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Dear Leive, I can add very little to the thoughts and feelings already being expressed. But I had to write to let you know that my tears and prayers are for you all as you share this most precious time. Thank you for blessing us with this shared experience. Love Sandy. - Original Message -

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Hugs to you too Lynne, you ladies are real angels, Pinky - Original Message - From: "Lynne Staff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together > Dear Lieve >

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Dear Lieve I was only this morning at a beautiful birth of a stillborn baby girl - perfect in every way, looking so much like her mother! How things happen at this time are crucial for the parents - they have SO MUCH to do - in their hearts, their souls, their lives, their families. a word, an

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Hello Lieve, my heart aches as I read this message from you. What a journey you are traveling with Nele, baby Lars and the family. The strengh and courage displayed by this woman and her family together with you their midwife is all inspiring.it teaches us all so much about love, trust and our

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-- Original Message - From: "Pinky McKay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together > Hi Lieve, > You are an angel to ths family. I have a wee story that may b

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Dear Lieve Thank you for sharing Lars' story with us! Oh that we all could be so supportive of women and their choices particularly the uncomfortable ones! Denise - Original Message - From: "Lieve Huybrechts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 2:48

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In a message dated 3/20/03 6:51:37 AM W. Australia Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now they got already so much. They feel privileged and very happy, but grieve is so close. Laughter and tears go hand in hand. What will the futur bring??? Lieve I had tears in my eyes as I finished you

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sorry that should be "now will you give him all your love" Pinky - Original Message - From: "Pinky McKay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together &

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for him much sooner than we've planned, We'll brave the bitter grief that comes and try to understand. Love and hugs to you all, Pinky - Original Message - From: "Julie Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 11:

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(02) 9544 6441 F (02) 9544 9257 M. 0401 265 530 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marilyn Kleidon Sent: Friday, 21 March 2003 3:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come toget

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Dear Lieve: I am wordless, but my heart goes out to you and Lars and his family. marilyn - Original Message - From: "Lieve Huybrechts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 2:48 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together > Dear fri

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Dear Lieve, I wasnt online when your first discusions on this family were made known thankyou for further explaining the situation. My heart goes out to this family and yourself, I pray for you all. Janet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lieve

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Peace to you all on this journey. Sally Westbury Homebirth Midwife Birth is as safe as life gets. --Harriett Hartigan -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.

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honda           ---Original Message---   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, 17 March 2003 08:25:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together  Love and strength to you lieve,There are ma

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Dear Lieve I have been wondering since your first very moving post about this baby and the family. Thank you for sharing his birth with us all. I hope his remaining time goes peacefully and lovingly. Love to you all Margie At Sun, 16 Mar 2003 23:06:49 +0100, Lieve Huybrechts ([EMAIL PROTEC

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Love and strength to you lieve, There are many of us thinking of Lars,his family and you at the moment and I think that there is good power in that. We send our blessings from afar and wish we could give you a hug, Julie. - Original Message - From: "Lieve Huybrechts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Dear Lieve, I have no advice for you, only congratulations on such a loving act. The only baby I had like that (unknown until 14 days old) went to hospital at 2weeks of age, stayed there a few days then home to family until he died 2 weeks later, The time at home after he was born (lovely waterbi

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PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together  Hi Sally,We are doing fine. I had 5 wonderfull births this month and two to go.The mother and her husband are doing a wonderfull job. She started workingagain. She is a music teacher and gives gitar lessons. She explained thesi

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Lieve Lieve,   Wat is het mooi. You're doing wonderful things for your people. I wish you sterkte and liefde.   Aviva   ---   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 6/12/02

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Hi Sally, We are doing fine. I had 5 wonderfull births this month and two to go. The mother and her husband are doing a wonderfull job. She started working again. She is a music teacher and gives gitar lessons. She explained the situation to all her students (range from 12y to adults) herself an

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Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together Thanks Julie, I will keep in thouch and we will need your prayers and thoughts. Warmest regards Lieve On 04-12-2002 12:27, "Julie Garratt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Hi Lieve,   Maybe when this baby's bei

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  Hi Lieve, Maybe when this baby's being borne you can tell us and we can all pray or think special thoughts in our own way to help this child on its journey. I hope that this may be of some support. I'm thinking of you, wishing you strength and wisdom. Love Julie'',   . - Original Message ---

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This makes me think back to a recent posting of the family whose first baby was born still at home and the baby had a lotus birth. Where the placenta was left attached to baby, and in this case forever. I see this as a wonderful gift to a child and perhaps the family you are with may consider this

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Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together Dankjewel Aviva Veel groetjes ginder Lieve On 02-12-2002 14:37, "Aviva Sheb'a" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lieve Lieve,   Wij staan allemaal te samen met jullie. Veel sterkte aan jullie.   Veel liefs,   Aviva -

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Lieve Lieve,   Wij staan allemaal te samen met jullie. Veel sterkte aan jullie.   Veel liefs,   Aviva - Original Message - From: Lieve Huybrechts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together Hoi Mary and

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Dear Lieve, The other thought that I have had on this is about when my grandfather died. He had cancer and we nursed him at home(I was a 15 year old at the time) until the very last when my grandmother suddenly wanted to go to hospital because she didn't want him to die in their bed, didn't want

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Hoi Mary and others of the list, That's a thing that is of our concern. We don't know how long the baby has to live, nobody can forsay that and the parents are also worried on how the baby is going to die. I am glad that you gave this information. Maybe in my messages it sounds if I have worked i

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Hi Lieve, 8 yrs ago I had a woman who had an U/S at 20 wks for her 4th baby (never had one before) and there were no abnomalities picked up on examination. Subsequently, she had a lovely homebirth waterbirth and had a little boy with good weight and APGARS. He wasn't as vigorous as the other child

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  " Maybe the baby just needs tobe live in the womb and be born to become complete."   How beautiful ..I am speachless.  The woman is truely lucky to have you with her Lieve.   Rhonda.     ---Original Message---

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Good luck Lieve, you bring tears to my eyes -you are such a special person. The couple and their baby are lucky to have you. Pinky - Original Message - From: "Lieve Huybrechts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 8:45 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] When bi

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Cosmo.   Robin - Original Message - From: Julie Garratt To: ozmid Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together Dear Lieve,   There is a wonderful Australian video called "Some Babies D

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" I got the idea that the Melbourne hospital is the only hospitalin Australia with the staff and facilities to provide the care. Don't knowwhere this care is available overseas."   I think that it would be well worth looking into this and finding out m

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Dear Lieve,   There is a wonderful Australian video called "Some Babies Die" It was produced in Sydney in the early nineties and It is available from the library in Mt Barker SA.  It mainly follows the journey of one family who give birth to a dear baby who lived only hours. The doctor

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Dear Lieve, These people must be exceptional people to choose this pathway on this journey. Many people take a different pathway and end their pregnancy at this junction. I have not experienced this in my homebirth journey. I think/feel that all the same things apply as for any birth, with gent

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know where this care is available overseas. marilyn - Original Message - From: "Carole Gilmour" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together > Dear Lieve > This

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Dear Lieve This sounds like hypoplastic heart. A colleagues' daughter gave birth to a son in June with this condition(undiagnosed prior to birth). He was good at birth and went blue after a few hours and was transferred to the Royal Children's Hospital in Melbourne, since when he has had 2 operat

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Hi Lieve, It is sad but wonderful that these parents can prepare to say goodbye to their little one. I had a friend who was due two days after me but her baby died (due to some questionable medical intervention) at 27wks.  This was totally unexpected.  She was induced a few days later (after be