hi, all,
my active birthing student Alice sent me this. Go,
Alice!
aviva
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a
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 7:06 PM
Subject: bun's STILL cooking.
Hello,
Little bubs is still hanging out in the comfort of mum's belly. We
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] CPD WAS big baby fear?
14 pounder? some people will do anything for
attention!!!
aviva
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From: Marilyn
Kleidon
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] CPD WAS big baby fear?
This just
Are they still available and where can we get it?
Hettie Grove
RN.RM.RCN.RNA.RNT.ICCE. South Africa
027-83-2260709
Fax 27-11-7403507
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From: Cheryl LHK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:01 AM
Subject:
Hi all
Was browsing through a parenting mag the other day
while awaiting return of woman from day procedure.
Had a 5 minutes in the life of a new
mum.
It went something like this:
They wanted to induce me, so I had 3 lots of gel
but didn't do anything. I was 2 cm dilated so they broke
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births)
Plans around birth incl children need to remain open to change ie leaving
kids asleep following the childs needs at
Hi Andrea and all
Shame they forgot about that article on maternal deaths and the NHMRC
Report they ran and the subsequent letter I wrote and they published on the
amazing benefits of midwifery care and the buzz of natural birth.
Too push to push, but not too posh for a pulmonary embolism? Sad
Please
don't forget to let us know the rest of the story
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Sheb'aSent: Tuesday, 26 November 2002 6:53 PMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fw: bun's
STILL cooking.
Please midwives not nurses, nursing
staff. THE MIDWIFE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SAFETY AND WELLBEING OF MOTHER
AND BABY. If anything goes wrong she is responsible, and ends up in
court, and has to live with it.Distractions such as toddlers running
around can affect everyone present. I once
All of this reminded me of my 5yr old daughter when I had a false
labour at 31 weeks and the dr came in and did an internal "to see what was
happening"
My daughter was trying very hard to look up betwen my legs while the
Dr did this and then
Title: FW: [ozmidwifery] A follow thru journey.when Sally met Harry(Long)
Tina - tonite I read your story as you wrote it, to our Birthtalk- Sharing, Empowering, Celebrating Birth group. It was heard by a group of 8 women.
(6 have suffered traumatic c/sec births and 4 are pg) It was
Rhonda wrote:
This reminded me of a woman I know who had not intended her 2yr old son to be at the birth of her second child.
When she went into labour she could not get hold of her back up child care.
So they went to the hospital and hubby had the 2yr old - trying to call for someone to help.
Well now you know where the centre of the universe
is! Call me smug if you like.
aviva
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From: Denise
Hynd
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Sheila Kitzinger in Australia
Nor NSWHow interesting only 2
Title: FW: [ozmidwifery] A follow thru journey.when Sally met Harry(Long)
hearty congratulations to you and the women there.
this is how the world improves.
aviva
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From: rem melissa
bruijn
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Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 1:27 AM
Sorry I was only quoting what she had said - 'nurses or nursing staff
did not help her with the tot.
And gee - what was she meant to do? Any ideas! Living
about 3 hours drive awayfrom her parents who were driving down to
helpshe had 3 close back up child
Perhaps this is another reason why Home Birth is so much better as
the children can go and play with their toys and not dismantle hospital
equipment.
Rhonda
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where I have worked in the past the rule of thumb has been: have someone to
care for the child, even if they are coming to the birth. That means, if your
child is attending you need to have a support person dedicated to caring for the
child. If your partner is your only support person, and
" Ifeel that it would be the midwives responsibility to help the
familyin this sort of case which would involve some assistance with the
toddler regardless if they had planned to have him there or not."
You know, I find this statement REALLY scary. I dont mean to be picky (
except I am,)
He! He!
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RhondaSent: Wednesday, 27 November 2002 12:42 AMTo:
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[Children Present at Births)
Perhaps this is
Hear Hear! I'm more than picky, and will blatantly state that in a hospital
setting my first priority is the mother and baby, NOT THE TODDLER!! You
want your kids in there, bring a support person, if it's unexpected then Dad
has got to put their needs first and leave the midwife with the
[Judy Giesaitis]Well
saidRobin JudyOriginal Message-From:
Robin Moon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 27
November 2002 6:35 AMTo:
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The only difficulty I have with all this is that for most of a woman's
birthing, if she has a husband who wants to hold, massage, support her
then I am happy to sit on the floor and play with children and allow the
couple to be together. After all at the end of the journey the couple is
going
In a message dated 27/11/02 12:33:22 AM AUS Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tina - tonite I read your story as you wrote it, to our "Birthtalk- Sharing, Empowering, Celebrating Birth" group. It was heard by a group of 8 women.
(6 have suffered traumatic c/sec births and 4 are
Thank you Denise
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From: barbara glare chris bright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Sheila Kitzinger in Australia
Dear Denise,
Sheila will be speaking for the National Association of
Dear Robin
Please can we talk?Denise Hynd
041 7932570
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From:
Robin
Moon
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:34
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children
Present at Births)
" Ifeel that it would be the
Is there anyone from the program lurking who would
share with us what is happenig with it in regard to
salary??Denise
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From:
Mrs
joanne m fisher
To: Ozmidwifery
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 1:32
PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Northern Suburbs
Yes Sally
that is one of the things I have appreciate with home birthers it is a
continuation of the love act that created to baby
The loving touch of partners , family is mostly what many women need to
labour and birth their babies gently, I have found it so wondrous and such a
positive
I'd like to second Tina's comments re follow through. It was the best
part of my midi (1988) following through "my" 4 ladies, and at the moment
I am a "follow through lady" myself (or longitudinal case study!) for a
lovelymidi student. It is great to have someone
In a message dated 27/11/02 12:29:44 PM AUS Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Anyway what I am getting at is there has been no political will to look at
midwives differently, in terms of equity, midwifery as a profession
deserving
support and new solutions for recurrent problems
In a message dated 11/27/02 9:29:44 AM W. Australia Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I thought you/CMWA were in negotiation for a special "award" because MIPPS
homebirth midwives whatever you class yourselves as - definitely have more
responsibility skills to Birth Centre midwives (the
Recently in working with a follow thru woman, I attended her pregnancy
care visits to the hospitalher model of care was midwife-led care in a
birthing unit.but I was amazed at how subordinate and not so midwife-led
it was. Some of the midwives were in their care of the woman far
I have to agree with Robin. We run on such tight staffing that mostly wejust don't have the staff to be responsible for toddlers. If they cannot do anything else with them we try our best but I believe that the midwife caring for the woman has responsibility enough for the wellbeingof the woman
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] follow through programme
I did not know this was even an option - thanks for sharing this info.
Melissa
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From: Grant and Louise [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [ozmidwifery] follow through programme
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 9:44 AM
What about the possibility of child care within the hospital?
I can hear the screams of budget budget, etc. Yet it's not such a far-fetched
idea. How many people need to use hospitals and have to have their children
looked after? Would it be a nightmare?
Aviva
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Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] A follow thru journey.when Sally met Harry(Long)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Also Melissa...where are you all?? I would like to take this opportunity to invite these women to contact their local universities and enquire about their midwifery courses, particularly
In a message dated 27/11/02 4:27:07 PM AUS Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
TIna - we are all in Brisbane/Gold Coast area (meetings in BRisbane). I would really be interested if any local uni's have this programme - sounds great. Specially if the students are anything like you
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise
While some of the
midwives seem to embrace the whole responsibility/accountability
thingmany do not...and would rather be seen in the handmaiden role in
preference to accepting full responsibility for their midwife role.
TIna - this
Rhonda it does sound like a really difficult/desperate situation. However,
usually birth suite is not over abundant with midwives and with your friend in
rapid labour doesn't sound like they could have become involved in child care
too. I always thoroughly discuss the many scenarios that
I have been contacted by a woman in Waikerie in South Australias
Riverland, who has been told by her present ob that she can not have a
vbac at all. Had a damn CT pelvimetry with first baby after it popped
out of her pelvis at 38 weeks and was 'electively' sectioned for an
inadequate pelvis.
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