Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

2019-06-26 Thread Michael M Pannwitz via OSList
Dear David, you are touching basic issues, which I enjoy. Getting to basic issues fuels a wider dialog. Yes, self-organizing has been around since the Big Bang, in everything. And it shows up regurlary and predictably in OST gatherings. Regardless of the conditions that are characteristic of

Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

2019-06-22 Thread Jake Yeager via OSList
Thank you everyone for your thought-provoking responses! A reflection: the more that I try to control, the more pain and dissonance that I bring to myself and the world. Thanks Daniel for the inside info on Zappos. Any idea what happened at Medium regarding its Holacracy experiment? Thanks,

Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

2019-06-21 Thread David Osborne via OSList
PS - I love the real case examples many thanks. David *David R. Osborne* Organization and Leadership Development 6402 Arlington Blvd., Suite 1120, Falls Church, VA 22042 703-939-1777 | dosbo...@change-fusion.com | change-fusion.com On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 6:39 AM Daniel Mezick via

Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

2019-06-21 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Yes, and ..this is all part of self-organization. Stability is being disrupted and people are using the law of two feet to make their choice as individual agents in the system. David *David R. Osborne* Organization and Leadership Development 6402 Arlington Blvd., Suite 1120, Falls Church,

Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

2019-06-21 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Rob, That is a beautiful description of self-organization. Thanks for sharing it. David *David R. Osborne* Organization and Leadership Development 6402 Arlington Blvd., Suite 1120, Falls Church, VA 22042 703-939-1777 | dosbo...@change-fusion.com | change-fusion.com On Fri, Jun 21,

Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

2019-06-21 Thread Harrison Owen via OSList
Jake, I think you may be asking the question from perhaps the wrong way around. My experience is that everything is self organizing. Including all organizations. Respected, and left to its own devices, Self organization does a marvelous job. Some wins, some loses, but basically things have

Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

2019-06-21 Thread Royle, Karl via OSList
ists.openspacetech.org>> Date: Friday, 21 June 2019 at 11:39 To: World wide Open Space Technology email list mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> Cc: Daniel Mezick mailto:d...@newtechusa.net>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization? I'm glad y

Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

2019-06-21 Thread Daniel Mezick via OSList
pen Space Technology email list > > Date: Friday, 21 June 2019 at 11:39 > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > > Cc: Daniel Mezick > Subject: Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization? > > > > I'm glad you find it useful, inter

Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

2019-06-21 Thread Royle, Karl via OSList
t; , World wide Open Space Technology email list Cc: Thomas Herrmann Subject: Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization? Hi Jake Thanks for posing the question. To me self organisation, just as others wrote, is just there. By building capacity to work in life nurt

Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

2019-06-21 Thread Royle, Karl via OSList
Date: Friday, 21 June 2019 at 11:39 To: World wide Open Space Technology email list Cc: Daniel Mezick Subject: Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization? I'm glad you find it useful, interesting etc. Every day worldwide, "Agile" is forced. All in the name of self-

Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

2019-06-21 Thread Thomas Herrmann via OSList
Hi Jake Thanks for posing the question. To me self organisation, just as others wrote, is just there. By building capacity to work in life nurturing ways and for a common purpose the power of self organisation can be made more ‘useful’. I believe and have experienced since many years, that good

Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

2019-06-21 Thread Daniel Mezick via OSList
I'm glad you find it useful, interesting etc. Every day worldwide, "Agile" is forced. All in the name of self-management and so on. You can imagine the results, and the harm to people. Here is one of the stories:

Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

2019-06-21 Thread ANTHI THEIOPOULOU via OSList
Hi Jake, This is a very good question, thank you! There is a lot of research around applications that failed. Here is an excerpt from the synthesis of literature that my research team did: Case Study: Numerous case studies report (e.g. Reeve and Peerbhoy, 2007) that the outstanding

Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

2019-06-21 Thread Michael M Pannwitz via OSList
Dear Jake and you others, I am intriguing myself with your quest for pitfalls in regard to "implement self-organization". If it is assumed that "self-organization" is inherent in all groups, organisations, systems and in all processes on this planet and in the universe and has been since the

Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

2019-06-21 Thread R Chaffe via OSList
Jake, By definition self organisation occurs despite any efforts to make it happen. Self means just that ie. it is about personal commitment to one’s self. When a system self organises those who are viewing it as if through a window wonders how? Then the question is why? In change again by

Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

2019-06-20 Thread Juliane Martina Roell (Structure & Process) via OSList
Jake Yeager via OSList schrieb am 20.06.19 um 19:31: Hey everyone, Does anyone know of organizations that attempted to implement self-organization but failed? If so, do you know some of the factors that contributed to the failure? We hear about the successes, like Semco and AES, but rarely

Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

2019-06-20 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Jake, I'm curious what you mean by implement self-organization? My reference point is that it's all self-organizing regarless of what a leader does and there are conditions that impact the nature of the self-organizing process to slow it down to a stand-still (control) or accelerate it etc. Do