Re: [ozmidwifery] Sleep Baby Sleep

2003-06-23 Thread Pinky McKay
I think you are right Marilyn - did anyone see Saturdays Age -re 25 year olds and the stress these women are under - career/ study etc -not at all about mothers, but add mothering, especially with unrealistic expectations,to this scenario and it would all be a slippery downhill slide. I

[ozmidwifery] Homebirth Australia Conference

2003-06-23 Thread Justine Caines
Title: Homebirth Australia Conference Dear All Looking forward to seeing everyone in Canberra, mark your diaries Now! The 22nd Homebirth Australia Conference November 1 2 2003 Canberra Australian National University Homebirth 2003: The Personal is the Political Stories of Homebirth

RE: [ozmidwifery] twilight delivery - or twilight baby?

2003-06-23 Thread Neretlis, Bethany
Denise, i think we have all looked after 'labouring' or birthing women who do not experience pain as anyone else would know it. i destinctly remember one woman who walked into my labour unit at 8cm with a few 'aches' (very mild suprapubic discomfort with contactions which had benn 15 minly, and

RE: [ozmidwifery] Sleep Baby Sleep

2003-06-23 Thread Jaqueline Marwick
I must agree with Pinky as well And I call it the CIO method, the old name which is really CRY IT OUT. Now they call it "controlled crying" so it sounds a bit less cruel. This is in fact the old CRY IT OUT method, which means parents are told to let their babies cry , cry, cry until there

Re: [ozmidwifery] Sleep Baby Sleep

2003-06-23 Thread Pinky McKay
Hi Jackie, Yes they certainly do have an audience - the avoiding eye contact is an integral part of sleep training - it is "justified' as reducing stimulation - ie put the baby facing away from you even as a tiny infant - how does this inspire trust? It seems such an uphill battle against

Re: [ozmidwifery] Sleep Baby Sleep

2003-06-23 Thread Pinky McKay
BTW -= my column in the current issue(June) of Practical Parenting is I Failed Sleep School -and the one just about to come out (July)is called "Joined at The Hip" -about Velcro babies and why carrying is good for babies. August isco-sleeping. I only get 500 words so its a tame approach (or

Re: [ozmidwifery] Sleep Baby Sleep

2003-06-23 Thread Alphia Garrety
Interesting conversations about this. I keep on thinking about the ideal of the superwoman, as I believe someone has mentioned before. Is our society creating permanent anxiety for everyone - especially women? The norms and values of our society seem to be geared toward the unattainable. The

[ozmidwifery] FW: midwives are the ideal for mothers

2003-06-23 Thread Julie Clarke
Hi everyone Yesterday I tried to get through on 2GB talk back radio but no luck Police Minister was their priority. Yesterday afternoon I tried to talk on ABC Radio National at 2.30pm but was in the queue till the news and no time left but Pat Brodie was excellent Below is my letter

Re: [ozmidwifery] increased costs for women

2003-06-23 Thread Ann green
Dear List, A friend's daughter was told she would have to pay out of her pocket $4,000!Ann --- Jo Dean Bainbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: women will have to pay and are already paying between $100 to $500 per pregnancy and will get higher!! I know many women who are finding they are having