RE: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-20 Thread Dean Jo
Love 'em all Brenda! Jo Bainbridge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of brendamanning Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 2:18 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units What about MMU Units Mothers

Re: [ozmidwifery] CPD

2005-09-20 Thread JoFromOz
brendamanning wrote: Hi listers,   A ? Do you think CPD is overdiagnosed ? If so how often would this misdiagnosis occur do you think ? Plus how often is it wrong ?   Any idea where I'd find this info ??   Brenda www.themidwife.com.au   Not sure about that,

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-20 Thread Janet Fraser
How about Evidence Based Care Centre? : ) J -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.

RE: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-20 Thread Tania Smallwood
I knew it was going to be a mild disaster Quite the opposite Sally, there are, Im sure, many of us out here who admire greatly your ability to think on your feet and point out that Sri Devis transfer illustrates exactly how the unit works, involving a tertiary centre in a safe and

Re: [ozmidwifery] CPD

2005-09-20 Thread Janet Fraser
I'll put my mind to work on this one. All I can say is that I hear it all the time from women with Obs (surprise, surprise) and most women I know have birthed larger subsequent babies but at home without obstetric *ahem* "wisdom". A friend was dx with CPD with her 8lber and then pushed out

Re: [ozmidwifery] Devonport

2005-09-20 Thread Kathy McCarthy-Bushby
Hi Brenda, Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] kathy - Original Message - From: Ping Bullock (G) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Devonport Hi Brenda, Try Ruth Forest of North West Private Hospital in Burnie which

Re: [ozmidwifery] Oral EPO dose for cervix?

2005-09-20 Thread Kathy McCarthy-Bushby
Hi Kelly, The website www.birthrites.org has a page on natural induction including information on EPO doses either orally or vaginally, nipple stimulation, accupressure (4 fingers above the inner aspect of the ankle bone). EPO, is great for women planning a vbac for ripening the cervix, but if she

RE: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-20 Thread Vedrana Valčić
Nick, I've had 30 years of experience and the disaster can come out of the clear blue sky in a patient who's been assessed as low risk and they happen in a heartbeat. They happen so rapidly that they are stunning. This is what we hear in Croatia as well. To my knowledge, this is true

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-20 Thread Pinky McKay
I agree totally with your comments Tania. Sally, you were fabulous. My daughter who is just pregnant (my first grandchild) called to remind me to watch this. She wasnt at all impressed with the scarved DR or frightened by his comments. She was present and involved at her baby brother's

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-20 Thread Rachele Meredith
- Original Message - From: Vedrana Valčić Nick, I've had 30 years of experience and the disaster can come out of the clear blue sky in a patient who's been assessed as low risk and they happen in a heartbeat. They happen so rapidly that they are stunning.

Re: [ozmidwifery] perinatal stats

2005-09-20 Thread Ceri Katrina
hahaha No Brenda, I was thinking the EXACT same thing so there is at least 2 of us admitting to the freaky sense of humour!! katrina :-) attachment: smallnps2.jpg www.niagaraparkshow.com.au On 20/09/2005, at 2:50 PM, brendamanning wrote: Every time I see the Dept of BDM mentioned I

Re: [ozmidwifery] CPD

2005-09-20 Thread brendamanning
Thank you BM - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] CPD I'll put my mind to work on this one. All I can say is that I hear it all the time from

Re: [ozmidwifery] perinatal stats

2005-09-20 Thread brendamanning
and then I try to figure out which BD M matches the bondage, domination or masochism equation ! Is it: Marriage=Bondage Deaths=Domination and Births=Masochism ??? Or is that just sick ?? Or as the kids would say "get a life Mum". Brenda - Original Message - From: Ceri

Re: [ozmidwifery] the 7.30 (to report or not report !) segment

2005-09-20 Thread Sally-Anne Brown
dear all - re the woman in mouriks care - just to clarify - twas a 28 hr labour - now is thatwhat they call fantabulous(?!?) obstetric care ? well done to sally tand leonie on their brilliant work - and especially to the women filmed - for all of them really - the journos wereobviously

Re: [ozmidwifery] wyong reopens

2005-09-20 Thread Sally-Anne Brown
congrats to you all and the women of wyong .. kind regards Sally-Anne - Original Message - From: diane To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 10:41 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] wyong reopens Hi everyone, Hot breaking

Re: [ozmidwifery] Wyong reopens

2005-09-20 Thread Justine Caines
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Wyong reopens Dear Diane Great news and good on you all the midwives fighting for women. I also extend a hearty thanks to Carol Chapman (NSW Pres of Maternity Coalition) and local Wyong women. Remember to keep supporting Maternity Coalition as there are a few women

Re: [ozmidwifery] wyong reopens

2005-09-20 Thread Denise Hynd
Congratulations Denise Hynd "Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by anyone, our bodies will be handled." — Linda Hes - Original Message - From: diane To:

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-20 Thread Denise Hynd
I would not be surprised if she was full of fear so herhormones were out of kilter Then I wonder if she was also on the bed and obstructing her outlet . Whereas the couple with the midwife were relaxed confident and kneeling supported so given a good go Pity there are no water

Re: [ozmidwifery] CPD

2005-09-20 Thread Denise Hynd
I remeber an obs from Houstion Texas saying on another list He used to beleive in CPD Now he sees it as often as Rocking Horse s!! Denise Hynd "Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if

Re: [ozmidwifery] Wyong reopens

2005-09-20 Thread diane
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Wyong reopens Hi Justine, Definitely a big thanks to Carol and MC and the Wyong families. Some of them are quite pasionate and loyal to Wyong and despite the closures we had quite a few women 'voting' with their babies, and staying home long enough to not make it to

Re: [ozmidwifery] perinatal stats

2005-09-20 Thread sally williams
No Brenda...that's exactly what I thought too :P Sally - Original Message - From: brendamanning To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] perinatal stats Every time I see the Dept of BDM

[ozmidwifery] Question

2005-09-20 Thread Philippa Scott
This question/assumption was put forward on another list I wondered whether you wonderful women would be able to answer it for me as I have no idea really. What happens if the mother sustains a 3rd or 4th degree tear at a homebirth?Do they then have to travel to a hospital to get it all

[ozmidwifery] Tears and repairs

2005-09-20 Thread Honey Acharya
I am curious about something (and I know it is fairly rare with homebirth) but for experienced midwives I assume you would stitch tears yourself even if they were3rd or 4th degree, but I don't want to make assumptions so is that the case? Or would you transfer to hospital to have a doc

RE: [ozmidwifery] Tears and repairs

2005-09-20 Thread Tania Smallwood
Personally, I dont suture, not for lack of wanting to, but I havent really had the opportunity to do it other than a workshop here and there, and no practical experience whilst doing my midwifery education. The midwife I work with would suture up to a straightforward, everything lining up

Re: [ozmidwifery] Question

2005-09-20 Thread Judy Chapman
The only experience I have had of this is as the admitting midwife when a woman came in from a home birth with a 4th degree tear. She fed babe while waiting for OR, had the repair and went home again when she had recovered from the anaesthetic. As I saw her around town many times later I found

Re: [ozmidwifery] Tears and repairs

2005-09-20 Thread Judy Chapman
Honey, I feel that 3rd and 4th deg tears are getting out of the ordinary and the woman needs a really good repair to function well afterwards, this puts it in the realms of an OB. As well as that the repairs can be quite painful and it is not unreasonable to offer a proper anaesthetic for it.

Re: [ozmidwifery] developmental hip dysplasia

2005-09-20 Thread Safetsleep
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RE: [ozmidwifery] Question

2005-09-20 Thread wump fish
I wouldn't suture a 3rd or 4th degree tear at all - at home or in hospital for a number of reasons. A 3rd+ degree is not within my expertise and can lead to long term complications if not done properly. I would rather it was done by someone with expertise and experience in a well lit theatre.

RE: [ozmidwifery] Question

2005-09-20 Thread Lynne Slater
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[ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!

2005-09-20 Thread Jennifairy
ok, bear with me while I think out loud in your general direction well we have the 'baby friendly hospital initiative', so how about the 'woman friendly birth centre'? I mean, better still, 'the community' (representatives of) should really be heavily involved in this kind of primary care

Re: [ozmidwifery] Tears and repairs

2005-09-20 Thread brendamanning
Honey, I am in line with the other IP /MW comments on tears at home. Complicated tears require expert suturing that's what OBs are specialists at, dealing with abnormal events. I have been suturing for 16 years will do anything I feelIcan do well.If I felt I couldn't do a good job ,I'd

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!

2005-09-20 Thread Kate /or Nick
- how about the 'woman friendly birth centre'? There's a lot of different definitions of that one. Just had a placement with a m/w who promoted woman-friendly over baby-friendly. Her idea of w-f was to have longer hospital stays, baby in nursery, bottlefed until woman's milk comes in. She

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!

2005-09-20 Thread Emily
wow does she not know of colostrum? or the link b/w early feeds and breastfeeding success ? or think women may miss their bub? how strange. --- Kate /or Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - how about the 'woman friendly birth centre'? There's a lot of different definitions of that one.