Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-06-04 Thread James Killian
the main reason I would want to go in this way... is to offer a solution that could benefit many. - Original Message - From: "Jean-Sébastien Guay" To: "OpenSceneGraph Users" Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-06-04 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay
Hi James, In short... I do not want to challenge the current workflow of either paradigms, but rather describe how both are well-defined, and maybe there are others out there who would like to see how we are doing it, when/if we offer a submission. Thanks for explaining where you're coming f

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-06-04 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay
Hi Rick, > I even gave you a batch file that would do some of that automatically, and it's easy to supplement that with a couple more commands that will do it all automatically (see below). You did? Maybe I missed it. Could you please send it again? This does not look nearly as hard as I

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-06-03 Thread rpingry
Oh, and about being apologetic; I have seen posts on the forum where people are grousing that make me feel that people are just not thankful for how great this all is. I never wanted anyone to think I am not grateful for OSG (or your time for trying to explain it to me). I can see that there mos

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-06-03 Thread rpingry
> I even gave you a batch file that would do some of that automatically, and it's easy to supplement that with a couple more commands that will do it all automatically (see below). You did? Maybe I missed it. Could you please send it again? This does not look nearly as hard as I had imagined. P

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-06-02 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay
Hi Rick, I just want to be clear: I am not saying the way it is now is the only way. I'm just saying that it works well enough for lots (and lots, and lots) of people. I don't want to start a tug of war of whose way is better... The fact is, in my personal situation, the version numbers on e

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-06-02 Thread James Killian
t;OpenSceneGraph Users" Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure? Hi Rick, I don't think I quite communicated what I meant to say in the end there. I am not super bothered by the whole naming thing, just a bit irritate

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-06-02 Thread rpingry
If the switch were the default sure. Right now there IS a switch with a name that infers it would do what I want, but it just doesn't work and in fact breaks other things. That switch is off by default (or ON I should say, adding versioning info to the DLL's). It is even an advanced switch that

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-06-02 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay
Hi Rick, I don't think I quite communicated what I meant to say in the end there. I am not super bothered by the whole naming thing, just a bit irritated and in my organization I think it causes more problems that it is worth. I was hoping that perhaps with the power of CMake that someone h

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-06-02 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay
Hi Rick, It seems like there is all this effort going towards just keeping people from picking up the wrong version of the DLLs. How often does that happen anyway? Until these mechanisms were put into place, every week there would be several reports of crashes and other weird behavior that

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-06-02 Thread rpingry
I don't think I quite communicated what I meant to say in the end there. I am not super bothered by the whole naming thing, just a bit irritated and in my organization I think it causes more problems that it is worth. I was hoping that perhaps with the power of CMake that someone had already prov

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-06-02 Thread rpingry
> With the command line SVN it's easy to script whatever you want. I really > think you're making a mountain out of an ant hill. It's useful > functionality, and all it takes on your side is a few more steps (not that > often, unless you recompile OSG extremely often) or a little scripting. > > But

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-06-02 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay
Hi Rick, History is not all that helpful anyway since they are binaries. I didn't mean the diff between files, but the update history. It's useful to know that this file was updated from OSG 2.6 to OSG 2.8 on a given date. That way if you started having problems with a given loader on a gi

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-06-02 Thread rpingry
> So yes, either delete the old one and add the new one or rename the directory and then checkin the updated plugin DLLs over the old ones... That is unfortunate :( > (which is not exactly the same thing, it preserves history, so SVN will know they're actually the same files). History is not all t

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-06-02 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay
Hi Rick, Well, which Plugin directory am I supposed to add? If I add a particular plugin directory with a given name, and then I do an update and the plugin version changes, then the folder name is not the same anymore. Do I add the new plugin folder and delete the old one? Perhaps use SVN

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-06-01 Thread rpingry
> Why is it hard? Just svn add the whole directory, that should add all contents and subdirectories by default... Unless I'm missing something? Well, which Plugin directory am I supposed to add? If I add a particular plugin directory with a given name, and then I do an update and the plugin versi

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-06-01 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay
Hi Rick, So for the examples, is there any way to set the Working Directory for debugging? It is actually pretty easy to select all of the apps and examples and then set properties for all configurations at one time, so that is not such a big deal, but I was curious. I don't know of any way

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-06-01 Thread rpingry
> You say your examples are in bin\Release. This is not the case for me; there > is no bin\Release in my build dir. The release build of my osganimate.exe > file is in "\bin". Not sure why yours would be elsewhere, but > this appears to be the source of your problem. What CMake variables did you >

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-05-31 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay
Hello Rick, > Once you've run the ALL_BUILD target (or INSTALL, which depends on ALL_BUILD) then the examples will find the plugins just fine, you can run them with F5 no problem. I am not finding this to be the case. When running with F5 or Ctrl-F5, VS runs the example from where it compi

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-05-29 Thread Paul Martz
> I am not finding this to be the case. When running with F5 or Ctrl-F5, > VS runs the example from where it compiled to, NOT where the INSTALL > project sends it. In my case, "bin\Release\". I'm not able to reproduce this problem, Rick. To test, I blew away my installed OSG (deleted C:\Progr

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-05-29 Thread rpingry
> I have recopied email in plain text below: > > James Killian > - Original Message - From: "James Killian" < > james_kill...@hotmail.com> > To: "OpenSceneGraph Users" > Cc: "Rick Pingry" > Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 10:25 PM > > Subjec

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-05-29 Thread James Killian
microsoft to do something about it) : ( I have recopied email in plain text below: James Killian - Original Message - From: "James Killian" To: "OpenSceneGraph Users" Cc: "Rick Pingry" Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [osg-users] Can I ch

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-05-28 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay
Hi James, Again with the black background and black text in your message... very hard to read. I thought you'd fixed this? :-) J-S -- __ Jean-Sebastien Guayjean-sebastien.g...@cm-labs.com http://www.cm-labs.

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-05-28 Thread James Killian
Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure? Hello Rick, > I have noticed that for the past little while the plugins are compiled > to their own directory with the version number. I am not quite sure why > this is beneficial, it seems like you would

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-05-28 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay
Hi Paul, You don't have to be on this list very long to see the same question pop up multiple times. I'm guilty of it myself. :-) Sure, but I prefer to remind people that the archives exist, while at the same time giving answers to their questions, rather than "let it slide". I figure it's m

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-05-28 Thread Paul Martz
> Incidentally, this has been discussed a lot in the past, so searching the > archives would have turned up all this info You don't have to be on this list very long to see the same question pop up multiple times. I'm guilty of it myself. :-) -Paul _

Re: [osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-05-28 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay
Hello Rick, I have noticed that for the past little while the plugins are compiled to their own directory with the version number. I am not quite sure why this is beneficial, it seems like you would always want the plugins compiled with the version of OSG you have compiled, and it seems that

[osg-users] Can I change the plugin directory structure?

2009-05-28 Thread rpingry
Hello All, I have noticed that for the past little while the plugins are compiled to their own directory with the version number. I am not quite sure why this is beneficial, it seems like you would always want the plugins compiled with the version of OSG you have compiled, and it seems that havin