Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump theheadphone socket | DailyMail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Peter Scanlon
I think they just care about making money. Just like people said about Microsoft. From: André van Deventer Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 5:49 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump theheadphone socket | DailyMail Online Exactly How are you supposed

RE: SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail Online

2016-03-10 Thread André van Deventer
Exactly How are you supposed to connect something like a neck induction loop to such a device? Yes some of the rolls Royce hearing aids have wireless connectivity but very few people have the money to purchase them. But I suppose this segment of the market is so small that Apple does not really

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2016-03-10 Thread Mary Otten
Well, here is a link to Jonathan's well-written post for those who want another perspective. I think he makes good points and I do not see the advantage at this time of dumping the jack. A lot of what ifs don't cut it, and really, vr audio? If the choice is between vr audio or some other

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2016-03-10 Thread Mary Otten
I recall something in the past with an adapter and a camera kit and the iPad. Don't remember details, and it certainly wasn't anything like what you get on a phone or tablet that has a built-in slot such as my husband's HTC android phone has. Pop in the card and go. Mary

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2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan
Okay, I received the box 2 days ago, had a very short play with the box Yesterday morning and a longer exploration a few hours ago. I'm surprised at just how accessible Android on this box is and I've been able to access and use many of the features with just the remote controller though a

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2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan
It will be utterly superb if everyone does yes. On 11/03/2016 9:52 AM, Brian Olesen wrote: Hi Dane, We could hope that the vendors can agree on using the USB C connection. Broian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan

SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Brian Olesen
Hi Dane, We could hope that the vendors can agree on using the USB C connection. Broian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 10. marts 2016 23:13 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL

Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yes I've wondered about that myself, perhaps there's a problem in powering them or a problem with the delay between source and target? That delay typically plagues AirPlay systems unfortunately. On 11/03/2016 9:33 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! I am more surprised that there’s no airplay

Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan
I'm just looking at the post talking about Bluetooth, Bluetooth does in fact transmit in Compressed audio - well most standards of Bluetooth do -. Most equipment out there now for audio - unless you get the very cheap stuff - is Bluetooth 3.0 which supports a wide variety of different audio

Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! I am more surprised that there’s no airplay headphones yet. If there was i would buy a pair emediatly. /A > On 10 Mar 2016, at 16:34, Chris Skarstad wrote: > > With Apple, they have an obsession with being thin as possible. From what I'm > told, the standard

Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Well is that a very big problem? Maybe it is but i don’t hear so good i can hear that. /A > On 10 Mar 2016, at 15:00, Brian Olesen wrote: > > Hi, > Bluetooth quality lacks in various ways. > It can't transmit uncompressed audio and there is a slide delay in time as >

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2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan
Okay well that's one way of looking at things . I've just been reading a review of the Samsung Galaxy S7 which has a Headphones socket on it but still manages to stay waterproof amazingly, can't work out how Samsung have accomplished that without a sealing cover but there we are. On

Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Actually i don’t care as i am going to get me an android phone soon. I am a bit tired of some bugs with voiceover on my iphone. Though i am not going to leave Ios or OSX. Just want to try something else. /A > On 10 Mar 2016, at 12:03, Brian Olesen wrote: > > Hi, > It's a

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2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan
Hmm, interesting and that's about the time the USB C standard was launched so perhaps we'll see more of that in the future? The Nexus P6 smartphone already has the USB C connector as part of it. On 11/03/2016 8:56 AM, Brian Olesen wrote: HI, Actually it's old news, but here is an article

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2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan
I beg to disagree with you Mary as I'm one of those hearing impaired people and Apple - as have the folk at Google - have done some really wonderful stuff when it comes to the incusion of deaf-blind people in the scheme of things. Bluetooth is an everyday word in the technology of deaf-blind

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2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan
I could be wrong on this but doesn't Apple sell an adatper that can be plugged into the Dock connector which allows the use of a SD card? The Camera Kit I think its called. On 11/03/2016 8:51 AM, Mary Otten wrote: Lots of brands don't have the sd card slot. I would also like that, but Apple

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2016-03-10 Thread Brian Olesen
HI, Actually it's old news, but here is an article from 2014 about it. Europe approves common charger standard for mobe-makers Apple and its proprietary Lightning rig may yet wriggle out of this one O2_uni_charger 17 Mar 2014 at 01:01, Simon Sharwood The European Parliament has signed off

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2016-03-10 Thread Mary Otten
Lots of brands don't have the sd card slot. I would also like that, but Apple have never had it, and I'm not holding my breath. Mary

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2016-03-10 Thread Mary Otten
The problem with all this forward thinking is that it leaves the hearing impaired out. Jonathan Mosen has done some very good writing on this topic. I personally have the equipment to deal with the loss of the headphone jack. But in thinking of what it will mean for others, I think it is a stupid

Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan
Absolute twaddle and what regulations? Micro USB for mobile is now old hack, make way for USB C and Apple are already using that on their Macbook range so perhaps USB C will appear on iPhone in the future though I doubt the immediate future, too many Lightning dock devices out there. > On 11

SV: SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Brian Olesen
HI, What I think is. They'll have to install a micro USB due to regulations in EU. They force all vendors to use the same standard for charging phones from I guess primo 2018. So maybe they'll keep the lightning connector and add an additional usb port. I'd also be happy for a micro SD card slot

RE: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Hamit Campos
Ah okay. That's cool. I just was asking a philisofical question I guess. Suppose it's true and I actually am not too shocked at this I've heard that idea before. But suppose it does happen and they never ever ever ever bring it back, then what? All though who knows because this is another guy.

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2016-03-10 Thread Hamit Campos
Hell to the yeah to that! -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:49 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |

RE: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Hamit Campos
Dude VR sound would be epic! -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:52 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |

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2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan
I’m really looking forward to the stereo speakers the article talks about. As the iPhone line has progressed the quality of the speakers have improved. I got my old iPhone 3GS out just now and boy, that speaker is absolutely God Damn Awful compared to the speaker in the iPhone 6S or the 6. Now

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2016-03-10 Thread Devin Prater
Another thing. What if they make headphones with a lightning connector? What if they have two lightning ports on the phone? What if the headphones can monitor health data like the Apple watch? What if they can do virtual reality stuff, like moving sound as one moves the head? Think. Sent from

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2016-03-10 Thread Devin Prater
They're removing it to make more room for even better things. Would you want a serial port on your phone? Or a floppy or CD drive? Let's think different. Let's think of possibilities and the future. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 10, 2016, at 7:08 AM, Brian Olesen wrote: >

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2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan
Anyway if that’s what Apple are going to do then hail to them I have the equipment to manage the change and its readily available so no problem. > On 11 Mar 2016, at 5:18 AM, Kulvinder Singh Bhogal > wrote: > > That is as maybe, but my point still stands given that

Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Kulvinder Singh Bhogal
That is as maybe, but my point still stands given that we as humans aren’t given to being the most gentle of creatures for the most part. I still think that it is going too far now. Manufacturers are just showing off now. Regards. Kulvinder Bhogal E-mail: kbhog...@btinternet.com Facetime:

SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Brian Olesen
HI, As I wrote. Skip this iPhone 7 update. If it comes back, or this information only is a roomer then off course I'm open to Apple as I am to everything exciting and interesting. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Hamit Campos

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2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan
Don't see any major marches through the streets over this either . On 11/03/2016 2:36 AM, Merv Keck wrote: Won't bother me a bit. I am about to purchase the fourth Bluetooth headset in a couple of months for the other individual living in this apartment who uses the headset on both the

Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan
You're pretty much on the mark and I don't think you'll have any problems with your Bluetooth headphones whatever, Apple won't be taking that step back. On 11/03/2016 2:34 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote: With Apple, they have an obsession with being thin as possible. From what I'm told, the

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2016-03-10 Thread Merv Keck
Won't bother me a bit. I am about to purchase the fourth Bluetooth headset in a couple of months for the other individual living in this apartment who uses the headset on both the iPhone 6S+ and the PC. In the last ten days the individual has broken two and the third one was either defective or

Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Chris Skarstad
With Apple, they have an obsession with being thin as possible. From what I'm told, the standard headphone jack takes up a lot of room, when you compare it to something like wireless might take up. So, they want to go with that so the phone will be thinner. and knowing them, you'll have to

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2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan
And the Lightning Dock connector is a far more functional connector than the Headphones socket is. Actually the headphones socket used by Apple isn't universal at all, its been adapted by Apple to suit there needs. If you look at an Apple Headphone socket for want of a better description

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2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yes, delay can be a problem particularly when it comes to speech. Some Bluetooth devices do have a pronounced problem with delay whilst others don't, the delay is there but its less than a quarter of a second. Perhaps Apple might make the Bluetooth system a little more configurable as it is

Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan
Famous Last Words . On 11/03/2016 1:24 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Hmm then will you skip from now on? No more IPhone for you for ever more? I mean if and that's a big if they really do do it with 7 you know it ain't coming back. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio

Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan
At this point in time I've only seen one pair of Lightning Digital headphones but you can bet we'll see much more and possibly some lightning to 3.5MM adapters? Well we'll see. On 11/03/2016 1:14 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: True this. Also I did forget about the lightning ones. That would sound

Re: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan
If you look at the web site it came from the Daily Mail newspaper. Now to be fair September is a long way off but - if you read the article - you'll see that the Mail has had some tipoff's from various papers so I'd imagine that the removal of the headphones socket is pretty certain. On

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2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan
The 6S and 6S+ are remarkably strong and robust models, they're actually thicker than the 6 and 6+ phones were to accommidate that extra steel frame to make them stronger. So if we take the headphones socket out we can leave that steel frame or something similar in place and make the phone

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2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan
Well apart from your suggestion regarding toilet paper and iPhones , headphones vary in quality sound too but the iPhone was never meant for quality sound anyway, it doesn't use a Lossless Bluetooth profile - well not yet at any rate - and if you want quality sound then you pay for a better

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2016-03-10 Thread Hamit Campos
Oh dam. There is that too. I forgot about this since I'm not much of a musicion. I'm more into sound stuff. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:14 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List

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2016-03-10 Thread Hamit Campos
Hmm then will you skip from now on? No more IPhone for you for ever more? I mean if and that's a big if they really do do it with 7 you know it ain't coming back. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Thursday, March

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2016-03-10 Thread goshawk on horseback
exactly! the headphone socket was a lot more universal, as it could be used for more than just headphones. a good situation I can think off for example, is that there are now some very good musical instrument apps available for the iPhone, which make life a lot easier for blind musicians. with

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2016-03-10 Thread Hamit Campos
True this. Also I did forget about the lightning ones. That would sound much much better. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List

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2016-03-10 Thread goshawk on horseback
given the prices of the phones, and the problems that are already showing themselves with some of the thinner and larger models, such as the 6plus for example, with them being able to get bent so easily, I would say yes, it is starting to become a problem! when you fork out that much for

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2016-03-10 Thread Michael Mote
I use the Bose OE Sound Link headphones, and the latency is not good at all. There is quite a delay that is annoying. That is why I still use my trusty analog headset for now. I haven't figured out a way to improve the latency. I wish I could, because I want to rid myself of as many connections

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2016-03-10 Thread Brian Olesen
Hi, Bluetooth quality lacks in various ways. It can't transmit uncompressed audio and there is a slide delay in time as well. Toilet paper is more than a hundred years old and is stil being used. Smile Bran -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På

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2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan
The thickness or lack thereof, is that a real problem? There are benefits to be had, stereo speakers for one thing could be made a great deal of use of, not just for music but for games, mobility Apps and the phone generally being a little louder than it is now. To illustrate the point a

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2016-03-10 Thread Kulvinder Singh Bhogal
Aren’t the I-Phones thin enough already? Just don’t put your phone in your trouser pocket, you might snap it. Kulvinder Bhogal E-mail: kbhog...@btinternet.com Facetime: kulvinder.bho...@techie.com Skypename: bobba2006 > On 10 Mar 2016, at 13:42, Hamit

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2016-03-10 Thread Hamit Campos
Ah they will have to have a blue tooh Ear pod. Right. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Peter Scanlon Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 7:15 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump

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2016-03-10 Thread Hamit Campos
Oooo harsh. Ahahahahahhhahaahahahahahaaha. No but seriously. If for what ever reason I should up grade that means there goes my Bose OE2I head set. Because they ain't blue tooth. I personally say what evs, I'll just buy the blue tooth version. No biggy. But for this problem. Money's tight.

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2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan
A very ill considered post, Apple aren’t the only one’s selling Bluetooth headphones. > On 10 Mar 2016, at 11:15 PM, Peter Scanlon wrote: > > It reduces thickness by one millimetre. > but they want to make more money by making us by their particular headphhone. > > >

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2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan
There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the plug away then the phone can be made thinner. I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I really wanted to use an older pair of headphones. A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or

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2016-03-10 Thread Brian Olesen
Hi, Yeah right. They can go fuck them selves. :-( Now I'll dig into the Android World to see how that works out ano 2016. Good god 1 millimeter. What does that matter? Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Peter Scanlon Sendt: 10.

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2016-03-10 Thread Peter Scanlon
It reduces thickness by one millimetre. but they want to make more money by making us by their particular headphhone. From: Brian Olesen Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:03 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail Online Hi,

SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Brian Olesen
Hi, It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S. Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much space. Best regards Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio