Re: [ozmidwifery] midwife is a midwife...?

2004-04-15 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Hi Sue: I really don't know if what i am going to say is true, it is just my perception. Here goes: it seems to me that as some women demanded that intrusions and interventions in childbirth be decreased (shaves, enemas, drugs, episiotomies, IOL, ARM, etc..) and so demanded choice in

Re: [ozmidwifery] Beautiful Birth

2004-04-15 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear Nicloe, Thank you for sending this Having known similar births thanks to the CMP and after the last few shifts in the best of the local system which does not promote informed consent or options! I not only cried I decided I can no longer work in this system because in doing so I

Re: [ozmidwifery] thanks everyone

2004-04-15 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear Jo Last nite (I was not owrking in Labour ward) a couple after several hours of pushing were seeking a second opnion rather than accept a caesarian section. At this time one was not available and if it was it would been the same!! I do not feel this is a reflection on anyone but the

[ozmidwifery] interesting book

2004-04-15 Thread Patricia David
Pursuant to the fascinating discussion on midwives, obstetric nurses and the micropolitics of the professions vis a vis obstetricians and other doctors involved in childbirth I have just finished my easter read: Misconceptions by Terry McGee, an obstetrician and first-time author from

[ozmidwifery] genital herpes in pregnancy

2004-04-15 Thread Nicole Christensen
Hi all, I posted a query last year re. genital herpes in pregnancy. I received onereply off the mailing list - thank you. BUT would like to try again to see if ANYONE can give me ANY information or tell me of their experiences with women who have active lesions when in labour. With

Re: [ozmidwifery] Beautiful Birth

2004-04-15 Thread Nicole Christensen
I really hear you Denise! I don't blame you for leaving the hospital system -it would be frustrating; disheartening and terribly sad regards, Nicole - Original Message - From: Denise Hynd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:09 PM Subject:

RE: [ozmidwifery] genital herpes in pregnancy

2004-04-15 Thread Sally Westbury
Hi Nicole, Try this site for balanced information. http://www.herpes.org.nz/pregnancy.html Sally -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicole Christensen Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2004 9:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: [ozmidwifery] genital herpes in pregnancy

2004-04-15 Thread jayne
Nicole, Have you been here? http://gentlebirth.org/archives/herpes.html HTH! Regards Jayne - Original Message - From: Nicole Christensen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:01 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] genital herpes in pregnancy

RE: [ozmidwifery] midwifery in mildura

2004-04-15 Thread Cheryl LHK
Cath, Have a great time up there. Did several placements in 1997/98 up there and l-o-v-e-d it!! Couldn't rave about it enough. Even though other two other regional hospitals are within1.5 hours of us, chose to go up to Mildura because the care, mentoring, information, friendliness to me as

Re: [ozmidwifery] Beautiful Birth

2004-04-15 Thread Jo Bourne
I have seen this on a few websites I read daily, as well as here, and i thought it was beautiful, certainly made me cry. I keep wanting to go back and watch it again, but each time I am surprised a new by how still the mother seems to be. You can see how happy and healthy mum and baby are at

Re: [ozmidwifery] Beautiful Birth

2004-04-15 Thread jayne
Yes Jo, despite loving the 'story', the music, the look of wonderment on the childrens' faces etc, after noticing the mum on the bed in a couple of photos, I kept thinking, why isn't she up moving around?! But how well done was it?! It's truly one of the most beautiful things I've seen in a long

Re: [ozmidwifery] genital herpes in pregnancy

2004-04-15 Thread Judy Chapman
I once heard an OB say that there were more risks to the mother from the CS than to the baby from the herpes with the older infections. Might be worth pursuing. Cheers Judy --- Nicole Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I posted a query last year re. genital herpes in pregnancy. I

Re: [ozmidwifery] Beautiful Birth

2004-04-15 Thread Judy Chapman
At the risk of being flamed, moving around is not the best for all. I have recently cared for a woman with definite ideas for an active birth (unfortunately I did not know her prior) and when she started contracting well she was very active. Bath, all fours, standing, walking all night. Declined

[ozmidwifery] Demand Opportunity for All

2004-04-15 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear Ozmid listers!! If you want the option of 1-2-1 midwifery for at least some women and midwives where you live ? Please can you all become political for the next national (and state) election? For example; - join a Maternity Coalition National (May 8th) Day of Action near you or start

RE: [ozmidwifery] Beautiful Birth

2004-04-15 Thread Judy Giesaitis
Yes it was beautiful, such a pain that my sound card has gone dead. I will invoke a little bit of ancient history and personal ramblings, SORRY in advance.When I had my 2nd baby almost 30 years ago, in the GOOD OLD DAYS, ha, I declined the interventions which I had been trained with in

[ozmidwifery] midwifery in mildura

2004-04-15 Thread cath wright
thank you for the feedback on mildura, especially to jan, leanne , tracy and cheryl - thank you thankyou i hope to have some good stories to share cath Cheryl LHK wrote: Cath, Have a great time up there. Did several placements in 1997/98 up there and l-o-v-e-d it!! Couldn't rave about it

[ozmidwifery] beautiful birth and positions

2004-04-15 Thread Jo Dean Bainbridge
Hey! I was touched by the clip as well but the gnawing thought of why is she reclining on a bed??!! kept creeping in It reminded me of the video of the 'natural birth' I was shown during an ante natal class with a woman sitting up in bed pushing bubby out and the midwife actually said to us

Re: [ozmidwifery] Beautiful Birth

2004-04-15 Thread Jo Bourne
I guess this is what I was trying to say, the photos (and the 3 hr timeframe) really did seem to show that she was doing just what she needed. But I was surprised, I couldn't really relate, and this probably tells me more about myself than anything else but I was curious if anyone else

Re: [ozmidwifery] Beautiful Birth

2004-04-15 Thread Denise Hynd
No flames here! I have had a homebirth ( labour) on the bed,some sitting cross elgged on the floor! Effective labour is about what the woman needs and some are fine on a bed or other hard surface though not common when encouraged and comfortable to do what they want!! Denise - Original

[ozmidwifery] bridgetown

2004-04-15 Thread cath nolan
I have met a woman who wishes to have a homebirth in Bridgetown, WA. Her EDB is 22/8/04 and she has been in contact with the Fremantle group but hasn't heard anything backas yet. Does anyone have any contacts. I can be contacted off the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Cath Nolan,

[ozmidwifery] re beautiful birth

2004-04-15 Thread cath nolan
Perhaps it was the position that this woman felt most comfortable in. It certainly seems that she looked comfortable and secure in her place. I loved that clip for what it was. Cath.

Re: [ozmidwifery] genital herpes in pregnancy

2004-04-15 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Hi Nicole: I could not add anything to the information obtained on the sites recommended by both Sally and Jane. I do think it is worthy to note that doctors in the USA were reluctant to change their recommendations for C/s delivery for women with recurrent herpes with lesions in labour.

Re: [ozmidwifery] bridgetown

2004-04-15 Thread Mary Murphy
Hi, this is an area that is lacking in homebirth midwives at the moment. It used to be part of my rural practice but they haven't had a midwife there for ages. Pet Malavasi the Homebirth Choice group in the South west might be able to help. Try [EMAIL PROTECTED]for information. MM I

Re: [ozmidwifery] Beautiful Birth

2004-04-15 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Ditto! Some (a very few)women take to their bed at home . And mostly this is what they need to do. marilyn - Original Message - From: Denise Hynd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Beautiful Birth No flames here!

Re: [ozmidwifery] re beautiful birth

2004-04-15 Thread Mary Murphy
As others have said, my experience has been that most women are active at sometime and then settle down into a kneeling position, very rarely lying for more that a few minutes at a time. However, I have had several women feel much better lying down for most of the labour. I have seen this

RE: [ozmidwifery] Beautiful Birth

2004-04-15 Thread Sally Westbury
I gave birth in the family bed too... funny really as I have midwifed many women in water and on land in many different positions but this is what suited me at the time.. it was wonderful to watch him uncurl from within my body... he just turned 8 and the memory of his birth still brings such

Re: [ozmidwifery] genital herpes in pregnancy

2004-04-15 Thread Mary Murphy
I have had a number of women over the years with active lesions in pregnancy (Not 1st infection aquired in preg). We have done all the things thought necessary both natural and medical to make sure there was not an active lesion in labour. The therapies must have worked as none of them had

[ozmidwifery] Herpes

2004-04-15 Thread Mary Murphy
I found this in my Herpes file, from a previous ozmid discussion." Bergamot is recommended as it is anti viral and especially suited to Herpes also it is a lovely uplifting oil to use anyway," An aromatherapist would have more information about its use. MM

Re: [ozmidwifery] genital herpes in pregnancy

2004-04-15 Thread Jo Perks
Try the Australian Herpes Management web site. My understanding is that if its not a primary in pregnancy then the viral load is lower for subsequent outbreaks and a vaginal delivery should be fine. If a primary occurs during pregnancy then more of a risk. Regards Jo Perks -

[ozmidwifery] SE Qld - Gemma-Rose Turnbull Photography project

2004-04-15 Thread Jodie Miller
Forwarding this on Gemma's behalf. Jodie Miller -- Forwarded Message -- Hello, My name is Gemma-Rose Turnbull and I am a third year photography student at Queensland College of Art, Griffith University. I’m contacting you because I had two experiences of birth last year

Re: [ozmidwifery] SE Qld - Gemma-Rose Turnbull Photography project

2004-04-15 Thread Jo Dean Bainbridge
GOOD luck to Gemma! I wish her all the light and love in the world if she can achieve some changes thru such a wonderful medium!!! I just wished I knew someone she could use, but I am sure there will be many candidates!!! Jo - Original Message - From: Jodie Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [ozmidwifery] genital herpes in pregnancy

2004-04-15 Thread Jackie Kitschke
Nicole, Ring the Women's and Children's in Adelaide and ask to speak to Dr Goldwater. He is in Infection Control and has good advice re gential herpes and labour. Phone number for WCH is 08 81617000 Jackie - Original Message - From: Nicole Christensen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]