DENNIS, I think that I did not explain my idea.
I do not understand the complain of Thomas.
I do not see any harm in a company choosing its dealers based
on their commitment to the goals of my company.
Microsoft has a right to prefer dealer who embrace the .net,
or do you think that anybody
Yechiel - Sorry, I was reacting to your analogy of the paper company. I
agree that dealers are an entirely different matter.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Microslop is not a private company, and has not
been for quite some years now.
Jared
On Monday 30 September 2002 03:33, Yechiel Adar wrote:
DENNIS, I think that I did not explain my idea.
I do not understand the complain of Thomas.
I do not see any harm in a company choosing its dealers
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Microslop is not a private company, and has not
been for quite some years now.
Jared
On Monday 30 September 2002 03:33, Yechiel Adar wrote:
DENNIS, I think that I did not explain my idea.
I do not understand the complain of Thomas.
I
Title: OT: MIcrosoft Blackmail
Thomas,
Don't
get mad - remember, it's not personal, it's just "the
bidness".
Remember, sales-dweebs can say anything they want. If your
sales-dweeb-conversation person rolls-over for this MS sales-dweeb, then it's
your companies fault.
And
reme
Title: OT: MIcrosoft Blackmail
What exactly is your problem?
Lets say that you are a factory that sells paper.
You need to buy a computer system.
One supplier also sell printers and the other advocate
paperless office.
All things being equal, which one will you give your
business
Remember, sales-dweebs can say anything they want. If your
sales-dweeb-conversation person rolls-over for this MS sales-dweeb, then
it's your companies fault.
And remember, it's a two-way street. The sales-dweeb can say anything he
wants to you, but you can call also - including telling
Title: OT: MIcrosoft Blackmail
Exactly.
In
other words, thank the MS-sales-dweeb for his time, and tell him "bye-bye now",
"no-more-sales-for-you".
Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional
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If you want them to shut up and play nice(r) then I'd strongly
suggest having a few prominent G3's around on desktops and at
least one server (say file + print running Samba) with an RH
or SuSE sitcker on it next to the NT boxes on your rack. See
if that helps them understand your point of
Title: OT: MIcrosoft Blackmail
Well,
regardless of MS tactics, the
last paragraph reads: "Therefore, I support investigating SQL server, Biz Talk,
and dot Net, but I emphasize the word INVESTIGATING. "
What
is better than RD projects? At the end one wins no matter what.
Knowin
Allow me to add a true experience to the thread.
We had an Oracle Sales Droid who believed he could pull a significant number of
$$ out of us by playing hardball in a similar though not identical manner,
somewhere between 10 and 15 million of them. Well, we had him his manager in
for a
Yechiel - But all things are NEVER equal. So companies end up doing stupid
things because of some larger motive. You end up buying crappy computers
because your boss thinks it will impress the CEO with how you are loyally
supporting someone that somehow supports your company.
Ironic isn't it.
Title: OT: MIcrosoft Blackmail
you
obviously have not wasted enough time with tasks like this. they really
suck.
you
end up spinning your wheels for a week, all for nothing. your report ends
up on somebody's shelf someplace - never read. and 6 months later, they
ask the same questions
Title: OT: MIcrosoft Blackmail
I view
a RD project not as"adding value to thebusiness",
buttraining for myself. Everytime I have participated on an RD
project I have learned a significant amount and have gained invaluable
experience!
If you
go in expecting to throw away all of
Title: OT: MIcrosoft Blackmail
Don't you
think that the constant search for the nirvana of us all - a perfect solution to
somebody else's problems includes pulling off the shelf that report written a
long time ago?
In
addition,reports are just side effects of "knowing
b
Title: OT: MIcrosoft Blackmail
Speaking of RD, what about the eWeek article about how M$ is going
to pump $3,000,000,000.00 into MS Office? They want to achieve
$20,000,000,000.00 per year in revenue on MSOffice alone. Seems like they want
to dominate the desktop with more that just theO/S
Nothing wrong with dominating as long as the rule the better product
wins is followed (i.e. not through foul play like forcing Dell or HP to
bundle MSOffice or else they can't sell MSWindows with their PC's).
ltiu
Orr, Steve wrote:
Speaking of RD, what about the eWeek article about how M$
Yeah, I saw that one and thought how hard can that be?. Just raise license
fees again. What are corporations going to do? Switch to StarOffice? Do that
and all the users will insist that they much have pure MS.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Dennis,
Actually migrating to StarOffice is pretty simple. We would have done so a
year ago, but the mail package we're using would not budge. Damn Lotus.
Dick Goulet
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Dennis,
Actually migrating to StarOffice is pretty simple. We would have done
so a
year ago, but the mail package we're using would not budge. Damn Lotus.
Dick Goulet
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This came to our DBA team today. I'd appreciate your thoughts. I'm not a business
guy, just a plain old Apps DBA, but this really pisses me off. Is it common practice
by MS?
It is important from an Architecture point of view that we understand all
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