RE: [ozmidwifery] fenugreek
Catherine, What brand is the liquid tincture you have? Does it say anything about 1:1 or 1:2 ratio on there at all - this way I can give you a dosage? Kristin (Naturopath CBE) From: "gypsymidwife" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] fenugreekDate: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:45:16 +1000 Dear All Just wondering if someone can help me with the therapeutic dose of fenugreek. I have heard it 's amazing to increase milk supply but as it says nothing of this on the bottle, I would like to know if others have had experience with its use. Thanks in advance. Catherine Pearson.Advertisement: Sell your car combining the power of print & online for $29.95 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] RE:
Boils are a balant sign the immune system is struggling and given over 80% of the immune system pivots on the bacterial populations in the git - no wonder AB arent helping - they often worsen the situation. Yes, see a good naturoapth and you'll get it sorted. Vit C, zinc, bioflavonoids, betacarotene, and probiotics are all a great start. Kristin (Naturopath CBE) From: "leanne wynne" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] RE:Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:08:12 +1100Hi Belinda,My daughter had recurrent boils for approximately 2 years and we tried all the treatments you have mentioned: salt baths, vitamin supplements and antibiotics (even though I hate them and believe they are overused) etc ... etc ...I spoke with a naturopath and she said it tended to be a depressed immune system. So I decided to try to improve her diet as my daughter has always been a fussy eater. I started giving her a punnet of strawberries and a punnet of cherry tomatoes every week and she hasnt had a boil since!! It would seem that the extra vitamin C has boosted her immune system sufficiently.So ... its worth a try and tastes alot better than antibiotics without the side-effects!!All the best,Leanne.Leanne WynneMidwife in charge of "Women's Business"Mildura Aboriginal Health Service Mob 0418 371862From: "Belinda Pound" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auDate: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:51:11 +1000Just wondering if anyone has any ideas on treating boils. Started about18/40 (second pregnancy..none with first). Glucose at 28/40 fine. Drs saidit was due to pregnancy. Had several courses of oral ab's, two treatmentsof bactroban nasally. (partner and 2yo daughter also treated with nasal abat this time). Bath in detol/phisohex. Baby now 11 weeks, breastfeeding,and I currently have four boils. All have been on the right hand side ofbody. Take pregnancy and breastfeeding vitamin daily. (have had 15-20 inpast 6 months.and don't want yet another dose of ab's) Any suggestions onexperience/treatment greatly appreciated. Thanks Belinda_Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL="">--This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.Advertisement: Amazing holiday rentals? -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Birth Stats around the world..?
Hi All, I was wondering how Australia compares to rest of world re interventions into birth. I know its pretty *up there* on the grand scale but can anyone give me some other countries - either on the lower end or higher end above us. My guess is USA very high??Netherlands/Austria/New Zealand??down the low end. This is just to use is I'm asked in my CBE class! Many thanks, KristinA find engine rather than a search engine - for websites, images, maps & more. Try live.com now! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] *stretchy* cervix
Hi all, Can anyone please explain to me what is meant when a MW does a VE and says "the cervix is 6cm dilated but can be stretched to 8cm..". Is this significant of something or just a passing comment? Many thanks, KristinAdvertisement: It's simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Fund rebates
Grrr too. This is totally unacceptable and bloody outrageous - how can we change this???!! Kristin Naturopath CBE From: "brendamanning" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fund rebatesDate: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:30:46 +1100Medicare does not recognise Midwives as 'professionals' competent or capable of practicing without the supervision of a doctor in Australia. Therefore it will not recompense any services provided by them to pregnant women.HOWEVER: The exception is when working in a remote community :in which case you don't even have to be a midwife to provide pre-natal care, enrolled nurses aboriginal health workers with NO mid education are considered quite competent to provide maternity care which medicare will refund for as long as they are supervised (however loosely) by a doctor (who of course knows much more about normal pregnancy childbirth then any midwife) !If Midwives were as qualified as a chiropractor, chiropodist, naturopath, herbalist etc then they would get recognition.It would appear that we just aren't up to scratch !!!Our skills whilst working within a hospital immediately disappear once we step off the premises apparently.Amazing stuff !GCheersBrenda- Original Message -From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSent: Monday, January 29, 2007 3:52 PMSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fund rebates Amanda, I rang medicare this this week to see on any level particually medicare 16400, if they would fund childbirth education classes. Unfortuantely they don't. They suggested ringing hte major health funds, I haven't gotten there yet, but wuold be interested to know too... Rachael Now all you work from home and have your own business midwives can you please tell me how I am able to offer health fund rebates IF I decided to fun my own business from home I have been thinking of it for a while - not homebirths as such cause I want insurance for that but other midwifery services that I can offer? Amanda Ward Creative Memories Consultant Ph. (07) 3261 4354 Mob, 0417 009 648 Email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Advertisement: It's simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=""> -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.--This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.Live Search delivers results the way you like it. Try live.com now! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] * tough* membranes
Hi all, Can anyone comment on what makes the membranes 'tough'..ie. hard to break (AROM) or *slow* to breaknaturally ? (hard to measure yes)Does this exist or is it just something that happens? Many thanks, KristinAdvertisement: It's simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] * tough* membranes
Hi Julie - nice to 'see' you again :-) It does make sense re Vit C. Theother nutrients for epithelial/mucous membrane strength are the bioflavonoids (very similar to Vit C), Vit A or betacarotene, and zinc. This woman in question was supplementing her diet with such nutrients (she was a naturopathic client of mine)...But then again so did I during pregnancy and my membranes broke very early in the piece of a 4-5hr labour... So I agree, its multifactoral. BTW this woman had BIG fear issues - so this contributed to everything anyway.. K From: "Julie Clarke" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] * tough* membranesDate: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:08:50 +1100 Hi Michelle, Jo and Kristin, I would expect there to be a co-relation between maternal nutrition and strength or thickness of membranous sac, because in every other respect what a woman eats, drinks, smokes etc will impact on her tissue so it stands to reason doesnt it, though I dont recall seeing any scientific evidence on this previously, but I remember being told by an experienced homebirth midwife years ago that if a woman has a high vitamin C content in her diet then its likely her membranes will be tough. Other aspects of a womans environment will have an influence too, on how readily the membranes rupture such as intensity of contractions during labour or perhaps pre-labour if infection is present this is linked to weakening/rupturing the membranes. Id say like most things its a multi-faceted situation. Kristin, from a naturopathic point of view what sorts of things will strengthen mucous membrane tissue? Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.julieclarke.com.au From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michelle WindsorSent: Monday, 22 January 2007 12:22 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] * tough* membranes I haven't heard of this Jo but did read something fairly recently (possibly on this list!) that women who took vitamin C were less likely to have pre-labour ruptured membranes. It is interesting that some women's membranes seem to break so easily, like when doing a VE and others stay intact until birth. Maybe there is a relation between maternal nutrition and the membranes. Cheers Michelle - Original Message From: Jo Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSent: Monday, 22 January, 2007 10:07:14 AMSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] * tough* membranesI have absolutely no data on this, but someone once told me it correlates with weight gain during pregnancy. Has anyone else heard of this? Jo On 21/01/2007, at 9:22 PM, Kristin Beckedahl wrote: Hi all, Can anyone comment on what makes the membranes 'tough'..ie. hard to break (AROM) or *slow* to breaknaturally ? (hard to measure yes)Does this exist or is it just something that happens? Many thanks, Kristin Advertisement: It's simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com A find engine rather than a search engine - for websites, images, maps & more. Try live.com now! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Fish oils and postdates
Hi all, A woman I am supporting for her first birth has 'heard/read somewhere' about stopping her fish oils supplements if she is post-dates (now 40+9) as this may help bring it on - she has been on fish oils throughout pregnancy - and I know all about the prostaglandin-like effect of evening primose oils closer to term (and applied to cervix..) But, I have never heard of stopping the fish oils to help bring on labour..??? I do know the fatty acids are involved in preg/labour hormones production etc etc Anyone heard of this, and if sowhat mechanism is this suggestion based on? Cheers, Kristin Naturopath CBE A find engine rather than a search engine - for websites, images, maps & more. Try live.com now! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Strep B
jassy, I too had the test - purely out of curiosity as I didnt plan on having the AB. I came back positive but declined any treatment in labour. Labour was quick anyway - 4.5hours, and bub was fine. I think they did take an ear or nasal swab (?not sure?) but I heard nothing again of it. I birthed at KEMH Birth Centre, Perth. kristin CBE Naturopath From: "Roberta Quinn" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Strep BDate: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 11:55:44 +0900 Hi Jassy, I don't know from a midwive's point-of-view but I'm 32 weeks pregnant and have decided against the test. Like you, I first made the decision against antibiotics and then made the decision not to have the test. My decision was also swayed by a friend living in the UK who tells me it's not a routine test therelike it is here, which I find so interesting. My midwife and I will simply monitor my baby closely for any signs of ill-health, which some have argued to me is what we should do anyway and not rely on antibiotics as a cure-all. Good luck with your decision. From Roberta. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nunyaraSent: Tuesday, 9 January 2007 10:49 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Strep B Hi all, I know info on this topic has been posted before but I deleted it all silly me as I now wish to ask some questions which have probably already been covered. I am 34 weeks pregnant and was not going to have the STREP B test but I have done some further research and it suggests that all women SHOULD be tested but antibiotics used during labour for a positive result may not be the way to go. To all the midwifes on this forum: is it necessary for me to have this test? Is it in my and my babies best interest to do this? If I tested positive (which I didnt with my first child, in fact I dont even remember having the test) is the intravenous antibiotic really necessary? I do not want this as I plan to have a water birth and I am also highly allergic to penicillan and other forms of backup antibiotics. I will raise this at my midwife appointment I am due for this week I would just like some opinions. Kind Regards JassyAdvertisement: House hunt online now! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] What happened with this birth?
Its been great reading the responses to the original emailI have appreciated all responses however - I'm still lost for how this woman ended up this way. I unfortunately do think about the VE's she had...the swollen lip ffrom the forewaters etcand probably no doubt the *stress* in the room with doctor offering opinions and suggestions - thats enough to bring any woman out of * her space* where she truly needs to be, with baby, in body, so she can listen to her body's needs.. I often wonder if baby would have eventually moved *back* to the more favourable position - and how much longer they may have needed? Surely lips retract eventually? What would have pethidine done here? helped her relax whilst waiting for this - surely pethidine is the lesser of her 4 interventions she received - vaccum, forceps, episotomy, spinal, general then CS. This woman is having a tough time postnatally trying to fill in the gaps herself without *offending* staff by asking too many questions.. And I myself, am asking these questions in order to learn and understand. Thanks, KristinDont miss out post christmas sales on world brand cosmetics and free delivery at Strawberrynet -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] what happened in this birth..?
I have a few holes to fill in this birth story from one woman from my CBE classes - I just went to see her today in hospital. This is what I got, but I feel as though I want to 'understand'it more - if I can?! 39+6 - Christmas morning! Light cxn begin to build over the day and steadily increase to 3mins apart by 4-5pm. Stayed at home as long as poss with hubby, got to hospital, 6cm, no meds, active labour, shower etc, laboured for another 2 hours, waters broke, pushy, VE confirmed 10cm, started to push - 1 hour later, didnt get anywhere, discovered by VE there was 'a little bit if forewaters in front of babys head" had been pushing against - swollen cervix, 'back' to 8cm, forewaters broken, then encouraged into 'neutral gravity positions" to allow for cervix to re-dilate, about an hour later ful dilation confirmed (another VE). Began pushing, nothing - 2 hours later nothing. Baby 'had turned" after breaking forewaters... and "got stuck:. Doctor decides to vaccum, failed. Then decided forceps (!) with epi, failed. Given a spinal in prep for CS, had to wait longer than expected as there were 2 other CS happening (shocking CS rate in this country regional hospital!). Eventually into theatre, given a general, baby born 3.7kg. A little "flat""doctor helped him to breathe.." and may have been a result of the spinal and having to wait longer than expected...? Mother 'fine' although very dissappointed and emotional and SORE. Baby was OK all throughout, 'slight' mec staining in waters with CS. What happened? It seemed to be going really well, natural active labour, 14 hrs, fit healthy, body aware and althetic 30 y/old?? Did he just 'turn' and loose the optimal position..? They tried every position in the book apparently, but nothing..? Any insights would be excellent - thankyou! Kristin CBE Naturopath50% off all leading brand cosmetics and free delivery at Strawberrynet ... click here to find out more -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] What happened with this birth?
Gee Carolyn...I'd like to have coffee with you one day or two! :-) Kristin From: Heartlogic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] What happened with this birth? Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:24:40 +1100 Dear Gail, Firstly, your instincts are spot on. This is a very distressing story. It is not a coincidence that these women's labours stalled following his VE's, that is absolutely to be expected and is the result of a mindless disruption of the women's optimal state of neurophyiological functioning. Taylorism, that is an industrial, efficiency management model, has no place in the dynamic fluid process of birth, sadly it has become merged into the 'health' care system with this sort of unconscious abuse becoming more common. 'Discussions' with the doctors at that stage will do nothing except breed resistence and further intervention; in mindless individuals it can even result in payback situations where intervention will be done just because you are the midwife. The right to rule is still endemic in the maternity services. the first thing to understand is that these people really believe they are doing the right thing. the second thing to understand is that they are taught all about the abnormalities of birth, they have absolutely no idea about normal physiology as applied to birth (gross generalisation, I know) the third thing is that they are terrified of birth the fourth thing is that they are taught throughout medical school that they are the boss of everything and the government and health departments agree and structure everything (I know, there are exceptions) to reinforce that idea the fifth and probably MOST important thing is that they do get taught about 'patient' autonomy and the need for consent. So, here is where it gets interesting and where our opportunity lies. It is vitally important that you use every moment with birthing women to help them understand the situation, without making it combatative and engendering a siege mentality and ask them what they want to have happen, how they would like things to go, so they can say what they want - be left alone, checked in another hour a few more hours, more time, a bath, move freely, have the baby listened to by doppler in the shower/bath etc if women have the information that can help them with the deeply damaging throw away lines that get trotted out like 'stillbirth' 'brain damage' etc, then women can say what they want and we as midwives can support them in that and remember to DOCUMENT what women want. To do things against rational people's will is abuse. To argue about medical intervention with midwives is a nuisance and an affront to power beliefs. Getting strategic is important. Learning tactical support of birthing women is a midwifery art form and a very challenging one. It is crucial that you avoid blame, judgement and criticism as these emotional states are damaging for everyone and lead to despair. It is useful to come from the point of view that they mean well but are ignorant about birth physiology and are taught to look for problems. Neuroscience and quantum physics teaches us we find what we are looking for. That also means we make it up if it is not there. Our job is to work with women and their processes, to give women information to make their own decisions and to help them actualise their decisions and to help doctors know what women want. :-) makes it so simple really. Simple does not, however, mean easy. Every time you find yourself with a pregnant and/or birthing woman ask questions of yourself like 'how can I best inform her of her options?' ' how can I best explain the process of birth so she knows what to expect?' 'how can I support her with what she wants?' ' how can I best let her know how well she is doing so that she can feel secure in asking for more time if she needs it?' how can I best let her know her rights so she feels powerful and in control of her process?' some women, no matter what doors you open, will succumb to medical pressue. That is just the way it is and all we can do is support her through her experience with love, compassion and kindness. One last thing, make friends with that doctor. It is not 'sucking up' it is working with integrity. Everyone wants to do a good job. Approach that person, say you feel uncomfortable about the interaction - open dialogue. We need to be friends with each other. Focus on creating a healthy workplace. Over time, you may have more influence as trust deepens between you. We need to focus on the long term with our doctor midwife relationships. Remember that he is scared of birth and wants to control it - the women get in the way of that and get caught in the melee. He is doing the best he can with what he knows. Doctors are not enemies, they are, in the main, ignorant about normal birthing
[ozmidwifery] synto AFTER 3rd stage?
Hi all, A woman I will be supporting for her first birth had a checkup y'day where she discussed her birth plan with the midwife. MW was very impressed and supportive overall, yet was concerned about her decision for a natural 3rd stage. She has stated on her birth plan that she would prefer to take the "wait and see approach" and only have it if there was 'excessive'bleeding. TheMWwas happy to negiotiate this with her and suggested she have it not at birth, but after the placenta has come away. Would she really need it at this stageif her loss was minimal...? Any insights would be appreciated thanks! KristinAdvertisement: It's simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Twins Vaginal Birth - Names Please...
These lists that are collating (eg. waterbirths and Breech VB) are a wonderful resource. Riding on Kelly's ideas for perhaps a list of Obs/Hosp/MW that support twins VB...could be useful too...? From: "Kelly Zantey" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please...Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:23:44 +1100 Yes please!!! If you can include state/suburb and phone number please J Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator,BellyBelly.com.au Conception, Pregnancy, Birth and Baby BellyBelly Birth Support From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisa BarrettSent: Friday, December 22, 2006 1:09 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please... Do you want midwives Kelly? I attend them. Lisa Barrett - Original Message - From: Kelly Zantey To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:18 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please... I am compiling a list of Obs/carers who will support a woman for vaginal breech birth as I am seeing more breech women pop up and think they have no choice, booked in for caesars at 37-38wks. So if I can at least help them find a supportive carer, it makes it a heck of a lot easier to accept other info ;) So if you can please let me know if you have names of anyone doing vaginal breech birth around Australia, I am going to collate them. Thanks! Ps. I already have Lionel Steinberg (attended a great breech birth a couple of weeks ago with him as carer), Guy Skinner and David Freidin in Melbourne, would love stacks more. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Advertisement: Mobiles, computers, handsets, iPODs and more! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please...
Good on you Kelly - great work! From: "Kelly Zantey" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please...Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:38:16 +1100 I am going to do it anyway, so I am happy to provide a link for you or the information in a file to place elsewhere I have a link summarizing private health funds and midwifery and its no big deal to do. Such a handy resource for us on the list, as well as the women we support. I will need lots of help with interstate services, I am very familiar with Melbourne, but thats about it. I am also going to take note of special conditions, because I know of some Obs who will say they do twin vaginal birth, but only with an epi so I want to make sure this information reflects that. So, I am happy to collate any lists of vaginal twin breech births, waterbirths (with a special mention about homebirth!), as well as VBAC friendly carers many have rules e.g. to 38 or 40 weeks, or max 41 so I want carers who dont have rules and will only intervene if medically necessary. Anything else you can think of let me know! Please send forth info [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best Regards, Kelly Zantey From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helen and GrahamSent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:20 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please... Hi Listers I think it would be great to have a list of both Waterbirth and Vaginal Breech Service providers.does anyone have the time or resources to do it? There is one hitch I know of with some vaginal breech providers. Some places that offer them will only offer them to their local women i.e. not those who just want to turn up from out of town or switch care providersa few weeks before they are due. Thismakes it difficult for people in remote areas wantinga vaginal breech birth. Even if they are prepared to travel, they may not be eligible... Helen - Original Message - From: Kelly Zantey To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 1:23 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please... Yes please!!! If you can include state/suburb and phone number please J Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator,BellyBelly.com.au Conception, Pregnancy, Birth and Baby BellyBelly Birth Support From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisa BarrettSent: Friday, December 22, 2006 1:09 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please... Do you want midwives Kelly? I attend them. Lisa Barrett - Original Message - From: Kelly Zantey To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:18 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please... I am compiling a list of Obs/carers who will support a woman for vaginal breech birth as I am seeing more breech women pop up and think they have no choice, booked in for caesars at 37-38wks. So if I can at least help them find a supportive carer, it makes it a heck of a lot easier to accept other info ;) So if you can please let me know if you have names of anyone doing vaginal breech birth around Australia, I am going to collate them. Thanks! Ps. I already have Lionel Steinberg (attended a great breech birth a couple of weeks ago with him as carer), Guy Skinner and David Freidin in Melbourne, would love stacks more. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey __ NOD32 1934 (20061221) Information __This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.eset.com50% off all leading brand cosmetics and free delivery at Strawberrynet ... click here to find out more -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please...
The moxa sticks close to the acupuncture points on the little toes has a good success rate too, or perhaps a combo of both.. From: "Diane Gardner" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please...Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:12:59 +1100 Ask the woman to talk to her baby while layinghead down on an ironing board that is leaning against the couch. Baby needs to know that there is a better way out and that she needs to uncross her feet and turn around. If she really relaxes her uterus that gives baby more room to move as well. Have her partner talk to the baby as well give it instructions on turning around. Many of you may laugh but there is a huge success rate talking to babies inutero. I know when I have turned (actually the babies do the turning) breech babies using hypnosis (simply relaxation of the body and no who-do-do-do) that the babies respond with arms and feet bulges everywhere as they are on the move, quite a funny sight. The babies are listening so ONLY positivetalking and positive birth stories. Ask her not to listen to the war stories out there as they often create fear and tension in the mum and the bub. regards Di Gardner - Original Message - From: Kelly Zantey To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 4:16 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please... OK, now I have a question for you breech and talipes. A woman has just said this: Scan came back all fine, but bubs feet are in the birth canal area and as she has talipes they think with her feet being crossed over she may have trouble moving them out of where they are. We'll just have to wait a few weeks and see. Any suggestions/comments I can pass on? Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator,BellyBelly.com.au Conception, Pregnancy, Birth and Baby BellyBelly Birth Support From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly ZanteySent: Friday, December 22, 2006 3:12 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please... Thank-you! And thanks to everyone in advance, I wont reply individually to everyone on the list to save clogging up emails, I will reply privately. http://www.bellybelly.com.au/articles/birth/breech-birth-in-australia - I shall have something up soon, its not live yet, creating it now. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Rachael AustinSent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:52 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please... Ian Etherington OB/Gyn works out of the Mater Hospital in Rockhampton and will support (even encourage) women to birth breech, so long as it isn't a footling. Merry Christmas, Rachael - Original Message - From: Kelly Zantey To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:48 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please... I am compiling a list of Obs/carers who will support a woman for vaginal breech birth as I am seeing more breech women pop up and think they have no choice, booked in for caesars at 37-38wks. So if I can at least help them find a supportive carer, it makes it a heck of a lot easier to accept other info ;) So if you can please let me know if you have names of anyone doing vaginal breech birth around Australia, I am going to collate them. Thanks! Ps. I already have Lionel Steinberg (attended a great breech birth a couple of weeks ago with him as carer), Guy Skinner and David Freidin in Melbourne, would love stacks more. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey __ NOD32 1.1725 (20060825) Information __This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.eset.comAdvertisement: Getting married? Tell us why to WIN @ LetsShop -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth
I'm guessing Royal Womens Hospital, Randwick Sydney... From: "Mary Murphy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] waterbirthDate: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:50:08 +0900 Hi everyone, I know this question has been asked before, but I cant remember the answer. Do we have any maternity units, birth centres etc who officially do waterbirth? I know homebirthers do, but I want to know about institutions. Thanks, MMAdvertisement: Meet Sexy Singles Today @ Lavalife - Click here -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth
Also the Birth Centre at King Edwards in Perth can 'unofficially' do them - if you get the right MW with you ;-) From: "Kristin Beckedahl" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] waterbirthDate: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:46:26 +0800 I'm guessing Royal Womens Hospital, Randwick Sydney... From: "Mary Murphy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] waterbirthDate: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:50:08 +0900 Hi everyone, I know this question has been asked before, but I cant remember the answer. Do we have any maternity units, birth centres etc who officially do waterbirth? I know homebirthers do, but I want to know about institutions. Thanks, MM Advertisement: Meet Sexy Singles Today @ Lavalife - Click here -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. 50% off all leading brand cosmetics and free delivery at Strawberrynet ... click here to find out more -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Use of sports drinks in labour
I used Endura during my 4 and a half labour - and really felt like I needed it due to the pace of things (and an early vomit !?!). I've also supported a couples of births where I have brought this along with me for the woman. Both of these births were *unremarkable* with mums birthing normally with no intervention etc with reasonably fast labours; 6 and 9hours. Kristin CBE Naturopath From: "Helen and Graham" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Use of sports drinks in labourDate: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 21:31:34 +1100 Thanks for the replies about the sports drinks in labour howeverI must say I am still a bit confused. I will have to do some more research I think Helen - Original Message - From: Honey Acharya To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Use of sports drinks in labour I believe in the value ofdrinks with electrolytes, not just water. Commonly used things areherb tea and honey, their own labour aide, juice, or sports drinks - one that I have used myself and seen recommended by others is Endura which has electrolytes and magnesium, lemon lime flavour is preferred and obtainable in a powder form in a tub for approx $30 at the health food shop or chemist. I haven't seen any evidence on it but to me it makes sense, we don't perform other physical activities for long periods and expect our bodies to keep functioning wellon just water and without sustenance, muscles continue to need energy and electrolytes to contract. If there are not studies done on it can you compare with studies on athletes? - Original Message - From: Helen and Graham To: ozmidwifery Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 8:38 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Use of sports drinks in labour Is anyone recommending women use sports drinks such as Poweraid etcwhen in labour? I have read some good evidence to suggest it is better than water in long labours but don't have the source at my fingertipsinterested in your thoughts/findings. I figure anything that can help keep a woman from tiring and being labelledby doctors as a "fail to progress" has got to be worth a tryas long asit is evidence based. Helen__ NOD32 1911 (20061208) Information __This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.eset.comAdvertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! www.seek.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding - Parliamentary inquiry
Isnt it ironic how BF rates are declining and cancer rates are increasing. Isnt it more ironic the amount of money (hundreds of billions!!) over the last 30 years that has been poured into cancer research yet the statistics are just as prevalent. Whatever happened to pouring money into prevention...? Drug companies, medical researchand government money are such good friends.sigh Kristin (feeling cynical VERY frustrated) From: "Barbara Glare Chris Bright" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding - Parliamentary inquiryDate: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 15:53:18 +1100 Dear Julie, We are hoping there will be some legislation around the marketing of infant formula - it's quite out of hand at the moment, and is having a detrimental effect on breastfeeding.At best breastfeeding rates are stagnating, and at worst they are declining - certainly not matching the government's own targets. We are hoping that all governments will take a lead role (as suggested in the media release) in promoting and supporting breastfeeding.When compared to other major health promotion targets, a miniscule amount is spent on breastfeeding, and often with a scattergun approach. We encourage all groups and individuals to make a submission to the parliamentary inquiry Barb - Original Message - From: Julie Clarke To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 9:01 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding - Parliamentary inquiry Dear Barb, This looks very promising below, what are you hoping will come of it? Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.julieclarke.com.au From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Glare Chris BrightSent: Friday, 8 December 2006 6:44 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding - Parliamentary inquiry # House of Representatives - Email alert service# Issued by: House of Representatives Liaison Projects Office, Wednesday 6 December 2006 Parliament launches new inquiry into breastfeeding Chairman of the House of Representatives Standing Committee on Health and Ageing, Alex Somlyay, today announced a new parliamentary inquiry into the health benefits of breastfeeding. Mr Somlyay said that the Committee will examine how the Australian government can take a lead role to improve the health of the population through support for breastfeeding. There is considerable evidence suggesting the health of the Australian population may be improved by increasing the rate of breastfeeding, Mr Somlyay said. The committee will be looking at the potential effects on the long term sustainability of Australias health system. In 2001, approximately 54per cent of babies were fully breastfed at 3 months of age or less, compared with around 32per cent of infants by 6 months of age or less. Rates of breastfeeding vary between different population groups. It is worth noting that there is anecdotal evidence that new mothers are not being closely supported or greatly encouraged to persist with breastfeeding, Mr Somlyay said. The public perception is that breastfeeding is not necessarily accepted as the most desirable way of nourishing young babies or preventing long term health problems. The Committee invites public submissions by 28 February 2007 on: How the Commonwealth government can take a lead role to improve the health of the Australian population through support for breastfeeding, with particular consideration to: · The extent of the health benefits of breastfeeding; · Evaluate the impact of marketing of breast milk substitutes on breastfeeding rates and, in particular, in disadvantaged, Indigenous and remote communities; · The potential short and long term impact on the health of Australians of increasing the rate of breastfeeding; · Initiatives to encourage breastfeeding; · Examine the effectiveness of current measures to promote breastfeeding; and · The impact of breastfeeding on the long term sustainability of Australias health system. For media interview with the Chairman: Please contact the Committee Secretary on 026277 4145. For a copy of the terms of reference and further information on making a submission: contact the Committee secretariat on (02) 6277 4145 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit the website at www.aph.gov.au/house/committee/haa Issued by: Andrew Dawson, media adviser, Liaison Projects Office, House of Representatives Tel: (02) 6277 2063 wk, 0401 143 724 mob. Have you got About the House magazine yet? Barb GlareMum of Zac, 12, Daniel, 10, Cassie 7 Guan 3Counsellor, Warrnambool
RE: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream
Thanks Cath...My Mum remembers it from her nursing days 15-20years ago - was this around then? And doy ou know much about it? Kristin From: "A C Palmer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] paed burn creamDate: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 18:56:05 +1000 Is it Silvazine? Cath Palmer -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristin BeckedahlSent: Friday, December 08, 2006 4:37 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream I'm trying to find out the name of the burn cream used in paed (and maybe others) wards for childrens burns - apparently been around for years and really helps to rapidly heal the wounds?? Any idea? Thanks, Kristin Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! www.seek.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. Join the millions of Australians using Live Search. Try live.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream
I'm not sure..what is SSD cream? From: "Rene and Tiffany" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] paed burn creamDate: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 19:55:04 +1000 Are you referring to SSD cream? René Tiff From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristin BeckedahlSent: Friday, 8 December 2006 4:37 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream I'm trying to find out the name of the burn cream used in paed (and maybe others) wards for childrens burns - apparently been around for years and really helps to rapidly heal the wounds?? Any idea? Thanks, Kristin Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! www.seek.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. image001.jpg Join the millions of Australians using Live Search. Try live.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] paed burn cream
I'm trying to find out the name of the burn cream used in paed (and maybe others) wards for childrens burns - apparently been around for years and really helps to rapidly heal the wounds?? Any idea? Thanks, KristinAdvertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! www.seek.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] retained placenta PPH
Thanks Andrea. Do you think this may have come back how 3rd stage was managed? ie. synto How likely is a natural 3rd stage to retain a placenta? Thanks, Kristin From: Andrea Quanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] retained placenta PPHDate: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 18:35:31 +1100The relationship between retained placenta and PPH is that the uterus that is not empty can not clamp down sufficiently to prevent bleeding from the placental site. Imagine that the placental site is about the size of a bread and butter plate and that this is characterised by masses of bleeding vessels that have sheared off as the placenta seperates. (Much like a huge graze that has had the skin sheared off bleeds) The wall of the uterus is full of fibres which surround these vessels and as the uterus becomes smaller they clamp off the bleeding vessels thus preventing haemorrhaging. While the seperated placenta remains in the uterus the vessels are free to bleed and the uterus can not clamp down sufficiently to prevent it. An elective casearean is not the answer as it may not happen again if the person attending her stops fiddling and leaves things alone. She needs to read up on 3rd stage choices Andrea Quanchi On 05/12/2006, at 3:28 PM, Kristin Beckedahl wrote: Hi all, Was chatting to a woman y'day re her first birth. She has very fast labour "woke up and was 6cm!", laboured for another 2.5hrs, reached 10cm "then they gave me the epidural"(which I am still wonderingabout?!?) Bub was posterior so "this allowed him to turn otherwise he wouldnt have come out or it would have been very messy!!". (again wondering about the messages this woman received or perceived..) Anyway, she went on to have a retained placenta (I'm presuming she had synto for 3rd stage) and began bleeding quite badly. How is a retained placenta and PPH related, or is it? I thought a retained placenta had come off the uterine and was caught behind closed/closing cervix? Please correct me if I am wrong... Anyway, her Ob has suggested an elective CS for her next baby (due May) to avoid this happening again - what the?! ggrrr Kristin CBE Naturopath Advertisement: Meet Sexy Singles Today @ Lavalife - Click here -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.Advertisement: Getting married? Tell us why to WIN @ LetsShop -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] retained placenta PPH
Hi all, Was chatting to a woman y'day re her first birth. She has very fast labour "woke up and was 6cm!", laboured for another 2.5hrs, reached 10cm "then they gave me the epidural"(which I am still wonderingabout?!?) Bub was posterior so "this allowed him to turn otherwise he wouldnt have come out or it would have been very messy!!". (again wondering about the messages this woman received or perceived..) Anyway, she went on to have a retained placenta (I'm presuming she had synto for 3rd stage) and began bleeding quite badly. How is a retained placenta and PPH related, or is it? I thought a retained placenta had come off the uterine and was caught behind closed/closing cervix? Please correct me if I am wrong... Anyway, her Ob has suggested an elective CS for her next baby (due May) to avoid this happening again - what the?! ggrrr Kristin CBE NaturopathAdvertisement: Meet Sexy Singles Today @ Lavalife - Click here -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] homebirth Qld
Excellent, thanks Ramona. K From: "nunyara" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] homebirth QldDate: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:10:15 +1000 Hi Kristin Im not sure about costs of Qld homebirths. Midwife details as follows: Carla Blonde Sunshine Coast Ph 54854397 Claire Hall Gympie Ph 54837131 or 0403/7005369 Danielle Bishoff Sunshine Coast Ph 0448/310789 Jenny Blyth Gympie Ph 54857184 or 0402/004620 Julie Williams Ph 54481761 or 0417/640869 Yolande Williams Morayfield (near Caboolture) Ph 54978402 Vicki Chan Landsborough Ph 54948554 Hope this helps Cheers Ramona Nunyara From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristin BeckedahlSent: Wednesday, 22 November 2006 2:44 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] homebirth Qld I did post thisalready - but not sure where it ended up..? What is the cost of a homebirth in Qld (south end)..? Can anyone give me some names of independent midwives also for this area? Kristin :-) New Release XBOX 360 Games staring from $39... Find out now! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. Advertisement: Looking for the latest range of toys available? Go to www.tradingpost.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] homebirth gold coast, Qld
Anyone have any referals for this area specifically? K From: "nunyara" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] homebirth QldDate: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:10:15 +1000 Hi Kristin Im not sure about costs of Qld homebirths. Midwife details as follows: Carla Blonde Sunshine Coast Ph 54854397 Claire Hall Gympie Ph 54837131 or 0403/7005369 Danielle Bishoff Sunshine Coast Ph 0448/310789 Jenny Blyth Gympie Ph 54857184 or 0402/004620 Julie Williams Ph 54481761 or 0417/640869 Yolande Williams Morayfield (near Caboolture) Ph 54978402 Vicki Chan Landsborough Ph 54948554 Hope this helps Cheers Ramona Nunyara From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristin BeckedahlSent: Wednesday, 22 November 2006 2:44 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] homebirth Qld I did post thisalready - but not sure where it ended up..? What is the cost of a homebirth in Qld (south end)..? Can anyone give me some names of independent midwives also for this area? Kristin :-) New Release XBOX 360 Games staring from $39... Find out now! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. Web. Images. News. Maps. Try searching here with Live Search. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] homebirth Qld
I did post thisalready - but not sure where it ended up..? What is the cost of a homebirth in Qld (south end)..? Can anyone give me some names of independent midwives also for this area? Kristin :-) New Release XBOX 360 Games staring from $39... Find out now! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] setting up a website
Thanks Diane - some great advice there, I shall follow it up and check out your website. I have seen a few others that I like the style of and suppose the 'style' can be replicated? From: "Diane Gardner" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] setting up a websiteDate: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 20:10:25 +1100 Hi Kristin The first thing you have to do is register your domain address. I did it with Anchor Systems Ltdhttp://www.anchor.com.auwhich costs me $65 for 2 years. When I asked them why they were so cheap they told me because they don't rip you off. I havehad a registration with them for 3 years now and there was no probs renewing it. You can also register through Telstra etc. Just shop around because they all vary in price depending on the company BUT they all do the same thing so more expensive is not necessarily better. You have to decide what it is you want in a website and whether you want to sell on it or just an info site. I've found that the selling on there can gert quite complicated so decided not to do it. Mine was done with a friend in Oklahoma but I also had another one designed with Gary Hegedus here in Melbourne who also filmed a DVD for me and it won't be up and running for a few months yet as I am still gathering information for him. He was really easy to deal with and lots of good ideas. His website iswww.ghproductions.com.auso check it out. He charges $500 to do a website including graphics as long as it isn't a 300 page website. He does them pretty quickly and hashad a lot of years of experience wthin the media industries. Such a bargain and a really nice guy. I highly recommend him and that's important these days with so many around. regards Diane G www.dianegardner.com.au - Original Message ----- From: Kristin Beckedahl To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 6:01 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] setting up a website Speaking of our independent services... My next adventure is setting up a website. Whose got one and can anyone give me a ballpark figure at how much this is going to cost me, and how long the process can take? Thanks. Kristin (CBE, Naturopath) Advertisement: Looking for the latest range of toys available? Go to www.tradingpost.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. Advertisement: Looking to expand your DVD collection? Go to www.tradingpost.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] setting up a website
Thanks Kelly - where do you recommend I register my website name with? From: "Kelly @ BellyBelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] setting up a websiteDate: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 21:27:16 +1100 Net Registry are only $40 dollars for a .com.au domain name (2yrs) and are the biggest seller of domain names in Australia they also have an instant website tool amongst others which would be for free with their hosting plans. I think their current special is a month hosting free. Depending on what you want, I can help you with something basic like this: www.abpnsconference2007.com.au which I recently whipped up in a few hours but I dont do complex sites or shopping carts, unfortunately dont have the time. So if its an information site I can help, but if you plan to sell lots of items and do lots of editing then you could look for someone who does web design full time. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Diane GardnerSent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 8:10 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] setting up a website Hi Kristin The first thing you have to do is register your domain address. I did it with Anchor Systems Ltdhttp://www.anchor.com.auwhich costs me $65 for 2 years. When I asked them why they were so cheap they told me because they don't rip you off. I havehad a registration with them for 3 years now and there was no probs renewing it. You can also register through Telstra etc. Just shop around because they all vary in price depending on the company BUT they all do the same thing so more expensive is not necessarily better. You have to decide what it is you want in a website and whether you want to sell on it or just an info site. I've found that the selling on there can gert quite complicated so decided not to do it. Mine was done with a friend in Oklahoma but I also had another one designed with Gary Hegedus here in Melbourne who also filmed a DVD for me and it won't be up and running for a few months yet as I am still gathering information for him. He was really easy to deal with and lots of good ideas. His website iswww.ghproductions.com.auso check it out. He charges $500 to do a website including graphics as long as it isn't a 300 page website. He does them pretty quickly and hashad a lot of years of experience wthin the media industries. Such a bargain and a really nice guy. I highly recommend him and that's important these days with so many around. regards Diane G www.dianegardner.com.au - Original Message - From: Kristin Beckedahl To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 6:01 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] setting up a website Speaking of our independent services... My next adventure is setting up a website. Whose got one and can anyone give me a ballpark figure at how much this is going to cost me, and how long the process can take? Thanks. Kristin (CBE, Naturopath) Advertisement: Looking for the latest range of toys available? Go to www.tradingpost.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. New Release XBOX 360 Games as low as $39... Find out now! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] setting up a website
Speaking of our independent services... My next adventure is setting up a website. Whose got one and can anyone give me a ballpark figure at how much this is going to cost me, and how long the process can take? Thanks. Kristin (CBE, Naturopath)Advertisement: Looking for the latest range of toys available? Go to www.tradingpost.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc
Hi Catherine, Most naturopaths/herbalists can make it up for you. Ensure they do work with womens health/birth preparation and they will probably be familair with it. You will probably have to have a consultatoin before they prescribe. Email me off list if you dont have much luck with this option. Kristin From: "gypsymidwife" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etcDate: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:35:08 +1000 Dear Kristin Can you tell me specifically where I can purchase this potion ? As a 42 year old primip , I need all the help I can get to keep the obstetric demons away from me, as I nowdon't have a lot choise when it comes to birthing places. I am confident that I will birth well with the help of my husband and great midwife/friend, supporting me but the birth now will probably be a hospital. Feel free to email me off list if you like, on [EMAIL PROTECTED] With Thanks Catherine - Original Message ----- From: Kristin Beckedahl To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:49 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc Pip, Have you considered a partus-prep herbal tincture formula as well. Usually start at 34/40 at low dose and gradually increase over the weeks until labour. I give it to all keen mums-to-be. Typically I make it a mix ofof squaw vine, false unicorn root, raspberry leaves, chaste tree etc etc. The first bottle (from 34-38 weeks) is slightly different from 2nd bottle (38-40+). I put a few extra herbs in the 2nd bottle that are better to use closer to term. Combination of actions include uterine tonics, uterine astringents, hormonal support and working towards efficent cxns with minimal pp loss. Good levels of Vit C, Iron, and Zinc also indicated to reduce pph risk too... Cheers, Kristin (Naturopath/Herbalist) New Release XBOX 360 Games staring from $39... Find out now! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. New Release XBOX 360 Games staring from $39... Find out now! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc
Pip, Have you considered a partus-prep herbal tincture formula as well. Usually start at 34/40 at low dose and gradually increase over the weeks until labour. I give it to all keen mums-to-be. Typically I make it a mix ofof squaw vine, false unicorn root, raspberry leaves, chaste tree etc etc. The first bottle (from 34-38 weeks) is slightly different from 2nd bottle (38-40+). I put a few extra herbs in the 2nd bottle that are better to use closer to term. Combination of actions include uterine tonics, uterine astringents, hormonal support and working towards efficent cxns with minimal pp loss. Good levels of Vit C, Iron, and Zinc also indicated to reduce pph risk too... Cheers, Kristin (Naturopath/Herbalist)New Release XBOX 360 Games staring from $39... Find out now! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc
I used to offer women the 5W capsules if they didnt want the liquid tincture (an acquired taste for some). The tincture formula can vary from woman to woman depending on any significant Hx and also her stress levels and general pregnancy health, but the basis is due to its uterine actions and overall pregnancy tonics. From: "Tania Smallwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etcDate: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:59:26 +1030 Hi Kristin, This sounds a lot like the Natures sunshine product called 5W thats no longer available here in Australia. Ive used it for the last year for heavy menstrual bleeding and it works a treat! Helps with cramps, soothes the belly, lightens the bleed, no clots probably too much information, but Ive seen great things postnatally with it too, wondering if thats what you base your tincture on? Tania From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristin BeckedahlSent: Thursday, 16 November 2006 12:20 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc Pip, Have you considered a partus-prep herbal tincture formula as well. Usually start at 34/40 at low dose and gradually increase over the weeks until labour. I give it to all keen mums-to-be. Typically I make it a mix ofof squaw vine, false unicorn root, raspberry leaves, chaste tree etc etc. The first bottle (from 34-38 weeks) is slightly different from 2nd bottle (38-40+). I put a few extra herbs in the 2nd bottle that are better to use closer to term. Combination of actions include uterine tonics, uterine astringents, hormonal support and working towards efficent cxns with minimal pp loss. Good levels of Vit C, Iron, and Zinc also indicated to reduce pph risk too... Cheers, Kristin (Naturopath/Herbalist) New Release XBOX 360 Games staring from $39... Find out now! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. --No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.6/535 - Release Date: 15/11/2006 --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.6/535 - Release Date: 15/11/2006Win a $40K private Lear Jet experience with Flight Sim X! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] vulva varocise veins
Can anyone offer another remedy to help ease these besides external witch hazel? Thanks, Kristin110,000+ cars with the click of a mouse at carsales.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] vulva varocise veins
Thanks Janet - I shall pass those on. :-) Kristin From: "Janet Fraser" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] vulva varocise veinsDate: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 13:12:01 +1100 http://www.gentlebirth.org/Midwife/miscdisc.html#Vulvar - Original Message ----- From: Kristin Beckedahl To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 12:30 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] vulva varocise veins Can anyone offer another remedy to help ease these besides external witch hazel? Thanks, Kristin 110,000+ cars with the click of a mouse at carsales.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. Its simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] twins labour/birth
Thanks to all for your reponses. I shall digest and relay this information 'gently' to the CBE couple I have. Already (since doing the course) they have changed Obst and also hospitals, plus are also arranging a doula. You are all right in saying there are no guarantees and it will come down to the day, and especially Twin 2. But in saying that I am a firm believer in the effort to communicate and perhaps negiotate with caregivers as much as possible, at least that way (regardless of the outcome) they feel they have given it their best shot and taken the opportunity to make informed choices around the birththis may lessen the 'what if's." a little later perhaps? Cheers, Kristin Meet Sexy Singles Today @ Lavalife - Click here -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] twins labour/birth
I have a couple of questions re twins: Can you do EFM with twins ? Or are they usually monitored with the doppler? How long is is typically between twins birth? Is it usually baby-placenta, baby-placenta or can it be baby-baby-placenta-placenta? If ECV is needed to help Twin 2 - does the mother need any medication for this? Big thanks, KristinSee The Killers in the UK. Download mobile stuff to win! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Do Doulas need insurance?
I have been asked this by a couple who would like me to be their doula at their birth. I said that I consider myself as 'birth support' and could be a friend, relative or even a midwife off duty I suppose...? Does anyone know anymore about insurance and doulas? As a Naturopath, I have Medical Malpractise Public/Products liability - which also covers me for my CBE work. Kristin Sell ANYTHING for $10 or less at tradingpost.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Rest phase before 2nd stage
I know this was recently discussed on the list - but I was wondering how long you lovely midwives haveseen this occur for within a natural labour? I remembermine lasting about 10mins (enough time to get out of the car - nota great place to do transition! - and into BC) What is considered too long? 2 hours? What are the 'typical time limits' - when would risk factors be considered? Thanks, Kristin Research and compare new cars side by side at carpoint.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] hep B at birth
Does anyone know of an article for parents or a link I could use for the 'other side of the argument' for Hep B shot at birth for my CBE couples..? I can only find the government prodcued brochures etc.. Thanks, KristinFind your old friends and discover what they're doing now. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Fwd: term breech trial
Here, here Mary. Kristin From: "Mary Murphy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Fwd: term breech trialDate: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 16:21:25 +0800 When else would we allow a supposedly expert practitioner to say we dont have the skills and we are unwilling to develop them so that women can feel confident in our care.? How about a midwife who says, Oh no, I dont have the necessary midwifery skills to look after you in a holistic way, and Im not interested in learning either. It is outrageous!!. MM Also the Ob's when questioned have been using that as the excuse-lack of skill- for not supportive vaginal breech when asked about it by the women. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] New Inventors birth seat
It was great to hear the 'inside' story re the birth seat, ie from midwives that have attended women using them. Perhaps this kind of feedback could get to the midwife who decided it; maybe they can alter it somehow to have the back resting on hydraulics (!) so the woman can move around a little - or is that just a little too ambitious - ? LOL Kristin From: "Kristin Beckedahl" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] New Inventors birth seatDate: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 08:53:59 +0800 Did anyone else manage to catch this on Wednesday night - I only managed to get the info from their website after the event, but its looks wonderful!!! http://www.abc.net.au/newinventors/txt/s1754147.htm (you can play the video too) What a fanastic invention - apparently quite 'cheap' too.. Not sure if she won the nights award - but cant wait for the day when these are standards in hospitals and universities for mid training... Kristin -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] GBS and Staph
I was found to be positive with GBS and refused IV treatment in labour, baby was fine with no signs of GBS at all on swabbing. Kristin From: "Melissa Singer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] GBS and StaphDate: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 18:53:33 +0800 I thought group b strep and staph aureaus are different organisms? Staph infections on vaginal swab require no treatment or preventative abs in labour. Staph seems to have no effects on baby (that they haven't found out yet!) and it is a normal colonisation of the skin only becoming a issue in the sick, and immunocompromised. I not 100% sure and am getting ready for work so no time to look it up yet. (p.s sharon, where i work we use benzpennicillin 1.2grams then 600mg every four hours.) Regards Melissa - Original Message - From: sharon To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:35 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] GBS and Staph Thats right gbs is group b streph which is found on vaginal swab at 36 weeks treated with benzpennicillin during labour every 4 hours commencing with a loading dose of 3 gms then 1.2 gm every four hours while in active labour. Regards sharon From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ceri KatrinaSent: Friday, 6 October 2006 7:32 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] GBS and Staph Isn't GBS a staph infection??? Been awhile since I was at work, relishing in the time off work with little munchkin who is now 3 and bit months old.katrinaOn 06/10/2006, at 7:06 PM, Kelly @ BellyBelly wrote: One of the women on my site has just found out she has both of these things. She said she has googled for hours and cant find anything on Staph specifically. Can someone pass on some knowledge on what this is going to mean? I have never heard of someone having both before . Shes almost 38wks Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator,BellyBelly.com.auConception, Pregnancy, Birth and BabyBellyBelly Birth Support -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] New Inventors birth seat
Did anyone else manage to catch this on Wednesday night - I only managed to get the info from their website after the event, but its looks wonderful!!! http://www.abc.net.au/newinventors/txt/s1754147.htm (you can play the video too) What a fanastic invention - apparently quite 'cheap' too.. Not sure if she won the nights award - but cant wait for the day when these are standards in hospitals and universities for mid training... Kristin -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Twins
Hi all, I'm a CBE and have had a call from a lady with twins looking to attend the course I'm running. Seeing I've never had much to do with twins (preg, birthor babycare) I was hoping some of you could shed some light on some important points or issues that I could pass onto her. Thanks so much, Kristin -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] mec staining
Hi all, Are all cases of mec liquor staining considered serious or treated as an emergency? Can you have staining and fetal heart rate be OK? Thanks, Kristin -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Birth Stats for specific hospitals
Hi all, Does anyone have a short cut way to get birthing/intervention stats from a hospital? Who/what/where do I call/ask for...? I'm trying to get hold of Kind Edwards Memorial Hospital and St. John of God - both inPerth Big thanks in advance, Kristin -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] birth dvd?
Inner Strength (birth centre in Austria) is one of my top 3 - along with Giving Birth, Being Born and The Birth of Neko Pilara (NZ) and a good Australian one is Aiming for a Natural Birth... From: "Natalie" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] birth dvd?Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:01:10 +0800 Hi Rachael I purchased Giving Birth Being Bornfor antenatal classes and get a lot of positive feedback it features women naturally giving birth (in a birth clinic in Austria) in a wonderful birth room, and is accompanied by gentle music and the natural sounds of labour. Very empowering Natalie ---Original Message--- From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Date: 08/22/06 07:35:05 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] birth dvd? I am desperately searching for a good dvd of birth for CBE, and I'm unable to find an appropriate dvd. I wonder if any of you wise women have a recommendation that fits my criteria: Normal birth (preferably without analgesia) Midwifery led care Woman NOT birthing on her back/semi supine Not a waterbirth (unfortunately) Midwife NOT 'directing' the second stage - "chin on your chest and push" etc Midwife NOT fiddling about with baby's head when it is on the perineum Peferably filmed in the last few years Perhaps I am being a bit unrealistic - but it would be nice. I can't bring myself to show the group the hospital videos because they go against everything I discuss with the group. Thanks Rachel _ Windows Live Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] vaginal breech
Hi all, Why are breech (sometimes) routinely CS'd. What risks are they actually trying to avoid for the baby? Kristin -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] CS Stats - WA
Does anyone know off the top of thier head (?) what the 2005 CS stats were for WA? I've looked on Dept Health WA website but can only find perinatal stat report for 2003... Any leads would be appreciated. Thanks, Kristin -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] homebirth childrens book
whoops its www.chrissybutler.com(no.au) From: "Kristin Beckedahl" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] homebirth childrens bookDate: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 13:05:57 +0800 Just letting those involved in homebirth about a new childrens book about homebirth called "Welcome Home Jimi Jazz", written and illustrated by a HBAC woman in NSW called Chrissy Butler. The pictures are amazing and the story just beautiful, esp the one of the baby crowning !! www.chrissybutler.com.au K-- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] homebirth childrens book
Just letting those involved in homebirth about a new childrens book about homebirth called "Welcome Home Jimi Jazz", written and illustrated by a HBAC woman in NSW called Chrissy Butler. The pictures are amazing and the story just beautiful, esp the one of the baby crowning !! www.chrissybutler.com.au K -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Perineal massage
I did it personally and didnt tear, and 3 couples I have worked with prenatally also did it and didnt tear. I always recommend it - from 36 weeks, 1-2 x day, 5x week, for 5minutes each time. I also let them know the others factors that prevent tearing too (position, pushing when body tells you too, hands off etc) hth.. From: "Helen and Graham" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: "ozmidwifery" ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Perineal massageDate: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:57:01 +1000 Just wondering whether everyone is recommending perineal massage antenatally as a way of reducing the risk of tearing? I have read research to suggest it has been effective so I have just started to tell women about it. I also am careful to say that it may not work but there is no harm in trying. I remember it was bandied around years ago but there wasn't any research to support it's effectiveness back then. What are your thoughts Helen -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] community mid program WA
Can someone tell me why other states in Australia do not embrace the initiative of aCommunity Mid Programme, like the one in WA. I'm sure there is a reason or two for it not being a national program; and I presume its cuaght up with government? money? insurance? demand? Love to hear your thoughts... Kristin -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] vernix
Is it true that if bubs have a bit of vernix on them when born, they are a little 'early'...? K -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] doula for nambour hospital
Hi Lynne...just chasing some details for the Doula you mentioned (Dana) for the Nambour Hospital.. I will seeing the coupel again tomorrow..Thanks alot, Kristin. From: "Kristin Beckedahl" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] doula for nambour hospitalDate: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 10:07:14 +0800 Thanks LynneI'll await more info:-) From: "Lynne Staff" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] doula for nambour hospitalDate: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 11:00:56 +1000 There is a lovely doula called Dana up here. I will get her number for your friends. Regards, Lynne - Original Message - From: Kristin Beckedahl To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 9:15 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] doula for nambour hospital I have a couple moving back to Qld (sunshinecoast) from WA, and it looks af it Nambour hospital (pub or priv) will be where they are planning to birth. They REALLY want to get a doula for the birth.can anyone recommend anyone? Big thanks, K.-- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.-- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Rx for PIH at 36/40
What is the usual Rx for PIH at this stage? I have heard about magnesium therapy - can anyone give me some dosage ideas? How is the Mg administered? What form is the Mg (phosphate/sulphate etc?) Thanks, K -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] blood loss after 3rd stage
I'm wondering whats the average blood loss volume after 3rd stage...? what are the upper lower ends ? and what amount would require treatment..? Thanks! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] doula for nambour hospital
I have a couple moving back to Qld (sunshinecoast) from WA, and it looks af it Nambour hospital (pub or priv) will be where they are planning to birth. They REALLY want to get a doula for the birth.can anyone recommend anyone? Big thanks, K. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] degrees of high BP in preg
wise women... At what point does high blood pressure become an issue in preg? what is a 'normal' reading for a healthy preg woman? What reading is considered 'high-risk' or requiring action (without proteinuria)...? Big thanks From: Andrea Quanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] students learningDate: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 19:57:06 +1000If the woman invites the student to be there and the MIPP is happy what prevents them from being there. Surely we are letting them know what the real world is like and the reality is that MIPP are working uninsured and having to cope with what that means in reality. This is no different from when I attend a hospital with a woman and the hospital says that they only recognise me as a support person. I could let that stop me from going there but I don't. If students want to be at hom births they will, they will learn heaps and if they cant write it down on paper for the uni then dont but dont let it stop them from attending because the experience is to valuable to waste.Andrea QuanchiOn 01/06/2006, at 7:03 PM, Stephen Felicity wrote:I think perhaps you women are the "lucky" ones; I only recently had an email from a student midwife in SA, lamenting that she is unable to attend homebirths unless the midwife is "publicly employed" (ie: not a MIPP). Since the only homebirth midwives employed by the Government in SA are part of the Northern Women's Community Midwifery Program, anyone not fortunate enough to be in that region has zero opportunity to work "in all situations". This is clearly an insurance issue as well as an educational institution issue...but it's all one and the same at the end of the day, isn't it? It's all just part of the overall climate for midwifery and birthing women in our country.- Original Message - From: "Kirsten Dobbs" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 5:10 PMSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] students learningI can back up Kate, (as we attend the same uni!)I have only ever been encouraged and supported to attend births withindependent midwives by our uni.Kirsten-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kate and/or NickSent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:57 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] students learningFor fyi, student midwives here in SA are *forbidden* to seek experienceof any kind with any independently practicing midwife, on threat of afail grade for the clinical topic /or expulsion from the course.While this is the case at one uni, it does not appear to be at the otheruni. We have a lay midwife doing the Bmid who will be doing her practicumwith an independent midwife. We believe we are able to participate inhomebirths, and I am certainly hoping to do just that.Kate--This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.--This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.--This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.--This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] new idea
You go girl! From: Emily [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] new ideaDate: Wed, 3 May 2006 01:06:55 -0700 (PDT) heres my letter i tried to be nice and respectful and kept trying to keep in mind that everyone has good intentions theyre just obviously uninformed and scared !! it worked for a second and then i was just furious again hahaha we'll see what my reply is Hi, I am a 4th year medical student and feel the need to write after reading your recent article on caesareans vs vaginal birth. While I'm sure this was an attempt to provide useful information to your readers about an obviously thought-provoking issue of great interest to your readers, the result I'm sorry to say is a biased article that provokes fear and perpetuates many myths. In the current era of sky-rocketing intervention rates and theterrible hospitalbirth experiences that go with them, it is little wonder that 80% of gynaecologists would choose a caesarean ! Obstetrician/Gynaecologists are usually only called on to deal with problems and complications of pregnancy and birth and as such, often develop a skewed view of the inherent risks, despite the evidence. This does not mean however, that other women should be encouraged to make this choice. There are many medical complications, only a very small number of which are pointed out in the article, associated with caesareans. This is not to mention the psychological complications that can come with caesareans due to separation from their babies and the difficulty of caring for a small baby while recovering from major abdominal surgery. We only need to look to the US, with around a 30% caesarean rate and still rated 31st for perinatal mortality rates to see that caesarean sections are not the safe and inert procedure they are often made out to be and do not help countriesto keep more babies alive. The point made about scheduling the day of birth is a particularly sad one. It is shocking that our society puts the health and wellbeing of their babies (who will be born when they are fully ready to be) behind their quest for instant gratification and control over their lives. If ever, this is one time that we should give over to nature and forget our need to schedule, organise and plan everything to the minute detail. It is also sad that our 'husbands' may not be able to make time to be with us when their child is born unless it fits neatly into a schedule ! The statistic given for uterine rupture during a vaginal birth after caesarean is in fact quite accurate (1 in 200.) The reasons it is biased are firstly, because very few readers have any experience with which to guage this against (for example that common interventions like amniocentesis that arerecommended every day havedouble this risk of miscarriage ie 1 in 100,) that half of all uterine ruptures occur in women who have not everhad a prior caesarean and that not all uterine ruptures are fatal anyway. The risks given for 'natural birth' are particularly misleading and fear provoking and are extremely dangerous suggestions to be putting out to a generation of women. The risk of 'uncontrolled tearing' which we call a 3rd or 4th degree tear is in fact very low. This does however, become a more common problem when the birth process is interefered with by cutting the perineum - another intervention. The risk of urinary incontinence has been shown time and time again to be unrelated to the mechanism of delivery. Women who undergo caesarean sections experience urinary incontinence at the same rates as those who have vaginal births. And yes, as you have pointed out, caesareans are usually relatively quick but what you fail to mention is the long period of recovery and pain that goes with this surgery and the fact that women who have vaginal births are usually much quicker to be up and about and leave hospital. I hope that you will think again before printing information of this nature again. It does discredit New Idea to those who know the evidence surrounding these issues. Although there may be no outright lies in this article, it is blindingly biased and really unhelpful in helping women and families in their birth journey. I also hope that you will be printing an apology and some evidence, perhaps care of a midwife, as they are the experts of normal birth, not us medical people. If not I will be recommending to all the GPs, hospitals and birth centres that I'm involved with not to buy or allow your magazine in waiting rooms, due to it's fear-provoking and over-simplified articles. Regards Emily Dorman New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Mastitis question
I was 'lucky' to experience mastitis 1st hand with bub at 7 mths. I did hot packs massage before and during feeds, and did ice packs on/off afterwards. I also pumped the breast inbetween feeds, and took Phytolacca 30 homeopathic throughout the day. AT night I took 2 panadol ( I had fever, chills and felt deadly!!) and went to bed. I was right as rein in the morning and very proud that I avoided anything more dramatic such as AB etc.. From: "Mary Murphy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Mastitis questionDate: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 11:57:04 +0800 I usually advise clients to the old adage heat, rest, empty the breast plus cabbage leaves plus or minus homeopathic Brauers Antinplex (anti-inflamation) or belladonna 6c. Usually correct positioning and free access to the breast = no mastitis, however some women do have problems and I usually look deeper then. This has to be handled very carefully and even if I suspect underlying baggage I may not bring it up. MM Vitamin C (and/or homeopathics) would be my first choice before anitbiotics. Here's how I heard about it from a friend: "A trick my midwife taught me for plugged ducts is to up your vitamin c. If you're justgetting "sore" - and not a full fledged infection just taking 1000mgfor a few days would be enough. If you get an infection take 4000mgof vit c and then 1000 every day for 7 days AFTER the infection isgone. Works beautifully." And it has worked wonderfully for me. I did take antibiotics (x2) when my 2nd daughter was a couple of weeks old and wish I had known about this then. With my 3rd daughter I used vitamin C only and it cleared it up quickly. Always would flare up on the days I had to walk daughter number 1 to school (overdoing it!). Cheers, Lea Mason, AAHCCCertified Bradley® Natural Childbirth Educator Labour Support Professionalhttp://www.birthsteps.com.au - Original Message - From: sharon To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Mastitis question where i work we encourage women to express on the side that they are infected and continue feeding on the other side until the infection clears, the infection should be treated by antibiotics and if severe admission to hospital for iv antibugs. if the breastmilk has blood in it we discourage any breastfeeding whatsoever and get the mother to express all feeds until the infection passes she then can resume b/feeding when she feels better but ensure that the breast is always empty after feeding. regards sharon - Original Message - From: Megan Larry To: ozmidwifery Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:03 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Mastitis question Can a mother pass on her infecton to her breastfeeding child when she has mastitis? Its just that I had what to me was obvious mastitis on Sat, quite a decent case of it, very sore breast, redness, fever, vomiting, quite ill. Still recovering on Monday when my breastfeeding 22 mth old developed a fever and vomiting. This morning he is quite recovered but no doubt will need a very quiet day still. So, is this a coincidence, or can the child become infected too? We were both rundown form a busy few weeks, so the rest was well needed, just wanted it without the misery. Thanks in advance Megan -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] group B strep
Thanks Mary, I'll look into that :) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] BF videos
Can anyone recommend a really good BF video..?? I have only seen Follow Me Mum which I liked very much (altho the bub was not newborn?). Are there any other good ones to chase up? Thanks -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] group B strep
Can anyone offer some recent stats/links/articles on Group B Strep and the effectiveness of antibiotics for it during labour...many thanks... -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] fractured pelvis
No previous CS or pregnancies yet! From: "brendamanning" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fractured pelvisDate: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:58:05 +1000 Doh ! I think I just threw in a red herring !!! Speed reading not always so accurate huh ? With kind regardsBrenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au - Original Message - From: Ken Ward To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 1:20 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] fractured pelvis Why are we worrying about a vbac? Has this woman already had a previous c/s? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kristin BeckedahlSent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 9:10 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fractured pelvis Yes! My thoughts exactly Brenda! :) From: "brendamanning" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fractured pelvisDate: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:50:43 +1000 Kristin, No never rule a VBAC out, always consider the individual circumstances. It cost nothing to try ! You can always opt out if there are any signs of problems. With kind regardsBrenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au - Original Message - From: Kristin Beckedahl To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 5:53 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] fractured pelvis What is the likelihood of CS with a woman whose 22 and has a Hx of fracturing her pelvis in 3 places in a car accident? Would a vaginal birth be totally ruled out?-- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.-- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] fractured pelvis
Brenda, I did send you an email...? Anyway its [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! From: "brendamanning" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fractured pelvisDate: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:13:19 +1000 Kristin, I can't reply off-list to you re the Doula query because I don't have your email address. Would you like to send it or are you over the 'query stage' now ??? With kind regardsBrenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au - Original Message ----- From: Kristin Beckedahl To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fractured pelvis Yes! My thoughts exactly Brenda! :) From: "brendamanning" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fractured pelvisDate: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:50:43 +1000 Kristin, No never rule a VBAC out, always consider the individual circumstances. It cost nothing to try ! You can always opt out if there are any signs of problems. With kind regardsBrenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au - Original Message - From: Kristin Beckedahl To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 5:53 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] fractured pelvis What is the likelihood of CS with a woman whose 22 and has a Hx of fracturing her pelvis in 3 places in a car accident? Would a vaginal birth be totally ruled out?-- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.-- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] fractured pelvis
What is the likelihood of CS with a woman whose 22 and has a Hx of fracturing her pelvis in 3 places in a car accident? Would a vaginal birth be totally ruled out? -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] fractured pelvis
How could she confirm this? From: "Ken Ward" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] fractured pelvisDate: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:29:39 +1000 No, a vaginal birth is very possible. It all depends on where the fractures occurred, if they actually involved the in/outlets. They rarely do. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kristin BeckedahlSent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 5:54 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] fractured pelvis What is the likelihood of CS with a woman whose 22 and has a Hx of fracturing her pelvis in 3 places in a car accident? Would a vaginal birth be totally ruled out?-- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] fractured pelvis
Yes! My thoughts exactly Brenda! :) From: "brendamanning" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fractured pelvisDate: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:50:43 +1000 Kristin, No never rule a VBAC out, always consider the individual circumstances. It cost nothing to try ! You can always opt out if there are any signs of problems. With kind regardsBrenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au - Original Message ----- From: Kristin Beckedahl To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 5:53 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] fractured pelvis What is the likelihood of CS with a woman whose 22 and has a Hx of fracturing her pelvis in 3 places in a car accident? Would a vaginal birth be totally ruled out?-- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] the doula the midwife
Hi all, I will be attending my first birth in May as a doula. I am very excited to say the least. I have heard different stories re the relationships between midwives and doulas, and was hoping the midwives can shed some light on the situation for me. Any tips for the doula-midwife thingto make this birth experience as positive as possible would also be welcomed!!Thanks! Kristin -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Attendant / Doula Directory
Hi Kelly, I am a doula in WA (north west)...can I add myself to your list? Thanks Kristin. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] premature urge to push
Thanks Sue... What is usually done to remedy it.? From: Susan Cudlipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] premature urge to push Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:21:42 +0800 Sometimes happens with OP positions. Sue The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing Edmund Burke - Original Message - From: Kristin Beckedahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 4:19 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] premature urge to push Hi all, A good friend, during her labour, got to 3-4cm and had an uncontrollable urge to push. Her doula, midwives and all tried everything to perhaps lessen the sensation...to no avail. She ended up with CS. Now, what is this all about...? I'm thinking maybe presenting part doing something unusual?? Would love some knowledge re this? Ta -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/307 - Release Date: 10/04/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] premature urge to push
Hi all, A good friend, during her labour, got to 3-4cm and had an uncontrollable urge to push. Her doula, midwives and all tried everything to perhaps lessen the sensation...to no avail. She ended up with CS. Now, what is this all about...? I'm thinking maybe presenting part doing something unusual?? Would love some knowledge re this? Ta -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Rhogam product
Dear List, In regards to the recent discussion on the RhoGAM product offered to Rh- women whilst pregnant (at 28/40 32??/40)...and the effects of potential mercury in these items on the unborn babe. Could somebody please confirm for me which product the mother needs to ensure the midwife offers her.. Is it BAYROH-D or WINRHO SDF...? Or if both, is one perferred over the other..? Many thanks, Kristin -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Dear List, I have recently heard of the Anti-D that can be given during pregnancy (28weeks?) for the prevention of HDN... does anyone know how effective it is, and if it is safe...? Thanks, Kristin -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: anit-D
Thanks for that info Marilyn! Could you direct me to the articles of Sara Wickham's you spoke of? Cheers, K. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Naturopathy for Hypertension.
Dear Mary, There are some great anti-hypertensive herbs available. Liquids (e.g. MediHerb) are better than tablets and practitioner-only ranges are better than OTC. Most of these work through their anti-spasmodic and/or relaxant properties actions to the smooth muscle cells. I would suggest a combination formula of Mistletoe, Lime flowers, and Hawthorn berrys (also a general cardiac and circulatory tonic). Nutritionally; magnesium and calcium are also required for muscle-cell communication and more importantly 'turning off' spasm and tension. Essential Fatty acids (EPO, flaxseed, and fish oils), and Co-Q enzyme 10. Also lots of freshgarlic and onions daily. STRESS - is a major contributor and needs to be addressed; exercise, Bach flowers, meditation, yoga etc. Perhaps a holiday ? - After all she sounds like she has her hands full already, let alone her coping with her recent loss .. Kristin Kristin Beckedahl Naturopath, Nutritionist, Herbalist Natural Fertility Management Karratha - Western Australia Ph: 61 8 9185 1982 ~ Optimise your potential well-being ~Protect your inbox from harmful viruses with new ninemsn Premium. Click here. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] rhesus neg mother
nal Message - From: Mary Murphy To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] rhesus neg mother Hi Terry,That is amazing, but I do know that some Jehova Witness members who have had a similar experience with no harm to their subsequent positive babies.Puzzling eh?Cheers, MM Hi Kristen, Some hope, I have had an Rh neg women have 4 pregnancies her babies were positive, she declined Anti D for her own reasons, and went on to have normal healthy pregnancies and births without problems. Terry Stockdale - Original Message - From: Kristin Beckedahl To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 3:09 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] rhesus neg mother Dear List, I have a 33year woman, with a repro history - 4 x TOP, and recently (3-4 weeks) a miscarrige at 12 weeks ( fetus didnt develop much past 7-9 weeks?) She is O -ve blood group and all TOP were followed with Anti-D.However following the recently complete miscarriage, she was not given Anti-D.It seems the doctor 'forgot', 'didnt realise' or was incompetent..?!? No D C was performed. She is concerned now her future pregnancy will be affected.Her partner is + ve grp. What does she need to do to confirm whether her subsequent preg are at risk? How risky is this for her and babe? During TOP or miscarriages does much of the fetus blood pass into the mothers circulation? Thanks for your help!, Kristin Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Click here. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. E-mail just got a whole lot better. New ninemsn Premium. Upgrade now! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] rhesus neg mother
Dear List, I have a 33year woman, with a repro history - 4 x TOP, and recently (3-4 weeks) a miscarrige at 12 weeks( fetusdidnt develop much past 7-9 weeks?) She is O -ve blood group and all TOP were followed with Anti-D. However following the recently complete miscarriage, she was not given Anti-D. It seems the doctor 'forgot', 'didnt realise' or was incompetent..?!? No D C was performed. She is concerned now her future pregnancy will be affected. Her partner is + ve grp. What does she need to do to confirm whether her subsequent preg are at risk?Howrisky is this for her and babe? During TOP or miscarriages does much of the fetus blood pass into the mothers circulation? Thanks for your help!, KristinHot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Click here. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Northern WA
From: "Kristin Beckedahl" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Homebirth North West WA Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 13:21:03 +1100 D! ear List, I have a client who resides in Karratha, WA (about 1,600km north of Perth) and is hoping wholeheartedly for a natural and active birth, at home with a homebirth midwife (and doula)if possible. I have not been in this area long enough to source such information, and the options available. As far as I know, its Nickol Bay Hospital (Karratha) and thats it...? Somewhere she definitely doesn't want to go... How could she find out her options? Is there a homebirth midwifery network that extends to the northern part of WA? Or does she need to travel south to Perth...? (Most other family friends is over East) Any feedback or ideas would be greatly appreciated, Many thanks, Kristin Naturopath, Nutritionist, Herbalist Natural Fertility Management Karratha, WA Ph: 08 9185 1982 Hot chart ringt! ones and polyphonics. C lick here -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Term Breech Trial
To all you wise and inspiration women on this list; I'm a C.B.E student hoping to get some feedback on the Term Breech Trial - what are your opinions on the limitations of this trial..? Do you think it should have continued for the full 5 years? Is the fact that these women were 'randomly assigned planned CS or planned VB' contradict the purpose of this trial? Do you think if all of them had the opportunity to choose themselves which type of birth they would have liked, results would have been different? Any feedback would be most welcomed! Cheers, Kristin E-mail just got a whole lot better. New ninemsn Premium. Upgrade now! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] What an inspiration...
Sounds fanastic!!! Any chance of a website? Kristin From: Susan Basser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [ozmidwifery] What an inspiration... Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:22:56 +1000 Hi there My name is Sue Basser and I¹ve been an avid reader of your discussions. Not only am I learning a lot, but I¹m also inspired by your collective commitment to the empowerment of women, as the centre of the birth experience. I feel inspired to share my story and in fact the reason I am on this discussion group. I live in Byron Bay and although I have never had a child myself, I have been a support person to 6 friends 1 in the old Paddington Birth centre, 4 homebirths and 1 home to hospital birth. I love being a support person in birth and I feel privileged to have experienced such sacred and joyous moments. My life¹s work, I guess is broader. I have always been committed to the process of empowerment, as a youth worker, as a community facilitator, as an organisational development consultant, and as a counsellor and healer. More recently I have moved this life long commitment into the area of organising retreats an opportunity for an individual or a group to take time out to connect with self and purpose, and to renew.thus the name of my business, Byron Renewal. I believe that we all have the capacity to know what we need in our lives, to live to our highest. Sometimes, we don¹t make the time or space to remember¹ that, so a retreat can provide that opportunity. Anyway, one day my dear friend, whose 2 births I supported, Jannine Barron (founder of Nature¹s Child), asked me if I would work with her to create a retreat for pregnant women. I felt honored to join with her and especially honored to create a space for women to acknowledge and prepare for the potentially most empowering experience a woman will have giving birth. Drawing on the vast and extraordinary expertise in our North Coast region, we pulled together an amazing specialist team midwife, childbirth educator, pregnancy masseurs, ante natal yoga teacher, belly dance teacher, hypnobirth practitioner, healers, naturopath, preggie photograper, belly painter and caster, oceanic body worker And created a 4 day program of nurturing, pampering, relaxation, inspiration, celebration and empowerment ~ The Byron Pregnancy Retreat. Then in August, we ran our first retreat. Six women came from Sydney (4), Sunshine Coast (1) and local (1). And I have to say, it was the best thing I¹ve ever been a part of. Pregnant women are amazing. The depth that the women were prepared to go, in connecting with their baby and with themselves was amazing. It was a profound experience for me, and I spent most of my time making cups of tea! Some of the things women said afterwards were: ³The retreat has left me with a sense of profound liberation with my pregnancy and given me the strength to do everything I can to ensure a sacred and fulfilling experience for me and my baby. Thank You.² ³ I came here, quite terrified of my birth and I leave feeling fearless and empowered² ³I feel like I¹ve re found the real me at this retreat¹ I was surprised at the level of transformation that took place. One woman said, that had she been told that the retreat was going to do that, she would have thought she didn¹t need it. Then at the celebration circle on the last day, this same woman was in tears as she shared how much she¹d changed within herself. More than anything these women realised that the birth experience is theirs (and their babies of course).and that it belongs to no one else. They acknowledged that although they had been told so many horror stories by family and friends, they could choose to start with the premise that an easy, natural birth is available and is their right. And although anything can happen during the birth, the more informed they are of their choices and the stronger and clearer they are on the inside, the more empowered they will be. Wow. It really was beautiful. The first Byron Pregnancy Retreat was such a success, that we have decided to go ahead and run more. We have the next one planned for October 9 12 and then we have 5 more planned for next year. We want to do some couples retreats as well. I¹m telling you all this, because I want to share what seems to be a magical experience for women who are called to it! And it feels what we are trying to do through the retreat is so inline with what you are all doing out there. If you know someone who might be interested, just call Jannine on 1300 555 632 and we will send out more information. Or email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for reading and thanks again for your inspiration. Love Sue Basser Chat via SMS. Simply send 'CHAT' to 1889918. More info here. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding and constipation
Hi Cheryl, It may be the wheat in the Sao biscuits - go for the other grains; corn, millet, barley etc I'd also advise a probiotic supplement specifically for infants; Natren 'Lifestart' or Metagenics 'Flora Care'. The latter is usually available from naturopathic clinics, and the Natren product is available at most quality health food stores. Good luck! Kind regards, Kristin Kristin Beckedahl Naturopath, Nutritionist, NaturalFertility Management Karratha, WA. From: "Cheryl LHK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding and constipation Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:56:05 +1000 Dear List Does anyone have any ideas why a perfectly healthy 6+ month old baby (fully breastfed - still is) is suddenly getting badly constipated? Since birth she has regularly gone 48-72 hours between full nappies with no concern from her or Mum; starting solids slowly - pureed fruit and veges and chewing on Sao's with sore gums. Went 8 days (bit of a drama by day 6 - very unhappy baby) and was shockingly distressed by day 8. Used water, infant coloxyl, massage etc We are now heading into day 4 - starting to get a bit restless (the baby) again. Cheryl _ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. Click here. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
