, learning how it REALLY works, doing things that they say should/could not be done. But my goal is to make myself more proficient in a skill that will benefit the organization. My $0.03 (I'm a little long winded today...) Daniel Fink Freeman

Re: Cary's book - Rapidly moving OT....

2003-10-03 Thread Daniel Fink
Ah, yes... No kids here, but I do have pet potbellied pigs to support. Anyone have more than 2? ;) Dan Brian Dunbar wrote: Freeman Robert - IL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Friday, October 03, 2003 12:09 PM Well I've brought my share of children into the world, thats for sure I'd

Re: Unintentional Humor

2003-10-06 Thread Daniel Fink
Isee what you mean. Too funny! Hmm...Iguess I've been wrong all these years. And all that time Iwasted reading the official documentation on such "undocumented" and "hidden" programs like export/import, sql*loader, tkprof... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, well I thought it was funny. Doing a

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