Re: [PAYCO] Dual Membership

2012-10-08 Thread Tongogara Ndima
Comrade Chargein The formation of APC and PAM is as a response by PAC members who were not happy about the leadership style of Mphahlele Letlapa, not necessary due to the PAC ideological shift. Therefore, dual membership will make no difference to solve PAC problems, My simple advice is that you

Re: [PAYCO] Remembering and RE-Dedicating Ourselves to Chairman John Nyathi Pokela's Legacy

2013-07-03 Thread Tongogara Ndima
*Zwe lethu, Majoni* ** *I attended the unity summit on the June 29, I drove all the way from Mpumalanga Province in Standerton from work. I regretted were was I going ? because I expected former leaders (NECs) of the PAC since 1990 from President Makwetu to President Mogoba, President Pheko

Re: [PAYCO] Remembering and RE-Dedicating Ourselves to Chairman John Nyathi Pokela's Legacy

2013-07-03 Thread Tongogara Ndima
Ma-Afrika Johannesburg Region Siyabonga Majoni, umsebenzi we Party and your commitment. Next time please come to our provinces and regions to assist us with political workshops. Regards Tongogara Ndima On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com wrote

[PAYCO] Re: FW: Notice of PAC NEC meeting, invitation extended to PAC Structures

2013-07-03 Thread Tongogara Ndima
But Comrades APLAMVA National- Justice, you are being a hypocrites why demand the attendance register for only the 18 May meeting what about the 11 May attendance register? You are part of creating confusion within the PAC. Moloto called a secrecy NEC meeting you were silence, some weeks back,

Re: [PAYCO] Thami on the Freedom Charter SA FM now

2013-07-04 Thread Tongogara Ndima
Elections divided and weak Zwe lethu Tongogara Ndima On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Hulisani Mmbara mmbar...@hotmail.comwrote: Pathetic Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email

Re: [PAYCO] Thami on the Freedom Charter SA FM now

2013-07-04 Thread Tongogara Ndima
Comrade Xola, what about Narius and Letlapa who are destroying PAC to appease the ANC? On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Xola tyamza...@yahoo.com wrote: ...this is what happens when u sell your soul, u end being remote controlled and told what to say, whether it makes sense or not. He's agreed

Re: [PAYCO] Thami on the Freedom Charter SA FM now

2013-07-04 Thread Tongogara Ndima
in which the PAC will not only emerge victorious but united as well. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -- *From: * Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com *Sender: * payco@googlegroups.com *Date: *Thu, 4 Jul 2013 11:33:50 +0200 *To: *payco

[PAYCO] Re: My view

2013-07-04 Thread Tongogara Ndima
through Moloto called for a National Conference 9 - 11 August; the NEC through Mphahlele is dismissing that call for a National Conference . . . what is this joke ! ! ! We need National Conference 'YESTERDAY' ALREADY ! ! ! iAfrika SIYABULELA NDAMANE 083 790 6470 Quoting Tongogara Ndima

Re: [PAYCO] GAUTENG PROVINCIAL CONFERENCE AND UNIFICATION OF BRANCHES (AND MEMBERS)

2013-07-30 Thread Tongogara Ndima
Nofuma, you again you are hopeless and full of contradictions. Is it wrong for members to suggest that as a province let us unite and have a unification conference first and provincial congress later, is this wrong. Another thing, UNITY SUMMIT organised by NARIUS, we agreed that PROVINCES SHOULD

Re: [PAYCO] Our National Heroes' Day

2013-07-31 Thread Tongogara Ndima
31 July Heroes Day:- Courage PAC, AZANYU, PASO Forces Courage! Not Yet Uhuru, Ka Dithunya e seng Dipuisano! Revolution in Our Lifetime! On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:34 AM, leag...@yahoo.com wrote: The Anthony Muziwakhe Lembede Anniversary held on the 31st July annually should be treated and

[PAYCO] Re: The Plight of Women in the Workplace and in the Community

2013-08-08 Thread Tongogara Ndima
Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 06, 2013 9:19 AM *To:* 'Tongogara Ndima' ndimatongog...@gmail.com ; 'Mohlomphegi Mphahlele' mphah...@eskom.co.za ; aplamvanatio...@gmail.com ; payco@googlegroups.com ; 'Horatio Motjuwadi' motjuwa...@sowetan.co.za ; 'Jaki Seroke' sero

Re: [PAYCO] Fwd: Gauteng Provincial Congress Feedback

2013-08-12 Thread Tongogara Ndima
MOAforika Mothelo Please Explain WHAT Do YOU MEAN BY SAYING WESTRAND REGION IS THE BIGGEST ACHIEVER? LEFATSHE LA RONA Ndima On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Sbusiso Xaba sbusiso.x...@gmail.comwrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Thabang Mothelo mothe...@gmail.com Date: 6

Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2

2013-09-20 Thread Tongogara Ndima
Izwe lethu M'Afrika Comrade Masoga and BCAWU comrades please clarify this statement, some of us are worried because it seems NACTU and its affiliates have become yellow trade union not fighting exploitation of workers. The National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) has yet again scored a major

Re: [PAYCO] Structures

2013-09-20 Thread Tongogara Ndima
MoAfrika Makhanya, you are 100% correct Muendane does not belong to a PAC branch and NEC members are elected not appointed. We condemned Letlapa for disregarding the PAC Constitution, today Narius Moloto is doing the same thing.I wish PAC members should stop following individual leaders and should

Re: [PAYCO] Fw: REGISTER at our nearest IEC...

2013-09-20 Thread Tongogara Ndima
MoAFrika Mphiri, your energy is encouraging but one thing you are missing noble son of soil is that the PAC NEC choose to fight among each other instead of focusing on planning for 2014 National Elections, other political parties are all over the media mobilising the people and encouraging people

Re: [PAYCO] Pseudo PAYCO National Conference seats Saturday 21 September 2013.

2013-09-20 Thread Tongogara Ndima
COmrade Mandyoli, PAC Youths must stop acting like idiots, Letlapa and Narius are using these youths against each other. Smoll Zondo group is on the side of Moloto while Pitso is on the side of Letlapa. It also seems like some of these young leaders like Zondo and Pitso they are also enjoying this

Re: [PAYCO] Pseudo PAYCO National Conference seats Saturday 21 September 2013.

2013-09-20 Thread Tongogara Ndima
the student movement, that indicates failer from the comrades of PAC especially those who have served in youth structures to guide and show direction where it is neccesary. On 9/20/13, Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com wrote: COmrade Mandyoli, PAC Youths must stop acting like idiots, Letlapa

Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2

2013-09-20 Thread Tongogara Ndima
struggles in comprador burgeous comrades who sleep with corporate bosses which is NUM, BCAWU etc are examples of such in this case NUM is a victor against BCAWU it's a crucial lesson for revolutionaries. On 9/20/13, Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com wrote: Izwe lethu M'Afrika

[PAYCO] PAC'S FATE IS DETERMINE AT NEO-COLONIAL COURTS

2013-09-26 Thread Tongogara Ndima
Zwe lethu After the 11th and 18th May NEC Meetings, PAC President Letlapa Mphahlele and Secretary General both supported by an NEC grouping(s) loyal or supporting them. These PAC NEC elected at Butterworth Congress in 2012 July just after the lapse of 10 months had gone from one court to another

Re: [PAYCO] PAC'S FATE IS DETERMINE AT NEO-COLONIAL COURTS

2013-09-26 Thread Tongogara Ndima
Izwe Lethu! Fikiswa On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Fikiswa Ntshwanti fikis...@gmail.comwrote: MÁfrika, the PAC slogan is Izwe lethu, the next time you write Zwe lethu, I'll take you to court. On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com wrote: Zwe

Re: [PAYCO] Unveiling ceremony: Mawande Jack - 9 November 2013

2013-10-23 Thread Tongogara Ndima
Mo-Afrika Mpuka Is there transport organised from Gauteng to Unveiling? If no, I suggest that former Azanyu Comrades to organise transport, it will be great to travel and pay our respects! Lefatshe La Rona- Courage, Unity, Action Ndima On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Mpuka Radinku

Re: [PAYCO] RE: Memo on memorial lecture of Uncle Zeph Mothopeng

2013-10-24 Thread Tongogara Ndima
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Re: [PAYCO] RE: Memo on memorial lecture of Uncle Zeph Mothopeng

2013-10-24 Thread Tongogara Ndima
in the PAC discussion need to be clear and relevant don't speak for any one including the President as if the president is immortal. No Press can destroy us And Press can Build Izwe Lethu On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:05:54 +0200 Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [PAYCO] Leaderless

2013-11-01 Thread Tongogara Ndima
unions accepted a new wage offer. Hopefully unions and companies involved will agree to new wage deals to end the rest of the strike action plaguing SA soon. Author: *FSP Invest* http://fspinvest.co.za/tags/fsp-invest/ On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.comwrote

Re: [PAYCO] Fwd: invitation to a PASMA/PAC elections rally

2014-04-26 Thread Tongogara Ndima
M'Afrika Digashu Stop embarrassing PAC, you guys know that Narius Moloto cannot talk and has little political grounding, if students will be allowed to engage him and demand clarity then PAC will be embarrassed once more. Both Mopethi and Moloto dismally failed to unpack positions of PAC at both

Re: [PAYCO] Invitation to a PAC Gauteng Election Conference

2014-04-26 Thread Tongogara Ndima
M'Afrika ka' Ntando As an election manager you should find this highly embarrassing and bordering on incompetency, it is ten days before national elections but PAC Branches in majority of Gauteng and Mpumalangahave no elections posters and information. Are you serving PAC or Mopethi-Moloto

Re: [PAYCO] Invitation to a PAC Gauteng Election Conference

2014-04-29 Thread Tongogara Ndima
, Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com wrote: M'Afrika ka' Ntando As an election manager you should find this highly embarrassing and bordering on incompetency, it is ten days before national elections but PAC Branches in majority of Gauteng and Mpumalangahave no elections posters

Re: [PAYCO] Fwd: invitation to a PASMA/PAC elections rally

2014-04-29 Thread Tongogara Ndima
. That path is the implementation and utilisation of our Code of Conduct and our Constitution. All those leaders who transgress our code of conduct and our constitution will be answerable to the National Conference. Go out there and campaign for the PAC!!! *From:* Tongogara Ndima

Re: [PAYCO] Fwd: invitation to a PASMA/PAC elections rally

2014-04-29 Thread Tongogara Ndima
On Apr 26, 2014 12:50 PM, Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com wrote: M'Afrika Digashu Stop embarrassing PAC, you guys know that Narius Moloto cannot talk and has little political grounding, if students will be allowed to engage him and demand clarity then PAC will be embarrassed once more

Re: [PAYCO]

2014-05-14 Thread Tongogara Ndima
MoAfrika Fikiswa, can we go and support African Liberation Day Lecture in Soweto, Please! On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Brenda Ndlvou brendandl...@webmail.co.zawrote: M'Afrika What is the agenda for the meeting? Izwe Lethu! On Tue, 13 May 2014 13:07:11 +0200 Fikiswa Ntshwanti

Re: [PAYCO] Facebook newsfeed post by: Mphiri Zimbiri Masoga

2014-05-14 Thread Tongogara Ndima
Moaforika Mphiri, our PAC got 11 200,00 votes in Gauteng! How do you explain this, ngwana setshaba On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 9:58 PM, mphi...@gmail.com wrote: Mphiri Zimbiri Masoga wrote: We will require +- 56 000 Votes in Gauteng to obtain 1 Seat in the Provincial Legislature, should there be

Re: [PAYCO] Re: LAND REFORM

2014-07-03 Thread Tongogara Ndima
Siya. Please see this in context son of the soil, no offence intended. Mawethu On Friday, June 27, 2014 8:40 AM, Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com wrote: Moaforika Siya Ndamane Your effort is highly appreciated but the biggest problem facing PAC is factions which corrodes

Re: [PAYCO] Re: LAND REFORM

2014-07-03 Thread Tongogara Ndima
to the periphery we should refuse to see PAC dying before our very own eyes, there is enough talent in PAC of comrades who can take PAC far and perform wonders. Izwe lethu On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com wrote: Izwe lethu Maforika Comrade Mawethu I

[PAYCO] Re: MPETHI PRESIDENTIAL DECREE AND THREE PAC NEC SPLITS

2014-08-07 Thread Tongogara Ndima
members of the PAC to play their part to protect and rebuild the PAC. Those who have grievances against any individual or leader, the conference will sit and shape our future going forward. Izwe Lethu Fihla On 06 Aug 2014 11:53 AM, Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com wrote: Izwe lethu

Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference

2014-09-04 Thread Tongogara Ndima
Comrade Zondo Your statement makes sense but you are dishonest. Cde Moloto has been paying for yourself and Eddie Mfulwane to attend NEC meetings and support his positions as far back as 11 May 2013. Your PAYCO is not driving any PAC Programmes among the youths in the country buts has been a

Re: [PAYCO] Re: d: Submission of Resolutions for the National Conference

2014-09-08 Thread Tongogara Ndima
Comrade Sbusiso Xaba Does this mean, you insist those few branches in Tshwane Region are going ahead to attend Moloto (Less than Five) NEC Members grouping Bloemfontein September Conference. When your peers in the PAC are raising the notion that PAC cannot afford parallel and conflicting events

Re: [PAYCO] Re: d: Submission of Resolutions for the National Conference

2014-09-09 Thread Tongogara Ndima
let them close their ears and eyes and attend what is theirs and we continue to explore stabilising the party beyond the jamboree! IZWE LETHU! On Monday, September 8, 2014 3:02 PM, Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com wrote: Comrade Sbusiso Xaba Does this mean, you insist those

Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference

2014-09-10 Thread Tongogara Ndima
Comrade Ndade Your gripe is about councillor's seat hence you formed a parallel REC hoping to topple the other REC and find a way to become a councillor! We know, and ou have raised this several times in Sharpeville that Narius Moloto has being lobbying you and making offers. If Sedibeng Region

Re: [PAYCO] Re: d: Submission of Resolutions for the National Conference

2014-09-10 Thread Tongogara Ndima
will then move to the issues (ideas) instead of sticking to this personality issues like the Moloto NEC Groupings or Dlamini NEC Groups etc. Izwe lethu; On Sep 10, 2014 12:25 PM, Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com wrote: Comrade Xaba We request that, may you then share with us, how

Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference

2014-09-11 Thread Tongogara Ndima
that I gave up on him and at least I told him. I was never in my life felt so betrayed by a leader at the level of an SG. On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:36 PM, Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com wrote: Comrade Ndade Your gripe is about councillor's seat hence you formed

Re: [PAYCO] PAC National Conference, Bloemfontein

2014-09-29 Thread Tongogara Ndima
Moaforika Vusie You are correct on one issue, as PAC members we need a unifying inclusive conference, not this political gimmicks. In less than three years PAC had three Presidents and three Deputy Presidents as follows: 2012 July Butterworth Congress: Cde Letlapa Mphahlele elected as President