, JDeveloper, Forte and IDEA
suited best.
Cheers.
B. Adji Maharyatno
@Singapore
-Original Message-
From: Geoff Soutter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 2:35 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: OK, here's Real World: was: idea=$395.00USD was: RE: Java
IDE?
And don't forget
On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, The Boss wrote:
I usually build tools to build tools so I mostly can't afford
to accept other people's design philosophies. Thus the tools of
choice for me are the simplest because they have the least
conceptual overhead. Put it like this, I am NOT interested in
making
in the
developer's arsenal.
regards
phil
- Original Message -
From: Joseph Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: idea=$395.00USD was: RE: Java IDE?
On Sat, 23 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At about
cause I am not convinced at all that it is better that
JDev9i
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joseph
Ottinger
Sent: 24 March 2002 12:50
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: idea=$395.00USD was: RE: Java IDE?
On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, The Boss wrote
At 12:18 AM 3/24/2002, you wrote:
You can't afford $400?!? where the hell are all you
cheap bastards working that you can't scrape up $400?
I think you all need to focus a little harder on
working and spending less time looking at porn; then
maybe you could get a job that would afford you a
I believe it comes down to the individual requirements of the developer.
You can discuss it till your blue in the face, but if it doesn't fill
comfortable, then, like most users, you won't use it. Go with what feels
right for you and don't be to swayed with what other people think.
I've been
Subject: Re: idea=$395.00USD was: RE: Java IDE?
From: Vic Cekvenich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
==I tried CodeGuide, and like it, based on a post in this thread here.
I used to use NetBeans.
Thanks,
Vic
Noah Nordrum wrote:
You can't afford $400?!? where the hell are all you
cheap bastards working
IDEA has rediculously high ROI. And it's normally high
productivity is skyrocketed if you are refactoring
because of all the advanced refactoring features it
has.
IDEA was written by people who apparently actually use
the editor they're selling. JBuilder is probably used
for JBuilder,
Hi Jarrod,
I would like to share some IBM insights with you relevant to some of
your comments ...
So anyone that chants the FREE mantra keep using Tomcat and Vi and
all the other free crap because in the end it will cost you
HUNDREDS TIMES more than buying a proper tool and saving
PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Shane Whitehead
Sent: Monday, 25 March 2002 8:21 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: idea=$395.00USD was: RE: Java IDE?
I believe it comes down to the individual requirements of the
developer. You can discuss it till your blue in the face
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 5:57 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: idea=$395.00USD was: RE: Java IDE?
Hi Joe,
I usually build tools to build tools so I mostly can't afford
to accept other people's design philosophies. Thus the tools of
choice for me are the simplest because
Of The Boss
Sent: Monday, 25 March 2002 10:27 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Cc: Jarrod Roberson
Subject: OK, here's Real World: was: idea=$395.00USD was: RE:
Java IDE?
Hi Jarrod,
I would like to share some IBM insights with you relevant to some of
your comments ...
So anyone that chants
What about JCreator? Have you tried?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Geoff Soutter
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 6:35 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: idea=$395.00USD was: RE: Java IDE?
Go Shane!
This is one of the few sensible posts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
nOn Sat, 23 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi,
At about $800.00 AUD (roughly=$395.00 USD) I'd forget all
about idea ... what about some ide's with sensible prices? I
realised JBuilder was a waste of time after using it for
years, and
Did you actually try it out or did you just check the prices? If you
spend more than one hour a day writing java, I would say that IDEA is
worth that money, even if it has to come from my own pockets.
Naturally I would always try to get someone else to pay for it, such as
my employer, but that
On Sat, 23 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At about $800.00 AUD (roughly=$395.00 USD)
I'd forget all about idea ... what about
some ide's with sensible prices? I realised
*looks at from header, notes orion-interest*
Um, dude... you're using a commercial product. Why? Typically, because the
I use Visual Slick Edit ant really like it. It is pretty simple, supports
vi, emacs, cua, etc... emulation, does tagging for java, jsp, html, xml,
c/c++, and syntax highlighting. One thing I really like is that it doesn't
lock you in to a certain JDK, you can install a new JDK and re-create
like idea the most by far. It's *only* problem is that
it's price prohibitive.
-Clay
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Fredrik
Lindgren
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 7:14 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: idea=$395.00USD was: RE: Java
. Marz 2002 17:50
An: Orion-Interest
Betreff: RE: idea=$395.00USD was: RE: Java IDE?
I personally have been using idea for a couple weeks - It's a great app.
The price is a little over the top - $400? Sorry, but I don't have the
extra cash to pony up for it - as for work, JBuilder
Hi Joe,
I usually build tools to build tools so I mostly can't afford
to accept other people's design philosophies. Thus the tools of
choice for me are the simplest because they have the least
conceptual overhead. Put it like this, I am NOT interested in
making the most out of something like
:14 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: idea=$395.00USD was: RE: Java IDE?
Did you actually try it out or did you just check
the prices? If you
spend more than one hour a day writing java, I would
say that IDEA is
worth that money, even if it has to come from my own
pockets. Naturally
I
hi,
At about $800.00 AUD (roughly=$395.00 USD)
I'd forget all about idea ... what about
some ide's with sensible prices? I realised
JBuilder was a waste of time after using it
for years, and waking up to the fact that
I only used it to package classes anyway. I
bet people who are recommending
22 matches
Mail list logo
