Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

2020-02-09 Thread Jake Yeager via OSList
Thanks again everyone! <3 When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and you will be free of problems. - Robert Adams On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 10:40 PM Michael Herman wrote: > Missed this earlier, Jake. Sometimes

Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

2020-02-08 Thread Michael Herman via OSList
Missed this earlier, Jake. Sometimes review starts at the end of the last session and gives last conveners a little extra time to write their notes up. Sometimes, in one-day sessions, I've used the gallery approach that mmp invented years ago. Give each breakout space flipchart paper, but give

Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

2020-02-08 Thread Jake Yeager via OSList
Hey Michael Pannwitz, I had Michael Herman in mind, but I'd love to extend the question to everyone. Thanks for the question. :) Jake When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and you will be free of problems. - Robert Adams

Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

2020-02-08 Thread Michael M Pannwitz via OSList
Jake, which Michael are your thinking of? mmp Am 08.02.2020 um 18:13 schrieb Jake Yeager via OSList: Michael and Chris - do you allot time to review the notes prior to organizing them? Thanks On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 10:14 AM Jake Yeager > wrote: Again, a

Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

2020-02-08 Thread Jake Yeager via OSList
Michael and Chris - do you allot time to review the notes prior to organizing them? Thanks On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 10:14 AM Jake Yeager wrote: > Again, a bunch of great ideas and perspectives on this thread. > > After considering it more, I am going to propose to the sponsor that we > adjust

Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

2020-02-08 Thread Jake Yeager via OSList
Again, a bunch of great ideas and perspectives on this thread. After considering it more, I am going to propose to the sponsor that we adjust our convergence process. Per Michael and Chris's suggestions, I will propose that participants organize the notes into themes. This will assist

Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

2020-02-07 Thread Ilan Kirschenbaum via OSList
Extending this to an Open Space format, let the structure guide the outcomes. For example, have the session summary sheets have, in addition to topic, convener and participants, titles for Main Objective and for Key Results. You may wish to add (see if you can find about 3 SMART key results) - if

Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

2020-02-06 Thread Chris Corrigan via OSList
No... If the sponsor already knows which OKR’s will matter, then that would be “pre-set” answers, and I would forget about open space. But specifying that “we are trying to generate new OKRs” is a fine invitation, because it’s open and the sponsor should be generally curious about what will

Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

2020-02-06 Thread Birgitt Williams via OSList
Hi Jake, i believe it is helpful to conceptualize that the OST meeting is what takes place, and it supports divergent, innovative thinking, creativity, play. Then, when you get to the balance of what you are setting out to do which I am assuming is on the .5 day following the full OST day, you are

Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

2020-02-06 Thread Jake Yeager via OSList
Ok. Just one final email (I suspect). I think it'd be good to have the closing circle prior to all the convergence. This is so participants have a clear demarcation between open space and the other activities. Thanks again On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:01 AM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <

Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

2020-02-06 Thread Jake Yeager via OSList
Reviewing again this article by Diane Blair. She mentions two critical success factors for Open Space. One is that the sponsor does not have "pre-set outcomes." Would generating OKRs be considered a pre-set outcome you

Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

2020-02-06 Thread Jake Yeager via OSList
Oops. It's 1.5 days I mean. When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and you will be free of problems. - Robert Adams On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:39 PM Jake Yeager wrote: > Thank you everyone for your feedback! It is

Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

2020-02-06 Thread Jake Yeager via OSList
Thank you everyone for your feedback! It is much welcomed, and you have provided a lot to chew on. It's such a treat to hear from experienced practitioners. Some info: - I have one day for the event - There are about 30 participants: assistant managers to the SVP - Objectives are

Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

2020-02-06 Thread Michael M Pannwitz via OSList
Dear Jake, seems there is a lot of stuff that you busy yourself with that might be better dealt with by the sponsor of the event and the Planning Group for the event. My experience is that after assisting the sponsor in finding out whether ost (check the 5 or so prerequisites) is what is

Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

2020-02-05 Thread Ilan Kirschenbaum via OSList
This discussion opened at a great time for me, as I am also working with a client that is making their first steps in making OKRs spread through the organization. Adding to the wonderful advice from everyone, you can make a structure that invites the desired outcome. For example, at the open

Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

2020-02-05 Thread Thomas Herrmann via OSList
Dear Jake I don’t fully understand, of course, but am wondering what the purpose/expected outcome is for this development process and also there must be no more than 3 O’s? I understand they are not yet defined, but should be identified/agreed on in the OST? My experience from similar

Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

2020-02-05 Thread Michael Herman via OSList
Worth noting, too, that everything Chris is suggesting moves the group forward and deeper into open space, supporting their continuing work in that way. Finishing OS with designed/selected liberating structures, on the other hand, seems to imply that they're not able to take the work forward

Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

2020-02-05 Thread Chris Corrigan via OSList
Building on this: In the past when a sponsor has been clear about content areas but hasn’t specified what can be discussed within them we did the following: 1. Make sure you have lots of people there, because diversity of experience and ideas is helpful. 2. Have the sponsor outline the

Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

2020-02-05 Thread Michael Herman via OSList
yes to what's already been said. and... it sounds like the OS part is already happening, and you're asking about how to get from there to the sponsor's three objectives. if that's the question, i'd suggest it's simply two open spaces (perhaps loosely defined). the first OS runs as usual and

Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

2020-02-05 Thread R Chaffe via OSList
The sponsor must be quite clear as to the level of delegation they are willing to give to the participants. Then as Rolf says, you must choose if Open Space technology is the correct process. You may operate out of an Open Space mind set! Under promise and over deliver. Never try to

Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

2020-02-05 Thread Rolf F. Katzenberger via OSList
Hi Jake: Given the amount of control desired by the sponsor, and your playing with Liberating Structures , are you sure that Open Space is the most appropriate format for the desired outcome? I might be wrong: it looks like a regular workshop, designed around a suitable LS string, might work