I have a dumb question... Whats an EAR file?
Thanks...
Jim
--On Wednesday, May 03, 2000 11:09 AM +0100 "Robert Keith (UK)"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Guys,
Can I use the J2EE SDK tool to create EAR files and then use these EAR
files with Orion?
If so can you guys point me in the
Hi All...
I have been looking for an inexpensive EJB development/deployment platform.
Orion looks to be a good choice, especially since it fully implements EJB
1.1.
My question, though, has to do using the EJB server without the web server
portion. I need an EJB server that can have client
Hi All...
A look through the archives seems to indicate this question is often asked
but I didn't see an answer...
Two people here have spent the afternoon trying to deploy EJB beans under
orion. No luck.
Is there any documentation or guide, beyond the docs that came with Orion,
available?
Hi All...
I was wondering if Orion supports TLS in addition to just SSL?
Thanks!
Jim
I agree with all these comments... As a new Orion user, I'm most interested
in seeing live samples that do more than the most basic things. Also, I
have had the most trouble with deployment. So, several good, easy to follow
source samples with deployment descriptors and the deployment
I don't fully understand the Orion primer either. In particular, I don't
understand the directory structure. Does each servlet need its own
directory?
I could really benefit from a more comprehensive guide to what goes where,
including stateless and statefull session beans, entity beans, and
t it) and hit create or save
button (can't remember)
Presto!
Mike
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Archer
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 3:50 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: 1.2 GUI tools - Do they work?
Hi All...
I have
Here's the URL for the latest version of the Jakarta Struts User's Guide:
http://jakarta.apache.org/cvsweb/index.cgi/~checkout~/jakarta-struts/web/do
cumentation/users_guide.html
Be aware that this link actually checks it out of publicly accessible CVS
in order to display it in your browser.
Thanks to all who replied.
Acually, my original message was not too well written. I was not concerned
about the port mapping issue. Thats not a big deal. We already have that
issue with other processes, such as Apache, which runs as user nobody.
Our issue is where to install Orion, what
Hi All...
I'm currious to know what database products people are using with Orion,
open source or commerical. Also, please include any comments about problems
if you have had any, or anything thats really great.
Thanks!
Jim
Hi David...
If Orion server is used in conjunction with a database that does not
support transactions, then are transactions lost to the EJB server, or does
Orion somehoe provide that capability?
Thanks...
Jim
--On Friday, September 29, 2000 9:12 PM -0400 David Morton
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi All...
Is the implementation of the draft EJB 2.0 spec in Orion 1.3.8 complete
with respect to the draft, Including EJB QL and 1-n E relationships?
Thanks...
Jim
Hi All...
I'm trying to build the ATM example that came with Orion 1.3.8. The stupid
build question is, what do I have to put in the CLASSPATH to get it to
build? I can't get the AccountEJB.java file to build, since it can't find
javax.ejb.
I expect I don't include anything from the J2EE RI,
OOPS... Never mind. It was a stupid question.
Sorry for wasting your bandwidth.
Jim
--On Saturday, September 30, 2000 10:45 PM -0400 Jim Archer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All...
I'm trying to build the ATM example that came with Orion 1.3.8. The
stupid build question is, what do I have
/defaultWebApp/persistence/
WR
-Original Message-
From: Jim Archer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: den 3 oktober 2000 08:40
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Can't create x.jsp.jspCache files
Hi All...
When we run Orion under Debian Linux as user orion where orion has
permission
When you change ownership to a normal user, do you find that Orion has
difficulty creating the JSP cache files?
Jim
--On Friday, October 06, 2000 10:33 AM -0700 Sach Jobb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
We use something very similar to this, only we change the ownership to a
normal user.
On
Hi All...
I'm using Orion 1.3.8 and EJB 2.0 for CMP.
I have written a fairley simple stateless session bean that's job is to
just create a particular entity bean and populate it. This session bean is
called from a servlet.
When the session bean calls create on the home interface object of
Check out the Orion primer and Orion CMP primer at:
http://www.jollem.com
These are great starting points for making EJBs and deploying them. In
particular, pay attention to the ant build files (build.xml) to learn how
to package up the .ear file and its components.
Good luck.
Jim
--On
Hello Vivek...
--On Monday, October 16, 2000 10:20 PM -0500 Vivek Iyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The error I get is (ultimately):
D:\vivek\pricing\ejb\productjava ProductClient
Communication error: Error reading application-client descriptor: No
location specified and no suitable instance
Hi Greg...
You won't find this messsage too helpfull, except that I can tell you it
can be done. I tried it and got it to work. I did so be searching the
archives.
I no longer have the code I slapped together, or else I would sent it to
you. Bu the answer is in the mail list archive.
Good
The lack of self starters? Here? You have GOT to be kidding!
--On Tuesday, October 17, 2000 8:11 AM -0400 "Joseph B. Ottinger"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or, of course, orionsupport.com, which I know at least two other people
might be working on, and I'm considering reviving it myself.
Actually, I think the mail list is fine. I use a filter to move these
messages into their own folder.
However, I do feel that some improvement is possible. I recomend splitting
the list into a few other lists. Probably the most obvious split is between
developers using Orion and administers
FYI, the Orion EJB 2.0 ATM example does use JMS. It uses a MessageDriven
bean to implement loogging.
--On Tuesday, October 17, 2000 12:24 PM -0700 Luis M Bernardo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't remember whether the atm example uses jms but orion comes with
jms. comment out the jms entry
/ejb-relationship-role
/ejb-relation
/relationships
assembly-descriptor
security-role
descriptionUsers/description
role-nameusers/role-name
/security-role
/assembly-descriptor
/ejb-jar
--On Tuesday, October 17, 2000 11:32
Message-
From: Jim Archer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 1:54 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Cc: Jeff Schnitzer
Subject: RE: Please help! I get null pointer exception after calling
createonan EB with EJB 2.0 CMP Orion 1.3.8...
OK, here is the code and deployment
Hi Jeff...
Thats odd. I don't have cmp-version 2.x /cmp-version specified anywhere
in my descriptor. Nor do I have any indication in my application.xml file
that it should use EJB 2.0. And, as you know, I also have a bunch of EJB
2.0 CMP entity beans.
I started my ejb-jar.xml file by copying
Hi All...
I'm just wondering if dependent object classes in Orion 1.4.0 work as laid
out in the EJB 2.0 PD2 spec.
I have been trying to get it to work as the spec says but have gotton a
number of errors from Orion when I start it, mostly complaining that the
get/set methods for the dependent
cmp-version2.x/cmp-version to the entity
area. You don't need the ejb2 DTD.
-tim
-Original Message-
From: Jim Archer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 2:54 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Do EJB 2.0 dependent object classes work as per the spec?
Hi All
Hello all...
--On Friday, October 20, 2000 5:35 PM -0300 "Juan Lorandi (Chile)"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And also, lack of support documentation is becoming now, as most
developers are finishing
their work and reach deployment time(from what I pick up of many mails in
this list), a
What types of relationships do you feel EJB 2.0 can't adequately support? I
have been studying 2.0 CMP carefully, and it seems to be quite powerfull.
There may be holes in it, but it can handle the majority of real works
cases.
Jim
--On Friday, October 20, 2000 12:28 PM -0700 [EMAIL
Kevin, your "Home interface" class, the LoginHome object, should have a
create() method. In fact, you can have several create methods if you like,
each with a different parameter list (yes, you can have no create methids,
but thats a special case no relevant here). The Orion primer does show a
Hi All...
After being told that Orion supports the PD1 spec for EJB 2.0 dependent
objects I went through the PD1 spec carefully and compared it to the PD2
spec and changed my code accordingly. In fact, I have created a very
stripped down example that fails. I also have looked carefully at the
?
The OrionSupport team will love you for it ;)
Mike
-Original Message-
From: Jim Archer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 1:18 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Cc: Mike Cannon-Brookes
Subject: RE: Orion in production - autoupdate tool
Actually, I'm not sure the auto-update tool
elp all of us better understand how to do CMP with
perhaps complex RDBMS entity relationships?
Thanks,
Cory
At 09:07 PM 10/20/00 -0400, Jim Archer wrote:
What types of relationships do you feel EJB 2.0 can't adequately
support? I have been studying 2.0 CMP carefully, and it seems to
Hi Kevin...
Accessing entity beans through session beans is usually the recomended
procedure, but it does depend on what your doing.
Jim
--On Sunday, October 22, 2000 10:32 AM -0700 "Duffey, Kevin"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks.
Good news...I used ANT 1.1 and made a simple build
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!
That was the problem! I sure wish I had seen that. I compared my
descriptor to the sample many times and missed that each time. I guess
thats what I get for working all night ;-)
Seriousely Earl, I can't thank you enough!
I
Hi All...
As I mentioned in an earlier message, I have some working example code that
has an EJB 2.0 CMP entity bean working with both one-to-one and one-to-many
unidirectional relationships.
Next, I want to change the one-to-many relationship to be bidirectional. I
expected this to be a
Hi All...
I just thought I would put this out in case anyone finds it usefull to tuck
away for future use.
For about an hour now, I have been getting an "Internal error" on
deployment. The error complained that the persistence type was not set for
one of my fields in an EB that participated
Santosh, if your using the exact same source and descriptor files from the
primer, the error is most likely the location of everything in the archive.
I would suggest that you use some zip tool to examint the archive built by
the ant file and aloso your own to see how they differ.
Once you
Paul, be sure to bugzilla that, if you don't mind. The Orion folks have
said that bad error messages should be Bugzillaed. There is a link to
Bugzilla from the OrionServer.com homepage.
I have had silmilar trouble with cryptic error messages, so I'm kind of on
an unofficial campeign to report
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Archer
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 4:22 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: EJB 2.0 Dependent bidirectional relationships not working
Hi All...
As I mentioned in an earlier message, I have some working example
code that
has an EJB 2.0 CMP entity bean working
Remember that your EJB-REF tage are scoped within each bean, so that the
same tag name can refer to different things, depending upon which bean it
is defined in. So, my guess is that you didn't include an EJB-REF tag *in
the bean definition* for the bean you want to reference.
If thats not
Except that neither of those products have any portion of EJB 2.0 released.
We are building on EJB 2.0 in teh hope that by the time we are done we'll
see the spec final and Orion supporting it.
Jim
--On Monday, October 27, 2003 7:52 AM -0500 Keith Kwiatek
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Probably
Does anyone here have any experience with Interbase in a production
environment? We are trying to decide which database to deploy in
production. Since we are a very low budget operation, we are looking at
Open Source, but somehow missed this one.
Our most important requirements are stability,
If your running Microsoft IE as your browser, be sure to turn off the
"friendly error messages" option in that browser. Then, you'll get a good
error message from Orion that will help you diagnose your problem.
--On Thursday, October 26, 2000 11:53 PM -0700 Yi Su [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi Kevin...
I have apps in which a servlet creates a stateless session bean that in
turn creates an entity bean (or finds one that exists). It runs fine. My
guess is that you have a deployment descriptor error if you get a nameing
exception. Cjheck all your EJB-REF tags and remember that they
easy read..not to mention short! Can you point me
to any docs, tutorials, etc that explain EJB 2.0, the differences, etc?
Thanks.
-Original Message-----
From: Jim Archer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 2:59 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Cc: Duffey, Kevin
Subject: RE:
d Weblogic are not the only two servers with some EJB 2.0
support. Kevin, check out http://www.theserverside.com for details.
Cheers!
Jim
--On Friday, October 27, 2000 8:17 PM -0400 Jim Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi Kevin...
Currently, the only good source of info on how to develop f
roughly.
Colin
-Original Message-
From: Jim Archer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 10:26 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Cc: Jonas Larsson
Subject: Anyone using Interbase in production?
Does anyone here have any experience with Interbase in a production
environment
Keith, I don't think Orion ships with such a tool. However, I do believe
CocoBase does this. Have a look at:
http://www.thoughtinc.com/
Jim
--On Monday, October 27, 2003 7:14 AM -0500 Keith Kwiatek
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello
Does Orion have a tool that will allow you to generate
Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe if you put something in the subject line
like "I WANT TO GIVE YOU MONEY" it will get their attention :-)
Good luck!
Jim
--On Monday, October 30, 2000 5:58 PM -0700 J Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Does anyone have any contact information for Orion. We have
Fabio, thats not necesserally important. Many servers keep session beans
lieing around to avoide the performance penality of creating them when they
are needed. They are frequently moved from quickly client to client inside
the container.
I don't know how Orion handles this specifficially,
If you have tried to solve it and can not, go ahead and file a bug report
on it. The Orion team members have pointed out that they frequently don't
read every message on this list and the preferred method of communication
in a case like this is Bugzilla.
Good luck!
Jim
--On Monday, October
John, one possibility is that if your using Microsoft Internet Explorer,
you have the "display friendly error messages" option enabled and, as a
result, the real error from Orion is being hidden by the browser.
If this is the case, you'll be a happy camper after disabling that option.
I sure
And I just filed bug 153 reporting that EJB 2.0 dependent object
bidirectional relationships fail. I attached a sample program to the bug
for anyone who would like to try it out for themselves.
Jim
--On Monday, October 30, 2000 3:58 AM -0500 Jason Rimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I've
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Jim,
Thanks for the suggestion but I don't think that is the problem.
I do sometimes get compilation errors displayed in my browser, but not
always.
Is there no Orion logging facility for things like this?
Johnny
-Original Message-
From: Jim Archer [mailto
Except, of course, for those of us who can't access a news server through
our company firewalls. For us, it would be a major headache...
Jim
--On Monday, November 06, 2000 12:47 PM -0800 "Duffey, Kevin"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree! Using a newsgroup is a grand idea! Sure would make the
Thanks, everyone, for the heads up! I guess I'll be waiting for 1.4.3!
Jim
--On Tuesday, November 07, 2000 3:31 PM -0500 Russ White [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Updated and get same wrapper exception.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
EEK!
Axel, I have not yet tried to verify this and am not dure how to work
around it, but if you are sure please Bugzilla it as soon as possible. I
was just reviewing the bug list and saw that Magnus seems to be making
excellent progress in cleaning up the EJB 2.0 persistence manager
, November 08, 2000 5:17 PM +0100 Runar Svendsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can always get the latest version of Orion by running
java -jar autoupdate.jar
in the orion dir.
Runar.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Archer
Sent: 7
First, you are free to have seperate client threads access the same
instance of a SLSB via its remote interface. This will work fine.
However, I don't know why you would want to do that. One of the nice things
the EJB server is supposed to do for you is to manage the life cycle of its
beans.
Hi Tim...
I'll take a stab at trying to help with this. I have done a lot of work
with dependent objects.
First, using Orion 1.4.0 I found that unidirectional dependents work as
they should (when an EB has dependents). If you have an EB with dependents
in a 1-to-1 relationship, Orion will
nameEdiEnvelope/dependent-name
/role-source
cmr-field
cmr-field-nameediFile/cmr-field-name
/cmr-field
/ejb-relationship-role
/ejb-relation
-Original Message-
From: Jim Archer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 1:14 PM
To: Orion-In
, November 10, 2000 2:54 PM -0500 Tim Drury
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I did put that in. In fact, it was your examples
that I based all my development on :)
I just don't see any differences between your
descriptor file and mine.
-tim
-Original Message-
From: Jim Archer [mailto
.
ALSO: do you (or anyone on the list) have a copy of
the ejb 2.0 pd1 spec? I have pd2 and pdFinal, but
not the one that Orion is based on. Maybe that would
help me find my problem. I couldn't find pd1 on the
sun site.
-tim
-Original Message-
From: Jim Archer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
Karl, sounds like great news. Congrats!
I'm wondering if any major changes in licensing or pricing policy are
coming within the next several or six months?
Thanks...
Jim
--On Thursday, December 07, 2000 1:20 PM +0100 Karl Avedal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I thought it was time for
You might want to go to:
http://www.orionsupport.com
And grab the simple EJB 2.0 sample...
Jim
--On Friday, December 08, 2000 4:02 PM -0500 Peter Pontbriand
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello All.
We've just written our first pair of 2.0-spec EJBs and are experiencing
some really strange
more support. There's no date set for when
this will be available yet.
We do not plan any changes to the normal license, neither in cost nor
terms. And it will still be free for developers and for non-commercial
use.
Regards,
Karl Avedal
Jim Archer wrote:
Karl, sounds like great news
I have a few examples that are much more complex than the one I wrote on
OrionSupport. Let me clean them up and I'll post them here...
Jim
--On Monday, January 08, 2001 5:45 AM -0800 Darren Pamatat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Konstantin Polyzois [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
"Servlet/JDBC
Hi Sach...
Do you remember the version of the driver you had to hack? Also, could you
share the changes with us?
Jim
--On Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:08 AM -0800 Sach Jobb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
We had a problem with either timestamp or date (i can't remember which
now) with the
Hi Daniel...
I believe I have also been unable to make this work. Let me double check. I
don't recall the exact problem I had but I think there is one. I'll check...
Jim
--On Tuesday, January 23, 2001 1:58 PM -0500 Daniel Cardin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone managed to build EJB 2.0
Hi Joe...
I noticed that OrionSupport has been down for a few days. If there is a
problem, is there anything I can do to help? I have some resoureces
available...
Jim
Hello all...
Many people have written me requesting I provide an EJB 2.0 CMP example
that uses a dependent object. To all who asked, I apologize for the delay.
I have sent it to Joe for posting on OrionSupport, and it is right now
available at:
http://www.archer.net/Test20CmpDo.zip
This
OOPS...
Sorry list... This was supposed to go to Joe personally...
Jim
--On Wednesday, January 24, 2001 3:11 PM -0500 Jim Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi Joe...
I noticed that OrionSupport has been down for a few days. If there is a
problem, is there anything I can do to help? I have
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Archer
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 9:50 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: EJB 2.0 Dependent object example now available
Hello all...
Many people have written me requesting I provide an EJB 2.0
CMP example
that uses a dependent object. To all who
Hi All...
As promised, the EJB 2.0 CMP example with 1 to many EB to dependent
relationships is available. Its posted at:
http://www.archer.net/test20CmpDoOM.zip
Please let me know if you have any problems with it.
Jim
Depends upon what features your using. Version 1.4.5 broke some EJB 2.0 CMP
stuff. You may want to check the bug list and see if there is anything
reported that would be a problem for you.
Jim
--On Tuesday, January 30, 2001 1:14 PM +0100 Randahl Fink Isaksen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am
Hi All...
I just ran my EJB 2.0 CMP Do OM example through Orion 1.4.6. It breaks with
the error pasted below. I just thought I would let everyone know...
Jim
EmailDo_ORCollection5.java:294: String not terminated at end of line.
"n
^
EmailDo_ORCollection5.java:294: Invalid expression
Hi All...
The Test20CmoDO.zip example, which shows how to have a dependent object in
EJB 2.0, is also broken under Orion 1.4.6. I have filed bugzilla reports
for both this one and the Test20CmpDoOM.zip example I mentioned earlier.
Test20Cmp.zip seems to still work.
Jim
FYI, all three of the EJB 2.0 CMP examples work with Orion 1.4.7. Thanks
guys for fixing that so quickly!
Jim
I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I -
I took the one less traveled by,
Hi All...
Does anyone know if many to many relationships between EBs is implemented
on Orion 1.4.7?
I was going to write a bit of code to test it, but my laziness got the
better part of me and I was hopeing someone else had already discovered
this and could save me a bit of work ;-)
Thanks!
2.0 entity beans using CMP and using Orion specific features?
I would appreciate any help on this...
Thanks!
Jim
--On Thursday, February 08, 2001 8:47 AM +0100 Magnus Rydin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi,
no, its not there yet. :(
-Ursprungligt meddelande-
Frn: Jim Archer [mailto
In the case of the web server, in the config directory is an XML file in
which you set that.
Go to Orion's web site and read the installation instructions. The long
version tells you exactly what to set.
Jim
--On Thursday, February 08, 2001 3:32 PM +0530 Mohit Palhan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I apologize that this is off topic, but its probably of interest to
everyone here. For anyone interestred in EJB 2.0, there is a great book
available at:
http://www.mvcsoft.com
Its included in their persistence manager product. BTW, that persistence
manager is a complete implementation of
No.
--On Monday, February 12, 2001 11:02 PM -0600 Christian Billen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there any implementation of EJB-QL at this time in the 1.4.7 code?
Thanks,
Christian
As the lower cost and open source products continue to mature, we may see
prices come down. Check out The server side today.
http://www.theserverside.com
JIm
--On Tuesday, February 13, 2001 6:37 PM -0600 Kemp Randy-W18971
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't knock the higher priced products,
Everyone on this thread has made excellant points. To me, the issue for
this list is not the best way for these people to train on EJB. Thats for
them (and then their customers) to decide, and I am disinterested. I think
the point here is that Orion was asked a question and didn't reply. A
The EJB 2.0 support is my big question. Currently, there is none.
Jim
--On Wednesday, February 14, 2001 3:37 PM -0800 Jeff Schnitzer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's an interesting question. The investor story is not good - they
recently terminated their CEO/President and CFO, restated a
Hi All...
Does anyone know why Orion is listening on port 23791?
Thanks...
Jim
I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I -
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the
Yes, I know why they are there...
At one point with some version of Orion way back when, failing to
initialize the fields to something caused an error (I don't remember
exactly what error) when the bean was persisted or activated or something
like that. Much of my code from which pieces of
Heck, I would love to know a guess on when the darned spec will be available! The
sooner the better!
Jim
--On Friday, February 23, 2001 9:15 AM -0500 Michael A Third [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the reply. We were already doing this, and I realized how
repetitive it was and hoped
Denis, this is way overstating the "compliance" of both Orion and Weblogic.
Both of these servers have substantial issues with adherence to the
proposed final draft. Both lack some features and implement others
incorrectly or incompletely.
Any examples you see that are written to demonstrate
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