[ozmidwifery] Book
Does anyone have this book. I would like to either borrow or buy it ASAP. Thanks, MM Trying Again : A Guide to Pregnancy After Miscarriage, Stillbirth, and Infant Loss (Paperback) by Ann Douglas 2000.
[ozmidwifery] Don't forget your listing in the Nappy Bag Book!!!
Dont forget to include your Midwifery / Doula Business in the Nappy Bag Book for next year its a FREE listing in a nationally distributed book and the deadline is just 20 days away! http://www.nappybag.com.au/freelist.php - I hope we can see lots of Midwives and Doulas listed this year well need it!!! Also on the topic of free listings, if you are a Doula or Birth Attendant, make sure you are listed in the BellyBelly Birth Attendant / Doula Directory too: http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-attendant-locator Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support
RE: [ozmidwifery] homebirth childrens book
whoops its www.chrissybutler.com(no.au) From: "Kristin Beckedahl" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] homebirth childrens bookDate: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 13:05:57 +0800 Just letting those involved in homebirth about a new childrens book about homebirth called "Welcome Home Jimi Jazz", written and illustrated by a HBAC woman in NSW called Chrissy Butler. The pictures are amazing and the story just beautiful, esp the one of the baby crowning !! www.chrissybutler.com.au K-- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] re book launch
Hi all, If any of you would like to come, the official launch of my new book "Sleeping Like a Baby" ( Penguin) is this Saturday. Babies MOST welcome. Feel free to pass this on to anybody who may be interested. See below for details. Pinky www.pinky-mychild.com When? Saturday 8 July 2006 @ 2pm Where? Borders, Chadstone, VIC Shop B16, Chadstone Shopping Centre 1341 Dandenong Road, Chadstone PLEASE RSVP by Thursday 6 July 2006 to Vicky Axiotis (03) 9811 2415 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ozmidwifery] homebirth childrens book
Just letting those involved in homebirth about a new childrens book about homebirth called "Welcome Home Jimi Jazz", written and illustrated by a HBAC woman in NSW called Chrissy Butler. The pictures are amazing and the story just beautiful, esp the one of the baby crowning !! www.chrissybutler.com.au K -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] From the Land of Active Management - The Better Birth Book - Taking the Mystery (and Fear) out of Childbirth
Just a quick note to announce the launch of the first book Ireland to help Irish mums understand that they DO have choices other than Active Management of Labour. The Better Birth Book is a compilation of resources, birth stories and evidence based research on maternity care in Ireland and best practices throughout the world. Available now from The Liffey Press http://www.theliffeypress.com Tracy Donegan http://www.DoulaIreland.com
Re: [ozmidwifery] From the Land of Active Management - The Better Birth Book - Taking the Mystery (and Fear) out of Childbirth
Excellent news, Tracy!!! If it makes you feel any better, Australia had the world's highest rate of instrumental "births" in the world for a while. ; ) J - Original Message - From: Tracy Donegan To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:33 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] From the Land of Active Management - The Better Birth Book - Taking the Mystery (and Fear) out of Childbirth Just a quick note to announce the launch of the first book Ireland to help Irish mums understand that they DO have choices other than Active Management of Labour. The Better Birth Book is a compilation of resources, birth stories and evidence based research on maternity care in Ireland and best practices throughout the world. Available now from The Liffey Press http://www.theliffeypress.com Tracy Donegan http://www.DoulaIreland.com
Re: [ozmidwifery] Sarah Buckley's book: Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering now!
yes JO - its fabulous!!pinky - Original Message - From: jo To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Cc: 'sarahjbuckley' Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Sarah Buckley's book: Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering now! Hi all, I received a copy of Sarahs book 2 weeks ago in the post to review for Birthings magazine and although I have not yet read it from cover to cover I have referred to it at least 5 times in the last 2 weeks both for my work as a CBE and as a doula, as well as a mother of 4 children. Sarah writes so beautifully in very easy to understand laywomans terms and everything that we innately know about birth and mothering she has backed up with scientific evidence. Id highly recommend a copy for any midwives, doulas, CBEs, OBs and mothers book shelf its a gem! Cheers Jo From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Joanne Steve FisherSent: Sunday, 4 December 2005 10:08 AMTo: OzmidwiferySubject: [ozmidwifery] Sarah Buckley's book: Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering now! Subject: Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering now!Dear friendsI am excited to tell you that my book, Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering: The wisdom and science of gentle choices in pregnancy, birth, and parenting is now in my webshop and available for purchase at http://www.sarahjbuckley.com/shop/I am thrilled with the production of Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering. The lush cover (artwork by Durga Bernhard) reflects the beauty and gentleness of birth and mothering, and the cover colours are vibrant with vegetable-based inks. Inside, the layout and design are pleasing, and the 100% recycled paper gives the book a lovely feelI am also getting wonderful feedback about the content, and it is so good to have all my best articles in one place. All of those mothers, grandmothers, professional, parents who have emailed me with questions about Lotus birth, homebirth, cord clamping after cesarean, cord blood banking, ecstatic birth, co-sleeping, breastfeeding (and much more) can now find the answers! There are also articles about the safety of ultrasound and epidurals (a longer version of the article in the current Mothering), breech birth, caesareans, prenatal testing for Down syndrome, yoga and motherhood, raising babies without nappies/diapers and lots of my own stories.You can read Ina May Gaskins words of wisdom in the foreword I was privileged to chair a panel at the recent APPPAH conference in San Diego on care during labour, which included Ina May (upcoming blog!). Inas foreword is a great rave about the spread of birth fright vs the birth-giving capacities of our bodies.You can also read what my reviewers have to say about Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering as you scroll down athttp://www.sarahjbuckley.com/html/gentle-birth-gentle-mothering.htm My latest reviewer is Deepak Chopra, who says:Sarah Buckley creatively integrates mind/body wisdom with the latest scientific research to provide women with the essential tools they need to make conscious choices throughout their pregnancy and birth.To celebrate my opening and thanks to the generosity of the lovely Carla Hartley of Ancient Art Midwifery I have some small gifts for my first 50 buyers among you. While over in the US last month, Carla gave me some samples of the badges, wristbands, transfers and magnets that she produces to make birth a talking point in public, as part of her Trust Birth campaign (www.trustbirth.com). Some of the slogans are listed at the bottom and there are also groovy purple Trust Birth wrist bands.You will need to mention this offer under special instructions at the checkout, and you can also give your preferences.Please take a wander around at my shop. You can pay by credit card via paypal or by fax or mail order. I also have copies of the book Lotus birth and a favourite New Zealand book, the Paper Midwife.Dont forget to mention the Trust Birth bonuses when you check out.Please support my work by passing this email on to interested friends and contacts, thanks so much! (Can someone let the ozmidwifery elist know also?)Blessings to you allSarah Trust Birth- slogans on badges and magnets, about 1 inch diameterMore babies prefer homebirthWomen do not need to be rescued from birthBirth truth=birth trustTrust birth - your baby doesBirth belongs to womenBabies ? midwivesOwn your birthStop the madness - say no to surgical birthStop the spread of birthfrightBirth is safe, interference is riskyMore babies prefer homebirthAsk me about homebirthBirth questions answered herePlusTrust Birth (purple wristband)More babies prefer homebirth
[ozmidwifery] Sarah Buckley's book: Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering now!
Subject: Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering now! Dear friends I am excited to tell you that my book, Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering: The wisdom and science of gentle choices in pregnancy, birth, and parenting is now in my webshop and available for purchase at http://www.sarahjbuckley.com/shop/ I am thrilled with the production of Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering. The lush cover (artwork by Durga Bernhard) reflects the beauty and gentleness of birth and mothering, and the cover colours are vibrant with vegetable-based inks. Inside, the layout and design are pleasing, and the 100% recycled paper gives the book a lovely feel I am also getting wonderful feedback about the content, and it is so good to have all my best articles in one place. All of those mothers, grandmothers, professional, parents who have emailed me with questions about Lotus birth, homebirth, cord clamping after cesarean, cord blood banking, ecstatic birth, co-sleeping, breastfeeding (and much more) can now find the answers! There are also articles about the safety of ultrasound and epidurals (a longer version of the article in the current Mothering), breech birth, caesareans, prenatal testing for Down syndrome, yoga and motherhood, raising babies without nappies/diapers and lots of my own stories. You can read Ina May Gaskins words of wisdom in the foreword I was privileged to chair a panel at the recent APPPAH conference in San Diego on care during labour, which included Ina May (upcoming blog!). Inas foreword is a great rave about the spread of birth fright vs the birth-giving capacities of our bodies. You can also read what my reviewers have to say about Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering as you scroll down at http://www.sarahjbuckley.com/html/gentle-birth-gentle-mothering.htm My latest reviewer is Deepak Chopra, who says: Sarah Buckley creatively integrates mind/body wisdom with the latest scientific research to provide women with the essential tools they need to make conscious choices throughout their pregnancy and birth. To celebrate my opening and thanks to the generosity of the lovely Carla Hartley of Ancient Art Midwifery I have some small gifts for my first 50 buyers among you. While over in the US last month, Carla gave me some samples of the badges, wristbands, transfers and magnets that she produces to make birth a talking point in public, as part of her Trust Birth campaign (www.trustbirth.com). Some of the slogans are listed at the bottom and there are also groovy purple Trust Birth wrist bands. You will need to mention this offer under special instructions at the checkout, and you can also give your preferences. Please take a wander around at my shop. You can pay by credit card via paypal or by fax or mail order. I also have copies of the book Lotus birth and a favourite New Zealand book, the Paper Midwife. Dont forget to mention the Trust Birth bonuses when you check out. Please support my work by passing this email on to interested friends and contacts, thanks so much! (Can someone let the ozmidwifery elist know also?) Blessings to you all Sarah Trust Birth- slogans on badges and magnets, about 1 inch diameter More babies prefer homebirth Women do not need to be rescued from birth Birth truth=birth trust Trust birth - your baby does Birth belongs to women Babies ? midwives Own your birth Stop the madness - say no to surgical birth Stop the spread of birthfright Birth is safe, interference is risky More babies prefer homebirth Ask me about homebirth Birth questions answered here Plus Trust Birth (purple wristband) More babies prefer homebirth (transfer/temporary tattoo) Sarah J Buckley GP/family physician, mother, author of Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering: The wisdom and science of gentle choices in pregnancy, birth, and parenting www.sarahjbuckley.com 245 Sugars Rd Anstead, Qld 4070 Australia Ph 61 7 3202 9052
RE: [ozmidwifery] Sarah Buckley's book: Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering now!
Hi all, I received a copy of Sarahs book 2 weeks ago in the post to review for Birthings magazine and although I have not yet read it from cover to cover I have referred to it at least 5 times in the last 2 weeks both for my work as a CBE and as a doula, as well as a mother of 4 children. Sarah writes so beautifully in very easy to understand laywomans terms and everything that we innately know about birth and mothering she has backed up with scientific evidence. Id highly recommend a copy for any midwives, doulas, CBEs, OBs and mothers book shelf its a gem! Cheers Jo From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Joanne Steve Fisher Sent: Sunday, 4 December 2005 10:08 AM To: Ozmidwifery Subject: [ozmidwifery] Sarah Buckley's book: Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering now! Subject: Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering now! Dear friends I am excited to tell you that my book, Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering: The wisdom and science of gentle choices in pregnancy, birth, and parenting is now in my webshop and available for purchase at http://www.sarahjbuckley.com/shop/ I am thrilled with the production of Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering. The lush cover (artwork by Durga Bernhard) reflects the beauty and gentleness of birth and mothering, and the cover colours are vibrant with vegetable-based inks. Inside, the layout and design are pleasing, and the 100% recycled paper gives the book a lovely feel I am also getting wonderful feedback about the content, and it is so good to have all my best articles in one place. All of those mothers, grandmothers, professional, parents who have emailed me with questions about Lotus birth, homebirth, cord clamping after cesarean, cord blood banking, ecstatic birth, co-sleeping, breastfeeding (and much more) can now find the answers! There are also articles about the safety of ultrasound and epidurals (a longer version of the article in the current Mothering), breech birth, caesareans, prenatal testing for Down syndrome, yoga and motherhood, raising babies without nappies/diapers and lots of my own stories. You can read Ina May Gaskins words of wisdom in the foreword I was privileged to chair a panel at the recent APPPAH conference in San Diego on care during labour, which included Ina May (upcoming blog!). Inas foreword is a great rave about the spread of birth fright vs the birth-giving capacities of our bodies. You can also read what my reviewers have to say about Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering as you scroll down at http://www.sarahjbuckley.com/html/gentle-birth-gentle-mothering.htm My latest reviewer is Deepak Chopra, who says: Sarah Buckley creatively integrates mind/body wisdom with the latest scientific research to provide women with the essential tools they need to make conscious choices throughout their pregnancy and birth. To celebrate my opening and thanks to the generosity of the lovely Carla Hartley of Ancient Art Midwifery I have some small gifts for my first 50 buyers among you. While over in the US last month, Carla gave me some samples of the badges, wristbands, transfers and magnets that she produces to make birth a talking point in public, as part of her Trust Birth campaign (www.trustbirth.com). Some of the slogans are listed at the bottom and there are also groovy purple Trust Birth wrist bands. You will need to mention this offer under special instructions at the checkout, and you can also give your preferences. Please take a wander around at my shop. You can pay by credit card via paypal or by fax or mail order. I also have copies of the book Lotus birth and a favourite New Zealand book, the Paper Midwife. Dont forget to mention the Trust Birth bonuses when you check out. Please support my work by passing this email on to interested friends and contacts, thanks so much! (Can someone let the ozmidwifery elist know also?) Blessings to you all Sarah Trust Birth- slogans on badges and magnets, about 1 inch diameter More babies prefer homebirth Women do not need to be rescued from birth Birth truth=birth trust Trust birth - your baby does Birth belongs to women Babies ? midwives Own your birth Stop the madness - say no to surgical birth Stop the spread of birthfright Birth is safe, interference is risky More babies prefer homebirth Ask me about homebirth Birth questions answered here Plus Trust Birth (purple wristband) More babies prefer homebirth (transfer/temporary tattoo) Sarah J Buckley GP/family physician, mother, author of Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering: The wisdom and science of gentle choices in pregnancy, birth, and parenting www.sarahjbuckley.com 245 Sugars Rd Anstead, Qld 4070 Australia Ph 61 7 3202 9052
[ozmidwifery] Fw: Sarah Buckley's book: Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering now!
No one else has sent it so I will. It's a lovely book, I've already read it. : ) From: "sarahjbuckley" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 1 December 2005 10:07:22 PMSubject: Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering now!Dear friendsI am excited to tell you that my book, Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering: The wisdom and science of gentle choices in pregnancy, birth, and parenting is now in my webshop and available for purchase at http://www.sarahjbuckley.com/shop/I am thrilled with the production of Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering. The lush cover (artwork by Durga Bernhard) reflects the beauty and gentleness of birth and mothering, and the cover colours are vibrant with vegetable-based inks. Inside, the layout and design are pleasing, and the 100% recycled paper gives the book a lovely feelI am also getting wonderful feedback about the content, and it is so good to have all my best articles in one place. All of those mothers, grandmothers, professional, parents who have emailed me with questions about Lotus birth, homebirth, cord clamping after cesarean, cord blood banking, ecstatic birth, co-sleeping, breastfeeding (and much more) can now find the answers! There are also articles about the safety of ultrasound and epidurals (a longer version of the article in the current Mothering), breech birth, caesareans, prenatal testing for Down syndrome, yoga and motherhood, raising babies without nappies/diapers and lots of my own stories.You can read Ina May Gaskin’s words of wisdom in the foreword – I was privileged to chair a panel at the recent APPPAH conference in San Diego on care during labour, which included Ina May (upcoming blog!). Ina’s foreword is a great rave about the spread of birth fright vs the birth-giving capacities of our bodies.You can also read what my reviewers have to say about Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering as you scroll down athttp://www.sarahjbuckley.com/html/gentle-birth-gentle-mothering.htm My latest reviewer is Deepak Chopra, who says:Sarah Buckley creatively integrates mind/body wisdom with the latest scientific research to provide women with the essential tools they need to make conscious choices throughout their pregnancy and birth.To celebrate my opening – and thanks to the generosity of the lovely Carla Hartley of Ancient Art Midwifery – I have some small gifts for my first 50 buyers among you. While over in the US last month, Carla gave me some samples of the badges, wristbands, transfers and magnets that she produces to make birth a talking point in public, as part of her Trust Birth campaign (www.trustbirth.com). Some of the slogans are listed at the bottom and there are also groovy purple Trust Birth wrist bands.You will need to mention this offer under special instructions at the checkout, and you can also give your preferences.Please take a wander around at my shop. You can pay by credit card via paypal or by fax or mail order. I also have copies of the book Lotus birth and a favourite New Zealand book, the Paper Midwife.Don’t forget to mention the Trust Birth bonuses when you check out.Please support my work by passing this email on to interested friends and contacts, thanks so much! (Can someone let the ozmidwifery elist know also?)Blessings to you allSarahPS I’ve emailed almost everyone on my list, you probably won’t get another like this but please let me know if you prefer to not get emails about my website/book. Thanks!Trust Birth- slogans on badges and magnets, about 1 inch diameterMore babies prefer homebirthWomen do not need to be rescued from birthBirth truth=birth trustTrust birth- your baby doesBirth belongs to womenBabies ? midwivesOwn your birthStop the madness- say no to surgical birthStop the spread of birthfrightBirth is safe, interference is riskyMore babies prefer homebirthAsk me about homebirthBirth questions answered herePlusTrust Birth (purple wristband)More babies prefer homebirth (transfer/temporary tattoo)Sarah J BuckleyGP/family physician, mother, author ofGentle Birth, Gentle Mothering: The wisdom and science of gentle choices in pregnancy, birth, and parentingwww.sarahjbuckley.com245 Sugars RdAnstead, Qld 4070AustraliaPh 61 7 3202 9052Bruce TeakleMaternity Coalition Qld Branch President11 Lindsay Rd, Mt Glorious 452007 3289 02310438 736 740
Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Sarah Buckley's book: Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering now!
Janet, thanks for posting this. I concur, it's really beautifully done and chock full of good info and new ideas. I highly recommend it. Gloria in Canada Janet Fraser wrote: No one else has sent it so I will. It's a lovely book, I've already read it. : ) From: "sarahjbuckley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1 December 2005 10:07:22 PM Subject: Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering now! Dear friends I am excited to tell you that my book, Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering: The wisdom and science of gentle choices in pregnancy, birth, and parenting is now in my webshop and available for purchase at http://www.sarahjbuckley.com/shop/ I am thrilled with the production of Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering. The lush cover (artwork by Durga Bernhard) reflects the beauty and gentleness of birth and mothering, and the cover colours are vibrant with vegetable-based inks. Inside, the layout and design are pleasing, and the 100% recycled paper gives the book a lovely feel I am also getting wonderful feedback about the content, and it is so good to have all my best articles in one place. All of those mothers, grandmothers, professional, parents who have emailed me with questions about Lotus birth, homebirth, cord clamping after cesarean, cord blood banking, ecstatic birth, co-sleeping, breastfeeding (and much more) can now find the answers! There are also articles about the safety of ultrasound and epidurals (a longer version of the article in the current Mothering), breech birth, caesareans, prenatal testing for Down syndrome, yoga and motherhood, raising babies without nappies/diapers and lots of my own stories. You can read Ina May Gaskin’s words of wisdom in the foreword – I was privileged to chair a panel at the recent APPPAH conference in San Diego on care during labour, which included Ina May (upcoming blog!). Ina’s foreword is a great rave about the spread of birth fright vs the birth-giving capacities of our bodies. You can also read what my reviewers have to say about Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering as you scroll down at http://www.sarahjbuckley.com/html/gentle-birth-gentle-mothering.htm My latest reviewer is Deepak Chopra, who says:
[ozmidwifery] Ina May's new book
Hi everyone, Has anyone else read Ina May's new book? (Ina May Gaskin's guide to childbirth) It is just brilliant very easy to read and is actually as much for pregnant women as for midwives.The outcomes of "The Farm" are included at the end which just blow you away - all achieved with women who have faith in their bodies, andmidwifery care!And the women who go there are not necessarily 'low risk' ie. breeches, twins, grandmulties etc. Don't mean to rave butit is excellent. Cheers Michelle Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Book reviewers?
Andrea I am interested as always and I have my colleague Helen Gray looking over my shoulder saying she is keen Helen Gray RMB 380 Moama, 2731 Thanks Andrea Quanchi On Friday, December 10, 2004, at 04:50 , Andrea Robertson wrote: Hi Listers, Several years ago I put out a request for volunteer book reviewers. Twice each year we send out the new titles we have received to appropriate members of our reviewers panel, who then diligently read the book (within a few weeks)and send us back a review. These are then posted on the Birth International web site, and are used by others as a guide to selection when buying books. In return for this community service, the reviewer gets to keep the book. I try to link up titles with people whom I think might have an interest in the subject matter or for whom the book might be useful The team we have now (thanks guys - you know who you are!) have dome a great job, but perhaps it is time to expand our list and add some new people to the panel. If this is a task that has appeal, please email me off list. I'll send you a simple form to complete so that I know the kinds of books that are of interest to you. Look forward to hearing from you! Andrea Robertson - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Book reviewers?
Hi Listers, Several years ago I put out a request for volunteer book reviewers. Twice each year we send out the new titles we have received to appropriate members of our reviewers panel, who then diligently read the book (within a few weeks)and send us back a review. These are then posted on the Birth International web site, and are used by others as a guide to selection when buying books. In return for this community service, the reviewer gets to keep the book. I try to link up titles with people whom I think might have an interest in the subject matter or for whom the book might be useful The team we have now (thanks guys - you know who you are!) have dome a great job, but perhaps it is time to expand our list and add some new people to the panel. If this is a task that has appeal, please email me off list. I'll send you a simple form to complete so that I know the kinds of books that are of interest to you. Look forward to hearing from you! Andrea Robertson - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Book poster and order forms
Dear Pinky, I run a support group from a Parenting Library in the Northern suburbs of Perth. By the way It was my 5 month baby boy who wasusing you as a foot restas he breastfed at the Conference on Saturday. Well he was 58cm at birth! Anyway the Library has"parenting by heart" but I don't think they have the "100 ways to calm crying", at the very least I could ensure they have this book, and because I see new parents it would be great to have some order forms handy. I and others really enjoyed yourtalk at the conference. We cannot hear the message about trusting our nuturing instincts enough. Love Rochelle Beckman Harry Send to: 2 Kensal Green Way Kingsley WA 6026 [EMAIL PROTECTED] p.s I thought the conference was fabulous.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Book poster and order forms
I agree -I had a great time at the conference - and although tired today I feel really energised -there are some great midwives out there! Will send fliers to you and Julie, Pinky www.pinky-mychild.com - Original Message - From: Tim Rochelle To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 10:49 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Book poster and order forms Dear Pinky, I run a support group from a Parenting Library in the Northern suburbs of Perth. By the way It was my 5 month baby boy who wasusing you as a foot restas he breastfed at the Conference on Saturday. Well he was 58cm at birth! Anyway the Library has"parenting by heart" but I don't think they have the "100 ways to calm crying", at the very least I could ensure they have this book, and because I see new parents it would be great to have some order forms handy. I and others really enjoyed yourtalk at the conference. We cannot hear the message about trusting our nuturing instincts enough. Love Rochelle Beckman Harry Send to: 2 Kensal Green Way Kingsley WA 6026 [EMAIL PROTECTED] p.s I thought the conference was fabulous.
[ozmidwifery] 'Puberty Girl' book launched today - a fabulous gift idea for your 'tweenage' girls!
Hello wonderful woman! I am very thrilled and excited to tell you about 'Puberty Girl' - the new book by my friend and colleague Shushann Movsessian which is being launched today by Allen Unwin. I've seen an advance copy and I'm sure the girls are gonna love it! Shushann has used her very groovy style, her honest approach and 12 years experience of working with pubescent girls inputting together a really useful reference book that should be on every girl's book shelf or beside her bed! For more details see: http://www.allenandunwin.com/puberty/homepage.htm and think about it for your Christmas shopping list And another reminder about our next 'Journey into Womanhood' weekend for Mums and their 9-12 year old daughters - November 26-28 Randwick. Here's the feedback from our last weekend... We all (seventeen of us) had a fabulous, enriching and enlightening weekend at our inaugural mother-daughter puberty weekend in Randwick. Here's some of the wonderfulfeedback that Alexandra Pope, Shushann Movsessian and I received from the last weekend held Jul 30 - 1 Aug: 'Congratulations on your first Journey into Womanhood workshop. Zoe and I enjoyed the experience very much, particularly the Body Diagram session for the children, Alexandra's enlightening discussion with the mothers and, of course, the special honouringcelebration! It was a wonderful group of mothers and daughters who were brought together for a fun, learning experience by professional leaders. We were glad we took the option of 'living in' as this made it a true mother and daughter weekend. Iwould recommend this to future participants. I feel, with the knowledge gained from the weekend workshop, my daughter is better equipped to deal with the issues of puberty andher Journey into Womanhood. Thank you for providing this wonderful experience.' Jennifer, mother of Zoe 11 'Journeyinto Womanhood weekend was a wonderful learning experience. Itis something very special that my daughters and I have sharedand will always reflect on. My daughters are now less concerned about puberty and accept thephysical changes that are happening tothem. Through the knowledge we have all gained I feel we are closer.' Tanya, mother of twin 11 year olds, Morgan and Lauren 'Tess and I each really valued our special mother-daughter bonding time. In sharing this weekend together learning about the process of being and becoming a woman I feel has already set us on a path of understanding. This weekend also started Tess towards a new maturity and her self confidence has grown in a very positive way. She has taken up debating and has a good role in the school play. She has become an even better role model at school in many ways. Anyway love and thanks to you all for putting on such a wonderful event. Please let us know when Shushann's book 'Puberty Girl' will be published. We are enjoying using the new tools and strategies learned during the weekend (Alex 'great books).' Catherine, mother of Tess 11 Soplanning is in full swing forour next weekend Fri 26 - Sun 28 Nov 2004, also to be held at The Centre in Randwick - don't miss this one! Please email me or call on (02) 9130 7283 for further details and a registration form. Early bird rate of $275 pp. closes 15 Nov, thereafter $320 pp. (includes lunches and morning/afternoon teas). Free Info night 'Celebrating Our Changing Girls' Tues 9 Nov 2004 at Moore Park or call/email for our Free Report 'Talking to Your Daughter about Puberty'. We hope to meet you and your daughter there - and please forward this email on to any friends who may be interested... Wishing you many blessings andpeaceful parenting, Maree Lipschitz BSc(Hons), Grad Dip Lib Sc, Inst. of Group Leaders(Assoc),Mother of Emily (8) Elliot (4) Motherhood Mysteries11 Oakley Road Bondi NSW 2026Ph/Fx: (02) 9130 7283 Mob: 0417 428 007Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.motherhoodmysteries.com.au Celebrate Your Changing Woman...
[ozmidwifery] Petition to ban Ezzo(Babywise) book
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Petition to ban Ezzo(Babywise) book
I am all for action against this program but does anyone know what exactly will be done with this petition? For instance, will it be circulated to booksellers? Does censorship extend to actually banning the import/ sales of books? I am shocked and frustrated that such information is widely available in our local big chain bookstores - ie AR andDymocks. And even more frustrated that in many cases my own books which offer a gentle perspective - and are local - are not there to offer an alternative. I guess we all need to ask/ complain at our local bookshops - and place orders for books we would like to be more available - ie Sheila Kitzionger instead of What to Expect - we dont need to buy - we could have got the book from another source while we were waiting for our order :) Pinky www.pinky-mychild.com - Original Message - From: A Menna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:49 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Petition to ban Ezzo(Babywise) book Have you all seen this? http://www.petitiononline.com/banezzo/petition.html -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Petition to ban Ezzo(Babywise) book
I am all for action against this program but does anyone know what exactly will be done with this petition? For instance, will it be circulated to booksellers? Does censorship extend to actually banning the import/ sales of books? Hi, I started the petition as part of a larger effort to have something done about this terrible book. I contacted DOCS, who gave me a number for another place and then they gave me the number for the Commissioner for Children and Young People. I expressed my concerns and they asked that I send it in writing. I then decided, that instead of just a letter, I would put together an information pack. When it is ready, this is the list so far, of who I'll send it to. The Commissioner, DOCS, Koorong Bookshops and all major bookstores, the Australian Censorship Board. I believe that the information in his books should be illegal. It advocates physical and emotional abuse of very young babies. I don't know if it will be banned, but hopefully at the very least, the information packs will make people sit up and take notice. Ezzo has been sued because of the results of his program. I honestly can't understand why he can still publish his books. The scariest thing is that now the books are on the shelves in most the major bookstores in Australia and people have no idea about them. I have read most of book 1, with alot of swearing falling out of my mouth after nearly each sentence, but gee he is convincing. I can only imagine the impact his bullshit books are having on new parents. Someone wrote to me concerned about freedom of speech, well lots of people have, and I'm not sure what I feel about that. I am pretty sure that child pornography is banned, so I don't see why a book advocating child abuse shouldn't be banned. For all the info you'll ever need check out www.ezzo.info be ready to cry though, it's heartbreaking. Love Abby -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Petition to ban Ezzo(Babywise) book
Hi Abby, Thanks for filling us in. I have read Ezzos book 1 and flicked through the others -I begrudged paying - but need to know the enemy. I agree - in my opinion it is abuse and it is convincing. I have personally come across mothers who have had awful experiences - my email box attracts lots of letters from desperate parents. I am also in touch with professionals deeply concerned about Babywise. Please be very careful- I would suggest taking take legal advice about the content of your petition. Ezzo is a very wealthy and powerful bully who has tried to sue Australians (as well as others) who get in his way - ie lactation consultants and Sydney psychologist Robin Griille - Robin wrote a letter about the regime to the Australian association of Infant Mental Health newsletter and this was reprinted in an LC newsletter. I have cced this email to Robin. He also has very devout followers here who are certain to inform him about this petition - I was given hell by a couple at an antenatal class I spoke at -I hadnt mentioned Ezzo until they attacked me for talking about cue feeding as opposed to schedule feeding . They held him up as Guru example - I held my own and needed to but it turned out the mother to be was a doctor at the hospital I was talking at!!! As my daughter says -my mouth is so big, nobody will ever die wondering what I think of them! You might wonder how many vulnerable parents there are - Ezzo has sold over 4 million of his books worldwide - he is very convincing and very very clever!! Pinky - Original Message - From: Abby and Toby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Petition to ban Ezzo(Babywise) book I am all for action against this program but does anyone know what exactly will be done with this petition? For instance, will it be circulated to booksellers? Does censorship extend to actually banning the import/ sales of books? Hi, I started the petition as part of a larger effort to have something done about this terrible book. I contacted DOCS, who gave me a number for another place and then they gave me the number for the Commissioner for Children and Young People. I expressed my concerns and they asked that I send it in writing. I then decided, that instead of just a letter, I would put together an information pack. When it is ready, this is the list so far, of who I'll send it to. The Commissioner, DOCS, Koorong Bookshops and all major bookstores, the Australian Censorship Board. I believe that the information in his books should be illegal. It advocates physical and emotional abuse of very young babies. I don't know if it will be banned, but hopefully at the very least, the information packs will make people sit up and take notice. Ezzo has been sued because of the results of his program. I honestly can't understand why he can still publish his books. The scariest thing is that now the books are on the shelves in most the major bookstores in Australia and people have no idea about them. I have read most of book 1, with alot of swearing falling out of my mouth after nearly each sentence, but gee he is convincing. I can only imagine the impact his bullshit books are having on new parents. Someone wrote to me concerned about freedom of speech, well lots of people have, and I'm not sure what I feel about that. I am pretty sure that child pornography is banned, so I don't see why a book advocating child abuse shouldn't be banned. For all the info you'll ever need check out www.ezzo.info be ready to cry though, it's heartbreaking. Love Abby -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Petition to ban Ezzo(Babywise) book
After giving birth to my fourth child seven months ago I was tired (of course!) but knew the night feeds wouldn'tlast forever. As a freelance journalist one of my essential things to do is read the Weekend Australian, as they say reading other peoples work improves your own writing. So when I came across an article in the liftout magazine regarding "Babywhisperer" (I can't remember the exact name of the title) I thought 'hey I'll kill two birds with one stone". I read the article with intrigue. The journalist hada baby herself who wouldn't sleep. After trying techniques in this "whisperer" book (that echo those of ezzo's) she had a wonderful bub and her fatigue disappeared. Now remember I've had four babies so you'd think my instincts would now better, however, weariness does weird things to your brain. I thought I'd give the techniques of strict scheduling a go. In retrospect I can say thank goodness that very n! ight mybaby slept through on her own will and has since. The "whisperer" was forgotten. How can Gary Ezzo be getting away with this? Kylie From: "Pinky McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Petition to ban Ezzo(Babywise) book Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 17:24:12 +1000 I am all for action against this program but does anyone know what exactly will be done with this petition?For instance, will it be circulated to booksellers? Does censorship extend to actually "banning" the import/ sales of books? I am shocked and frustrated that such information is widely available in our local big chain bookstores - ie AR andDymocks. And even more frustrated that in many cases my own books which offer a gentle perspective - and are local - are not there to offer an alternative. I guess we all need to ask/ complain at our local bookshops - and place orders for books we would like to be more available - ie Sheila Kitzionger instead of What to Expect - we dont need to buy - we could have got the book from another source while we were waiting for our order :) Pinky www.pinky-mychild.com - Original Message - From: "A Menna" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:49 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Petition to ban Ezzo(Babywise) book Have you all seen this? http://www.petitiononline.com/banezzo/petition.html -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Find love today with ninemsn personals. Click here -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Petition to ban Ezzo(Babywise) book
- Original Message - From: Kylie Carberry To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Petition to ban Ezzo(Babywise) book After giving birth to my fourth child seven months ago I was tired (of course!) but knew the night feeds wouldn'tlast forever. As a freelance journalist one of my essential things to do is read the Weekend Australian, as they say reading other peoples work improves your own writing. So when I came across an article in the liftout magazine regarding "Babywhisperer" (I can't remember the exact name of the title) I thought 'hey I'll kill two birds with one stone". I read the article with intrigue. The journalist hada baby herself who wouldn't sleep. After trying techniques in this "whisperer" book (that echo those of ezzo's) she had a wonderful bub and her fatigue disappeared. Now remember I've had four babies so you'd think my instincts would now better, however, weariness does weird things to your brain. I thought I'd give the techniques of strict scheduling a go. In retrospect I can say thank goodness that very n! ight mybaby slept through on her own will and has since. The "whisperer" was forgotten. How can Gary Ezzo be getting away with this? Kylie From: "Pinky McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Petition to ban Ezzo(Babywise) book Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 17:24:12 +1000 I am all for action against this program but does anyone know what exactly will be done with this petition?For instance, will it be circulated to booksellers? Does censorship extend to actually "banning" the import/ sales of books? I am shocked and frustrated that such information is widely available in our local big chain bookstores - ie AR andDymocks. And even more frustrated that in many cases my own books which offer a gentle perspective - and are local - are not there to offer an alternative. I guess we all need to ask/ complain at our local bookshops - and place orders for books we would like to be more available - ie Sheila Kitzionger instead of What to Expect - we dont need to buy - we could have got the book from another source while we were waiting for our order :) Pinky www.pinky-mychild.com - Original Message - From: "A Menna" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:49 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Petition to ban Ezzo(Babywise) book Have you all seen this? http://www.petitiononline.com/banezzo/petition.html -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Find love today with ninemsn personals. Click here -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Petition to ban Ezzo(Babywise) book
Basically he hasn't Kylie. Ibecame aware of his work in the USA in 1996. I was living in California at the time. He and his wife were members (maybe even pastors)of a fundamentalist christian church (I cannot correctly remember which exact group)somewhere in the USA most probably California. His impetus seems to arise from a real backlash to liberal parenting methods stemming supposedly from demand feeding. Parents who fear "losing control of their children". So, I think perhaps rather innocently, a lot of well intentioned folks embraced his ideas. However, it soon became apparent that the numbers of babies with "failure to thrive", child neglect and abuseetc. as listed well by Pinky increased. The local community papers in the San Francisico Bay Area were full of stories cautioning against his practices, most parenting groups were up in arms. This public censure can happen in the USA because the libel and defamation laws are quite different than in Australia. I am not a lawyer so I cannot articulate exactly how they are different, but do get advice and be careful. In any case it is my belief that his bookhas not only been discredited by the American Pediatrics Association but his church has also dropped their affiliation. This has not stopped him spreading his message around the world again to the same group of concerned conservative parents and those thoroughly exhausted by parenting. Because of the amount of negative feedback by really well respected and conservative and religious groups in the USA you would think this would have caused the man and his wife to pause and think. That they keep spreading their message can only mean they are determined to exploit the market of quietly desperate parents. All that being said, being a true liberal (very small l, doesn't that date me)myself, I cannot support banning the book. Only 'cause I don't support book banning. marilyn - Original Message - From: Kylie Carberry To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Petition to ban Ezzo(Babywise) book After giving birth to my fourth child seven months ago I was tired (of course!) but knew the night feeds wouldn'tlast forever. As a freelance journalist one of my essential things to do is read the Weekend Australian, as they say reading other peoples work improves your own writing. So when I came across an article in the liftout magazine regarding "Babywhisperer" (I can't remember the exact name of the title) I thought 'hey I'll kill two birds with one stone". I read the article with intrigue. The journalist hada baby herself who wouldn't sleep. After trying techniques in this "whisperer" book (that echo those of ezzo's) she had a wonderful bub and her fatigue disappeared. Now remember I've had four babies so you'd think my instincts would now better, however, weariness does weird things to your brain. I thought I'd give the techniques of strict scheduling a go. In retrospect I can say thank goodness that very n! ight mybaby slept through on her own will and has since. The "whisperer" was forgotten. How can Gary Ezzo be getting away with this? Kylie From: "Pinky McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Petition to ban Ezzo(Babywise) book Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 17:24:12 +1000 I am all for action against this program but does anyone know what exactly will be done with this petition?For instance, will it be circulated to booksellers? Does censorship extend to actually "banning" the import/ sales of books? I am shocked and frustrated that such information is widely available in our local big chain bookstores - ie AR andDymocks. And even more frustrated that in many cases my own books which offer a gentle perspective - and are local - are not there to offer an alternative. I guess we all need to ask/ complain at our local bookshops - and place orders for books we would like to be more available - ie Sheila Kitzionger instead of What to Expect - we dont need to buy - we could have got the book from another source while we were waiting for our order :) Pinky www.pinky-mychild.com - Original Message - From: "A Menna" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:49 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Petition to ban Ezzo(Babywise) book Have you all seen this? http://www.petitiononline.com/banezzo/petition.html -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to sub
Re: [ozmidwifery] Book title
Thanks, I will wait patiently, MM -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Book title
Hi Andrea Excuse me if this seems a silly question, but what is the web address to add names to the mailing list? Tania - Original Message - From: Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Book title Hi, Just to let you know that this book will not be available in Australia until mid September, according to Elsevier. I know that extracts of it have appeared in The Practising Midwife, but it takes some months for English titles to be shipped here ready for sale. We will have it on our web site as soon as stock is on hand. You'll also notice that it is not included in the new catalogue, which those of you on our mailing list will receive in about 10 days. Our policy is to not include anything on our web site or our catalogue until we actually are holding a copy in our hands. We have been caught a number of times in the past by publishers who promise titles and then fail to deliver, leaving us with heaps of back orders from customers wanting the book. If it is available, we will have it on our list if it is not there, then it is probably not yet in the country. If you want to be notified personally when the book comes in, add your name to our email list, via the web site, and you'll get our regular bulletins. Regards, Andrea - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Mary Murphy To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]list Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 6:58 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Book title Hi, I wish to buy a book called Normal Childbirth: evidence debate Ed. Soo Downe. Publisher: Churchill-Livingstone. Has anyone read it or know where I can buy it? thanks, MM - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Book title
Hi Tania, Here it is - we issue a Bulletin every month, more often ifsomething exciting to tell everyone about. http://www.birthinternational.com/bulletin/index.html Regards, Andrea At 06:58 PM 24/07/2004, you wrote: Hi Andrea Excuse me if this seems a silly question, but what is the web address to add names to the mailing list? Tania - Original Message - From: Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Book title Hi, Just to let you know that this book will not be available in Australia until mid September, according to Elsevier. I know that extracts of it have appeared in The Practising Midwife, but it takes some months for English titles to be shipped here ready for sale. We will have it on our web site as soon as stock is on hand. You'll also notice that it is not included in the new catalogue, which those of you on our mailing list will receive in about 10 days. Our policy is to not include anything on our web site or our catalogue until we actually are holding a copy in our hands. We have been caught a number of times in the past by publishers who promise titles and then fail to deliver, leaving us with heaps of back orders from customers wanting the book. If it is available, we will have it on our list if it is not there, then it is probably not yet in the country. If you want to be notified personally when the book comes in, add your name to our email list, via the web site, and you'll get our regular bulletins. Regards, Andrea - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Book title
Hi, Just to let you know that this book will not be available in Australia until mid September, according to Elsevier. I know that extracts of it have appeared in The Practising Midwife, but it takes some months for English titles to be shipped here ready for sale. We will have it on our web site as soon as stock is on hand. You'll also notice that it is not included in the new catalogue, which those of you on our mailing list will receive in about 10 days. Our policy is to not include anything on our web site or our catalogue until we actually are holding a copy in our hands. We have been caught a number of times in the past by publishers who promise titles and then fail to deliver, leaving us with heaps of back orders from customers wanting the book. If it is available, we will have it on our list if it is not there, then it is probably not yet in the country. If you want to be notified personally when the book comes in, add your name to our email list, via the web site, and you'll get our regular bulletins. Regards, Andrea - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Mary Murphy To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]list Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 6:58 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Book title Hi, I wish to buy a book called Normal Childbirth: evidence debate Ed. Soo Downe. Publisher: Churchill-Livingstone. Has anyone read it or know where I can buy it? thanks, MM - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Book title
Hi, I wish to buy a book called "Normal Childbirth: evidence debate" Ed. Soo Downe. Publisher:Churchill-Livingstone. Has anyone read it or know where I can buy it? thanks, MM
Re: [ozmidwifery] Book title
it's on amazon.com but it's $55US plus shipping Kirsten - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: list Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 6:58 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Book title Hi, I wish to buy a book called "Normal Childbirth: evidence debate" Ed. Soo Downe. Publisher:Churchill-Livingstone. Has anyone read it or know where I can buy it? thanks, MM
Re: [ozmidwifery] Book title
or from http://www.elsevier.com.au/book.cfm?id=75394 for $85AU All I did was go to www.google.com.au and put the title of the book in the search - came up with several hits Kirsten - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: list Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 6:58 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Book title Hi, I wish to buy a book called "Normal Childbirth: evidence debate" Ed. Soo Downe. Publisher:Churchill-Livingstone. Has anyone read it or know where I can buy it? thanks, MM
Re: [ozmidwifery] Book title
Hi Mary You may get this title through Elsevier as they have Churchill-Livingstone books in their catalogue from time to time. Email Elsevier at [EMAIL PROTECTED]> or Phone them for the cost of a local call 1800 263 951 or Fax them (02) 9517 2249 Hope this is helpful Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 22/07/2004, at 8:58 PM, Mary Murphy wrote: Hi, I wish to buy a book called Normal Childbirth: evidence debate Ed. Soo Downe. Publisher: Churchill-Livingstone. Has anyone read it or know where I can buy it? thanks, MM
[ozmidwifery] Book Review (question for Andrea or someone at Birth International)
Andrea I have a book review for you, but can't remember who I should email it to. Can you email me offlist and let me know who I should send it to. Thanks Debbie Slater
[ozmidwifery] interesting book
Pursuant to the fascinating discussion on midwives, obstetric nurses and the micropolitics of the professions vis a vis obstetricians and other doctors involved in childbirth I have just finished my easter read: Misconceptions by Terry McGee, an obstetrician and first-time author from Sydney. It's a fascinating read for the story alone, which is a fictional tale of a female obstetrician who is sued for negligence after the birth of a brain-injured child. It is a real insight into the medico-legal process, but also a sensitive portrayal of family life and the stresses and strains that obstetric practice places upon it. Particularly for a woman, I might add. It certainly paints a less black/white:right/wrong picture of 'defensive medicine'. I read the whole 462 pages in two days so the narrative was compelling, but I am considering offering it for summer reads to my students between semesters, along with Chris Bojahlian's Midwives and Gay Coultier's A Midwife's Tale, etc. It's published by Pan 2003 if you're interested. If anyone else has read it, let me know what you thought. Trish -- Trish David FACM Senior Lecturer Midwifery and Nursing Monash University School of Nursing Gippsland Campus Northways Road Churchill 3842 (03) 5122 6839 0418 994033 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Updating book
Hi Carol Glad you are doing the update. Your book was always a valuable reference. Will you be adding anything on the homebirth choice? The Australian Society of Independent Midwives IASIM) still exists, although with deploeted numbers due to many of the IPMs dropping out through lack of insurance. Registered midwives are still attending a few hundred homebirths in NSW an we have good evidence that there are aroujnd twice as many unattended and unreported homebirths occuring. Maybe worthwhile keeping abreast of the NSW Health initiative to achieve funded homebirths in NSW. There are working parties meeting on this matter currently and we hope to have some workable solution by the end of this year so that NSW women can choose to plan to birth at home with their own midwife. Regards Jan Jan Robinson 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Australia Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 www: midwiferyeducation.com.au National Coordinator Australian Society of Independently Practising Midwives (ASIM)
[ozmidwifery] Updating book
Hi everyone, I have recently rejoined the list because I have been asked by Random House to update a book I wrote in 1997 when I was the editor of 'Australia's Parents magazine' and 'Pregnancy magazine'. It's titled 'Having a Baby. The essential Australian guide to pregnancy and birth' and I am hoping that some of you will have read it and will be happy to tell me what they thought it lacked and where they think it may be out of date. It's not a total re-write, but I would like to make it as current as possible. Not being the editor of a national magazine on the subject means that I am not as in touch as I would like to be. Any comments, criticisms, help - would be much appreciated, Thanks Carol FallowsFreelance magazine editor writer63 Wood Street, Manly 2095 AustraliaPh 02-9976 6177; Fax 02-9976 6188www.carolfallows.com.au
Re: [ozmidwifery] Updating book
Dear carol Will there be information on NMAP and all the efforts across the country for universal access to 1-to-1 midwifery and those that a re up or almost so and what is in the pipe line and the intent, actions of MC to get what our kiwi sisters have or near it ??Denise Hynd (CMWA board member MC actovist or Kiwi Immigrant ) - Original Message - From: Carol Fallows To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 9:15 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Updating book Hi everyone, I have recently rejoined the list because I have been asked by Random House to update a book I wrote in 1997 when I was the editor of 'Australia's Parents magazine' and 'Pregnancy magazine'. It's titled 'Having a Baby. The essential Australian guide to pregnancy and birth' and I am hoping that some of you will have read it and will be happy to tell me what they thought it lacked and where they think it may be out of date. It's not a total re-write, but I would like to make it as current as possible. Not being the editor of a national magazine on the subject means that I am not as in touch as I would like to be. Any comments, criticisms, help - would be much appreciated, Thanks Carol FallowsFreelance magazine editor writer63 Wood Street, Manly 2095 AustraliaPh 02-9976 6177; Fax 02-9976 6188www.carolfallows.com.au
RE: [ozmidwifery] New Birth Book
Denise Thank you for the link I visited and am very impressed I have my fingers crossed this book might help to counter the damage done by What to Expect to go wrong when your Expecting. I wonder if it is available in Australia yet? Hug Julie Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 T. (02) 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 265530 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denise Hynd Sent: Sunday, 21 September 2003 11:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] New Birth Book Editor of Mothering Magazine has written a birth book worth a look ? http://www.mercola.com/2003/sep/20/natural_birth.htm Denise
[ozmidwifery] Having a Baby naturally book
julie it is available, Capers have it, got one a couple of weeks ago. Barbara --- Julie Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Denise Thank you for the link - I visited and am very impressed - I have my fingers crossed this book might help to counter the damage done by What to Expect to go wrong when your Expecting. I wonder if it is available in Australia yet? Hug Julie Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 T. (02) 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 265530 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denise Hynd Sent: Sunday, 21 September 2003 11:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] New Birth Book Editor of Mothering Magazine has written a birth book worth a look ? http://www.mercola.com/2003/sep/20/natural_birth.htm Denise http://search.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Search - Looking for more? Try the new Yahoo! Search -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] New Birth Book
Editor of Mothering Magazine has written a birth book worth a look ?http://www.mercola.com/2003/sep/20/natural_birth.htm Denise
Re: [ozmidwifery] excellent book
And to think that Marsden wrote it in 1983 and most people you ask have never heard of it. People on this list exempted of course. I agree it confirms what most midwives know anyway Andrea Q On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 08:12 PM, Rob and Claire Leslie-Carter wrote: I have just started a really good book which I think everyone should read, it is called Pursuing the Birth Machine by Marsden Wagner. I am only on the third chapter, but it is amazing to have some of the things I have been suspicious of confirmed. It's not all in my head after all. Claire Saxby _ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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It is certainly a good book. He also has some articles on the birthinternational site worth reading. Judy From: "Rob and Claire Leslie-Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] excellent book Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:12:03 +0100 I have just started a really good book which I think everyone should read, it is called "Pursuing the Birth Machine" by Marsden Wagner. I am only on the third chapter, but it is amazing to have some of the things I have been suspicious of confirmed. It's not all in my head after all. Claire Saxby _ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. ninemsn Extra Storage comes with McAfee Virus Scanning - to keep your Hotmail account and PC safe. Sign up now -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] excellent book
I have just started a really good book which I think everyone should read, it is called Pursuing the Birth Machine by Marsden Wagner. I am only on the third chapter, but it is amazing to have some of the things I have been suspicious of confirmed. It's not all in my head after all. Claire Saxby _ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Make sure you finish the book Claire - it is full of insight and has lessons for us all. You should read his paper Fish Can't See Water - you can access it on the Birthinternational website - it is well worth a read. I gave it to all the doctors at work! Regards, Lynne - Original Message - From: Rob and Claire Leslie-Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 8:12 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] excellent book I have just started a really good book which I think everyone should read, it is called Pursuing the Birth Machine by Marsden Wagner. I am only on the third chapter, but it is amazing to have some of the things I have been suspicious of confirmed. It's not all in my head after all. Claire Saxby _ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] VBAC book
Hi Katrina I have a VBAC package in my private library for VBAC women who book into my classes to borrow which I find very useful it consists of: (Book) Birth after C.Section by Dr Bruce Flamm very good but I don't know if it's still in print - (Book) The Caeserean Experience by Sarah Clement is English (Book) Caeserean Birth by Zena Armstrong is aussie (Book) Birth after Caeserean - Unlimited Possibilities by Jenny Allen and Trish Riggs who ran the VBAC support group in the ACT - no longer happening and I don't know how you'd get this book these days - but it was brilliantly written - glad I've got a copy - (Video) Gentle Birth Choices (USA) (Video) From The Silence Ferrara, Helen I've had very positive feedback about the package, so I hope the above helps you. Julie Clarke Childbirth and Parenting Educator Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224 T. (02) 9544 6441 F (02) 9544 9257 M. 0401 265 530 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tim and Katrina Sent: Wednesday, 5 February 2003 2:45 PM To: ozmid Subject: [ozmidwifery] VBAC book Hi All, I would like some recommendations on a good VBAC book for our local ABA library Any ideas? Katrina Matthews -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] sounds like a wonderful book!
What was it like to be a midwife in the 18th century? Read Mother and Child Were Saved, The Memoirs (1693-1740), of Frisian Midwife Catharina Schrader, and find out. Hurry! Only a limited number of copies are available. http://www.midwiferytoday.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PRODStore_Code=MTProduct_Code=MCS Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith love...
Re: [ozmidwifery] sounds like a wonderful book!
Hi All, Does anyone know if this book is available within Australia? - It would be quicker and less costly for postage. Thanks, Leanne. From: Jo Dean Bainbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: c-aware list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] sounds like a wonderful book! Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 19:27:06 +1030 What was it like to be a midwife in the 18th century? Read Mother and Child Were Saved, The Memoirs (1693-1740), of Frisian Midwife Catharina Schrader, and find out. Hurry! Only a limited number of copies are available. http://www.midwiferytoday.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PRODStore_Code=MTProduct_Code=MCS Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA www.cares-sa.org.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith love... _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] VBAC book
Hi All, I would like some recommendations on a good VBAC book for our local ABA library Any ideas? Katrina Matthews -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC book
check out the CARES SA suggested reading list: www.cares-sa.org.au Carolyn has made some comments about the books that we recommend highly. cheers Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA www.cares-sa.org.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith love... - Original Message - From: Tim and Katrina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmid [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 2:15 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] VBAC book Hi All, I would like some recommendations on a good VBAC book for our local ABA library Any ideas? Katrina Matthews -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Calling for book reviewers
. If you are interested, please email me the following details: Name Anne Clarke Postal address 41 Kidman Pl, Keperra Q 4054 Phone number 07 33516895 Area of interest/expertise Midwife, Child, Adolescent and Family Health, Childbirth Educator, Lactation Consultant -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] My book
What a fabulous role model you are Pinky. I didn't home school, chose to battle the system instead, really wish I would have home schooled, more for the bruisesI received than the girls, who grew up to be themselves despite the system. Anyway, what legacy you have woven. marilyn - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 5:17 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] My book Hi Jayne, Where are you? that must have been a long time ago -I think I remember writing one about homeschooling my kids (do you want a followup? - Richard (28 now) is currently designing an ecommerce websitefor a symphony orchestra group - and they said he was severely learning disabled/ dyslexicat school and wouldnt learn to readeven though he had a 'gifted' IQ (Ugh labels - thats why I de-schooled),Jonathan (26) - whom they said 'does not conform' (but must!! -so I took him out too)- has travelled to many unconventional destinations -including to see the gorillas in the mist (His dream from childhood),a Rastafarian commune in Ethiopia -Bob Marley was his hero when he was a teen -he worked as a travel leader in Africa for a year and a couple of years ago was shipped out of a bush camp with Typhoid and Malaria - hehad picked up a tribeswoman and her sick baby (he speaks fluent swahili) and taken them to a borderclinic -on the way they both vomited and he cleaned them up (as he would have done with his own younger siblings) - this is how he caught typhoid. He is now a chef -we joke about Typhoid Jono cooking the tucker - he cooked a lovely vegetarian lunch for my toddler workshop today. Larissa (22) didnt go to primary school at all/ spent the next years at schoolgetting herself kicked out of class so she could go to the library and readand has just finished degrees in psychology and business management -she will go back and continue with psychology -she wants to do forensic psych. She always takes some subjects 'just for her' - when she was neck deep in macro economics she did'sociology of popular music' and a major assignment on FRank Zappa. This year she took literature, for her. Sarah (19) is a photography student - also homeschooled at primary, she discovered her passion in her second last year at secondary school - her biology teacher bailed me up about his top student 'ditching' biology in her final year in favour of art subjects -and outdoor ed (for the camps) - she actually jumped in the freezing cold Yarra river to pull her teacher (not the same guy)out when his canoe capsized -the other girls wouldnt get wet! I told him I was simply thrilled she had discovered her passion at such a young age - how many of us take a lifetime? Not sure he was impressed -I am sure he didnt award me any 'good mummy stars' for encouraging her to thumb her nose at academia. I think I wrote a couple of other articlestoo -I was a "broke" tandem nursing mum at the time and exchanged articles for magazines!! I dont think many locals had even heard of Compleat mother in those pre-computer/ internet days - it was a lifeline to me to have stories from others who were bucking the system. Thanks Catherine Young - I know you will still be mothering mothers and babies on the other side. What a legacy she left. Pinky - Original Message - From: Jayne To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] My book Pinky, At present I'm typing up articles from very old issues of The Compleat Mother for republishing in future issues. I came across one of yours yesterday :) Regards, Jayne - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:36 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] My book Hi Jen Wow! if you noticed that wee bit at least others might too. Thanks, yes I "knew" there was going to be a mention - I approached the editor / discussed an article/ (even offered to write one) was told there would 'definitely' be an article. later. this became a review (we have to cater to the advertisers) and definitely a cover shot -' when I have read the book I will, scan it in myself'- Obviously space was a big consideration so lucky to have a mention at all,but actually I dont think she has read the book - "firm but loving routines!!" - firm and routine dont really reflect it but hey - any publicity is good - writing abook is only a tiny part of the job - promotion is enormous and certainly not something one gets paid for but if not done books disappear from the
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Hi Marilyn
my youngest is in the local school, he did have
some early HS and a small Steiner school whichstarted with just a few days
a week- while some things are better these days, like birthing it seems
incredible that nobody has worked it out - that kids behave as well as they
aretreated (just like us). I get so sick of hearing about yard duty
and lines for trivial stuff like not having my hat on because some girl threw it
over the fence -it was just a game! Last week Iwentto teacher
asking 'what the helll is a gold license?"obviously worth TWO yard duties
in the same lunch break(I had been to doctors, a funeral and an exhibition
openingwith my older kids that day and worked til 2am to catch up but
didnt know about 'gold license')-I found it in the recycling bin at home -
"tidy" (Obsessive) hubby had thrown the little piece of paper in the bin -kid
had placed it beside his shoes so he wouldnt forget it in the morning. Today we
are having an "RDO" and doing schoolwork at home (catching up on homework to
avoid lines which a) dont teach anything esp enthusiasm for homework! b)
interfere with social skills -playing and being part of the group at playtime
which is vital when a kid has other difficulties and c) mean the kid
doesnt get necessary exercise to relieve the "ants" to make sitting in
classroom for next part of day practical d) simply adds to the stress
ofspending most of the day doing something that is very difficult for him
then coming home and having to do more of same) today he was complaining
that "the remedial teacher yells when I yawn or sniff and its all dripping
in the back of my throat. I have to sniff"-in spite of claratyne and diet
restrictionshe has allergies and hayfeverat present which
accounts for yawning and sniffing-as well as the light sensitivity which
affectsvisual perception and an auditory processing difficulty which means
he cant block out extra noise and differentiate which is the voice to listen to.
It is probably very like being spoken at in both ears simultaneously while the
teacher is trying to give instructions - ever tried thisas an exercise? -
(we did it at the toddler workshop just to show how littlies may be affected by
places like shopping centres etc-it drives you bonkers)
-yes I have bruises to show too - I so strongly believe that the
skills we learn from participating in birth keep on helping us to question/
assert (the 'authorities' are not all knowing) and the bonding gives us
and our kids a head start in empathy. We need this confidence and inner knowing
to take us along the mother journey.
Wherever we birth or school, ultimately it is our
relationship with the kids that colours their ability to be who they are.
Circumstances vary so much for each of us and at different times - with a sick
husband I neither have the energy to fight the system some days (and wonder if
it will make a difference anyway),nor the envirionment I would like and
not working isnt an option either for the $$ or for being me , so I try to work
within these confines the best I can and school is part of the equation (most
days). Funnily, I used to get flack because my kids werent in school -now
I sometimes get flack because this child is at school - a mothers place is often
'in the wrong'. If we had been driving aeroplanes for twenty odd years,
people would trust that we might have developed some skills but as a mother - no
such acknowledgment!
Pinky
- Original Message -
From:
Marilyn
Kleidon
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:42
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] My book
What a fabulous role model you are Pinky. I
didn't home school, chose to battle the system instead, really wish I would
have home schooled, more for the bruisesI received than the girls, who
grew up to be themselves despite the system. Anyway, what legacy you
have woven.
marilyn
- Original Message -
From:
Pinky McKay
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 5:17
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] My
book
Hi Jayne,
Where are you? that must have been a long time
ago -I think I remember writing one about homeschooling my kids (do you want
a followup? - Richard (28 now) is currently designing an ecommerce
websitefor a symphony orchestra group - and they said he was
severely learning disabled/ dyslexicat school and wouldnt learn to
readeven though he had a 'gifted' IQ (Ugh labels - thats why I
de-schooled),Jonathan (26) - whom they said 'does not conform' (but
must!! -so I took him out too)- has travelled to many
unconventional destinations -including to see the gorillas in the mist (His
dream from childhood),a Rastafarian commune in Ethiopia -Bob Marley
was his hero when he was a teen -he worked as a travel leader in
Africa for a y
[ozmidwifery] Thank you book reviewers!
Hello intrepid readers, Thank you all very much for you generous offers of help with book reviewing. I now have a great list of readers which will keep us happy for quite a while. I am sorting out books today for sending out and there will be another mailing next week. More just before Christmas, as the stock for our new catalogue in February begins to arrive. Those of you who are new to the group will get preference with this first round and I will do my best to select books that I think will match you area of expertise. If I have guessed wrongly, you can always return the book and I will pass it on to someone else. There are guidelines for writing the review with each book. Look forward to receiving your impressions and comments (good or bad!), Warm regards, Andrea - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Reminds me of that wonderful piece of wisdomexclaimed by Sue Clarke (homebirth/Mothers And Midwives Action Group, Melbourne) watching Leslie feed: "Aviva, your son is going to spend the rest of his life looking for a woman with breasts bigger than his head". Yep, she was right! Very healthy young man. Never one to be beaten in any way by a teacher. One day in Homegroup, the teacher was carrying on about his not having a tie. His mate whipped his off, handed it to Leslie, who flung it round his neck and said, "Yes, see, I do have a tie". So silly teacher then berated the lad who now had no tie. Of course, Leslie handed his mate the tie, "See, I have a tie". Believe it or not, this continued for some minutes, as this stupid woman did not want to give up. Who CARES about a high school boy not wanting a convention derived from the old Spartan Sweat Rag round his neck all day! Oh, it's great being a parent of spirited children! aviva - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] My book Hi Jayne -Yes, itsfine to forward - add my website to it please www.pinky-mychild.com - pity we didnt meet that long ago - kindred spirits werent thick on the ground at the time, although I do have some lovely discussions with friends from back then about the flack we copped for the co-sleeping/ breastfeeding etc Its been interesting watching these kids grow into such individual spirits who are nice people in spite of not being belted into submission andsurprisingly not much has changed for mothers -there is still pressure to 'control' kids/ not ''give up your life' "MAKE' them independent etc (I had a call from a mother the other day who said MY baby SHOULD be holding his own bottle by now I dont want him to be attached to me - he was eight months old!! (mine breastfed til they were 5 - years - what could I tell her - that they might still want to snuggle up to a breast when they are 21 -but it wont be yours - I dont think she actually even considered that breasts, babies and attachment werepart of the same picture) . At leastnow I have a link to Compleat mother and other gentle placeson my website- at least there is a chance people will find support - if they want to. Pinky
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Pinky, can you hear the sound of many hands clapping? There are two here from me. Love, Aviva - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] My book Hi Marilyn my youngest is in the local school, he did have some early HS and a small Steiner school whichstarted with just a few days a week- while some things are better these days, like birthing it seems incredible that nobody has worked it out - that kids behave as well as they aretreated (just like us). I get so sick of hearing about yard duty and lines for trivial stuff like not having my hat on because some girl threw it over the fence -it was just a game! Last week Iwentto teacher asking 'what the helll is a gold license?"obviously worth TWO yard duties in the same lunch break(I had been to doctors, a funeral and an exhibition openingwith my older kids that day and worked til 2am to catch up but didnt know about 'gold license')-I found it in the recycling bin at home - "tidy" (Obsessive) hubby had thrown the little piece of paper in the bin -kid had placed it beside his shoes so he wouldnt forget it in the morning. Today we are having an "RDO" and doing schoolwork at home (catching up on homework to avoid lines which a) dont teach anything esp enthusiasm for homework! b) interfere with social skills -playing and being part of the group at playtime which is vital when a kid has other difficulties and c) mean the kid doesnt get necessary exercise to relieve the "ants" to make sitting in classroom for next part of day practical d) simply adds to the stress ofspending most of the day doing something that is very difficult for him then coming home and having to do more of same) today he was complaining that "the remedial teacher yells when I yawn or sniff and its all dripping in the back of my throat. I have to sniff"-in spite of claratyne and diet restrictionshe has allergies and hayfeverat present which accounts for yawning and sniffing-as well as the light sensitivity which affectsvisual perception and an auditory processing difficulty which means he cant block out extra noise and differentiate which is the voice to listen to. It is probably very like being spoken at in both ears simultaneously while the teacher is trying to give instructions - ever tried thisas an exercise? - (we did it at the toddler workshop just to show how littlies may be affected by places like shopping centres etc-it drives you bonkers) -yes I have bruises to show too - I so strongly believe that the skills we learn from participating in birth keep on helping us to question/ assert (the 'authorities' are not all knowing) and the bonding gives us and our kids a head start in empathy. We need this confidence and inner knowing to take us along the mother journey. Wherever we birth or school, ultimately it is our relationship with the kids that colours their ability to be who they are. Circumstances vary so much for each of us and at different times - with a sick husband I neither have the energy to fight the system some days (and wonder if it will make a difference anyway),nor the envirionment I would like and not working isnt an option either for the $$ or for being me , so I try to work within these confines the best I can and school is part of the equation (most days). Funnily, I used to get flack because my kids werent in school -now I sometimes get flack because this child is at school - a mothers place is often 'in the wrong'. If we had been driving aeroplanes for twenty odd years, people would trust that we might have developed some skills but as a mother - no such acknowledgment! Pinky
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Great story! smart kids I am sure if we nurture their spirits when small (nearly said smaller than our boobs then remembered that doesnt apply to me (big bubs) or my boobs! then they will be discerning about allthe irrelevantbullshit that passes in the name of "discipline" and by the way yes I do tell parents its more effective to ask for what you DO want rather than saying "dont" -but you put it better. Thanks Pinky - Original Message - From: Aviva Sheb'a To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] My book Reminds me of that wonderful piece of wisdomexclaimed by Sue Clarke (homebirth/Mothers And Midwives Action Group, Melbourne) watching Leslie feed: "Aviva, your son is going to spend the rest of his life looking for a woman with breasts bigger than his head". Yep, she was right! Very healthy young man. Never one to be beaten in any way by a teacher. One day in Homegroup, the teacher was carrying on about his not having a tie. His mate whipped his off, handed it to Leslie, who flung it round his neck and said, "Yes, see, I do have a tie". So silly teacher then berated the lad who now had no tie. Of course, Leslie handed his mate the tie, "See, I have a tie". Believe it or not, this continued for some minutes, as this stupid woman did not want to give up. Who CARES about a high school boy not wanting a convention derived from the old Spartan Sweat Rag round his neck all day! Oh, it's great being a parent of spirited children! aviva - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] My book Hi Jayne -Yes, itsfine to forward - add my website to it please www.pinky-mychild.com - pity we didnt meet that long ago - kindred spirits werent thick on the ground at the time, although I do have some lovely discussions with friends from back then about the flack we copped for the co-sleeping/ breastfeeding etc Its been interesting watching these kids grow into such individual spirits who are nice people in spite of not being belted into submission andsurprisingly not much has changed for mothers -there is still pressure to 'control' kids/ not ''give up your life' "MAKE' them independent etc (I had a call from a mother the other day who said MY baby SHOULD be holding his own bottle by now I dont want him to be attached to me - he was eight months old!! (mine breastfed til they were 5 - years - what could I tell her - that they might still want to snuggle up to a breast when they are 21 -but it wont be yours - I dont think she actually even considered that breasts, babies and attachment werepart of the same picture) . At leastnow I have a link to Compleat mother and other gentle placeson my website- at least there is a chance people will find support - if they want to. Pinky
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Thanks Pinky - Original Message - From: Aviva Sheb'a To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] My book Pinky, can you hear the sound of many hands clapping? There are two here from me. Love, Aviva - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] My book Hi Marilyn my youngest is in the local school, he did have some early HS and a small Steiner school whichstarted with just a few days a week- while some things are better these days, like birthing it seems incredible that nobody has worked it out - that kids behave as well as they aretreated (just like us). I get so sick of hearing about yard duty and lines for trivial stuff like not having my hat on because some girl threw it over the fence -it was just a game! Last week Iwentto teacher asking 'what the helll is a gold license?"obviously worth TWO yard duties in the same lunch break(I had been to doctors, a funeral and an exhibition openingwith my older kids that day and worked til 2am to catch up but didnt know about 'gold license')-I found it in the recycling bin at home - "tidy" (Obsessive) hubby had thrown the little piece of paper in the bin -kid had placed it beside his shoes so he wouldnt forget it in the morning. Today we are having an "RDO" and doing schoolwork at home (catching up on homework to avoid lines which a) dont teach anything esp enthusiasm for homework! b) interfere with social skills -playing and being part of the group at playtime which is vital when a kid has other difficulties and c) mean the kid doesnt get necessary exercise to relieve the "ants" to make sitting in classroom for next part of day practical d) simply adds to the stress ofspending most of the day doing something that is very difficult for him then coming home and having to do more of same) today he was complaining that "the remedial teacher yells when I yawn or sniff and its all dripping in the back of my throat. I have to sniff"-in spite of claratyne and diet restrictionshe has allergies and hayfeverat present which accounts for yawning and sniffing-as well as the light sensitivity which affectsvisual perception and an auditory processing difficulty which means he cant block out extra noise and differentiate which is the voice to listen to. It is probably very like being spoken at in both ears simultaneously while the teacher is trying to give instructions - ever tried thisas an exercise? - (we did it at the toddler workshop just to show how littlies may be affected by places like shopping centres etc-it drives you bonkers) -yes I have bruises to show too - I so strongly believe that the skills we learn from participating in birth keep on helping us to question/ assert (the 'authorities' are not all knowing) and the bonding gives us and our kids a head start in empathy. We need this confidence and inner knowing to take us along the mother journey. Wherever we birth or school, ultimately it is our relationship with the kids that colours their ability to be who they are. Circumstances vary so much for each of us and at different times - with a sick husband I neither have the energy to fight the system some days (and wonder if it will make a difference anyway),nor the envirionment I would like and not working isnt an option either for the $$ or for being me , so I try to work within these confines the best I can and school is part of the equation (most days). Funnily, I used to get flack because my kids werent in school -now I sometimes get flack because this child is at school - a mothers place is often 'in the wrong'. If we had been driving aeroplanes for twenty odd years, people would trust that we might have developed some skills but as a mother - no such acknowledgment! Pinky
[ozmidwifery] My book
Hi Jen Wow! if you noticed that wee bit at least others might too. Thanks, yes I "knew" there was going to be a mention - I approached the editor / discussed an article/ (even offered to write one) was told there would 'definitely' be an article. later. this became a review (we have to cater to the advertisers) and definitely a cover shot -' when I have read the book I will, scan it in myself'- Obviously space was a big consideration so lucky to have a mention at all,but actually I dont think she has read the book - "firm but loving routines!!" - firm and routine dont really reflect it but hey - any publicity is good - writing abook is only a tiny part of the job - promotion is enormous and certainly not something one gets paid for but if not done books disappear from the shelves and end up in $2 bins - or shredded/ dumped - its true!!(Aviva -I know the feeling of virtually working for zilch or less and all others in the process make the profits - booksellers, publishers and even distributors make more than authors - how did Christopher Green sell a million books - at $2 a book royalties, that would be profitable - going grey and wearing a suit and tie are not an option!) and it may in fact appeal to the people who are most uptight -I just did a Terrific Toddler workshop today - the greatest concern as parents called to bookwas discipline - I had parents of 14 - 18 month olds wanting to know how to make their child"obey" - they gained something very different -hopefully, a whole new way of seeing their tots - as people, not little things! A lovely day Pinky
Re: [ozmidwifery] My book
Pinky, At present I'm typing up articles from very old issues of The Compleat Mother for republishing in future issues. I came across one of yours yesterday :) Regards, Jayne - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:36 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] My book Hi Jen Wow! if you noticed that wee bit at least others might too. Thanks, yes I "knew" there was going to be a mention - I approached the editor / discussed an article/ (even offered to write one) was told there would 'definitely' be an article. later. this became a review (we have to cater to the advertisers) and definitely a cover shot -' when I have read the book I will, scan it in myself'- Obviously space was a big consideration so lucky to have a mention at all,but actually I dont think she has read the book - "firm but loving routines!!" - firm and routine dont really reflect it but hey - any publicity is good - writing abook is only a tiny part of the job - promotion is enormous and certainly not something one gets paid for but if not done books disappear from the shelves and end up in $2 bins - or shredded/ dumped - its true!!(Aviva -I know the feeling of virtually working for zilch or less and all others in the process make the profits - booksellers, publishers and even distributors make more than authors - how did Christopher Green sell a million books - at $2 a book royalties, that would be profitable - going grey and wearing a suit and tie are not an option!) and it may in fact appeal to the people who are most uptight -I just did a Terrific Toddler workshop today - the greatest concern as parents called to bookwas discipline - I had parents of 14 - 18 month olds wanting to know how to make their child"obey" - they gained something very different -hopefully, a whole new way of seeing their tots - as people, not little things! A lovely day Pinky
Re: [ozmidwifery] My book
Hi Jayne, Where are you? that must have been a long time ago -I think I remember writing one about homeschooling my kids (do you want a followup? - Richard (28 now) is currently designing an ecommerce websitefor a symphony orchestra group - and they said he was severely learning disabled/ dyslexicat school and wouldnt learn to readeven though he had a 'gifted' IQ (Ugh labels - thats why I de-schooled),Jonathan (26) - whom they said 'does not conform' (but must!! -so I took him out too)- has travelled to many unconventional destinations -including to see the gorillas in the mist (His dream from childhood),a Rastafarian commune in Ethiopia -Bob Marley was his hero when he was a teen -he worked as a travel leader in Africa for a year and a couple of years ago was shipped out of a bush camp with Typhoid and Malaria - hehad picked up a tribeswoman and her sick baby (he speaks fluent swahili) and taken them to a borderclinic -on the way they both vomited and he cleaned them up (as he would have done with his own younger siblings) - this is how he caught typhoid. He is now a chef -we joke about Typhoid Jono cooking the tucker - he cooked a lovely vegetarian lunch for my toddler workshop today. Larissa (22) didnt go to primary school at all/ spent the next years at schoolgetting herself kicked out of class so she could go to the library and readand has just finished degrees in psychology and business management -she will go back and continue with psychology -she wants to do forensic psych. She always takes some subjects 'just for her' - when she was neck deep in macro economics she did'sociology of popular music' and a major assignment on FRank Zappa. This year she took literature, for her. Sarah (19) is a photography student - also homeschooled at primary, she discovered her passion in her second last year at secondary school - her biology teacher bailed me up about his top student 'ditching' biology in her final year in favour of art subjects -and outdoor ed (for the camps) - she actually jumped in the freezing cold Yarra river to pull her teacher (not the same guy)out when his canoe capsized -the other girls wouldnt get wet! I told him I was simply thrilled she had discovered her passion at such a young age - how many of us take a lifetime? Not sure he was impressed -I am sure he didnt award me any 'good mummy stars' for encouraging her to thumb her nose at academia. I think I wrote a couple of other articlestoo -I was a "broke" tandem nursing mum at the time and exchanged articles for magazines!! I dont think many locals had even heard of Compleat mother in those pre-computer/ internet days - it was a lifeline to me to have stories from others who were bucking the system. Thanks Catherine Young - I know you will still be mothering mothers and babies on the other side. What a legacy she left. Pinky - Original Message - From: Jayne To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] My book Pinky, At present I'm typing up articles from very old issues of The Compleat Mother for republishing in future issues. I came across one of yours yesterday :) Regards, Jayne - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:36 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] My book Hi Jen Wow! if you noticed that wee bit at least others might too. Thanks, yes I "knew" there was going to be a mention - I approached the editor / discussed an article/ (even offered to write one) was told there would 'definitely' be an article. later. this became a review (we have to cater to the advertisers) and definitely a cover shot -' when I have read the book I will, scan it in myself'- Obviously space was a big consideration so lucky to have a mention at all,but actually I dont think she has read the book - "firm but loving routines!!" - firm and routine dont really reflect it but hey - any publicity is good - writing abook is only a tiny part of the job - promotion is enormous and certainly not something one gets paid for but if not done books disappear from the shelves and end up in $2 bins - or shredded/ dumped - its true!!(Aviva -I know the feeling of virtually working for zilch or less and all others in the process make the profits - booksellers, publishers and even distributors make more than authors - how did Christopher Green sell a million books - at $2 a book royalties, that would be profitable - going grey and wearing a suit and tie are not an option!) and it may in fact appeal to the people who are most uptight -I just did a Terrific Toddler workshop today - the greatest concern as parents called to bookwas discipline - I had parents of 14 - 18 month ol
Re: [ozmidwifery] My book
Good stuff, Pinky! Do you tell parents not to say the word "don't"? That bit of advice I gained very early in Leslie's life; works really well. Don't say Don't.Littlies just don't get the word, do they. Don't think of a purple horse with pink wings...! Yes, darling, leave the beautiful bottle where it is, that's right. Yes, darling, you can take a pic with my SLR camera -- and this is how you do it. One of the best pics ever taken of me was a portrait by Leslie, taken when he was 3! It's stunning, perfectly focused and composed! And I don't look as though I'm shitting myself with fear of what he might do to the camera! Now THAT was the best part! Aviva - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:06 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] My book Hi Jen Wow! if you noticed that wee bit at least others might too. Thanks, yes I "knew" there was going to be a mention - I approached the editor / discussed an article/ (even offered to write one) was told there would 'definitely' be an article. later. this became a review (we have to cater to the advertisers) and definitely a cover shot -' when I have read the book I will, scan it in myself'- Obviously space was a big consideration so lucky to have a mention at all,but actually I dont think she has read the book - "firm but loving routines!!" - firm and routine dont really reflect it but hey - any publicity is good - writing abook is only a tiny part of the job - promotion is enormous and certainly not something one gets paid for but if not done books disappear from the shelves and end up in $2 bins - or shredded/ dumped - its true!!(Aviva -I know the feeling of virtually working for zilch or less and all others in the process make the profits - booksellers, publishers and even distributors make more than authors - how did Christopher Green sell a million books - at $2 a book royalties, that would be profitable - going grey and wearing a suit and tie are not an option!) and it may in fact appeal to the people who are most uptight -I just did a Terrific Toddler workshop today - the greatest concern as parents called to bookwas discipline - I had parents of 14 - 18 month olds wanting to know how to make their child"obey" - they gained something very different -hopefully, a whole new way of seeing their tots - as people, not little things! A lovely day Pinky
Re: [ozmidwifery] Calling for book reviewers
Andrea, As always I am interested in reviewing. Not fussy so long as it has to do with birth but preferably midwifery rather than obstetric Andrea Quanchi 98 Haverfield Street Echuca, 3564 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Calling for book reviewers
Hi Andrea, I didn't hear back from you after the last review that I sent in and was wondering if you still had me on your list or if you were unhappy with the review. You can email me back at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Megan Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15/11/2002 1:50:08 pm Hi listers, We are once again looking for volunteers to add to our team of book reviewers. Each year we receive a number of new tiles that we add to our list on the web site and in our catalogue and as a service to our customers, we like to be able to point buyers to a review of the book to give them an idea of its style and content. We need approximately another 10 people at this time (we still have some reviewers on our panel from almost 2 years ago) and are looking for those with varied backgrounds: midwives, consumers, educators, lactation consultants etc. Before you rush in to reply, please don't offer unless you can promise to send a review within 2 months of receiving a book. You will be able to keep the book in return for your review, but this is not just an easy way to get a free book - we are asking you to do some work for us first! As we have a range of titles available, we will try to match the book with your area of interest. An outline of how to prepare the review will be included. We are hoping to have all reviews completed and on our web site by the end of January. If you are interested, please email me the following details: Name Postal address Phone number Area of interest/expertise Thank you for your interest, Andrea Robertson - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. ** This e-mail, including any attachments sent with it, is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). This confidentiality is not waived or lost if you receive it and you are not the intended recipient(s), or if it is transmitted/ received in error. Any unauthorised use, alteration, disclosure, distribution or review of this e-mail is prohibited. It may be subject to a statutory duty of confidentiality if it relates to health service matters. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or if you have received this e-mail in error, you are asked to immediately notify the sender by telephone or by return e-mail. You should also delete this e-mail message and destroy any hard copies produced. ** -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Calling for book reviewers
I am always willing to read and review, Andrea. Areas of interest include but are not limited to midwifery practice, women's views and women's experience, midwifery/maternity care culture, midwives experience of practice, vaginal birth after cesarean, breech birth, reflective practice, private sector midwifery, keeping birth normal, history of midwifery and cross cultural issues - very broad interests. My (mail and phone)details you have. Looking forward to reading! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery;acegraphics.com.au]On Behalf Of Andrea Robertson Sent: Friday, 15 November 2002 1:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Calling for book reviewers Hi listers, We are once again looking for volunteers to add to our team of book reviewers. Each year we receive a number of new tiles that we add to our list on the web site and in our catalogue and as a service to our customers, we like to be able to point buyers to a review of the book to give them an idea of its style and content. We need approximately another 10 people at this time (we still have some reviewers on our panel from almost 2 years ago) and are looking for those with varied backgrounds: midwives, consumers, educators, lactation consultants etc. Before you rush in to reply, please don't offer unless you can promise to send a review within 2 months of receiving a book. You will be able to keep the book in return for your review, but this is not just an easy way to get a free book - we are asking you to do some work for us first! As we have a range of titles available, we will try to match the book with your area of interest. An outline of how to prepare the review will be included. We are hoping to have all reviews completed and on our web site by the end of January. If you are interested, please email me the following details: Name Postal address Phone number Area of interest/expertise Thank you for your interest, Andrea Robertson - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Calling for book reviewers
As we have a range of titles available, we will try to match the book with your area of interest. An outline of how to prepare the review will be included. We are hoping to have all reviews completed and on our web site by the end of January. If you are interested, please email me the following details: Name Lyle Burgoyne Postal address22a Park Ave Murwillumbah NSW 2484 Phone number0266728372/0404 491 218 Area of interest/expertise Midwife ,Breastfeeding Thank you for your interest, Andrea Robertson - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Calling for book reviewers
Dear Andrea I am interested i used to review when I was a nurse educatior so you can put me down as midwife, consumer educator, and lactation consultant etc. Denise Hynd - Original Message - From: Robin Moon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Calling for book reviewers Hi Andrea, I would be happy to be a book reviewer. NameRobin Moon Postal address 16 Chester Street Epping Phone number98691211 Area of interest/expertise:Midwifery Robin - Original Message - From: Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 2:50 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Calling for book reviewers Hi listers, We are once again looking for volunteers to add to our team of book reviewers. Each year we receive a number of new tiles that we add to our list on the web site and in our catalogue and as a service to our customers, we like to be able to point buyers to a review of the book to give them an idea of its style and content. We need approximately another 10 people at this time (we still have some reviewers on our panel from almost 2 years ago) and are looking for those with varied backgrounds: midwives, consumers, educators, lactation consultants etc. Before you rush in to reply, please don't offer unless you can promise to send a review within 2 months of receiving a book. You will be able to keep the book in return for your review, but this is not just an easy way to get a free book - we are asking you to do some work for us first! As we have a range of titles available, we will try to match the book with your area of interest. An outline of how to prepare the review will be included. We are hoping to have all reviews completed and on our web site by the end of January. If you are interested, please email me the following details: Name Postal address Phone number Area of interest/expertise Thank you for your interest, Andrea Robertson - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Calling for book reviewers
Hi listers, We are once again looking for volunteers to add to our team of book reviewers. Each year we receive a number of new tiles that we add to our list on the web site and in our catalogue and as a service to our customers, we like to be able to point buyers to a review of the book to give them an idea of its style and content. We need approximately another 10 people at this time (we still have some reviewers on our panel from almost 2 years ago) and are looking for those with varied backgrounds: midwives, consumers, educators, lactation consultants etc. Before you rush in to reply, please don't offer unless you can promise to send a review within 2 months of receiving a book. You will be able to keep the book in return for your review, but this is not just an easy way to get a free book - we are asking you to do some work for us first! As we have a range of titles available, we will try to match the book with your area of interest. An outline of how to prepare the review will be included. We are hoping to have all reviews completed and on our web site by the end of January. If you are interested, please email me the following details: Name Postal address Phone number Area of interest/expertise Thank you for your interest, Andrea Robertson - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Nappy Bag Book
thanks Pinky, I am just asking because Adelaide is a 'funny' market. There are set ways in the way things are done and so on. It depends on where the book was sold and how it was promoted that will determine the success (as is the case in other places I suppose). The birth community is quite 'controlled' by the powers that be and perhaps there may be ways in getting the book more well known if we knew where and how it was promoted. cheers Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith love... - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Nappy Bag Book Hi Jo I am not the publisher - I just do profiles - have passed your qyery on to Penny Attiwill the publisher. Pinky - Original Message - From: Jo Dean Bainbridge To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Nappy Bag Book where was it being sold? Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith love... - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Nappy Bag Book I KNow - Sorry Jo -but apparently it didnt sell well enough in SA or WA to justify an annual update. pinky - Original Message - From: Jo Dean Bainbridge To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Nappy Bag Book what about SA? Poor old SA and WA get left out from things happening on the Eastern seaboard alot! I was most distressed when Sting didn't tour here either Please remember us! Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith love... - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 1:25 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Nappy Bag Book Hi everyone in private practice - with a service to promote - it is time to put listings into the Nappy Bag Book - listings are free new editions are being done for Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane -2003. For a form, check out www.nappybag.com.au Get Seen!! Pinky
Re: [ozmidwifery] book sharing, reinforcement of PUSH FOR BIRTH REFORM ( VERY LONG)
Joseph Chilton Pearce, remarkable man. Gave lectures in Melbourne; the first I attended while I was waiting for Leslie's birth; the second not long after his birth. How comforting it was when he told me that babies like Leslie who just don't want to sleep are exceptionally bright! Neither of my babes wanted to sleep and indeed, they have both kept everyone on their toes -- me the most. What I really liked about him was he didn't come across as a know-it-all! Aviva Message - From: elizabeth mcalpine To: ozmidwifery Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 11:49 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] book sharing, reinforcement of PUSH FOR BIRTH REFORM ( VERY LONG) Dear List, I have to share this book - it will make you howl in anguish: it willreinforce your determination to change childbirth practices in this country through the NMAP. Midwives must fight for natural birth. Yes.. PUSH FOR BIRTH REFORM. So, to those of us who mayoccasionally lose heartand I quote. (written 1977, but still recognizable as occurring in our hospitals of today) "The newborn's total sensory system must be brought into play through physical stimulus, because only by stimulation of the body does the reticular formation receive the necessary stimulus to bring it into full play and begin to function fully as the coordinate of body senses and mind-brain activity.
[ozmidwifery] book sharing, reinforcement of PUSH FOR BIRTH REFORM ( VERY LONG)
Dear List, I have to share this book - it will make you howl in anguish: it willreinforce your determination to change childbirth practices in this country through the NMAP. Midwives must fight for natural birth. Yes.. PUSH FOR BIRTH REFORM. So, to those of us who mayoccasionally lose heartand I quote. (written 1977, but still recognizable as occurring in our hospitals of today) "The newborn's total sensory system must be brought into play through physical stimulus, because only by stimulation of the body does the reticular formation receive the necessary stimulus to bring it into full play and begin to function fully as the coordinate of body senses and mind-brain activity. (The critical nature of activation of the reticular formation must be accomplished soon after birth for bonding: otherwise there will extreme and permanent dysfunction) So the infant goes into an extreme stress state shortly before birth. This stimulates ACTH, which then brings about the new proteins and brain-cell connections that prepare the body for dramatic, indeed drastic, physical changes, alerting the body and brain for the fast work to be done. The human mother is genetically programmed to nurture the newborn's body by a continual gentle massage and stimulation. ...the four great needs for bonding: holding, with a body molding of the infant to one's self; prolonged and steady eye contact; smiling; and soothing sounds. Breast-feeding, of course, furnishes all these at once, and body stimulus is what must be added to that vital body-moulding contact. ...the entire procedure of delivery gets seriously delayed and complicated out of all bounds in hospital delivery. Drugs, particularly anaesthetics, specifically slow up the synchronous movements by which the infant is expelled from the womb, and delivery gets extended to torturous lengths. Fear and anxiety build in the mother, and pain follows swift and sure. The pain calls for more medication, as does the anxiety. And what of the infant: his body has begun a massive outpouring of adrenal steroids preparatory to the great push and adaptation, but the movement does not come. His body continues its outpouring of hormones. Stress piles on stress; the expected natural cycle of stress-relaxation is not forthcoming. After hours of this, both mother and infant are exhausted. Then, there are all the medical interferences, the carelessness, and the callousness. Coupled with the conditioned reflex of fear are the operating amphitheater atmosphere, that deadly table, and being forced to lie down, which completely eliminates any last hope of muscular coordinationdrugs that incapacitate both mother and infant. Long before delivery, mother and infant have been kept at a climactic point of tension, able to achieve no resolution. the natural expulsion process is by now thoroughly fouled up, instumentation is used to "assist" the mother in expelling the baby. forceps and suction machines are casually used to claw or suck the infant out of the mother's body, by grabbing that fantastically fragile, all too sensitive, and utterly precious head. The vast majority of the time, such instrumentation is not necessary; and only in a rare emergency could an episiotomy by justified, even with all the complications caused by the medicine man's bag of tricks. The simple truth is that he likes to use his tricks; he likes the drama and impotance of his image, wielding all his mechanical toys, showing the incompetence of nature, and establishing his own superiority. The semi-drugged, overstressed, and exhausted infant is, of course, generally unable to get his breath.the many new, unused coordinates of muscles are confused and malfunctioning. His body is reacting only; all synchronous interactions have long since been destroyed. In addition to his prolonged body fear of oxygen deprivation, when he is finally sucked or clawed out of the mother, his entry is into a noisy, brilliantly lit arena.suction devices are rammed into the mouth and nose.(and) at the critical oxygen-short period, the umbilical cord has been cut. He is cleaned up from the bloodplaced on cold, hard scales like any other piece of meat in a factory..wrapped up to protect him from those demon drafts... No book can ever express the full ramification of this crime against nature. (and) All future learning is affected". Pearce, Joseph Chilton, 1977, "Magical Child", Dutton Publishing, New York
Re: [ozmidwifery] Baby Shower / Pinky's book
Hi Robyn Sisters eh! My book is called Parenting By Heart -at least I think that would be the one you are referring to - 100 Ways to Calm the Crying is the new one (I have just heard the warehouse is empty - they are about to do a reprint!!)-I actually suggested to a mum at a talk last week who did the full elective Caesar bit first time(but wants to avoid a crying bub this time)that she might like to read the crying one first -I was a bit "chicken" (not being my sister!! - mine didnt even have any babies -had a hysterectomy at 36-and told me afterwards!so I share with mythoughts with my brothers gorgeous wife). I thought if she liked the Crying one and it isnt at all threatening -then she might decide to grab Parebnting By Heart - which is upfront about birthing - but hey, it does include an elective caesar story (briefly) between the empoweringbirth centre twins and home birth breach! Perhaps 100 Ways to Calm the Crying will be a subsitute for Babylove - unless of course she is wanting the controlled crying info. I dont give that!! (Baby love has plenty of practical stuff but does the CC in detail). Love Laughter and Parenting by Steve and Sharon Biddulph is a lovely and available parenting book. You could always throw in a membership to ABA . Best wishes, Pinky - Original Message - From: Robin Moon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:42 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Baby Shower / Pinky's book i"m trying to arrange a baby shower for my 40yr old sister having her 2nd after 14 yrs. I must have done something wrong with my midwifery skills at her first baby'seasy vaginal birth because she's rejected my services this time round to have[quote] "no more of that yucky stuff , I'm having an elective c/s."[end quote]... aarrrgh. Her obstetrician gaveher no opposition whatsoever. She's flatly refused to open any conversation with me about her choice, knowing that she doesnt want to hear my opinion or any alternative suggestions... I'm really so sad. At least she's thinking about breast feeding this time around, as last time she lasted 3 days before ditching it because of the unfamiliar and uncomfortablesensations it caused for her. At least i can work on that with her. However, moving on from that, I'm trying to compose a list of pressies for her baby shower. I cant for the life of me remember the proper name of Pinky's book although yesterday I was browsing it in Borders! She also wants ' Baby love' by Robin Barker. Should I leave this one on the list or surreptitiously remove it? hehe. What i'd REALLY like to loan her is Naomi Wolf's number, ' Misconceptions' but she's already cut me off dead about that.. Any other suggestions for appropriate reading material without being too ' in your face' about her choice? Robin
Re: [ozmidwifery] Baby Shower / Pinky's book
how about Henci Goer's little gem "The thinking woman's guide to a better birth", having said that, it's pretty 'in your face"... Tania
A book to read
I have just read "Year of Wonders" by Geraldine Brooks and really enjoyed it. It is set in 1666 and describes the fortunes of an English village during the plague through the eyes of a young woman. There is a story line about midwifery and the views of people of that time in relation to midwifery and how they were accused of being witches (I don't want to give the storyline away). Just thought I'd share that with you. Jackie
Re: A book to read
Along the lines of books to read- I know you probably already have read it- but The Red Tent by Anita Diamant is another great book when it comes to midwifery and womens bodies. A private practicing midwife recommended it to me and I loved it. Take Care Alphia At 09:33 PM 24/05/2002 +0930, Jackie Kitschke wrote: I have just read Year of Wonders by Geraldine Brooks and really enjoyed it. It is set in 1666 and describes the fortunes of an English village during the plague through the eyes of a young woman. There is a story line about midwifery and the views of people of that time in relation to midwifery and how they were accused of being witches (I don't want to give the storyline away). Just thought I'd share that with you. Jackie
address book problems.
People are disappearing out of my address book. Can anyone give me any info? Is it a virus? thanks, Mary M
Re: book suggestions
Dear Margi, theres is a very good book called childhood sexual abuse, sexuality, pregnancy and birthing by Patricia Smith. It costs $30.00 through Capers. I don't know of any other company who stock this book, but its definitely worth a read. Kind regards Deb Minge - Original Message - From: Bruce Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 3:27 PM Subject: book suggestions Hi all I want to start reading books on sexual abuse and birth but don't want to just go to a bookshop/library without some good personal recommendations. TIA Margie -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Herbal book
Thank you everyone for your fast and informative replies. Much easier than me searching for hours on end. Sally DISCLAIMER The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. Opinions contained in the message(s) do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Queensland Government and its authorities. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Crying book
hi Mary, I was asking for personal stories about crying experiences to thread through my book "100 Ways to Calm the Crying" due out in July (I actually thought it would be sooner but although the writing timelimit is short, there is a lengthy process to publication and books have to be in the warehouse two and half months prior) I have seen 365 ways - after mine was contracted and mostly written -mine is actually quite different in format and info, (although I dont remember seeing anything offensive in 365 ways- it is purely "tips")I have personal experiences threaded through as I have in my last book Parenting By Heart (Lothian 2001), since we all have individual experiences and these are not necessarily "right" or "wrong", but often anothers experience will validate our own. I am at editing stage now so have most stories I need although a few more fathers perpectives would be welcome if they arrive in the next week or so.I would especially love a fathers comments on infant massage. Pinky www.pinky-mychild.com
Re: AMAP Book
Hi, Of course, we also have this publication available through ACE Graphics. It is not in the catalogue you will have all received in the past few days because it missed the deadlines for inclusion, but we have it available. Give us a call if you have either missed the catalogue and want one, or want to order this book (02) 9519 5377. Regards, Andrea - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
AMAP resource book
Dear list, Does anyone remember where to obtain a copy of the AMAP resource book for implementing alternative models of midwifery care. It was mentioned on the list a few weeks ago but i have unfortunately deleted it. I urgently need to purchase. Please email me at work [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks, Leigh Pettingill
AMAP Resource Book
Hi Leigh You can get it direct fom AMAP Their phone number is (02)95141677 Justine Caines -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: Penguin Book of Etiquette
And what do they have to say (if anything) about breastfeeding? It's a worry isn't it? I will suggest the author does more research to present 'modern-day' rituals surrounding birth, rather than outdated ones. BB Jackie Mawson. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: Penguin Book of Etiquette
This was my response to the author. Thankyou all who responded to my urgent query. BB Jackie Mawson. I am scrutinizing first proofs of the above book, which is due for publication in April, and I have a very simple question which I am sure you can answer. Do doctors and midwives still slap babies on the bottom when they are born to get them breathing? Absolutely not, Marion! This is an outdated way of resuscitating a child, and was very traumatic and unnecessary when used routinely. I think you need to thoroughly research this section of the book to be sure you are presenting modern birth 'rituals' rather than outdated ones. I would be concerned that you may not present a true version of birth and what to expect afterwards (bonding, breastfeeding, etc) unless you get a midwife to review this specific section of the book for you. Midwives are generally the primary caregiver of women during birth and afterwards - they are the ones who guide the women and care for their needs - more often so than the other practitioners associated with birth (doctors or Obstetricians). I hope this helps. Don't hesitate to recontact me if you would like further clarifications. Take care, Birthing Beautifully, Jackie Mawson. Convenor of Birthrites: Healing After Caesarean Inc. Visit our Website at: http://www.birthrites.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 61 08 9418 8949 Please note I am not a Professional Healthcare Provider, and all opinions given in this email are not to be taken as medical, or legal, advice. Please seek such advice from the relevant professional service. Email me your postal details for a FREE copy of our quarterly magazine, if you live within Australia - Overseas postage costs are above budget, sorry! Too many Gods; so many creeds, Too many paths that wind and wind, When just the art of being kind Is all the sad world needs... -- -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: Penguin Book of Etiquette
Go with your first thought. Makes me wonder what else is in this book that has not been researched as to present day usage. Have a Happy New Year Everyone Carole Gilmour - Original Message - From: Jackie Mawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ozmidwifery List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:45 AM Subject: Penguin Book of Etiquette Hi all, I received this query today and was about to respond - Absolutely not! but thought I would check with you guys first. Please tell me my first response was right. My partner raised the question of Which country are we talking about which also seems valid... BB Jackie Mawson. == Dear Jackie, I am scrutinizing first proofs of the above book, which is due for publication in April, and I have a very simple question which I am sure you can answer. Do doctors and midwives still slap babies on the bottom when they are born to get them breathing? I have assumed so, in writing the chapter on the rituals surrounding the birth of a child, but it occurs to me that this old-fashioned practice might be obsolete. I'd very much appreciate hearing from you . Many thanks and best wishes, Marion von Adlerstein === Birthing Beautifully, Jackie Mawson. Convenor of Birthrites: Healing After Caesarean Inc. Visit our Website at: http://www.birthrites.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 61 08 9418 8949 Please note I am not a Professional Healthcare Provider, and all opinions given in this email are not to be taken as medical, or legal, advice. Please seek such advice from the relevant professional service. Email me your postal details for a FREE copy of our quarterly magazine, if you live within Australia - Overseas postage costs are above budget, sorry! Too many Gods; so many creeds, Too many paths that wind and wind, When just the art of being kind Is all the sad world needs... -- -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Fw: Penguin Book of Etiquette
Hi Jackie, In over 30 years of being a midwife, I have never seen anyone slap a baby on the bottom. (All my experience is in Australia.) When people ask about it, which they do, I've explained the above to them and acknowledged it either as a long ago practice or a myth. Joy Joy Cocks RN (Div 1) RM IBCLC BRIGHT Vic 3741 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jackie Mawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ozmidwifery List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, 31 December 2001 12:11 Subject: Penguin Book of Etiquette Hi all, I received this query today and was about to respond - Absolutely not! but thought I would check with you guys first. Please tell me my first response was right. My partner raised the question of Which country are we talking about which also seems valid... BB Jackie Mawson. == Dear Jackie, I am scrutinizing first proofs of the above book, which is due for publication in April, and I have a very simple question which I am sure you can answer. Do doctors and midwives still slap babies on the bottom when they are born to get them breathing? I have assumed so, in writing the chapter on the rituals surrounding the birth of a child, but it occurs to me that this old-fashioned practice might be obsolete. I'd very much appreciate hearing from you . Many thanks and best wishes, Marion von Adlerstein === Birthing Beautifully, Jackie Mawson. Convenor of Birthrites: Healing After Caesarean Inc. Visit our Website at: http://www.birthrites.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 61 08 9418 8949 Please note I am not a Professional Healthcare Provider, and all opinions given in this email are not to be taken as medical, or legal, advice. Please seek such advice from the relevant professional service. Email me your postal details for a FREE copy of our quarterly magazine, if you live within Australia - Overseas postage costs are above budget, sorry! Too many Gods; so many creeds, Too many paths that wind and wind, When just the art of being kind Is all the sad world needs... -- -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: Penguin Book of Etiquette
Very appropriate as this person obviously is neither a midwife or beemn at many births except maybe in the good ol US of A? Denise - Original Message - From: Jane Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ozmidwifery (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:44 AM Subject: RE: Penguin Book of Etiquette Hi Jackie 'Absolutely not!' is what I would answer the query - it would also be of benefit to get someone to review the section on rituals surrounding the birth of a child who is involved with birth like a midwife. There may be other rituals that are also obsolete. Cheers Jane Pregnancy, Birth and Beyond Caring, Professional Midwifery Services Sydney Visit http://www.pregnancy.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jackie Mawson Sent: Monday, 31 December 2001 11:46 AM To: Ozmidwifery List Subject: Penguin Book of Etiquette Hi all, I received this query today and was about to respond - Absolutely not! but thought I would check with you guys first. Please tell me my first response was right. My partner raised the question of Which country are we talking about which also seems valid... BB Jackie Mawson. == Dear Jackie, I am scrutinizing first proofs of the above book, which is due for publication in April, and I have a very simple question which I am sure you can answer. Do doctors and midwives still slap babies on the bottom when they are born to get them breathing? I have assumed so, in writing the chapter on the rituals surrounding the birth of a child, but it occurs to me that this old-fashioned practice might be obsolete. I'd very much appreciate hearing from you . Many thanks and best wishes, Marion von Adlerstein === Birthing Beautifully, Jackie Mawson. Convenor of Birthrites: Healing After Caesarean Inc. Visit our Website at: http://www.birthrites.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 61 08 9418 8949 Please note I am not a Professional Healthcare Provider, and all opinions given in this email are not to be taken as medical, or legal, advice. Please seek such advice from the relevant professional service. Email me your postal details for a FREE copy of our quarterly magazine, if you live within Australia - Overseas postage costs are above budget, sorry! Too many Gods; so many creeds, Too many paths that wind and wind, When just the art of being kind Is all the sad world needs... -- -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: Birth Story Book
Joy and List, The point you illustrate is obviously correct Joy. You must have been very disappointed that your work had been borrowed without asking and used in such a sense. In this case, however, I feel that my copying the story to Jane (although I couldn't have told you who I'd copied it to until today) was permission - or at the very least, my indication of a preparedness to have the work used, but I was surprised to find the story actually in print, without having been notified that such would be the case. I guess we are all lucky when we find out that such copies of our writing exist! I suppose there must be many instances where people's writing is used and never discovered. I have taken this as a compliment (am feeling quite literary even!) and hope that readers of Jane's book will benefit from my take on the events of my son's birth. I was surprised it was used in a 'real' book without me realising it was going to be, but delighted that the story was considered appropriate, and of course the book itself is now a special momento to me and, perhaps one day, to my son. Joy, your point is a little different - and hints at something of the lazy and uninspired on the part of the plagiarists of your web site - whose purposes may have been well, but who entered into no relationship of any kind with you before using your wise words to their own good ends. Hopefully authors, compilers and all of those recognising the good work of others are always willing to give credit where it is due - after all, there's nothing like spreading the good word. Jo The issue you have raised is important Jo. The electronic medium makes it all too easy for anyone to pick up whatever they fancy and reprint it. I think this sort of thing needs to be addressed, and those who copy material from this list do need to ask permission of the writer. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: Book
Dear all I'd like to differentiate between copyright infringement that Joy and Pinky are talking about and stories for the 'The Birth Book'. In no way did I infringe copyright. People had emailed me privately with their birth stories after a request for birth storiesfor inclusioninto the'The Birth Book' was placed on ozmidwifery. A follow up email was sent to all those who sent me stories confirming permission. Though I do think Pinky's written permission is agood idea (which is something I now do) and so is having better back up for the computer (which I might add I now have in place). Pinky -I can request a copy of the book from the publisher for those who had their stories reproduced. I'm sure the publisherwouldn't mind. If you are interested - 'The Birth Book' is a collection of women's birth stories and makes for really interesting reading. Cheers Jane Palmer Pregnancy, Birth and Beyond Caring, Professional Midwifery Services Sydney Visit http://www.pregnancy.com.au -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of PinkySent: Wednesday, 17 October 2001 3:47 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Book Joy You make an important point - I too have had work "ripped off" from my website. I must say I was flabbergasted and quite furious. In the case that I discovered I actually pointed out that this was a breach of copyright and asked for it to be removed within 24 hours or I would take legal action - this was an Australian site - not sure how this applies internationally in a practical sense - although it is definitely a legal issue. I have also come across sections from articles I have written in various newspapers that I was unaware had been used in Books - I dont mind if I am acknowleged and people have toldme EXACTLY what they are using but I was shocked to find a direct quote ina book on body imageby a well known Melbourne writer/ cartoonist a few years ago that simply referenced my article as "Belly Dancing article Sunday Age ". -Not even my name as the author and certainly no request for permission. In the case of the birth stories, Jane has obviously asked permission initially but some publishers seem to be less than clear about the definition of "permission" For Parenting By Heart, I actually had permission forms filled in by people I interviewed - even thougn I wrote up the interviews and in many cases used pseudonyms. the very few people who supplied their own stories were offered "payment' - most requested copies of the book. Jane - can you get your publisher to send these people free copies if they give you their addresses? Pinky www.pinky-mychild.com
Birth book
Hi Jane and all, I hope you didnt think I was implying that Jane could possibly have infringed copyright -that wasnt what I meant at all -just that publishers obviously all handle things differently - some seem much more thorough than others about crossing the "T"s and dotting the "i"s - hence permission slipsin hard copy. And I certainly I feltempathy for Joy and all her hard earned wisdom being plagiarised. By the way _I love Joy's website!! I am sure others do too -or they wouldn't dare copy it! Pinky www.pinky-mychild.com
RE: Birth Story Book
Hi The Birth Book was released at the end of last month. I had the pleasure of being involved in its making. I requested birth stories on this list to put in 'The Birth Book' about 18 months ago. At the time I was sent around 5 stories with permission to include them in the book. The stories were forwarded onto the publisher - who chose the stories to include. Unfortunately when I migrated information onto my new computer earlier this year some data was destroyed - including the contact details of those who sent me the stories. So if you sent me a story - let me know and I will let you know if your story was included in the book. Cheers Jane Palmer Pregnancy, Birth and Beyond Caring, Professional Midwifery Services Sydney Visit http://www.pregnancy.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jo Slamen Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2001 9:04 AM To: Midwifery List Subject: Birth Story Book I was absolutely delighted yesterday to completely by accident discover that my birth story was published in The Birth Book, Carol Barbar (revised edition published this year). I was in a bookshop with husband (who is the IT Manager for this chain of bookshops) and was browsing the preggo/baby titles (as is my habit), and this one was face out (bookselling term) and I'd never seen it before, so thumbed through, and saw Jo's Birth Story. The first sentence was so familiar! And then it dawned on me. I am pleased as punch, and not at all seeking any financial or other reward, but was just wondering exactly how it got there. I think that I probably copied it to a request from this list for birth stories (and never thought anything of it) and, as I say, I am not after anything, but was just a little surprised, as had I not discovered this, I may never have known it was in print for real! So thank you, and if anyone can put me on the trail of the responsible (bless them), I'd like to say thanks properly. Jo -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: Birth Story Book
The issue you have raised is important Jo. The electronic medium makes it all too easy for anyone to pick up whatever they fancy and reprint it. I was notified recently by an English midwife that a section from my website was being used, without acknowledgment, on the website of another group of midwives. The information is what I call 'Planning for birth at home', and I have used it in booklet form, as a handout to prospective clients, as well as on my website, since at least 1997 - maybe longer. Some of it is original work - some is what I consider common knowledge, including lists of questions that anyone might ask, that I have accumulated during my years as a mother and a midwife. It concludes with a very personal statement that I wrote: You are planning to give birth in your own home. Your pregnancy is a statement of your wellness, life and strength. New life is swelling your body. You and your mate accept the gift of life with eager anticipation. Your body tells you that change and growth are following nature's course. The cessation of your menstrual flow, the desire for good food and rest, the enlargement of your breasts - all external - accompany the private dreaming. As your midwife I am committed to supporting you and your family through this wonderfully basic life event - the birth of your baby - your personal, intimate celebration of life and health. Joy Johnston This is also the concluding statement in the copied version, except my name has been left off. That's pretty disappointing. I have written to the people who have used my work, and they have assured me that the mistake was made by someone else, and that they will rectify the situation. I think this sort of thing needs to be addressed, and those who copy material from this list do need to ask permission of the writer. Joy Johnston 25 Eley Rd Blackburn South Vic 3130 Tel:03 9808 9614 Fax:03 9808 3611 M: 04111 90448 www.aitex.com.au/joy.htm -Original Message- From: Jo Slamen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 9:04 AM To: Midwifery List Subject:Birth Story Book I was absolutely delighted yesterday to completely by accident discover that my birth story was published in The Birth Book, Carol Barbar (revised edition published this year). I was in a bookshop with husband (who is the IT Manager for this chain of bookshops) and was browsing the preggo/baby titles (as is my habit), and this one was face out (bookselling term) and I'd never seen it before, so thumbed through, and saw Jo's Birth Story. The first sentence was so familiar! And then it dawned on me. I am pleased as punch, and not at all seeking any financial or other reward, but was just wondering exactly how it got there. I think that I probably copied it to a request from this list for birth stories (and never thought anything of it) and, as I say, I am not after anything, but was just a little surprised, as had I not discovered this, I may never have known it was in print for real! So thank you, and if anyone can put me on the trail of the responsible (bless them), I'd like to say thanks properly. Jo -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Book
Joy You make an important point - I too have had work "ripped off" from my website. I must say I was flabbergasted and quite furious. In the case that I discovered I actually pointed out that this was a breach of copyright and asked for it to be removed within 24 hours or I would take legal action - this was an Australian site - not sure how this applies internationally in a practical sense - although it is definitely a legal issue. I have also come across sections from articles I have written in various newspapers that I was unaware had been used in Books - I dont mind if I am acknowleged and people have toldme EXACTLY what they are using but I was shocked to find a direct quote ina book on body imageby a well known Melbourne writer/ cartoonist a few years ago that simply referenced my article as "Belly Dancing article Sunday Age ". -Not even my name as the author and certainly no request for permission. In the case of the birth stories, Jane has obviously asked permission initially but some publishers seem to be less than clear about the definition of "permission" For Parenting By Heart, I actually had permission forms filled in by people I interviewed - even thougn I wrote up the interviews and in many cases used pseudonyms. the very few people who supplied their own stories were offered "payment' - most requested copies of the book. Jane - can you get your publisher to send these people free copies if they give you their addresses? Pinky www.pinky-mychild.com
Re: Recommended reference book
My client did her own research as well and found what Henci Goer has to say and so is changing doctors. She also knows she is right to have gone for a non-hospital birth for her. Denise - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:38 AM Subject: Re: Recommended reference book I 'll be really interested to read others responses on this. I had to convert the mmol/L to mg/dL and came up with 165mg/dL which is a little high if this was a normal blood glucose: not a 1hour after a 75g screening load (in which case it is reasonable). If not a loading and not a fasting just a random draw then when had she last eaten and what was it? Hopefully Henci's book can bring some restraint to the rule out of homebirth and talk of c/s. I don't (personally) think it is unreasonable to screen some women in pregnancy for diabetes, not for the usual reason of trying to avoid a large baby but because if the mum is more than normally glucose intolerant then overloading the baby's system with glucose can stress the baby in other ways and lead to to other problems such as SGA even. Of course we want to avoid micromanaging the pregnancy and a lot of unnecessary interventions, and the GTT and screening tests are notoriously unreliable and controversial, so I will just be interrested to read it all. marilyn -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: Recommended reference book
I 'll be really interested to read others responses on this. I had to convert the mmol/L to mg/dL and came up with 165mg/dL which is a little high if this was a normal blood glucose: not a 1hour after a 75g screening load (in which case it is reasonable). If not a loading and not a fasting just a random draw then when had she last eaten and what was it? Hopefully Henci's book can bring some restraint to the rule out of homebirth and talk of c/s. I don't (personally) think it is unreasonable to screen some women in pregnancy for diabetes, not for the usual reason of trying to avoid a large baby but because if the mum is more than normally glucose intolerant then overloading the baby's system with glucose can stress the baby in other ways and lead to to other problems such as SGA even. Of course we want to avoid micromanaging the pregnancy and a lot of unnecessary interventions, and the GTT and screening tests are notoriously unreliable and controversial, so I will just be interrested to read it all. marilyn -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Recommended reference book
Dear list I have a client who though on the program continued to see her GP as she thought he was supportive and a good doctor. Well she ran me in tears last weekend her Gp had done a non fasting blood sugar on her and with a result of 9.2 informed her - at 32weeks and nosymptoms or history except a father with latent diet controlled diabetes, she was probablygestational diabetes and needed a GTT, nota candidate for a homebirth but rather a c/s!!As a consequence I want to recommend you all add Henci Goer's "Obstetric myths versus research realities; A guide to medicalliterature to to reading lists if not personal libraries! It chapter on Gestational Diabetes as well as reviewing with abstracts a host of literature also gives the physiological background to the changing staus of glucose in pregancyall of which any doctor working/trained in obsterics (or midwife) should know!! Needless to say my client has a copy of that and other references to help her decide how to deal or avoid this doctor and his treatment of her!!
Nappybag book
Hi I am currently doing some work for the Nappy Bag Book - a neat little directory to goods /services/ support for pregnant and new mums. Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane editions will come out in March 2002 - deadline later this month but the sooner we attend tolistings the better - If any Childbirth educators/midwives/ LCs/ Doulas etc who don't already have listings would like them - a great way to get your "voices" out to mothers- please contact me for forms. Thanks Pinky McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.pinky-mychild.com
book launch invitation Thursday 6 September 2001 at 5pm
To all who are interested in childbirth, you are invited to: Maternity Coalition's FORUM and LAUNCH of KERREEN REIGER'S NEW BOOK 'OUR BODIES, OUR BABIES' The Maternity Coalition in conjunction with the absolutely women's health program invites you to a forum and book launch. THE CHILDBIRTH REVOLUTION: STALLED OR STOPPED? A panel of speakers who have been active in changing childbirth in recent decades will consider what has and has not been achieved. Their lively discussion will be facilitated by Andrea Robertson of Birth International. Thursday 6 September 2001 at 5pm Committee Room First Floor Royal Women's Hospital Cardigan Street (Emergency) Entrance Carlton Following the forum you are invited to celebrate the publication of OUR BODIES, OUR BABIES: THE FORGOTTEN WOMEN'S MOVEMENT By Kerreen Reiger Published by Melbourne University Press to be launched by Rhonda Galbally of ourcommunity.com.au With the support of the Royal Women's Hospital, light refreshments will be catered for by 'Mary and Steve'. A donation to the Maternity Coalition of $10 (or $5 MC members/unwaged) is requested to defray other costs and to continue the work of making childbirth 'woman-friendly'. * As numbers are strictly limited please RSVP by 30 August 2001 to: The Maternity Coalition PO Box 73 Brunswick South VIC 3055 Please make cheques payable (tax deductible donations) to The Maternity Coalition. Receipts will be available at the forum. Inquiries to Robin Payne tel: 9380 2863 or absolutely women's health tel: 9344 2199 Please find enclosed my payment for the forum 'The Childbirth Revolution: stalled or stopped?' and the launch of Our Bodies, Our Babies: The Forgotten Women's Movement $5 MC member/unwaged $10 others Name _ Address ___ ABOUT Our Bodies, Our Babies The Forgotten Women's Movement This is a wonderful book . . . read it and consider what has been won, and how much more needs to be won, in the childbirth revolution! Barbara Katz Rothman, City University of New York Kerreen Reiger is absolutely right to see the childbirth movement as the forgotten women's movement, and the great pleasure of this book is to find in every chapter the right questions being asked. Janet McCalman, University of Melbourne For most of the twentieth century, childbirth and the care of mothers and babies in Western countries was controlled by doctors and a hospital system headed by men. In Our Bodies, Our Babies, Kerreen Reiger traces the struggle of Australian women and others to change approaches to childbirth, to claim their right to choices in childbirth, and to educate themselves about birth and breastfeeding. She explores the movement which radically changed our maternity care practices, allowing fathers to participate in the birth of their children and babies to 'room-in' with their mothers. This absorbing story draws on interviews with mothers, midwives and doctors, and on archival material from relevant women's organisations. It shows how the childbirth and breastfeeding movements are relevant to feminism and women's rights. Much has been achieved, but Reiger sees a need for still more political action. Any woman who has given birth, and anyone who has cared for mothers and babies, will want to read this book. Dr Kerreen Reiger Director of Women's Studies School of Social Sciences La Trobe University 3086 Australia ph: 61 3 9479 1040 fax: 61 3 9479 2705 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[Fwd: midwifery models resource book]
-- Sally K Tracy Australian Midwifery Action Project (AMAP) Dear Sally Please could you forward this to the ozmidwifery list. thanks Dear Ozmidwives, I am currently off line and have asked Sally to send this message to you. Along with Caroline Homer and Nicky Leap I am writing a 'Handbook' or 'resource book' for midwives and managers wanting to set up/develop/sustain continuity of midwifery care models in Australia. This labour of love is progressing well now and we wish to finish it in the next month. It will be in the form of a ring-binder type folder that you will be able to add to as you develop your own unique resource. At the back of the book we would like to have a section that identifies the current models that are out there and provide some very basic details and contact information. If you would like your model listed and are happy to be contacted by people who read the resource then here is what to do. Firstly we are asking for models of care in the public health system. This is not to discount the fantastic work of midwives in private practice in any setting but this book will focus on the mainstream services (that need the most changing!). The models need to be providing continuity of midwifery care and or carer to women, through antenatal, labour, birth and the post natal phases. Home or hospital based, rural and urban. We have a lot of info already from published works and also our own extended network of colleagues...but...dont assume anything at this stage...so ...even if you have emailed us in the past ..please take five minutes to respond again here. If you wish have your service identified please provide the following information, and please not lots of extra info at this stage and send via email to me not Sally T. MY EMAIL IS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Information required: Name of program/service Contact person Contact details...email/phone/fax Number of midwives Number of women Client group (risk status/special needs?) Type of model (caseload /team /other) rural or urban setting hospital or community based homebirth option: yes/no Thank you for taking the time to contribute to what we hope is a useful resource for the many midwives and leaders who wish to get started in changing their models of care. PLEASE RETURN TO ME WITHIN SEVEN DAYS TO BE SURE TO BE INCLUDED Kind regards and best wishes to all! Pat Pat Brodie, on behalf of Caroline Homer and Nicky leap
Re: Silence to Voices book
Andrea Is this book available from mainstream bookstores and if so who is the publisher. The subject is very topical. I have just attended a nursing careers day in Perth today. Lots of interest in midwifery from students but some horror stories from nurses trying to survive in the public health system. I began to wonder if we should be encouraging them to join such a system but who will take over from us if we don't. Regards Jane
