Keep on dreaming.
On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Sinardy Xing wrote:
Hi US friends,
How high is your income tax ?
90-110K is this the take home pay ?
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Hello,
How many people here have RPG - AS400 - iSeries in their shops? Curious
question: What makes your shop use the IBM iSeries?
Do you use RPG or SQL for your database?
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Hello,
How many people here have RPG - AS400 - iSeries in their shops? Curious
question: What makes your shop use the IBM iSeries?
Do you use RPG or SQL for your database?
Thank you
DotNot. Anyone?
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your own
thoughts, or a link or links to articles you are aware of.
Thanks,
Jared
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Seriously now.
I know you are trying to evaluate Solaris and Windows, but ...
Linux is the way to go. Sun's are expensive machines.
NT/2K are cheap(er) but locks you into an expensive software upgrade cycle.
Linux costs very little and runs on cheap hardware.
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is relative.
I'd say it's ready enough.
Maybe not SAP specifically.
But if you havn't heard, Oracle software runs on Linux fine with a lot of
support available for it already today - Dell, RedHat, Oracle IBM all
support Linux.
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I don't understand.
I could easily configure Oracle on Solaris to show this same output.
Your Oracle on Linux is probably misconfigured. You probably don't know how to
work Linux?
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FTLP show sga
Total System Global Area 1.8088E+10
What's wrong with having 18GB SGA. It's never enough anyways so it's good to
have more.
Besides, Linux uses a flat memory system (I think) in that it fools application
into thinking Linux got GBs of physical memory when in fact most of it is
available as SWAP.
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of these companies will be medium to large sized and
guess what, they will have Linux in them.
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You're looking at this from your own perspective.
Try looking at it from your manager's perspective, or the
angle that the CFO may
W2K will beat Solaris anytime on cost.
Linux will beat anything including the kitchen sink on cost.
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I'd like to quote Chairman Mao:
If you repeat a lie 1000 times, it becomes the truth.
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server at three servers on average per
installation site, so imagine the cost of that.
That's where Linux comes in. AND contrary to what people still think, Linux
is ready for prime-time.
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On Thursday 14 November 2002 01:30 am, Mark Leith wrote:
This blind hate and resentment
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Sun nor
from anybody else. I'd hate to say this but Sun is on it's way out if this is
the case.
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I am also having a weird performance issue with a sun box - mine is a new
v880 4 cpu (900mz) with 16g of ram and a 2 T hitachi san. For example - I
Oracle 92i runs fine on all recent Linux distros. I've tested it on Mandrake 9.0
and all's well.
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You are not required to take the expensive course if:
1) You are upgrading from 7 8 or 8i certification.
2) You took your very first 9i certification exam before Sept 1, 2002
3) You are only shooting for the Associate certification level.
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I'm barely done with my 9i certification track and I'm hearing of 10i coming out
soon.
All's too fast!
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Peter,
I don't think a date has been announced yet.
When they do state a date they give 6 months notice though
John
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Hey William,
Why are you 40% OCP - does this mean you are an OCA? When did you take your very
first 9i certification exam? If you took it before Sept. 1, 2002, the you're a
50% OCP.
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My instructor in a recent Oracle Education class
WinNT/2K is another story since
you cannot really use:
sqlplus /nolog
connect / as sysdba
startup
as you would on Unix. Maybe this is what ticked the instructor off - a bunch of
Unix Oracle guys can't log into Oracle on NT?
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My instructor
could
not setup a W2K Oracle database properly - tainting the OCP name in the process,
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Quoting Alan Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi Lyndon,
Well I don't know about your setup, but I can connect just fine with the
connect string you listed below on Win2K, Oracle 9.2
When you say at least with O 9.2, does this mean we cannot do this in 8i ?
We have 8i on EnTee and WinTuKee.
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Quoting Cornio, Georgette Ms USACFSC [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
How do you startup shutdown the database on NT/W2K ?
As I am able to, from the DOS Command Prompt
I certainly did not get anything after each exam, only after each level. I got
the OCA level certificate and a letter from some Veep two weeks after I
completed the second 9i exam (which I'm happy to say I did before the Sept. 1,
2002 deadline !!!).
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Quoting DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL
OK. Thanks.
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Alan, I think what Lyndon meant is this
SQLNET.AUTHENTICATION_SERVICES thing on MS Win that
toggles your ability to connect with the syntax
described. Comment it out and you might see something
like ORA-1031
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database database_name
can you?
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if the DOS command prompt doesn't work, try starting it at the services
level.
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Thanks
Waleed
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. Everything is still in
there. Whatever that's not in there you can down load from www.rpmfind.net
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Quoting Khedr, Waleed [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Any limitations on the personal version or lack of features that exist in
the pro/advanced server version that will impact Oracle.
-Original
? MTS/Shared server
configurations enabled or disabled?
It could be an Oracle problem or the application that's trying to connect's fault.
Any tips and insights into what caused your horror story and how it was fixed.
Thanks.
Have a Happy Holidays everybody.
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get corruppted in the first place? Anyone here with
an experience of their Oracle database getting corrupted and what caused it and
what was done to fix it?
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Lyndon
I would look at the wait statistics to see what is happening inside
What's the logic behind the skill testing question required by Canadina Law to
win a prize?
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LOL glad I'm not a Canadian
Canadian winners are required under
Hmmm, anyone tried Linux Oracle with year 2059?
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On Sunday 29 December 2002 08:28 pm, Amit Nargotra wrote:
This strange problem we are facing while implemting Oracle Based ERP at
Nepal for asian paints.
Nepal follows Hindu calender, as per the hindu calender the current year
Why bother with third-party freeware when Oracle client software is free too.
Oracle 9i's Enterprise Manager Console is a pretty good GUI tool.
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TOAD
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If using TCP/IP, you don't have to do anything. 10 seconds is short
enough time for the connection to still be alive.
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Is there any possible way to retain/reinstate/continue a SQLNet
connection
if there is say a 10
If you are using TCP/IP, then yes. It's highly dependent on your OS
TCP/IP stack though. I tried it with Linux and it seems fine.
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Is there any possible way to retain/reinstate/continue a SQLNet
connection
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I believe the problem affects only 8i.
9i is ok.
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I completely forgot all about this, but the install I just
completed went
without a hitch. I'm running Win2K SP3 (bleah) and installed
9.2.0.1.0
downloaded from OTN last night
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try strace ./runInstaller
or
strace ../runInstaller
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What is your DISPLAY environment variable set to?
-Joe
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Read-up:
http://otn.oracle.com/documentation/oracle9i.html
http://otn.oracle.com/pls/db92/db92.docindex?remark=homepage
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(like
subscribing).
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Quoting Bernardus Deddy Hoeydiono [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I
suggest if
your O/S (Win2K) running well ,please don't apply the service if
not
necessary.
Perhaps this is the advice most people followed that's why that
Slammer worm took off.
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Hello guys,
I remember seeing a freeware software that can connect to a database
through ODBC on Windows, then reverse engineer the ER diagram from the
database.
Could someone on this list email me or us the link to get this
software? Thank you very much.
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such as the inventory.
during an install/upgrade this common data needs to be updated.
i suppose i would work ok if u were careful with permissions, but
it would
be just one more thing to go wrong.
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tried it I did not seem to find the function for this.
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If only Oracle can come up with a Postgresql command such as:
pg_dump dbname | gzip dbname_backup.gz
Then backups would be easy. I know, I know Oracle can do the same with
export, and sqlplus but hell it ain't that easy with Oracle.
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Simply copying does not turn it into text sql scripts.
Could you please explain further? Thanks.
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that you can edit
with a plain text editor (i.e. vi), or simply run in a different SQL
based database. Export dump files are binary and are proprietary only
to Oracle (i.e. no other database understands it unless you convert it
first with some automagic third-party utility).
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and they will prefer what they know.
When will these people learn? IBM priced OS/2 out of the market. Sun
priced Solaris out of the Intel market (until recently, but it's too
late).
Oracle is going soon if they continue to do this.
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and Postgresql here? hsql is
not scalable means I'd rather use Access.
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have never encountered before. That's why I
freaked out when someone mentioned You can do this with that... ! I
did not get the point that hsql is a different database.
Anyways. It's good to know there is another database out there.
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hang. If outside sql/plus and
press
ctl-C, there is NO problem.
I do not have the same problem. Pressing ctrl-C stops the long
query but simply returns to the sqlplus sql prompt.
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to use.
But of course, Oracle does not know this. They are sitting on their
laurels thinking they are THE Database. They will lose the lower end
of the market and get pushed upmarket till there is no more room to go.
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to be surprised
when the DB stops working and then finding out later that the init.ora
file needs to be edited for scalability. Oracle does not scale itself.
It needs to be configured to scale. Why isn't Oracle scalable by default?
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the plain text output more
useful and easy to store. Recovery is easier as well, just cut and
past the relevant lines of script and run it.
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not those $$$ making diploma mills).
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teaches any classes directly, but just certifies
training
organizations and instructors.
The point here is to allow people easier access to Oracle knowledge,
through courses you can pick up at your local community college.
What Oracle is doing right now is stifling this.
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- intelligent self-tuning.
It will be hard to accomplish but is possible. Hopefully, we will get
there (slowly) one day.
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class for $$$
company paid and still does not know), it just so happens I know how
to fix it that's why I get called to fix it.
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are MS SQL classes all over the place.
The school where I graduated from offers MS SQL. I ask them about
Oracle and they gave me an answer - We teach SQL using MS SQL..
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Sounds good. It's not that expensive! I wonder if Oracle instructors
cost more than MS SQL instructors that's why most schools (where I
am)offer MS SQL?
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) should be thought before C since C is
harder.
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Quoting Nick Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Two words - Speed and Performance.
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are developing software on a database running on
development machines.
Look at the number of [Re]'s on the subject line of this email!!!
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Quoting Ora NT DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
You are WRONG! The Oracle Academic Initiative has 100's of members.
In
California
there are more than 200.
I should move to Californiaa.
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around jobless.
But I do admin(solely me and me alone) exactly one PostGreSQL
development soon to be a production database so does that
make me a DBA?
If you say so. Seriously.
Self-proclaimed I am my own DBA!!
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in the first place. Even junior position DBA require a
B.Sc. (those that I've read).
As far as the wave is concerned, it's getting too crowded at the
crest. Too many people wannbea DBA.
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you've always dreamed of. Go! Hurry! ;-)
I will be while before things get cleared up. By then, I'll be a pensioner.
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following MySQL development for some time so perhaps things are coming
along.
PostGreSQL is definitely worth to learn if you have a free weekend for
hacking. It's pretty much all you need for most jobs. Best of all, it's free!
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1) Solaris
http://docs.sun.com
2) Linux
http://www.linux.org/docs/index.html
3) AIX
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/pseries/library/sp_books/index.html
4) Got questions:
try Google at http://www.google.com
5) There's more out there but these sites are a good start.
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Difference between Unix and Linux is $$$.
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Quoting Richard Ji [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Very detailed explaination. Actually Sun's OS is SunOS,
Solaris is an environment that's consist of SunOS + Openwin.
Update: Solaris = SunOS + GNOME. OpenWin is gone. CDE is just there for backup
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to Oracle in
funxtionality. I am already over-worked trying to manage just one PostGreSQL
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Quoting Farnsworth, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
8.1.7 on NT. Got it fixed though.
Thanks,
dave
Dave,
Instead of just telling us it's fixed. Perhaps it would be better if
you actually told us how it got fixed, please.
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9i will cost you more in the long run because you have to take 4 exams
at $150 each plus a $3000 course to get OCP.
8i then upgrade to 9i will cost you less but requires you to take up
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Quoting Les Ayudo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hello
When I quoted the prices, I quoted exam prices alone. Education costs
are extra. FYI - I got my OCx without going to school. Work experience
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School A (www.idtnetwork)which is offering the Oracle 9i cert
Learning the first database is the hardest for me. After which
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Quoting Mogens Nørgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I see it from a slightly different (and probably wrong) angel, at
least
regarding the performance of things and databases: If you've worked
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Check to make sure Oracle is not using NT PDC authentication. Maybe
you do not have a PDC in the network and Oracle would not start
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Please tell us what caused the problem and how you solved it.
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Quoting Koivu, Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi Wayne,
Thanks so much for responding.
I guess my lack of knowledge of Windows 2000 administration has
just bit me in the ass. A description of a paintbrush-style
RMAN is cool. Especially in 9i since everything is automated, as in
channel allocation and such.
RMAN in 8i was a bit painfull since a couple of steps were manually
necessary.
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I like that 40% OCP, 100% DBA.
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Quoting DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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If you know MS. You should know they will never give up. They will
conquer the Universe one day. Resistance is futile.
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Quoting DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
For your amusement, MS thinks they can now equal Oracle in
performance
(wasn't that what they claimed 3 years ago
code you see?
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Quoting DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I find it interesting that some foreign countries like China and
Russia have
expressed interest in Linux for just this reason. They realized
that maybe
someday the CIA could bury some code to send information back
Hello,
1) How big (max) can an Oracle SGA be in a 32bit platform (Windows and
Linux on ia32)?
2) How big (max) can an Oracle SGA be on a 64bit platform (Sparc
Solaris, AIX PowerPC)?
Thanks.
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Hello,
Anyone here used Oracle on a PAE enables ia32 hardware? Can Oracle use
more than the 3GB limitation?
Thanks.
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What's wrong with plain text?
Should we start using XML too? Where is the world going?
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Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Chuck,
HTML makes a mess in my e-mail package, at least right now.
Dick Goulet
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Author: Chuck
PGA, sort area, log buffer takes some space too)
does not give you a lot of data, does it? It's equivalent to a 3GB
hard drive full of Oracle data. 3GB hard drives are what, a 5 year old
technology? 3GB of Oracle data, translates to how many rows, columns,
tables (roughly)??
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Hey, I just remembered that Oracle on Linux runs as multiple processes
, unlike Oracle on Windows which runs as one big process. Does this
mean each Oracle process on Linux can access 3GB of memory? So that in
the end the whole of Oracle can actually use greater than 3GB of memory?
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-Tech-WP-Final.PDF
Actually, it did answer all my questions! Thank you.
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Oracle use it's own jre. Comes with the install package and installs
as part of the software package.
You probably have an unrelated DISPLAY or X server problem.
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Quoting Odland, Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Anyone messing with RedHat 8.0 and Oracle 9.2..?
I've got 9.2.0.2.0
in unavailable.
7) This is because I used the controlfile as the rman repository. And
when I back-uped the controlfile, the controlfile did not yet have the
updated backupset information.
8) How do you solve this problem?
Thanks.
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But GNU is not UNIX.
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Quoting Orr, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Per the below link, SCO owns Unix and they're suing IBM for a
paltry
$1Billion:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/03/06/HNsco_1.html
How can this be?
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Depends on the orginazation.
Some organizations are rigid seniority based traditionaly managed
where it does not matter if you have a PhD or not. If you've been with
the company 10 years, then you get a raise and get to do neat things.
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Quoting Pete Sharman [EMAIL PROTECTED
with users, etc.
No amount of training, exam taking or even experience can prepare you
with any of this.
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