Re: RE: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-24 Thread Ryan
where did you hear that oracle 10g was written almost entirely outside the US? what critical problems have you had with 9i? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 10:19 PM On 01/23/2004 07:54:25 PM, Arnold, Sandra

Re: RE: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-24 Thread Mladen Gogala
Personal communication. On 01/24/2004 06:44:24 AM, Ryan wrote: where did you hear that oracle 10g was written almost entirely outside the US? what critical problems have you had with 9i? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday,

Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-23 Thread Ryan
a single session is supposed to be allowed 5% of the P_A_T, you could get about 90MB. So there are some funny things going on in that area which still need fixing. It's a bit tough for big systems, as I've found that the optimizer seems to be much smarter about memory user and access

are the 9.2.0.3 memory leaks critical?

2004-01-23 Thread ryan.gaffuri
There are a series of metalink notes detailing memory leaks with the PGA in 9203. Has anyone had critical problems? Oracle recommends patching to 9204 to fix this, but it just came out and we prefer to be conservative with our patches. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http

Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-23 Thread Mladen Gogala
I read the paper about the adaptive memory and how it gets wasted, but with 10G SGA you can afford to be a bit wasteful. I would set workarea_size_policy to manual and then set sort_area_size to 32M and hash area size to 128M. With the memory sizes you mentioned, there shouldn't be any problems

RE: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-23 Thread Grabowy, Chris
that the optimizer seems to be much smarter about memory user and access paths when P_A_T and W_S_P are set. What's the book about ? Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk The educated person is not the person who can answer the questions, but the person who can

RE: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-23 Thread Jeroen van Sluisdam
: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak I am interested in the bug number. Currently am having memory problems that may be related to the pga. Sandra -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 5:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Yes I have and still have a problem with pga

Re: RE: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-23 Thread ryan.gaffuri
EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak Kirti, So is April 12th the latest date you heard for when 10g might be released?? Because it was the end of 2003, but I didn't know it had slipped all the way into April

RE: RE: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-23 Thread Arnold, Sandra
] Date: 2004/01/23 Fri PM 03:24:45 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak Kirti, So is April 12th the latest date you heard for when 10g might be released?? Because it was the end of 2003, but I didn't know it had

Re: RE: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-23 Thread Mladen Gogala
On 01/23/2004 07:54:25 PM, Arnold, Sandra wrote: We still have an 8.1.5 database as well as two 8.1.7.4 and one 9.2.04 databases. We are planning on upgrading our 8i databases this year. The rate we are going it probably will be two years before we get to 10g. Sandra That would be a very

Re: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-22 Thread Ryan
Im not sure I see what the size of the PAT has to do with a memory leak. On metalink there is a laundry list of PGA things that were supposedly causing memory leaks prior to 9.2.0.4. Are you certain its PAT causing it? Maybe they didnt fix all the memory leaks with the PGA in general? has anyone

Re: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-22 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
Paul, Most of my work is on HP-UX and AIX. I have yet to see any ORA-600 and memory leaks related to P_A_T. All databases that I work with are on 9.2.0.4, except just one running on 9.2.0.3. No memory leak there either. - Kirti --- Paul Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Kirtikumar

RE: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-22 Thread Arnold, Sandra
I have had a problem on my 9i database for three weeks. I am getting a ORA-7445 error which is pointing to some memory problems. It is occurring during the CTX_DOC.FILTER process. We are running this process from a custom PL/SQL package that is being initiated from an Oracle Job. However, we

RE: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
is pointing to some memory problems. It is occurring during the CTX_DOC.FILTER process. We are running this process from a custom PL/SQL package that is being initiated from an Oracle Job. However, we still have the problem when we run it from a crontab job. I currently have a 21 page TAR concerning

RE: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-22 Thread Arnold, Sandra
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have had a problem on my 9i database for three weeks. I am getting a ORA-7445 error which is pointing to some memory problems. It is occurring during the CTX_DOC.FILTER process. We are running this process from a custom PL/SQL package that is being initiated

RE: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-22 Thread Jeroen van Sluisdam
Yes I have and still have a problem with pga memory leak When using pl/sql tables. I'm on 9i performance and tuning course at oracle Now and discussed this with the teacher. He went looking and found a bug Stating that on 9i (9.2.0.2 and further) there seems to be a limit on total pga per process

[oracle-l] Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
is pointing to some memory problems. It is occurring during the CTX_DOC.FILTER process. We are running this process from a custom PL/SQL package that is being initiated from an Oracle Job. However, we still have the problem when we run it from a crontab job. I currently have a 21 page TAR concerning

RE: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-22 Thread Arnold, Sandra
I am interested in the bug number. Currently am having memory problems that may be related to the pga. Sandra -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 5:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Yes I have and still have a problem with pga memory leak When using pl/sql

Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-22 Thread Tim Gorman
to P_A_T - and although a single session is supposed to be allowed 5% of the P_A_T, you could get about 90MB. So there are some funny things going on in that area which still need fixing. It's a bit tough for big systems, as I've found that the optimizer seems to be much smarter about memory user

RE: [oracle-l] Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-22 Thread Arnold, Sandra
for three weeks. I am getting a ORA-7445 error which is pointing to some memory problems. It is occurring during the CTX_DOC.FILTER process. We are running this process from a custom PL/SQL package that is being initiated from an Oracle Job. However, we still have the problem when we run it from

Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-21 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
Setting P_A_T to a 1GB limit with over 2GB of *available memory* on AIX 4.3.3 and 9.2.0.4 caused ORA-4030, till we turned off hash joins. OS level resources (ulimit -a) were all set to 'unlimited'. In a very limited testing, setting P_A_T to less than S_A_S (and S_A_R_S) worked, however

Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-21 Thread Jared . Still
Kirti, you're back! Must have finished the book. :) Re the PGA problems, what was the value for 'over allocation count' in v$pgastat? Did you try increasing P_A_T to a larger number? Oracle is supposed to grab the memory it needs, if available, regardless of the P_A_T setting. Also, did

Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-21 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
, I never bothered to look at v$pgastat. Should have.. and will, when we do some more testing next week.. Did you try increasing P_A_T to a larger number? Yes... Oracle is supposed to grab the memory it needs, if available, regardless of the P_A_T setting. Also, did your system

Re: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-21 Thread ryan.gaffuri
kirti-- would you recommend avoiding pga_aggregate_target for now? From: Kirtikumar Deshpande [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/01/21 Wed PM 02:44:31 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak Replies in line

Re: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-21 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
:44:31 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak Replies in line... - Kirti --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kirti, you're back! Thanks. Found some slack time from routine DBA work! Must

Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-21 Thread Jonathan Lewis
need fixing. It's a bit tough for big systems, as I've found that the optimizer seems to be much smarter about memory user and access paths when P_A_T and W_S_P are set. What's the book about ? Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk The educated person is not the person who can

Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-21 Thread Ryan
about memory user and access paths when P_A_T and W_S_P are set. What's the book about ? Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk The educated person is not the person who can answer the questions, but the person who can question the answers -- T. Schick Jr Next

Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-21 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
seems to be much smarter about memory user and access paths when P_A_T and W_S_P are set. What's the book about ? Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk The educated person is not the person who can answer the questions, but the person who can question

9i Automatic Memory Damagement:)

2004-01-21 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
Enjoy: http://www.vldb.org/conf/2002/S29P03.pdf This explains how Oracle9i does the P_A_T, W_S_P 'magic'. Cheers! - Kirti __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ -- Please see the

Re: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-21 Thread Paul Drake
guessed it - [723], [10332], [10332], [memory leak]. The database was setup in a less than optimal fashion as far as memory allocations go. The initial pga_aggregate_target was only 64M (server had 3 GB of memory and only one instance up) so I'm calling this one a non-sensical configuration error

pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-20 Thread ryan.gaffuri
One of our production DBAs does not want to use pga_aggregate_target on a 9.2.0.3 instance due to a possible memory leak. The only note on memory leaks and pga_aggregate_target I can find on metalink is: 334427.995 doesnt seem to apply to pga_aggregate_target. We are on sun solaris. Dont know

Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-20 Thread Stephane Faroult
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of our production DBAs does not want to use pga_aggregate_target on a 9.2.0.3 instance due to a possible memory leak. The only note on memory leaks and pga_aggregate_target I can find on metalink is: 334427.995 doesnt seem to apply to pga_aggregate_target. We

RE: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-20 Thread Jeroen van Sluisdam
For further testing but will try do do so and report some more. Regards, Jeroen -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Stephane Faroult [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 20 januari 2004 20:59 Aan: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Onderwerp: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

ORA-06505 PL/SQL: variable requires more than 32767 bytes of contiguous memory

2004-01-19 Thread Mudhalvan, Moovarkku
Dear DBAs, Good Morning. Using PL/SQL procedure I am trying to spool out Japanese Characters with VARCHR2(3600) size and I am getting this error. Here is my code. For your information it is Japanese Characters Spool c:\test.log Declare cursor c1 is select

RE: ORA-06505 PL/SQL: variable requires more than 32767 bytes of contiguous memory - Thank You !!!!!

2004-01-19 Thread Mudhalvan, Moovarkku
Dear Friends, Thank you so much. Yes i was able to solve this issue.. FYI ... I used CONVERT function

Re: RE: large pl/sql table sucking up all memory on a server

2003-12-30 Thread ryan_oracle
] Subject: Re: RE: large pl/sql table sucking up all memory on a server I think Unix Kernel parameter limit should help in this case. It can prevent runaway process from consuming the whole machine resource. In most unix, there is kernel parameter(or ulimit) that restrict the maximum

Re: RE: large pl/sql table sucking up all memory on a server

2003-12-30 Thread Nuno Souto
That works. I prefer thumb presses, they worked for the Inquisition and they lasted 500 years... dr Cheers Nuno Souto [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - I think Ill get a taser and fry the next person who does it. :) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net

large pl/sql table sucking up all memory on a server

2003-12-29 Thread ryan_oracle
? Oracle typically holds your hand with memory usage issues. Are there any parameter settings I can use that limit the size of pl/sql tables? Or are they just dynamic arrays that can grow as large as you want. I know your supposed to use a 'limit' command on them. I didnt write it. I just dont

RE: large pl/sql table sucking up all memory on a server

2003-12-29 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
the server. I was under the impression that pl/sql tables go into the buffer cache and cannot go large than its size? Oracle typically holds your hand with memory usage issues. Are there any parameter settings I can use that limit the size of pl/sql tables? Or are they just dynamic arrays

RE: large pl/sql table sucking up all memory on a server

2003-12-29 Thread Khedr, Waleed
Does he still have a job? :) Was it one session or many of them? How many rows got bulk processed? If it's one session that caused this, then it's either: vary badly designed, there is memory leak, or the system is already short in memory! Waleed -Original Message- Sent: Monday

Re: RE: large pl/sql table sucking up all memory on a server

2003-12-29 Thread ryan_oracle
PROTECTED] Subject: RE: large pl/sql table sucking up all memory on a server Assign the developer a profile that would do good. Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed

Re: RE: large pl/sql table sucking up all memory on a server

2003-12-29 Thread ryan_oracle
3 million records in a forall statement. we are bringing on temps and you know how that goes... Im hoping I can set a parameter somewhere to keep anyone from bringing down a server. such as 'memory for pl/sql table area limit hit' errors out what he is doing. i guess not :( From: Khedr

RE: large pl/sql table sucking up all memory on a server

2003-12-29 Thread Bobak, Mark
Ryan, First off, PL/SQL tables have nothing to do with the buffer cache. The buffer cache is part of the SGA (shared memory) and is used to buffer blocks of database datafiles. That's all that will ever be in the buffer cache. PL/SQL tables are memory constructs that are allocated from the PGA

Re: RE: large pl/sql table sucking up all memory on a server

2003-12-29 Thread ryan_oracle
of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: large pl/sql table sucking up all memory on a server Ryan, First off, PL/SQL tables have nothing to do with the buffer cache. The buffer cache is part of the SGA (shared memory) and is used to buffer blocks of database datafiles. That's all

Re: RE: large pl/sql table sucking up all memory on a server

2003-12-29 Thread Tanel Poder
all memory on a server Assign the developer a profile that would do good. Raj -- -- Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod

Re: RE: large pl/sql table sucking up all memory on a server

2003-12-29 Thread Tanel Poder
Btw, PRIVATE_SGA only limits shared server SGA memory usage, for limiting PGA sizes you could use _pga_max_size (defaults to 200M), but this is getting kind of dirty and is unsupported (and works starting from 9i) Tanel. - Original Message - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December

Re: RE: large pl/sql table sucking up all memory on a server

2003-12-29 Thread Michael Thomas
/detail/-/1590592174 /qid=1072734291/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-9815245-5757732?v=glances=books If you look on pg249, it discusses bulk collect and pga memory, e.g. I crashed my database session (and shortly thereafter my laptop) because insufficient memory was available to hold the set of 100

Re: RE: large pl/sql table sucking up all memory on a server

2003-12-29 Thread Nuno Souto
This is probably old hat for you, but given it's Unix (Sun) and it's a client process, wouldn't you be able to use ulimit to stop memory allocation growing past a certain size? The other thing I'd try is to limit memory through the resource control in Oracle. But that is highly version

Re: RE: large pl/sql table sucking up all memory on a server

2003-12-29 Thread zhu chao
PROTECTED] Subject: RE: large pl/sql table sucking up all memory on a server Assign the developer a profile that would do good. Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed

ora-4030 pga memory allocation running wild

2003-12-23 Thread Jeroen van Sluisdam
Hi, I have an ora-4030 problem related to pga memory allocation, at least I have concluded sofar This program is batch written in pl/sql and after an hour or so it crashes. PGA allocated is slowly exceeding 2Gb and when I monitor with top I see the process size rising uptill 2 Gb

RE: ora-4030 pga memory allocation running wild

2003-12-23 Thread Khedr, Waleed
This is scary, I'm planning to upgrade 9.2.0.4 from 9.2.0.2. I don't know how removing pga_aggegrate_target will help reducing memory!! Does the program have any memory tables, etc? Did you monitor the PGA size from the Oracle side using v$sesstat? A sql by itself can't consume

Re: ora-4030 pga memory allocation running wild

2003-12-23 Thread Jared Still
I'm using auto pga allocation on 9.2.0.3 without any problem. You don't mention which version. You can turn it off with 'alter system set workarea_size_policy=manual; Jared On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 07:24, Jeroen van Sluisdam wrote: Hi, I have an ora-4030 problem related to pga memory

RE: ora-4030 pga memory allocation running wild

2003-12-23 Thread Jeroen van Sluisdam
/var/opt/oracle/product/admin/VU_2/udump/vu_2_ora_10264.trc: ORA-04030: out of process memory when trying to allocate 2464 bytes (cursor work he,rworalo : rwordops) Tue Dec 23 14:24:40 2003 Errors in file /var/opt/oracle/product/admin/VU_2/udump/vu_2_ora_10249.trc: ORA-00600: internal error code

Re: Free Memory in v$sgastat

2003-12-16 Thread Mladen Gogala
Sinardy, where does oracle say anything like that about free memory? Please, quote me an article or URL. Second, if you are not using MTS, your PGA is a part of your dedicated server address space, not SGA. It does exist, though. Similarly, UGA goes to shared pool instead. Buy yourself The Book

RE: Free Memory in v$sgastat

2003-12-16 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi, Those are lines from my friend Oracle University student guide (Original) Sinardy -Original Message- Sent: 16 December 2003 22:34 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sinardy, where does oracle say anything like that about free memory? Please, quote me an article or URL

Free Memory in v$sgastat

2003-12-15 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi all, Why free memory in v$sgastat is a symptom of the fragmentation? Why these "free memory" aremore properly thought of as wasted space? Thanks Sinardy

Re: Free Memory in v$sgastat

2003-12-15 Thread Mladen Gogala
Sinardy, you've attended wrong database tuning course. You need free memory in your shared pool. There is no such thing as sga fragmentation unless there is not enough free memory to satisfy average request. While oracle is not monitoring the size of an average shared pool request. you have

RE: Free Memory in v$sgastat

2003-12-15 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi Mladen, I try to understand 8i, and I am not using MTS, my current understanding is UGA and PGA only exists (I mean in use or in the picture) when you are using MTS. Oracle themselves said 'free memory' are more properly thought of as wasted space I just wondering why this million dollar

Re: How windows manage memory: oracle

2003-12-05 Thread Yechiel Adar
: Paul Drake To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:34 PM Subject: Re: How windows manage memory: oracle Hi. The 2 GB process limit kicks in well under 2 * 1024 *1024 * 1024. its between 1.7 and 1.8 GB. I'm quite familiar

RE: How windows manage memory: oracle

2003-12-05 Thread Niall Litchfield
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yechiel AdarSent: 05 December 2003 07:24To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: How windows manage memory: oracle Thanks Paul. I did a check this week with out Win2000 tech support and was told that it come with 3GB process size while WNT was limited

Re: How windows manage memory: oracle

2003-12-05 Thread Mladen Gogala
, they just left off most of the good pieces in order to release new versions sooner... Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:19 PM That is utterly disgusting memory management. When I come to think

How windows manage memory: oracle

2003-12-04 Thread zhu chao
Hi, friends: Several months ago there is a thread talking about choosing the proper memory size for windows server running oracle. And today I logon to one of my small oracle on NT and found something I cannot understand. It is a small application running Oracle 817/win2k. SGA

Re: How windows manage memory: oracle

2003-12-04 Thread zhu chao
Hi, But PGA is only 40M(This is the sum of all process's v$sesstat). So there is more memory utilization then oracle actually should use. From task manager, it is 2018(Physical+Virtual), But from oracle v$(sga + pga) it is only 1020M.This is the problem. Zhu Chao. - Original

Re: How windows manage memory: oracle

2003-12-04 Thread Paul Drake
Hi. The 2 GB process limit kicks in well under 2 * 1024 *1024 * 1024. its between 1.7 and 1.8 GB. I'm quite familiar with hitting it in win32, as large memory support was not enabled in every 8.1.7.x patchset. Large memory support sure works great in 9.2.0.4. W2K3 Server (not Advanced) ships

Re: How windows manage memory: oracle

2003-12-04 Thread Tanel Poder
SGA is 970M and PGA(maxsize) is 40M. Connection is 20.But from task manager, Oracle is using 1005M physical Memory and 1013M virtual memory(you can view the data from here: http://www.cnoug.org/html/ut/attach/2003/12/04/12516-oramem2-embed.gif). Physical memory and virtual memory overlap

Re: How windows manage memory: oracle

2003-12-04 Thread Mladen Gogala
That is utterly disgusting memory management. When I come to think of it, there was a guy named David Cutler who was promising that Windows will have the same virtual memory system as VMS, with FREELIM,FREEGOAL, BORROWLIM, GROWLIM and MPW_ parameters. Working sets are also gone as well as the most

Re: How windows manage memory: oracle

2003-12-04 Thread Tanel Poder
of the good pieces in order to release new versions sooner... Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:19 PM That is utterly disgusting memory management. When I come to think of it, there was a guy

RE: How windows manage memory: oracle

2003-12-04 Thread Bellow, Bambi
That is utterly disgusting memory management. When I come to think of it, there was a guy named David Cutler who was promising that Windows will have the same virtual memory system as VMS, with FREELIM,FREEGOAL, BORROWLIM, GROWLIM and MPW_ parameters. Working sets are also gone as well as the most elaborate

Memory consumption on HP-UX

2003-11-11 Thread Daiminger, Helmut
Hi, how do I find out how much memory Oracle uses on an HP-UX box? Finding the shared memory portion (i.e. SGA) is fairly easy... But how do I find out how much memory each dedicated user process is consuming? Or is the rule of thumb like this: no matter whether you have 10 or 500 users

Re: Memory consumption on HP-UX

2003-11-11 Thread Richard Foote
it. This is not a good thing in that obviously more PGA memory is allocated that you ideally want and also because the workarea operations are not going to be the ideal optimal executions you're after. Increasing the P_A_T would be therefore be recommended, depending of course on your available memory. v

RE: Memory consumption on HP-UX

2003-11-11 Thread Nelson, Allan
Use glance if you have that package installed, look for ps -ef | grep midaemon Allan -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 3:54 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, how do I find out how much memory Oracle uses on an HP-UX box? Finding the shared memory

RE: Memory consumption on HP-UX

2003-11-11 Thread Juan Miranda
Enviado el: martes, 11 de noviembre de 2003 13:35 Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Asunto: Re: Memory consumption on HP-UX Hi Helmut, Notice the parameter is called pga_aggregate_TARGET and not pga_aggregate_MAX_SIZE. That's because the P_A_T is just that, a target the Oracle does it's

Re: Memory consumption on HP-UX

2003-11-11 Thread Richard Foote
ORACLE-L Asunto: Re: Memory consumption on HP-UX Hi Helmut, Notice the parameter is called pga_aggregate_TARGET and not pga_aggregate_MAX_SIZE. That's because the P_A_T is just that, a target the Oracle does it's best to not exceed. It does this by controlling and rationing the tuneable

ORA-27102: out of memory in Tru64

2003-11-04 Thread Shibu MB
Edition Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production With the Partitioning option JServer Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production SVRMGR connect internal Connected. SVRMGR startup pfile ='/app/oracle/admin/devbcm/pfile/initdevbcm.ora' nomount ORA-27102: out of memory Compaq Tru64 UNIX Error: 12: Not enough space Additional

RE: ORA-27102: out of memory in Tru64

2003-11-04 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe
SVRMGR connect internal Connected. SVRMGR startup pfile ='/app/oracle/admin/devbcm/pfile/initdevbcm.ora' nomount ORA-27102: out of memory Compaq Tru64 UNIX Error: 12: Not enough space Additional information: 1 Additional information: 98307 My Shm parameters are as given below . $ /sbin

Re: memory usage by dbw very high

2003-11-04 Thread Tanel Poder
what is meant by OP,tanel.. Original Poster. Tanel.

Re: memory usage by dbw very high

2003-11-03 Thread Sai Selvaganesan
hi tanel and mladen not every time a process is started does it swap but sometimes swapping does happen.(this is from the top o/p which shows a increase in the memory used in swap.).how do we check whether a single process swaps or not? and the dbw process is using more % of memory than a couple

Re: memory usage by dbw very high

2003-11-03 Thread Sai Selvaganesan
when paging or swapping happens. thanks sai Mladen Gogala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What we have here is a confusion with terminology. Process cannot "be swapping". When there is a serious shortage of memory, the swap demon(yes, your Unix box is haunted) known by the horrible name of [kswa

Re: memory usage by dbw very high

2003-11-03 Thread Mladen Gogala
shortage of memory, the swap demon (yes, your Unix box is haunted) known by the horrible name of [kswapd] writes the whole address space space belonging to the process onto swap. At that point, process is swapped. Unless, we are talking about the kswapd process, the process cannot

Re: memory usage by dbw very high

2003-11-03 Thread Mladen Gogala
What we have here is a confusion with terminology. Process cannot be swapping. When there is a serious shortage of memory, the swap demon (yes, your Unix box is haunted) known by the horrible name of [kswapd] writes the whole address space space belonging to the process onto swap

Re: memory usage by dbw very high

2003-11-02 Thread Tanel Poder
Thanks Mladen, that was a good tip about linux kernel enhancement, however OP still uses 2.4.9 as stated in original post. I just wanted to know whether OP actually sees excessive paging or just memory being full, the latter one, as you know, isn't really a problem. Tanel. - Original

Re: memory usage by dbw very high

2003-11-01 Thread Tanel Poder
Just for clarification, do you actually see swapping when starting a new process or you just guess linux would swap because you don't see "free" memory in top output? Tanel. - Original Message - From: Sai Selvaganesan To: Multiple recipients of lis

Re: memory usage by dbw very high

2003-11-01 Thread Mladen Gogala
The whole thing comes as a consequence of using buffered I/O. New linux kernels (2.4.18 and later) have new memory management, which allows the kernel to grab more memory for buffers in periods of intense I./O activity. If you have a very active database on ReiserFS or Ext3, Linux is going

memory usage by dbw very high

2003-10-31 Thread Sai Selvaganesan
hi i have a system that has no active users at this point of time. the memory used by the dbw process is very high leading to a lot of swapping when any process starts. here are the spces version:9.2.0.4 os:Linux 2.4.9-e.24smp o/p from top: 1:44pm up 29 days, 23:55, 4 users, load average: 1.73

RE: memory usage by dbw very high

2003-10-31 Thread Jesse, Rich
If I'm not mistaken, this figure includes the size of the shared memory segment from the SGA. Take the output of the oracle line of ipcs -a (hopefully you'll only have one!) and subtract it from the process size to get a better idea of the non-shared memory size of the process. Rich Rich Jesse

RE: memory usage by dbw very high

2003-10-31 Thread Sai Selvaganesan
rich the ipcs output shows 1.1 gb. so nearly 2 gb(total ram size is 3.08)is used by non shared memory size. i went thru all the processes and found dbwr using the max %mem. what could be the reason? sai"Jesse, Rich" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I'm not mistaken, this figure include

Automatic Undo Management Memory management in 9i

2003-10-29 Thread Murali_Pavuloori/Claritas
Fellow Listers, Could you please share your experience with Automatic Undo Management and Automatic Memory Management. Would you recommend it? One of the Sr. DBAs here suggested not to implement automatic memory management in 9.2.0.3 but wants to implement it in 9.2.0.4. His suggestion

Re: x$ constructs and memory

2003-10-05 Thread Pete Finnigan
Thanks Raj, I knew about dbms_system.ksdwrt to write to trace files or the alert log or both but not these two. I have see from google that kcfrms allows the resetting of IO counters in v$session_event and v$filestat. And KSDFLS is part of the suite of functions to write to the alert log or

Re: x$ constructs and memory

2003-10-05 Thread Pete Finnigan
Thanks very much Gopal, I have just replied to Raj's post on the same subject. kind regards Pete In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], K Gopalakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Pete: Sorry for the delay. I was traveling back to Bangalore from San Francisco when you sent the message. There is a

Re: x$ constructs and memory

2003-10-04 Thread K Gopalakrishnan
Pete: Sorry for the delay. I was traveling back to Bangalore from San Francisco when you sent the message. There is a procedure in the DBMS_SYSTEM package called KCFRMS which resets certain timing information from the X$KCFIO (which is exposed as V$FILESTAT). And also there is an event which can

Re: x$ constructs and memory

2003-10-03 Thread Pete Finnigan
Hi Gopal, I have followed this thread with interest and i was waiting for you to elaborate on the following statement, specifically what undocumented procedures ? kind regards Pete code and you can not create/update/delete them. However there are some undocumented procudures , thru which you

RE: x$ constructs and memory

2003-10-03 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: x$ constructs and memory dbms_system.KCFRMS|KSDFLS (not sure about this one). Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod

Re: x$ constructs and memory

2003-09-30 Thread Tanel Poder
database structures when database doesn't exist or isn't mounted/open. The translation of SGA memory structures to a returnable row set is pure C code, I think. Or if you can point me to these certain catalog scripts, I'd be glad to read them :O) But yes, about the fixed area I wasn't entirely correct

RE: x$ constructs and memory

2003-09-30 Thread Orr, Steve
Hi Steve and welcome back, Thanks for that detailed answer BUT... A practical question from the original post remains: What happens when these x$constructs begin to consume large amounts of memory? From your explanation I'm assuming that, beyond monitoring the SGA and PGA, memory consumption

RE: x$ constructs and memory

2003-09-30 Thread Jared . Still
I don't generally get too involved in the x$ stuff, just because it normally helps me very little in my DBA work. Nonetheless, I have been following this one somewhat, and if my understanding is correct, x$ tables are not actually responsible for consuming memory, they are merely a mechanism

Re: x$ constructs and memory

2003-09-30 Thread K Gopalakrishnan
Mladen: I am not sure where I am failing to understand you ;). First of all X$ objects are NOT tables, so there is no question of blocks or memory or dictionary cache. They are some C structures and their point in time (I am not finding a better word) values are exposed as table formats

RE: x$ constructs and memory

2003-09-30 Thread Steve Adams
Hi Steve, The X$ interfaces do not use memory persistently, and the memory usage of the X$ tables is fixed and necessary to an instance. Thus memory growth is not possible. Memory growth is possible for the segmented arrays, which some of the X$ interfaces expose. However, it is very unusual

Re: x$ constructs and memory

2003-09-30 Thread Tanel Poder
or memory or dictionary cache. They are some C structures and their point in time (I am not finding a better word) values are exposed as table formats. That is what my understanding. I don't see any relation between them and dictionary cache.. AM I missing something? Regards, Gopal

x$ constructs and memory

2003-09-29 Thread Daniel Fink
I was sitting on a mountain here in Colorado, pondering Oracle optimization and an interesting scenario crossed my feeble mind. As I began to ponder this (I asked the resident marmot, but he must be a SQL*Server expert...), I came up with several questions. Where in memory (sga or other) do the x

RE: x$ constructs and memory

2003-09-29 Thread Robson, Peter
PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 4:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: x$ constructs and memory I was sitting on a mountain here in Colorado, pondering Oracle optimization and an interesting scenario crossed my feeble mind. As I began to ponder this (I asked

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