orion-list 'Cursed be the doers' and other reflections

2001-05-02 Thread Greg Doudna
reality of near-total scholarly agnosticism or denial of the 'sh etymology in the Qumran field in the year 2001. Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail to Greg Doudna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL

orion-list Question on Jeroboam

2001-05-03 Thread Greg Doudna
will not suffice, for that could be later apostacy. The issue is whether any Qumran texts know of the house of Israel (to the north) being born in sin. Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail to Greg Doudna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe

orion-list Gerizim in 3Q15 (Copper Scroll)

2001-05-11 Thread Greg Doudna
the intense rivalry of 1st CE Josephus/NT? Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail to Greg Doudna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site

orion-list Bar Kochba coins found with the Copper Scroll?

2001-05-12 Thread Greg Doudna
of the most basic and repeated truisms of Qumran archaeology, namely that no coins were supposed to have been found in any of the scroll-bearing caves. Greg Doudna --- start excerpt from J. Taylor I have a photocopy of Judah Lefkovitz's Ph.D. thesis 'The Copper Scroll-3Q15

orion-list On 'simple ones' and sobriquets in the pesharim

2001-05-14 Thread Greg Doudna
in the process of discussion unexpected insights will emerge which will bring more clarity to these topics. Greg Doudna (not a Doctor) For private reply, e-mail to Greg Doudna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail

orion-list Identity of sect of the Qumran texts

2001-05-28 Thread Greg Doudna
as a defector or apostate in the view of the Qumran texts)? Josephus doesn't know of any Pharisee or Essene high priests. Something to think about. Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail to Greg Doudna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from

Re: orion-list Identity of sect of the Qumran texts

2001-05-29 Thread Greg Doudna
from 'Zadok'. But if we read 'priests of Zadok' and 'sons of Zadok' in 1QS as 'Sadducees' leading the yachad, and the Teacher as a Teacher of Sadduceeism (by wordplay implication, if not by direct meaning of the name) it might cause some thinking. Greg Doudna Dierk I've got the impression

orion-list Sirach on Zadok-ites c.180-175

2001-06-03 Thread Greg Doudna
simply periphrastic glosses, with *no* significant difference in meaning from the non-sons of Zadok S texts? i.e. the leading priests are all Zadokites, all the time, and sometimes spell it out and say so.) Just some thoughts from somone with too little time to pursue them. Greg Doudna For private

Re: orion-list Sirach on Zadok-ites c.180-175

2001-06-04 Thread Greg Doudna
curious that the Qumran yachad is led by people who explicitly self-identify themselves with the name of one of Josephus's three sects: Zadokites (Sadducees), at the time Josephus has that sect most flourish. Same name, same time, same place, same opponent group ... Greg Doudna For private reply, e

Re: orion-list Re: Sirach

2001-06-06 Thread Greg Doudna
of further discussion now.) Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail to Greg Doudna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http

Re: orion-list The spigot and the 1st century BCE deposit

2001-06-14 Thread Greg Doudna
; therefore I listed this as one of the 'secure' dateable name identifications. Greg Doudna Every one of the names on the list I gave are fully readable, that is, the letters are there, For private reply, e-mail to Greg Doudna [EMAIL PROTECTED

orion-list Pliny's Esseni

2001-06-22 Thread Greg Doudna
, not an archaeological site in the hills immediately above En Gedi, not any site at all--but ... (drumroll) ... Judea itself. Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail to Greg Doudna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail

orion-list Head of the kings of Yavan

2001-07-07 Thread Greg Doudna
') would be regarded as 'of Yavan', simply because that is where they would fit in the Table of Nations, and there is no reason to suppose Romans would not be. Can anyone offer counterargument? Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail to Greg Doudna [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: orion-list Head of the kings of Yavan

2001-07-11 Thread Greg Doudna
Doudna For private reply, e-mail to Greg Doudna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE

orion-list Children of Alexandra Salome

2001-07-17 Thread Greg Doudna
such as this? Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail to Greg Doudna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il

orion-list 1QSb and 1QSa

2001-10-18 Thread Greg Doudna
figure, the Prince of the Congregation, the Branch of David. But in 1QSb this distinct personal figure has not emerged. He is simply among the nameless, non-individualized military commanders who are subject to the high priest, the 'anointed one of Israel'. Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail to Greg

orion-list Apologies for 'aliases' post

2001-10-29 Thread Greg Doudna
it was a mistake. Sincerely, Greg Doudna Clearwater, Florida USA For private reply, e-mail to Greg Doudna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion

orion-list Radiocarbon datings and DNA

2001-10-30 Thread Greg Doudna
of contamination affecting DNA analysis and precautions against this (p. 500), but the potential contamination problems with DNA seem mostly different in kind than the ones of concern in radiocarbon dating. Anyway, this is my analysis of the points you raise. Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail

orion-list Radiocarbon

2001-10-31 Thread Greg Doudna
Reinaldo Martinez asked: Also, regarding your comment to Greg Doudna on radio carbon, (Correct me if I am wrong), I understand that Mass Acceleration Spectrometry is a more precise, less destructive test for dating both organic and inorganic samples. Would it perhaps be better

orion-list Radiocarbon (castor oil)/ extracts from article

2001-11-03 Thread Greg Doudna
.' ---end of direct quotations from article-- Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail to Greg Doudna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives

orion-list Reflections on radiocarbon datings and the Scrolls

2001-11-14 Thread Greg Doudna
in the radiocarbon business also will surely learn. Isn't there somewhere in Proverbs that says 'it is the glory of God to conceal a matter, but the glory of kings is to search it out.' Not a bad paraphrase for the process of science. Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail to Greg Doudna [EMAIL PROTECTED

orion-list 1QSb and 1QSa

2001-10-11 Thread Greg Doudna
-messianism' theory (perhaps correct in principle though badly named) is not what is motivating this textual work for me; it is simply an interest in reading these texts accurately. Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail to Greg Doudna [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: orion-list 1QSb and 1QSa

2001-10-11 Thread Greg Doudna
1QSa would better be read. Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail to Greg Doudna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http

orion-list Maskil and messiahs

2001-10-12 Thread Greg Doudna
about defining it as a term for a scholarly construct or phenomenon-description term. Since the term is useful and is in the language, the second option seems to be the better one (this second option is the one Wise pursues). Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail to Greg Doudna [EMAIL

orion-list Response to question on radiocarbon dating

2001-10-16 Thread Greg Doudna
yet through testing). Therefore in sum: the problem is proven real, whether or not there is a solution to it. However, as a distinct issue, almost certainly there will be one or more viable solutions developed for this. Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail to Greg Doudna [EMAIL PROTECTED

orion-list Definition of Essenes

2002-01-06 Thread Greg Doudna
to be intentionally constructed, or reconstructed, anew in senses departing from common or prevailing usages of the word? So--an open question--addressed to anyone on this list who speaks of 'the Essenes': what is the definition of 'Essenes' in the discourse? Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail

orion-list Re: Definition of Essenes

2002-01-06 Thread Greg Doudna
to in Josephus, Philo and Pliny as the Essenes. Regards, Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail to Greg Doudna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives

orion-list Teacher of Righteousness--dead or alive?

2002-01-21 Thread Greg Doudna
and Hyrcanus II as the bad guy from the perspective of the texts. I think I show it was the other way around. Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail to Greg Doudna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED

orion-list Radiocarbon

2002-01-28 Thread Greg Doudna
inerrancy' is truly a novel one, and one wishes Goranson would elaborate more on how this might work in practice as applied to the existing Qumran text radiocarbon data. Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail to Greg Doudna [EMAIL PROTECTED

orion-list Goranson on ioudaios

2002-01-29 Thread Greg Doudna
Stephen Goranson has written on ioudaios in response to my last orion post: (SG, 1/29/02, ioudaios [in full]) This morning I find that Greg Doudna, after quoting me in truncated, misleading, innacurate manner, has attributed to me (on orion this time) definitions and views I have never

orion-list Re: Nikos Kokkinos on Radiocarbon/Qumran texts

2002-01-30 Thread Greg Doudna
of 1000 years earlier (there are other strange battles there to be fought). I just thought to butt in - I hope I said something useful. (This may be posted to Orion if anyone thinks it should.) Nikos Kokkinos Yes it was useful. Thank you. Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail to Greg

Re: orion-list 4Q282i Crucifixion Fragment

2002-02-06 Thread Greg Doudna
phenomena in the Qumran texts is fascinating to me. Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail to Greg Doudna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives

orion-list Re: Hyrcanus II TOR?

2002-02-07 Thread Greg Doudna
could be the dominant scribal school of the temple or within Jerusalem 63-40 BCE (as well as after that). The other scribal hands could be various sources of texts collected and gathered in Jerusalem from other places (or within Jerusalem). Greg Doudna Dear Greg, some times ago you wrote